Mackenzie never wanted Reuben. He wanted Chloe to abort. He wanted her to move away from her family. He's been a total knob since day 1.
@tagapril4211 ай бұрын
He changed when Reuben came. Like a lot of people do. He is his biological father with all the legal rights that go with it. She's a spoiled child throwing a tantrum for not getting what she felt entitled to.
@Bruced8211 ай бұрын
@tagapril42 Meanwhile, man child Mack gets upset that his fiance Charity doesn't want another child, goes sleep with Chloe after the row, tells her to abort/go away when she tells him, never cares during the pregnancy, then suddenly "cares" about Reuben when born. Still wants back with Charity when she finds out, gets denied, starts living with Chloe, while still married, cheats on both, then when Charity changes her mind after the accident, flips again...and fully expects everyone to just role with his mood of the week...
@abbieroseholden417411 ай бұрын
💯 he's very manipulative
@Bruced8211 ай бұрын
This is what Mack wanted, when Chloe asked him if he wanted to be part of the unborn child's life, that or abortion according to him, he never cared when she was pregnant. Fatherhood is not a mood or choice you take up when it suits you...
@aph197611 ай бұрын
Mackenzie was wrong for wanting Chloe to get an abortion but i'm sure he loves his son and maybe Mackenzie knew in the long run their son would be the one most hurt if he stayed with Chloe out of obligation or something and not because he loved her
@tagapril4211 ай бұрын
And motherhood is not using your child as weapon when the married man you got knocked up by in a ONS decided to stay with his wife.
@aks769811 ай бұрын
Moira didn't want anything to do with Isaac, Marlon didn't want anything to do with Leo at one point when Rhona was first pregnant, Laurel nearly aborted Dotty, Sam wanted Alice to abort Samson, Charity sold both Noah and Moses. Does that mean they shouldn't be a part of their children's life now?
@Bruced8211 ай бұрын
@aks7698 Moses isn't with Ross, Seb isn't seeing Robert (or Aaron) anymore, Sarah isn't living with Debbie, Charity lost all access to Johnny (neither with Ross), and Kyle is not with his mother. Plenty of kids are not staying with their bio parents, even when abortion was never considered, and they wanted them as soon as they found out, unlike Mack...
@aks769811 ай бұрын
@@Bruced82 Chloe is a bitter and twisted hypocrite. She is deliberately and maliciously harming her own son to get revenge on his father and if she gets her way Mack (and all of Reuben's extended family) will never see him again. She wasn't able to cope along fully fit and healthy in England. How on earth will she cope alone with a baby in a foreign country when she's not in full health. That is a bit different from the ones you mentioned. Robert is in prison and off screen so we have no idea if he's seeing Seb or not, Charity and Ross co-parent Moses as Charity mentioned just this week, Amy signed her rights away to Kyle (after putting him into foster care on Christmas Day no less after having him home for all of five minutes) then kidnapped him several times yet is still in his life now. You mention them presumably to justify Chloe depriving her child of a loving father but Mack is not a worse parent than any of them.
@eleanahyett303711 ай бұрын
chloe is just bitter. She seems to forget she lied to charity for months and is as much to blame as mack and charity.
@chuckbracken11 ай бұрын
Exactly 😊
@cherrytraveller591510 ай бұрын
Stop blaming the women for Mack mistakes. Need I remind you that Charity and Mack lied just as much about what they were up to behind Chloe back. Need I also remind you that Mack left her to die in the car. You think that she is behaving in a bitter way then you haven't lived much. I know of stories way worse than this that makes this story line look tame
@refelicia82411 ай бұрын
Did she say living her life??? Excuse me?? Did she not know the situation she slept into? She’s the one who got into a complicated situation and now feels entitled to happiness because of the downfall from that situation
@cherrytraveller591511 ай бұрын
Just because she knows the situation doesn’t mean she wants to be around to see them at it. It is still fresh for her and would still be painful. Also small village so there is no escape from them
@Bruced8211 ай бұрын
Mack pretended to be with her, proposed even, but it was just false promises. Charity is making the same mistake, with taking him, and his mess back...
@Clamfaced11 ай бұрын
"Now you know how it feels" says the girl who lied through her entire 9 month pregnancy
@mockingbird135311 ай бұрын
The two of them are horrible people but imagine the audacity to think you alone will be enough for your baby on another country when you couldn't even make it on your own
@lauragavin992311 ай бұрын
That was devastating for a Father. How did Chloe get a passport for Ruben without Makenzie's legal consent as the other parent. Often taught maybe Makenzie is not the biological father.
@joshcoyle380411 ай бұрын
Yes he is
@yvonnejaime126611 ай бұрын
Poor Mackenzie! Chloe is just a young lady that will do whatever she can to hurt him now. She's a human being that feels what any of us would feel in this situation. Life is crazy like that.
@dannynix273211 ай бұрын
🙄
@dillsterscouseofficial11 ай бұрын
This story is showing what's true to many people use there kids as weapons
@abbieroseholden417411 ай бұрын
Sorry am kinda on Chloe's side. He continually manipulated and schemed when Chloe was pregnant, let her die in the car.
@yvonnejaime126611 ай бұрын
@@abbieroseholden4174 I could understand how she feels. My son's father cheated on me with a young girl at his job. I felt that anger and hatred. I didn't use my child as a weapon to hurt him back. That's not fair to my son. Chloe doesn't have to be with him. Why put Reuben through that? Her revenge should be to live happily. Deep down she knows this is wrong. Unless she doesn't have a conscience.
@Bruced8211 ай бұрын
@@yvonnejaime1266 Mack told her to abort and go far away with her unborn son, then pretends to be with her to get access, then flips again, and expects everyone to just roll with his mood of the month... If it had been up to Mack, there wouldn't even be a Reuben...
@teresawinston355111 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but Mack running after that car was very funny to me😂😂😂
@cherrytraveller591511 ай бұрын
It was to me as well 😂😂😂😂
@adriansampson697011 ай бұрын
That shot of Cain and Caleb at 4:35 is clearly an error as that scene is shown later on.
@AdamDawson311 ай бұрын
She is not allowed to do that
@roosternz11 ай бұрын
Good on Chloe! Mack should learn how not to treat a woman. I can see it will only happen again and Charity will be broken again.
@joshcoyle380411 ай бұрын
Yeah and Chloe and charity desvere better than Mack he’s not really worth it
@AdamJamesEarlyChasebliss-ru8tq10 ай бұрын
Yeah, how can charity relax and trust him?!
@joshcoyle380410 ай бұрын
@@AdamJamesEarlyChasebliss-ru8tq yeah exactly charity deserves someone a lot better than him he will still cheat on her again as he always does and men like him don’t change
@cecilee603911 ай бұрын
Happy Thanksgiving 🦃 Watched the show with relatives who had never seen it and they couldn't believe Mack would choose Charity over Chloe and the baby 😂
@lauragavin992311 ай бұрын
😁 Happy Thanksgiving.
@tirsus148211 ай бұрын
Why he should stay with someone he doesn't love?
@cecilee603911 ай бұрын
@@tirsus1482My family, here in America, have no clue who any of these characters are. I think they were just going by first impressions 😂
@lindamulqueen97611 ай бұрын
He didn't choose Charity over Chloe and the baby. He chose Charity over Chloe. Babies shouldn't come into this
@joshcoyle380410 ай бұрын
@@lindamulqueen976 no but they do and they will lose them if the parents cheat on each other
@gazaman756111 ай бұрын
Thank you Chloe karma is a bi*ch
@mariamzare473111 ай бұрын
Where is Chloe Karma, she is not even suffering from the break up she turned it around him, where is her Karma.
@cherrytraveller591511 ай бұрын
@@mariamzare4731surly being in a car crash is enough punishment. There is also the fact that she invested into the dream that was her and Mack. That dream died when he picked Charity over her.
@mariamzare473111 ай бұрын
@@cherrytraveller5915 You are not wrong, but for me she hasn't suffered enough and even if she had, taking Reuben from Mack doesn't make it fair, it's worst.
@crescentartdesigns11 ай бұрын
Chloe is getting pretty violent with Mackenzie by pushing him down to the floor.
@aph197611 ай бұрын
I don't condone violence but maybe Chloe needed to let her anger out by pushing Mackenzie.
@crescentartdesigns11 ай бұрын
@@aph1976 true by using words
@tagapril4211 ай бұрын
@@aph1976that's not the way to get your anger out. And she did it to get away from him so she could flee. Amy already told her it's illegal and she doesn't give a crap.
@abbieroseholden417411 ай бұрын
It was actually Amy who pushed Mackenzie on the floor
@crescentartdesigns11 ай бұрын
@@abbieroseholden4174 her violence is not the answer
@tirsus148211 ай бұрын
Chloe's stupid. She could've said that she's moving to live with Amy for awhile and that's why she has packed. Well sure, of course the door is now locked. Also how stupid Mack is when she didn't go the check the back door?🤦♀And Chloe kidnapped Reuben. The only one I'm feeling sorry for is poor little Reuben.
@joshcoyle380410 ай бұрын
No she didn’t she’s still his Mum and she has a right to look after him
@melissasayles426311 ай бұрын
He did choose to let her potentially die though leaving rueben without a mother
@hannah-nq5qt11 ай бұрын
God chole is just bitter and cold hearted woman, she has no right to take his son away from him
@joshcoyle380410 ай бұрын
Yes she does Mack bullied her and made her life hell and she is still his mum and she is still allowed to take him anywhere she wants Mack can’t be trusted and charity deserves someone better than him he’s not really worth it
@sashaflorence247711 ай бұрын
Mack is going to blame Charity for this, they don’t deserve to have each other
@lauragavin992311 ай бұрын
Yes, Chloe said to Amy that she was going to ruin Makenzie and Charity's relationship by taken Ruben .. because Makenzie will be missing his son.
@jasonbrosnan877011 ай бұрын
Serves him right, he left chloe to die and chose to save the village bike instead of the mother of his son
@eleanahyett303711 ай бұрын
he saved his wife
@joshcoyle380410 ай бұрын
Yeah and he shouldn’t have left her to die and she was so scared that she would never see Reuben again charity and chloe deserve someone so much better than him hes a useless dad and a useless husband and he bullied chloe and made her life hell charity would be better off with vanessa
@mackenziemiller3311 ай бұрын
This is just like when Amy wanted full custody of Kyle And Cain didn’t want her to have him and when Matty told Cain and Moira they were angry with Amy Now Chloe’s taken Ruben away from Mackenzie This isn’t good
@jessicalowe569511 ай бұрын
The fact that there's actually mums out there who have the audacity to say 'we' don't want you 'we' don't need you it's disgusting a loving parent should be allowed to parent. No one parent is more important than another. I know it's a TV show but these things happen in real life and it sickens me
@Beautycomesoutofashes11 ай бұрын
He did let her die though. Not that I agree with how she’s going about this. It’s very wrong but he is not fit to look after himself, his wife.. never mind a child.
@mayjune789011 ай бұрын
Mack is a very selfish character at the end of the day, he’s first instinct is to do what’s best for him at any particular moment
@lindamulqueen97611 ай бұрын
Absolutely couldn't agree more. And annoying they let them get away with it on soaps-it gives people watching soaps ideas. I'm hoping he calls the police.
@jessicalowe569511 ай бұрын
@@Beautycomesoutofashes no he didn't she drove angry which lead to the accident and he made an impossible decision then instantly went to find her and get help.
@Sasha-ce4tu11 ай бұрын
He ain't the dad
@kathleencorson-lh3pz11 ай бұрын
He is Reuben's father. They slept together while Mackenzie was still happily married to Charity. Chloe ruined that marriage not Mackenzie. But all is good now that Mackenzie is back where he belongs with Charity as Charity's husband and Moses's stepdad. Moses was so happy that his mother and Mack are back together as a reunited happily married couple. Mackenzie has moved back in to their house. The house and ready-made family that Mackenzie was part of until Chloe ruined it.
@teresawinston355111 ай бұрын
@@kathleencorson-lh3pzshe slept with multiple people she was with Jack and than nat one night stand with Mack. And no dna test was done so he might not be the dad
@Bruced8211 ай бұрын
@@kathleencorson-lh3pz Mack ran off to sleep with someone else, after he couldn't talk Charity into having yet another child (understandable, she wouldn't). Why Charity even wants this man child back... Moses is too young to get it, but Noah and Sarah's reactions speak volumes.
@aph197611 ай бұрын
@@kathleencorson-lh3pz No offense but when Chloe and Mackenzie had sex Mackenzie was married and not Chloe right?Plus as other people have pointed out Mackenzie wanted Chloe to have an abortion or to leave town.So if Chloe wants to leave with Rueben why doesn't Mackenzie let her because that's what he wanted when she was pregnant and maybe once she's calmed down wherever she ends up living she'll let Mac see Rueben
@nadineopa402111 ай бұрын
MacKenzie got what he deserved. But I don't like Chloe either.
@lindamulqueen97611 ай бұрын
Im really hoping he calls the police. It is never okay to take a baby away from the other parent when the arguments are nothing to do with tne child. So sick of soaps letting this kind of thing happen and then people watching thinking this is acceptable behaviour when it is not.
@kieronspiteri11 ай бұрын
Mackenzie will get his son back
@lindamulqueen97611 ай бұрын
I really hope so
@kathleencorson-lh3pz11 ай бұрын
I'm so glad that Mackenzie knows about Chloe's plan to take Reuben. Pushing him to the floor so she can make her getaway with Reuben. Wait until Moira and Cain know. It won't look good for Chloe in the long run. Chloe will lose Reuben for sure once this custody thing goes to court. Chloe will have no choice but to bring Reuben back to his dad.
@StellaPayne2411 ай бұрын
Did....did you not watch the scene? Moira and Cain were THERE
@Bruced8211 ай бұрын
Doubt they'll get heavily involved, Cain is no fan of Mack, and even Moira seems conflicted. Also, Kyle is staying with them with Amy's permission and his wishes, they probably want to stay neutral.
@lindamulqueen97611 ай бұрын
Chloe won't lose Reuben, not in a UK court
@joshcoyle380410 ай бұрын
Amy pushed Mack on the floor by accident not chloe
@abbieroseholden417410 ай бұрын
Be interesting if Chloe and Sarah became a couple ❤
@anneliselim60210 ай бұрын
For anyone that's on asshole Mackenzie's side, I hope y'all meet a man like him. Then you'd know not everyone deserves to have children. Ruebern deserves a father that is BETTER than Mackenzie. And Chloe needs to leave this man that's dragging him down. Breaking up is not enough, she needs to cut him off completely. In real life, it works like that too, mother gets child custody especially if the child is very young. The baby is more attached to the mother and vice versa. The mum carried and gave birth. Fathers could never sacrifice this much, biologically. They only provide the sperm one time. Ofc if throughout the child's life, the father took care of the child more then he should get child custody, but this is a baby so definitely goes to the mum.
@RetroGeek9411 ай бұрын
Mackenzie is one of the most dull boring characters on this show. Honestly after first cheating on her and leaving her to die this is karma. Don't feel sorry for Mack at all.
@mariamzare473111 ай бұрын
Where is Chloe Karma, she is not even suffering from the break up she turned it around him, where is her Karma.
@joshcoyle380410 ай бұрын
Me neither he can’t be trusted and charity deserves someone much better than him
@mxmmianaxo116011 ай бұрын
good riddance, but i hope Mack gets Reuben back 😪
@cindyblair11 ай бұрын
Sarah has no loyalty
@Bruced8211 ай бұрын
Like Debbie, Sarah is figuring out Charity, and her love interests are a lost cause.
@eleanahyett303711 ай бұрын
i agree. sarah is hypocrite as well after she lied for months for chloe
@Bruced8211 ай бұрын
@@eleanahyett3037 She lied because she didn't want Charity to have yet another relationship disaster, and the meltdown it goes with. (Charity was begging Mack not to be yet another messed up relationship, but that ship had sailed...)
@abbieroseholden417410 ай бұрын
Chloe's adoptive sister saved Sarah's life with her heart transplant
@kpoca91411 ай бұрын
Just another reason not to like Chloe shes bitter so shes seperating a father from his son.
@cherrytraveller591511 ай бұрын
He did that himself. What do you think was going to happen. Was she supposed to stay and watch him and Charity live the life she imagined she was going to have with Mack.
@lindamulqueen97611 ай бұрын
@@cherrytraveller5915no she did that to herself. She shouldn't have got involved with someone who was with someone else. She should have used protection. He is no angel but Chloe is all kinds of wrong
@joshcoyle380410 ай бұрын
@@cherrytraveller5915 yeah she can’t just bare to see her son live with his dad and the women he’s married with to just tell her son to give a second thought about his mum
@Kelsey-93x11 ай бұрын
Is Mackenzie even Reuben’s biological Father like I sense now Chloe taken herself and Reuben away stopping Mackenzie from seeing Him I feel Mackenzie is now gonna demand a dna test then it’ll become that Reuben is Mackenzie biological son