A MUCH NEEDED BALANCE TO THE TITHING DEBATE

[@davissamuelola]

Five Pillars of Balance 1. Correct Information 2. Complete information 3. Correct application 4. Correct emphasis 5. Correct priority

[@pwanidonsunday8652]

❤

[@newwinecreativeempire6515]

What will our answer be if we are asked if the concept of Tithing has passed the check of "correct application"?

[@mirabelle174]

"We do not give to be blessed, we give because we are blessed"

[@ultragamr153]

but this was the general teaching pre 2020

[@tamiausten873]

Even if tithe is not compulsory, I'm still going pay because I need to have a percentage of my earnings that I won't eat . Discipline is important, God doesn't like stingy people. It's not even about the reward, I need it for my soul, can be like the rich fool; I, myself, me, my , mine🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️. Let God take the 10% .

[@ChiomaChinedu714]

Don't pay only 10% ,make sure you fulfill all other laws given by Moses.

[@bartman386]

When Jesus died on the cross, he died for all. Even the stingy people. The NT has no verse that the church need to tithe 10%. The OT does, along with whole other list of laws to follow. My question are we still under the law??

[@tamiausten873]

@@ChiomaChinedu714 good point though. Me paying tithe is a way for me to be used to giving. Funny enough, the new testament prescribes 100% , give your all. At least 10% is an attempt and shouldn't be forced by the church, let everyone grow with God

[@jayaustin1939]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@tamiausten873The new testament does not demand 100%. 2 Cor.9:7 prescribes how Christians should give. Simple.

[@SelwynSlamdill-he8yh]

You sound like a pharisee ..wanting to be praised by men and not depending on the finished work of Christ i have good news for you ...Jesus said it is finished

[@iniobongmoses2508]

I don't give just to be blessed, I give because I am blessed!! Thank you sir🙌🔥

[@chrislite9804]

Giving to receive more has encouraged covetousness. That one hit me. People have become lovers of money instead of treating money like it’s less important.

[@Emkeys-i1v]

Exactly! In fact I want to leave church because of this

[@phemmie_voiceofasaphbakkie5419]

God bless Iren. I am proud and happy that in the midst of the confusion of the time there are younger ministers who truly understand the scripture and possess the Spirit of God to say it the way it is. Selah

[@kanya-js6le]

GLORY!!!!'m favoured, $140K every 3weeks! And am retired i can now give back to the locals in my community and also support God's work and the church. God bless America

[@djeechizzy9818]

No specific one really, because there are lots of investment plans and strategies littered all over the internet today, for instance, investments like real estates,gold, drop shipping crypto currency and lots more

[@bunnyvibez4864]

For me,I would say Gold are profitable but Crypto has been the best so far

[@leahmolly9150]

I agree, I invested in shiba coin and BTC last year and now I am bullish

[@ziinukayii8435]

In the kingdom you don't give to be blessed,you give because you are blessed.wow

[@ultragamr153]

but this was the general teaching pre 2020

[@tamiausten873]

7:15 Paste has proved that he's not a Gen Z pastor; he's a pastor, period.❤🎉

[@nanakauffmannakoakpah5876]

This is the most balanced teaching I have ever heard about tithing and giving. Thank you so much Apostle

[@flamingfirenetwork]

Myles munroe have a perspective I will never forget Jesus brought the kingdom to earth and Jesus first message was (repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand) He furthered that by saying that every kingdom have laws(Bible in our case) every kingdom pay tax (tithing ) every citizen of the kingdom worship the king(human created for His pleasure) I will stop here

[@olalekanadewale4967]

​@@flamingfirenetworkFrom Myles point of view. Quite a reasonable point of view I admit, But definitely not the absolute. Christ brought the kingdom earth but he said absolutely nothing about tithes. Food for thought, if tithe was essential to the kingdom, don't you think the one person that brought the kingdom would have at least mentioned it. Maybe tax, sorry tithe was never really meant for the true children of the kingdom, just as royalties like Prince Charles, now King Charles and his descendants are not liable to pay tax. Not so sure about his descendants but I bet Charles himself doesn't pay taxes. Because he himself is the collector. My point is this, we can't always go off on the revelation or insight that some of this so called Men of God has, because revelation/insight are often time personal. I personally prefer allowing God and Christ himself to reveal stuff to me.

[@olalekanadewale4967]

​@@flamingfirenetwork From Myles perspective, Quite a reasonable perspective but definitely not absolute. Christ brought the kingdom, but if tithe/tax was that essential to the kingdom, why didn't the one that brought the kingdom mentioned anything regarding it? Maybe it's because taxes/tithe weren't really meant for us the Kings, Princes to start with. Remember we are all Kings and Princes, Prince Charles, now King Charles and his descendants are not liable to pay tax. Not so sure about his descendants but I bet Charles himself doesn't pay taxes. Because he himself is the collector. My point is this, we can't always go off on the revelation or insight that some of this so called Men of God has, because revelation/insight are often time personal. I personally prefer allowing God and Christ himself to reveal stuff to me.

[@flamingfirenetwork]

​@@olalekanadewale4967 I really appreciate your feedbacks, I will give just a scripture to support this. Matt 23:23 (Jeesus was the onee speaking heree, not any other person ) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to LEAVEE THE OTHER UNDONE What Jesus was saying here is that the Pharisee elevated things that doesn’t transcend beyond this realm and have neglected the weightier matters. Your faith transcends beyond your death (Faith in thee son of GOD, By faith through grace ), so is your judgement(judge and he not be judged) and mercy: Matt 25: 35. -40. Now your tithing and giving doeesnt transcend beyound this realm. As long as thee earth remains, seed time and harveest, sowing and reeaping. eetc. Your tithe doesnt save you, nor does it have consequence afteer this age. so Jesus was saying here that thee pharisees emphasize what doesnt have eternal significance over what have eteernal significance. Since Jesus himself did not reproof tithing. Tithing is not wrong However, the eneew testament beeliever is supposed to give. liberally because we give becaused we are bleessed, not because we aree mandated. so our proof of giveen is a proof of blessing. so wheen we dont give. its a sign we are showing that GOD doesnt bless us. To wrap it all, if you tithe, its fine, if you dont, its fine also. but the life of a new testament beeliever is not to be confined to thee 10% but rather grow to a point wheree he/she can give all, beecause, we only give because we are now blessed not because of the law

[@sindiswaluthuli1178]

Sooooo balanced. I love it🙌 Glory to Jesus 🙌

[@YourstrulyMo_]

Correct information Complete information Correct application Correct emphasis Correct priority Thank you sir!

[@mechanizedcivilengineering4735]

Correct Information Complete Information (not half truths) Correct Application Correct Emphasis Correct Priority

[@ElysianCreed-qz1tb]

Under 16 minutes... I learnt more than I could ever have imagined. This is meat. Deep teachings... God bless you pastey.

[@michaelmerck7576]

He is still misusing the scriptures

[@YAOF290]

Such a balance sir. Generosity is a lifestyle every believer must earnestly covet.

[@precious_diamondajala5985]

Correct information. Complete information. Correct application. Correct Emphasis. Correct Priority.

[@berachtheblessed]

Visiting people with gifts is such a wholesome and blessed quality to possess. And it can be learnt.

[@ndianau]

Tithe paying or soliciting is an insult to the blood of the new covenant and plain unrighteousness outside the realm of faith. We can’t tip or trip God, He gave us 100% and he owns it all. We give as we have been given , freely. And asking him daily for His will and aligning our will with His. Tithe was a grain Offering and an old ordinance , Christ Jesus, abolished those laws and encourages us to live in love and give of ourselves sacrificially for our familia. If you love God , almost 100% of your expenses will go to kingdom uses. Not a single selfish purchase . Includes keeping your word to Pay ur rent , or give to caeser what is his. ( the tax man , firs etc) . Our kingdom is not built on mammon and it should never be a priority to be preached on a pulpit. Every move of the kingdom on earth is provided for by God and sons of men like us walking in obedience and being angels to ecclesia. Will of God be done through us , kingdom of God come through us , to us and for us! If Christ on earth was silent on something and the apostles didn’t teach it, on who’s authority Are we commanding tithes? And agriculturally themed offering from the Old Testament. Every need of the church is met by the church with the coordination of its leadership , we give freely as we have received freely. It is even sin to preach an old ordinance that Christ outlawed.

[@prettygemini3432]

I fully understand your sentiment. However you might want to revise your biblical knowledge on tithing. The concept of tithing was not started under the Moses law. It was done in the days of Abraham meeting the high priest Melchizedek, in whose order Jesus falls under. This happened way before God gave the laws to Moses. And Jesus did in fact speak on tithing and encouraged us to pay it. Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42. Nonetheless I understand that tithing under the law, the version of tithing that strictly takes 10% and which is punishable if unpaid is abolished. This does not take away the fact that tithing is indeed pleasing to God. As new testament believers out starting point is 10% and we are supposed to increase it as God increases us. Tithing is not just done "when you feel like it".

[@yetundetunde6782]

"Put your money where your faith is"

[@AndrewsTitheReview]

Tithing is biblical. We are compelled by love to give generously beyond %10.

[@indsmind7475]

This was a powerful message, in that it was literally screaming at me 😂😂😂 We learn so much consecration from our parents. The doctrines may not always be "scripturally accurate" but omo their devotion to it ehnnn...

[@giftangelaifeyi]

I'm at the right place. Thank you so much sir. Alot of people mix up the giving you to poor as their own tithe. It should be both. Church and giving the the poor are separate and should be done. Thank you for enlightening us.

[@adeola3805]

Am blessed by this message by the first few minutes

[@inaciadiaz7366]

Tithing was with food. One of the reason for tithing was for the Levite priests because they were not giving land. They were the LORD’s priest. They lived in the temple. Another reason was to help the widows and the Fatherless. Tithing was the old Laws under the old covenant. The book of James says if you break 1 law you break them all. In the New Testament God said this, 2 Corinthians 9:6-8 New American Standard Bible 6 Now I say this: (A)the one who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and the one who sows [a]generously will also reap [b]generously. 7 Each one must do just as he has decided in his heart, not (B)reluctantly or under compulsion, for (C)God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And (D)God is able to make all grace overflow to you, so that, always having all sufficiency in everything, you may have an abundance for every good deed; Under the law you had to give over 10% that was the Law. Now we give what our hearts tells us to give. God was very big about giving to the poor . At times some of pastors are using and richer and richer off your so called tithing money. Remember Levites did not receive land, some of pastors hit homes that are so big brand name clothes while the people are struggling. God also warns us about these wolves and how they will use the word of God and use the people for money. I don’t know these pastor so I am calling him a wolf.

[@precious_diamondajala5985]

I don't give to be blessed. I give because I am blessed

[@tamiausten873]

13:49 it's like the father in Purple Hibiscus; Eugene was a "sponsor/partner" in his church but his sister was struggling. His father 🤦🏾‍♀️ was neglected because he wasn't a christian, he didn't realize that caring for his dad would have won him to Jesus, probably because he wasn't really saved himself 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

[@tinaonwuocha463]

God will bless the remaining 90% n guard it. He will open the windows of Heaven onto you. He said bring it into the store house so He will bless you. In the New Testament they bring everything to the house of God. Remember Ananayas n Sophias tried to keep some back n prophecy dropped n they dropped dead. You will still go to Heaven if you don’t pay tithe. But when you pay, God promised that in blessing He will bless us. You will not be cursed if you don’t pay tithe n will still go to Heaven. This is a powerful message n cautiously delivered.

[@PortalsgateBroadcast]

Excellent BALANCED teaching, particularly teaching within the context of the congregation you oversee. 🙏🙌

[@Ransamie]

Very true Sir. These consecrations just help to create a posture of the heart, not necessarily a LAW!!!

[@Favoured16]

I give because I'm blessed ❤😊

[@sunesis101]

Pst Emmanuel has always been big on BALANCE. Thank you sir.

[@toluelijah9843]

I love this guy

[@markferguson1338]

New Testament believers do not tithe but in stead keep the apostles doctrine on giving which is to give to meet the needs of other believers. Period

[@prettygemini3432]

Why can't you do both?

[@markferguson1338]

@@prettygemini3432 well U can, it's your money to use as U please but it's not a new testament principal to tithe and not even a Biblical principal to tithe money.

[@newwinecreativeempire6515]

​@@prettygemini3432why must you? Why would you say you know God has not commanded you as a Christian to do something, but you still choose to do it because it satisfies some doctrine you've been exposed to from childhood? Just why?

[@prettygemini3432]

@@newwinecreativeempire6515 because tithing is giving to God sacrificially. There's nowhere in the Bible that God said we should stop tithing

[@The_Mirus]

Thank you so much Dad for the way you teach us the truth. I am way more in love with Jesus and Christianity now than I was before i met you.

[@ALUMNIOFFICELMU-nf4rk]

Apostle your are AN APOSTLE SIR

[@ChimaChindaDev]

The subject of tithes is not an important subject in the body of a Christ. In fact it’s not even mentioned by the apostles or taught by Jesus. It’s completely ignored because it has no doctrinal place in Christianity. It has only been made important by pastors who have used legalism to keep millions in bondage.

[@fodogbo]

Very good explanation about giving. Great teaching indeed!

[@Exceptional_Graciee]

Thank you so much Dad! Thank you for always teaching us God's Word with so much clarity and precision. Love you so much Dad!

[@berachtheblessed]

"Something wey even boys dey do now". 😂😂😂🤦‍♀

[@michaelovioisa7236]

This is beyond a tithing message. Pastor Iren, you just nailed alot of Christian teachings. Wow, I was blessed. 💕💯

[@ikechukwuluis-bruce2908]

Cased closed !!! This is the most balanced teaching on TO TITHE or NOT TO TITHE

[@blossomukam5527]

Sound teaching! The body of Christ is so blessed in this age having gifts like Pst Iren.

[@derrickwede7353]

Truly an Apostle of God God bless you Sir

[@soalanissiawoala2976]

Such an expository teaching 🔥🔥The motive of our hearts should always be checked

[@thatmde]

It is the heart that is giving that matters.

[@JoeNat7]

This is so profound. God bless you Pastor Iren. ❤

[@KBIIII]

You dey teach abeg. God bless you sir. "I shouldn't give to receive, I should give because I am blessed". - Mindset change.

[@olufisayoobadina2703]

In the kingdom, you don't give to be blessed. Give because you are blessed

[@RobertaDode]

Pasteyyy🔥I was just having this tithe conversation with a friend few days ago and I am extremelyyyyy grateful that you put up this excerpt at this time (the timelines is apt!). You won’t believe the speed at which I forwarded it to him before I even watched it for myself 😂 This was so timely , thank you sir 🙇🏾‍♀️ thank you !

[@kingsleyehizenaga6206]

Tell this to all top Preachers

[@pierrebells2494]

God wants us to be cheerful givers

[@FX_Motivationz]

Words!! Weightier matter!!!!

[@lodel]

We can never replace consecration with giving and tithing... the state of the heart matters... ❤ the most unbiased sermon and tithing and giving... i just subscribed ❤

[@motiladeoladejo6119]

Finally, someone preaching the true word of God on giving! Thank you sir 🙏

[@philipizemi5734]

Sir am humbled by this teaching, its far beyond tithing. Thank you Sir

[@EmekaAmuta]

Some to church, some to benevolence, some as honor. Ultimately peace of mind. And Yes giving to receive is folly and manipulation is not sincere.

[@oluwatobilobavictoroluokun8932]

Can I i have a link to this film teaching... This man is deep ❤❤🎉 my God 🙏🏽😭

[@samuelmonday8724]

Wonderful teacching sir,be it as it may tithing refers to 10% of your substance practiced under law ,under grace with faith in christ ,the believer who has wieghtier matters in mind gives liberal as a responsible son ,not bounded by 10% and he/she is generous

[@Davo_Baba]

Bless ur heart

[@NumexP]

Haaaaaa!!!! Pastor Iren! Pls when are you in Dallas? This is Rhema!

[@YomleWilliams]

I'm just praying pastey talks about the issue of generational curses

[@anyadikejohn9329]

AEI, you are on point. Putting balance and perspective to this is highly important.

[@eaglesadekunle7403]

Seriously Thanks Sir for this illuminations I already have some sense of entitlement for paying tithe 😂 Pastey God bless you 💞❤️

[@ChibuzorOsinachi]

Thank you sir for the explanation ❤

[@israeliseoluwa6704]

Hmm... I pray, soonest, all men of God will start balancing this giving practice.

[@mattvalor9640]

Profoundly profound.

[@PastorBM]

Thank you my Apostle ! Too much SANITY !!!

[@EntertainmentConsultTv]

This is absolutely powerful and expository message. Everyone should hear this

[@ablazetvmedia]

Chaii🔥🔥🔥 This is so profound and powerful... Thank you Man of God❤

[@ojegbejeololade8191]

God really bless Pastey

[@annondemand6607]

WOW! this is golden teaching. Thank you!

[@callmeeniwo]

Watched this twice! Thank you sir for a refresh

[@stephentackie8093]

Wow, just wow....the clarity is just refreshing

[@joshuaogunse7755]

I love you man of God.And I celebrate your grace sir🤲🏾🙌🏽

[@yetundetunde6782]

You don't give to be blessed. You give because you are blessed. Chai

[@dessysings]

Wow! This teaching has opened my heart to a lot! Thank you, Pastey! ❤

[@egfmfountain1]

P

[@lawlawson2823]

I've never ever heard it like that before..... amazing

[@YomleWilliams]

Pastey of the most high ❤

[@gloriousgospel9508]

I used to see this pastor as new generation pastor that anything goes but what he said here is deep and shows he's one of the oracle's of God.I am so much impressed.Sir please I need your phone number to just greet and appreciate you Sir.Thanks.

[@ImmanuelOluwanifise]

Powerful. Thank you, FATHER, for teachers like this!

[@Sebastinor]

My love for you just increased today,more Grace sir

[@KTalksmoney]

This man is anointed to teach.

[@fguyosimen1166]

The man I love 💡

[@oluwadurotimiayeni6083]

Where to belong ❤

[@udekwefavour3429]

I bless God I encountered your teachings.thank you

[@lordjosh7341]

God bless pastey!

[@iluebbeydavid9369]

God bless you, Sir

[@sopekingsley2621]

Thank you, Pastey ❤️. This teaching never gets old.

[@christed_fingers]

Personal conviction matters, father lord help me focus on things that matters...

[@RonnieDongo]

This is a wonderful teaching.The most important thing which is being taught about giving or being generous is love.

[@israelekeng5353]

Revelation!

[@berachtheblessed]

Weightier matters!!! And, love. Meeehn, this is so rich. Thank you sir!

[@DavidEdet-m2v]

So amazing I'm so blessed

[@tol7493]

I like the way he phrased the teaching but the real subject of tithing was not addressed though. Is tithing a new covenant biblical doctrines? I think we can address that and talk about other issues as well. Is it fair to say tithing is not a requirement from this teaching?

[@joshuaikugbayigbe4485]

Amazing truths

[@anitahorvey7672]

God bless you Sir

[@gibhub01]

God bless you sir ,this teaching has birth more understanding than tge tithe issue

[@kelvindrumsticks2275]

Kai, my father.🔥🔥💯 Thank you so much, Dad.

[@tmk_nimi2189]

So much wisdom Pastey. God bless you

[@MaddyMaddy-j7t]

Thank you apostle.

[@KOLADEAKINDELE-tx6tc]

Wow I'm blessed

[@dammyabidoye5231]

God bless you Pastor Iren... God bless you.

[@paulolokun432]

I love you sir... this is sound teaching..

[@nuelabiama]

Rightly dividing the word of Truth. ❤❤❤

[@rhemaepignosis8801]

Good rendition 🙏.