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This Mercy says DIAMOND AND SILVER are THE SAME

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@TheCyanideMonster
@TheCyanideMonster 10 ай бұрын
Bruh, their Diamond games feel like Silver because they're playing like a Silver. Holy hell...
@blair4368
@blair4368 10 ай бұрын
i was about to say kiriko is hardly hitting ANY shots and hardly healing the dps only healing tank and duo lmao complaining while also being the silver player
@Doggo2-fn8hu
@Doggo2-fn8hu 10 ай бұрын
If I didn't know this was Diamond, I would think this is silver. I would know. I play silver
@ppsmellyyy
@ppsmellyyy 10 ай бұрын
@@Doggo2-fn8hubut you aren’t diamond, granted games don’t really drastically change until you get to around masters - but still , if this looks like your silver games, then why aren’t you diamond? See the irony in your statement.
@bourbiespeedrun
@bourbiespeedrun 10 ай бұрын
So are they Diamond or Silver, i'm lost the gameplay looks like 100% Silver gameplay but the Kiriko plays controller so if they are in a console lobby they maybe can be Diamond/Master console? (Other things that make me think is silver was that switch Kiriko to Mercy "They need healing so he switch Kiriko", why just removing a main support for an off support if ppl needs a lot of healing?) IDK i'm very lost in that video
@blair4368
@blair4368 10 ай бұрын
@@bourbiespeedrun they're in a diamond lobby in this video and as a console player console diamond/masters isnt as bad as pc players paint it out to be obviously theres a skill gap between pc & console but when i was in diamond almost masters last season i kept running into very skilled hanzos and its not like aim assist will help with hanzo (since his shots are projectiles) and most skilled console hanzos will have it very low if on at on because it honestly gets in the way when you play him with aim assist this is just another example of boosted supports my aim on mercy is better than this kiriko and i hardly have played mercy for the past 3/4 seasons i wouldnt even need valk to go up against her even if she had suzu
@akosiaimeee
@akosiaimeee 10 ай бұрын
The other dps is so neglected, and this mercy has the audacity to even ask if she's not healing enough, plus their kiriko is so bad for a diamond
@trvpnest
@trvpnest 10 ай бұрын
their reactions are so slow on both kiriko and mercy. makes me wonder how they got all the way to diamond
@OhLatte
@OhLatte 10 ай бұрын
Imo ranks aren’t the same anymore. diamond is like new gold/low plat from how many people managed to rank up from the new system. It’s so easy now
@akosiaimeee
@akosiaimeee 10 ай бұрын
@@OhLatte not really. Maybe in console but not in pc
@lumenox8541
@lumenox8541 10 ай бұрын
@@akosiaimeee yes really. all the new players that came with the release of OW2 have pushed all the old players up.
@MikuH8sU
@MikuH8sU 10 ай бұрын
@@lumenox8541 u honestly aren’t wrong, even flats talked abt ow2 potentially needing a new rank introduced somewhere
@stbsgtreed3147
@stbsgtreed3147 10 ай бұрын
this looks like a boosted support to me. Rose thru the ranks by just damage boosting their duo. Evidenced by the fact they never look to really heal anyone else.
@evilynx0
@evilynx0 10 ай бұрын
it aint hard to climb with the pocket playstyle but this is fr no diamond mercy gameplay... def boosted
@eachfilly825
@eachfilly825 10 ай бұрын
I didn't see this comment before I did mine but yes completely agree.
@Alex_Aramayo
@Alex_Aramayo 10 ай бұрын
Just OW no matter the platform have SO MANY boosted Mercy's & it pisses me off having them as my other Support especially when what they always go next to is Moira
@Caboun3
@Caboun3 10 ай бұрын
Remember the good old times of having 3 mercy mains on your team before role queue was a thing?@@Alex_Aramayo
@AMQWERTY379
@AMQWERTY379 10 ай бұрын
reminded me of a joke i read under one of jay3's vids "what's the difference between silver 2 mercy and gm2 mercy? their boyfriend"
@user-pf6pw6un7s
@user-pf6pw6un7s 10 ай бұрын
something important to mention is the mercy’s lack of awareness. as a mercy you should be looking around constantly. you should search for all of your teammates consistently and consider whether or not you’re needed or will be needed in certain situations. this mercy was looking straight forward or at their beam target quite often when they should have been looking at their surroundings far more. you should be looking towards doorways and other spots you know the enemy team could push in or flank from. you honestly should only be glancing towards your beam target every once in awhile. think of your beam target like checking your speedometer while driving. another good point to mention, as a mercy your job is to support your dps so the other support can focus on your tank, unless your playing with a low healing second support then you may need to heal your tank far more than usual.
@sethescope
@sethescope 10 ай бұрын
comparing looking at your beam target with looking at your speedometer while driving is actually genius. that's such a great way to put it.
@walker1686
@walker1686 10 ай бұрын
And I feel like their game sense was off sometimes.. for that type of elo. Sigma ult. 2 people get ulted. One gets bubble and one doesn’t. But she decided to heal the person w the bubble. Just something settle I noticed. But ur pretty much saying everything
@kujikawathemeekmage3640
@kujikawathemeekmage3640 9 ай бұрын
You got nothing else to do mechanically so might as well look around
@alexzedostuff8591
@alexzedostuff8591 9 ай бұрын
Best comment ever
@IamYasuraka
@IamYasuraka 8 ай бұрын
​@@kujikawathemeekmage3640its not really a "might as well" kind of thing, that's the entire point of the hero and she was designed to be this way on purpose
@jillslovebot
@jillslovebot 10 ай бұрын
mercy needs to learn to help others then just her duo
@Bbistheman_
@Bbistheman_ 10 ай бұрын
The worst part is the other DPS was definitely better than their duo
@ZarelidT
@ZarelidT 10 ай бұрын
The mercy being this way has the audacity to say “Diamond is the same as silver I dunno what’s going on!?” Whata boosted player
@jillslovebot
@jillslovebot 10 ай бұрын
@@ZarelidT for real
@jillslovebot
@jillslovebot 10 ай бұрын
@@Bbistheman_ they were
@bmoxley16
@bmoxley16 10 ай бұрын
That team did not deserve that sym they tried so hard lol
@DCWProduction
@DCWProduction 10 ай бұрын
It feels like they are deliberately not healing that DPS
@akatsukimoontb
@akatsukimoontb 10 ай бұрын
As a support player, 100%. This behavior was on purpose. The Mercy was choosing to ignore the dps player because she thought the dps was bad, instead of recognizing that she was the weak link on the team because she wasn't playing her hero anywhere near correctly.
@SSMAexopp
@SSMAexopp 10 ай бұрын
Yea I was trash for like 1 team fight then the mercy chooses to not heal me and not let me cook.
@PerpetuusTenebris
@PerpetuusTenebris 9 ай бұрын
@@akatsukimoontb No, it was more that the other DPS was their duo and they were only bothering with their duo.
@eachfilly825
@eachfilly825 10 ай бұрын
Hopefully its an awakening for this person to get better. Be a support for your entire team not just one and maybe the tank if needed
@brew.3032
@brew.3032 10 ай бұрын
You can tell this isn’t silver because everyone’s not running to the cart one at a time, not running down main the whole game, and the team plays together for the most part. Silver and bronze are chaos. And as someone who somehow ends up in both silver and diamond games… yeah this tracks 😅
@mlgtactics9911
@mlgtactics9911 10 ай бұрын
The other teams DPS isn't silver at least because of how fast this persons sym/bastion gets burned down.
@commentbot9510
@commentbot9510 10 ай бұрын
I’m silver on dps and diamond on other roles (if you say aim doesn’t matter, fuck you) but my silver games aren’t like that. One extremely consistently terrible thing about silver is that the supports have their monitors and headphones turned off so they never know when you need healing. How tf am I supposed to play the game when every time I take damage I have to go run to a healthpack? You can’t always position close to one. That’s how I know this Mercy is silver skill and gold at best.
@DBJnes2099
@DBJnes2099 10 ай бұрын
I feel for the Cassidy...plenty of times i can be right next to both healers be critical and not get a single heal. A lot of tunnel vision out there. Then they complain when you hit the need healing button once.
@satamiko
@satamiko 10 ай бұрын
I don't understand such people... I kinda actually forget about my duo instead of the other way around just due to trusting them to be smart about it and hide and call me if needed instead, helping the other dps instead. How are people tunneling so much on their friends in higher ranks-... Are their friends that boosted that they need babysitting? xd
@octocoq
@octocoq 10 ай бұрын
When I need healing and aren’t getting it, I hit that X key, I don’t care, I need healing! It’s there for a reason! I never get offended when I hear it on support cause it might let me know that someone off screen needs heals.
@Raize-Ikki
@Raize-Ikki 10 ай бұрын
I would’ve just been like sorry and healed. Do better bad supports
@VitoriaIam
@VitoriaIam 10 ай бұрын
As a support main who occasionally plays dps, that pisses me off. It’s so easy to just turn around and heal whoever is within your los, there’s no excuse for letting a dps who’s right beside you go like 1min with no heals
@roseykitty8748
@roseykitty8748 10 ай бұрын
@zeldacereza yeah I agree, sometimes I don't realize someones behind me on low health especially when im focusing on the fight to make sure no one dies.. there's been times ive turned around and was shocked to see someone standing there with critical health for who knows how long! Notifying your supports when your low is so so important!!
@marthajimenez3421
@marthajimenez3421 10 ай бұрын
Their reaction time is painfully slow. Worse on Kiri than on Mercy.
@walker1686
@walker1686 10 ай бұрын
Yeaaa I was like holy is this how diamond looks like 💀💀
@Anyrhing77
@Anyrhing77 10 ай бұрын
@@walker1686 she is boosted
@nursestan7788
@nursestan7788 8 ай бұрын
@@Anyrhing77and console
@ObsidianQuasar
@ObsidianQuasar 10 ай бұрын
I was cheering for the neglected DPS
@deathtrapsnap
@deathtrapsnap 10 ай бұрын
As a support in 90% of games i play (because most just want to do damage), i agree with the keeping everyone healthy sentiment. Crits/headshots exist. And that 20 hp you healed may just let them survive one
@Kitamanjaro
@Kitamanjaro 10 ай бұрын
I'm actually impressed this mercy actually tried to rez someone else than her duo, but watching the other dps just not getting heals hits way to close to home. When I'm supporting I'm always looking to top off everyones health, but when I dps I just play around healthpacks, I never expect any heals. Too many of these tunnelvisioned duos out there
@Katekyo504
@Katekyo504 10 ай бұрын
No wonder they have experience in silver. That seems like where they belong with that level of awareness.
@MikuH8sU
@MikuH8sU 10 ай бұрын
Mercy /is/ a pocket support. That is where most of her value comes from. With that being said some people take that too literally and pick one person to prioritize without much consideration of what is actually going on/who the better beam target would be in the given circumstance. This is primarily a case of needing better target priority imo. You can pocket one DPS and still top off the other/keep them in mind,, sure there will be niche situations that call for hard pocketing but I mean generally speaking.
@hailsy04209
@hailsy04209 10 ай бұрын
@@choccy_bagelthis is how I play. I’m gonna prioritize DMG boosting the ulting dps hero and I’m going to top them off at all times (and help my tank if they need it) I’ll DMG boost whoever has the best visibility of the enemies and whoever is actively fighting. It’s how you’re supposed to play her I believe
@aleksandragorgol6696
@aleksandragorgol6696 8 ай бұрын
Actually every GM Mercy I watch on yt/twitch actually says don‘t pocket too much. You‘ll get the most heal/dmg boost output (and therefore the most advantage of Mercy) by switching your beam targets. Only pocket if necessary and useful (prio Soldier/Ashe/Soujorn). In the end it’s always better to get more ults ready (fast) for the next team fight than a single dps ult.
@MikuH8sU
@MikuH8sU 8 ай бұрын
@@aleksandragorgol6696 yes, that is essentially what i am discussing in my comment. i am just a mere masters support main, so i of course don’t know all, but most of everything ive learned abt her has been from grandmaster mercy mains who often vocalize her ability to enable. that of course comes from her kit, which is pocket based. that’s why i said having good beam priority is everything, as hard pocketing is niche and depends on a lot of factors. good beam priority doesn’t just mean who to damage boost to secure kills, but who to farm valk off of, who you can help get their ult faster etc. she is very flexible and is made for enabling, and she shouldn’t just let one person reap those benefits in a lot of scenarios. especially since you can pocket someone, say a dps, and still enable the rest of your team when important. i think once this player works on those things, they’ll be able to be more impactful in game ^^
@assimilater-quicktips
@assimilater-quicktips 10 ай бұрын
Man, that junk/sym/cas/bastion is me a lot of the time when I play dps lol. I’ll walk up to my supports face after a fight, stare at them with half my health for a few seconds and then have them walk away to move up with the tank at the next fight, and I’m still sitting on point with low hp 😂
@Koselill
@Koselill 18 күн бұрын
Im ngl sometimes I think im the person whos furthest in the back and then I hear a couple of need healing behind me, I turn around and they're like 10hp 💀Terribly sorry for all my DPS's who feel ignored 🙏Id never do what this person is doing though. Just look at them and see they're low and ignore it...
@assimilater-quicktips
@assimilater-quicktips 18 күн бұрын
@@Koselill ya hiding behind a support is a great way to be unintentionally ignored. That’s on them to hit x at that point, but if I’m putting myself in front of your weapon to try and catch heals as you shoot them we’ll then I got issue 😜
@svgarpaws
@svgarpaws 10 ай бұрын
I joke all the time that masters feels like gold, and getting people like her as my second support is definitely the reason for that 🥴
@trvpnest
@trvpnest 10 ай бұрын
7:44 that mercy left her zarya to die to go revive a hanzo lmao
@commiekayy
@commiekayy 7 ай бұрын
I agree that it’s hilarious but, the Zarya was antied so she would’ve died anyway lol
@Gatrax
@Gatrax 10 ай бұрын
Diamond Kiriko here. this kiriko is hella boosted, this was awful for diamond. ALL of their suzus were late, their positioning was awful, they NEVER weave damage between heals and when they DO contribute damage they miss all their shots good lord if your other support is ana, stop standing next to her. take a different angle. do some damage. do SOMETHING to contribute to winning the game
@-.vamp.
@-.vamp. 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. I'm a tank main in diamond and I could play mercy better than this (which they shouldn't have even been playing mercy because of the sym hanzo dps)
@svgarpaws
@svgarpaws 10 ай бұрын
@@-.vamp.ehh, I mean both of them are a decent damage boost options, especially Sym, she just needed to stop sitting on her duo and *actually* heal/boost that Sym.
@IamYasuraka
@IamYasuraka 8 ай бұрын
As a lifelong console player that's currently beginning to learn KBM, hitting your shots on kiri (a flick-heavy hero) on a controller consistently is very very hard. I've done leagues better with aiming in the past 3 days of learning KBM than i have for the past two years that i've been playing kiri on controller. And i'm masters.
@thousandwords20
@thousandwords20 5 ай бұрын
my thoughts exactly. this has to be a troll. there is no way this person really thinks anyone will believe they are diamond.
@sethescope
@sethescope 10 ай бұрын
5:16 just a small quick note here - turning your camera to the floor during res doesn't protect your head hitbox. you're locked in the upright animation for res regardless of where you are looking. so don't bother doing that and instead use the 1.75 seconds to look for an escape route and look for what you need to do next. imo, bastion is a much better damage boost target than hanzo, so i think choosing to stick with hanzo after they swapped to bastion was a poor choice. boosting turret form and bastion right click is massive, so you definitely did not help put pressure on the enemy team on last point. tbh, i know this isn't true, but the way you've ignored the other dps does make it seem like you've got a grudge against them. that's how pervasive and consistent the issue has been. i know you don't lol sometimes we just make mistakes and they're not intentional at all. but it's a sign that this was a pattern of behavior and not an isolated mistake 10:01 you seem to have a habit of just staring at your beam target. try to look around more. it will let you be more proactive and it will give you the information you need to position well and anticipate what might happen next. 11:00 i sorta disagree with emongg here. cassidy was safe and under no pressure and not doing damage to the other team (which is fine, they were capping the point) and only missing a tiny bit of hp. the rest of the team was pushed up and taking and doing damage. its way more valuable to support those teammates and then heal cassidy when there's a bit of downtime. BUT to be honest, based on your gameplay as a whole, I don't think this was an intentional play on your part. I'm not confident you even noticed or processed that they needed healing, which is a major red flag and issue you need to work on addressing. 14:05 kinda wasted valk here. your teammates were all low ground, the enemy was high ground, and no one was in a position to really do damage to the enemy. the only time you really got any value at all was in the last 3-4 seconds. wait until the team fight has properly begun and your teammates are in good positions to do damage to the enemy. thats when you will have impactful valks. 14:31 okay gamer lol you tunnel visioned on wanting to get a kill and turned your back on your entire team when you could see that your Ashe got really low while you were beaming them. this 100% seems like you just wanted an elim for the sake of an elim, not because you getting the elim was the most valuable contribution you could make to the team in that moment. gotta watch out for that because that's how you can easily lose team fights. 14:54 i disagree with emongg. an enemy was on the bridge staring at the corpse and it was entirely in the open. going for that res would have been incredibly silly. 15:14 I'm generally a big fan of boosting a zarya but zarya already has ult and cass doesn't AND cass has reliable long range damage. boost cassidy here. 15:50 always damage boost cass ult and i also think you should typically try to body block for them so they don't get slept or something. it was the end of the round, sure, but it's a good habit to get into. (edit: i didn't see that you were damage boosting at the end, mb, but i think body blocking was a better idea than going for the kill on ashe BUT i think it's a matter of opinion in this case) 18:12 falling back was definitely a safer more than going forward towards the enemy team. i get it, you were getting damaged and we all panic sometimes, but flying towards the enemy team is guaranteed death. 18:27 I don't understand why you don't damage boost your reaper here and why you stop beaming them. reaper may not typically be an S tier damage boost target, but they are looking to do damage so boosting them is infinitely more valuable than doing absolutely nothing as you do here for several seconds 19:56 why on earth are you on cart? you should know cart isn't Mercy's job right now. your tank is right there on cart. you unnecessarily put yourself in such a dangerous position and weren't even looking around to get more information, you just smushed your face against the cart lol 20:01 prioritize cover first. you NEED to stay alive here and there was absolutely no reason you should have sacrificed safety for speed here. just get around the corner first and then res. you dying is the reason your team didn't have a chance to win this last fight, and you could have easily prevented this death. overall, i think you have a lot of very basic fundamentals that you need to focus on. you prioritize damage boost very well, but your overall awareness needs a lot of work. you need to remember that your job is to support your TEAM, not just one person. yes, you can contribute a lot of value by damage boosting, but this doesn't mean the rest of the team isn't your responsibility. if you can trust your other support to heal the tank, you should focus on keeping the dps up when everyone is playing together. BOTH of them. also, look to damage boost whoever is actively doing damage, not the on-paper "ideal" target who isn't even in position to do damage yet. overall, just work on paying more attention to your entire team. constantly check on everyone's health and their positioning. consider positioning in places where you can help your current beam target but also quickly help the rest of your team too, if possible. focus on remembering that you need to support the TEAM, not just one person.
@asimplewizard
@asimplewizard 10 ай бұрын
Spinning around during a rez is a great tactic too, since you get a chance to look for a clear escape and your wings actually will protect your hitbox. You can survive a surprising amount of times with the spin2win
@lonzoball5433
@lonzoball5433 10 ай бұрын
Yap
@sethescope
@sethescope 10 ай бұрын
@@asimplewizard i personally don't think spin2win is a good tactic. if you're spinning fast, you can't see much detailed information, and it doesn't do anything substantial to protect you. I feel like if you need to spin during the res, the res isn't a good idea in the first place. that's my thought on it at least
@sethescope
@sethescope 10 ай бұрын
@@lonzoball5433 if it's too much text for you to read and understand in one sitting, I can always summarize it for you :) I assume that's why you're trying to belittle me - because this much text intimidates you.
@asimplewizard
@asimplewizard 10 ай бұрын
@@sethescope bro... Writing a long text thing is fine. Stop acting like a Discord mod about it. Nobody is intimidated by it - hell I gave good a faith response and I barely read 1/10th of it. Chill TF out. Go outside.
@jaekawang
@jaekawang 9 ай бұрын
its genuinely so frustrating when you have a dps that is the perfect meta/pocket candidate yet a mercy will pocket their duo whose playing someone like hanzo or genji lol
@laovers
@laovers 10 ай бұрын
as a mercy main this pained me to watch lmaoo😭 when she randomly stopped moving and she’s just not looking around and not paying attention to her team really ticked me off
@nxtsuh
@nxtsuh 10 ай бұрын
How is this diamond? LOL I feel like you were being way too nice on the kiriko, she could've 100% done more. Even 2 mins into the video, there's so many mistakes: delayed reaction, delayed suzu, heal botting teammates who are only 10 hp down, lack of tp usage, absolutely no aggression. This team was a mess
@purplepandagirl3360
@purplepandagirl3360 10 ай бұрын
it’s fine to heal bot in certain situations if everyone is low or if you need to farm a quick kitsune but this person def wasn’t trying to do either lol
@PureSinaatraa
@PureSinaatraa 9 ай бұрын
I believe this is Console. As someone who has played both PC and console extensively they’re is a huge gap. I would argue that there is a maybe a 1 1/2 rank difference. Console mid Diamond is low platinum
@IamYasuraka
@IamYasuraka 8 ай бұрын
​@@PureSinaatraait is, he says its console in the first 10 seconds of the video lol
@IRunYou
@IRunYou 5 ай бұрын
As someone that main console i say youre full of it, there is no skill gap between console and pc until you start getting into owl and contender teams and this has been proven multiple times, my games are never like this​@PureSinaatraa
@IRunYou
@IRunYou 5 ай бұрын
​@@IamYasurakadon't believe what he said
@delightful-ish
@delightful-ish 10 ай бұрын
10:39 this is a huge pet peeve of mine. Support not looking around to top people off when absolutely nothing else is happening.
@dragona-joestar
@dragona-joestar 10 ай бұрын
As someone who finally hit diamond 2 after months climbing from bronze, I’ve been in silver and let me tell you they’re not the same at all. This supp has terrible awareness/reaction timing, very sad.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 10 ай бұрын
This player has low silver awareness at best lmao whats even going on? How are they in any world saying "my team mates in plat are better than the ones in Diamond"? Actually I think I know why. I think the tempo of fights is generally lower in plat, which lets this support player keep up with who needs help when, and actually don't get punished for slacking on how quick they react with healing the right allies at the right time. In Diamond things move a lot faster, so neglecting or being unaware is punished much faster, which leads to your team mates dying more. Not because they're worse, but because you as a support are failing at keeping up with the general tempo of the Diamond match. Your ability use is what keeps you above silver. Your lack of awareness is what's keeping you from actually deserving a higher rank. On average I'd rate this as gold - mostly because supports can get a lot of value without too much input rn and that benefits this player a lot.
@sethescope
@sethescope 10 ай бұрын
your insight about the pace of fights in plat vs diamond really resonates with me and I think you're right on the money. plat fights are much slower; I can feel totally calm and relaxed in low plat games, but I've had games in high plat lobbies where many people were diamond and I felt like I was hanging on for dear life LOL
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 10 ай бұрын
@@sethescope Yep that is a very common experience, especially amplified by the fact that all the players in high plat lobbies are either fighting to breach into Diamond, or fighting to not drop into Plat. That alone makes these fights tend to be much more tense, even than some of the fights that are well within Diamond territory because everyone feel like they have something more significant to fight for.
@sethescope
@sethescope 10 ай бұрын
@@Real_MisterSir that's a good point! and tbh it was a humbling experience and reminded me low-mid plat is right for me right now 😅 I'm just hoping to get to plat 3, I'm not ready for the pressure of diamond
@cooltwittertag
@cooltwittertag 9 ай бұрын
people generally think teammates in higher ranks are worse because they themsleves cant carry/do well in higher ranked lobbies so they lose more and more and blame it on their teammates
@TheNoobaDooba
@TheNoobaDooba 9 ай бұрын
The terrible performance on Kiriko makes me believe even further that this Mercy is boosted by just damage boost botting their duo
@Smellyndo
@Smellyndo 7 ай бұрын
tbh i love these videos where the person who submit their gameplay ends up being the 'villain' I was here cheering for that sym the whole time lol
@shioramenrabbit
@shioramenrabbit 10 ай бұрын
So everyone saying the DPS was the duo; unless they said so specifically I'm actually 100% positive it was the 2nd support. The reason why I think this is the Mercy/Kiri wasn't healing that other DPS, and neither was the Ana. Which makes me think, that the 2nd DPS started whinging after that first death, and Mercy and Ana both made a cabal to ignore them and be petty. Now it can happen with non-duo'd supports if a DPS is consistently toxic that they'll both get on the same page about doing this, but it happened so early, I'm pretty sure this is a support duo.
@HmongHeroo
@HmongHeroo 10 ай бұрын
Would make sense seeing them break their keyboards together in near final round
@karamei
@karamei 10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the Ana was the duo based on the intro, yeah
@shioramenrabbit
@shioramenrabbit 10 ай бұрын
@zeldacereza Err. One of the most consistent ways to boost unless you're exclusively a mercy player is 2nd support in this economy. And like I said, the submitter wasn't healing him but neither was the 2nd support. That doesn't just happen by accident
@shioramenrabbit
@shioramenrabbit 10 ай бұрын
@willowsnake2 Yes. But so was the 2nd support, is my point. That guy *never* got healed so unless he was a phenomenal twat in chat enough to piss off two strangers it's more likely the supports were communicating. Also listen to the intro
@InceyWincey
@InceyWincey 10 ай бұрын
I do think it’s good generally to keep everybody at full HP, although not be so obsessive about it that you healbot. The number of times when playing DPS or Tank that I have lived with only a handful of HP has convinced me that those missing 1-2 hit points really do matter.
@beakerb43
@beakerb43 10 ай бұрын
Suggested Changes: Let us see the scoreboard in replays Let us see the chat logs from the game. three different colors, Match Team1 and Team2
@frederickliebhaber3292
@frederickliebhaber3292 10 ай бұрын
The can’t see chat isn’t something emonng is in charge of chat logs just arnt saved in replays even if u screen record on like a ps5 it only shows when u send the message not the text box it’s self.
@ObsidianQuasar
@ObsidianQuasar 10 ай бұрын
You’d have to screen capture it and upload to KZbin or something. Replay codes to watch in game don’t have text chat which is what streamers usually use to review games. Scoreboard however, could be screenshot attached to submission tho. A lot of them do now.
@azseal2669
@azseal2669 10 ай бұрын
They're good changes... for Blizzard to make. Emongg can't do this seeing as it's not an available feature from replays.
@bigfudge2031
@bigfudge2031 10 ай бұрын
@@azseal2669 Blizzard will never put chat in the replay viewer because of the potential negative implications.
@mrblooper1994
@mrblooper1994 10 ай бұрын
Is this jay3's second account?
@vulpixie__
@vulpixie__ 10 ай бұрын
only 2:30 in & i can already tell that this is much higher than silver bc the enemy sigma is using their shield to block heals
@Jonathan-il8qu
@Jonathan-il8qu Ай бұрын
Some sigmas in high silver/low gold do that sometimes - only sometimes though!
@AweImDest
@AweImDest 10 ай бұрын
Watching that Kiri gameplay was so painful 😭
@armando5994
@armando5994 8 ай бұрын
literally, like how do you healbot and still not heal literally anyone ..
@cristalmau
@cristalmau 10 ай бұрын
Typical mercy main "you tell me I'm not healing you so I start playing like you don't exist", the problem is that with that atrocious aim kiriko was indeed not healing enough.
@Mavuika_Gyaru
@Mavuika_Gyaru 10 ай бұрын
Maybe don't piss off the healer. Mercy mains have low mentals, they will throw a game at any inconvenience
@WinstonOfDojima
@WinstonOfDojima 10 ай бұрын
@@Mavuika_GyaruThat’s wrong on so many levels. You should NEVER cater to someone just because they have low self esteem. I shouldn’t have to walk on eggshells because someone will throw my game if I say something they don’t like.
@alexmaganda5827
@alexmaganda5827 10 ай бұрын
@@WinstonOfDojima theres more then often also very delusional players who blame the support when their beam is not on them for 5 seconds
@vaanirra6283
@vaanirra6283 10 ай бұрын
not just mercy main but any role. If you ever mention slightly that the tank is not going front, they will throw. Same with dps.
@Nymeriia_
@Nymeriia_ 23 күн бұрын
@@Mavuika_Gyarumaybe mercy mains should stop being soft and expecting everyone to kiss the ground they walk on just bc they played mercy 💀 most entitled cringy hero main in all of OW
@ZyrusEclipse
@ZyrusEclipse 10 ай бұрын
I love mercy players who only help their duo Ya this dude only helped their duo 80% of the healing was hanzo,Ashe, whatever 20% tank. Like you barely healed the sym,mei,reaper dude no way in hell should you be in diamond.
@JubeJube33
@JubeJube33 10 ай бұрын
Literally they’re the most boosted person I’ve ever seen
@ZyrusEclipse
@ZyrusEclipse 10 ай бұрын
@zeldacereza guess homie thought he could ego vod but made himself look dumb as hell. Half of his teams deaths 100% could have been prevented if his sorry ass would have healed others and not a dumb duo.
@karamei
@karamei 10 ай бұрын
Except the duo was the Ana
@karamei
@karamei 10 ай бұрын
@zeldacereza The intro
@fuhjrvr7474
@fuhjrvr7474 9 ай бұрын
i usually get into games where the support isn’t healing me when i’m literally next to them standing still spamming heals . i usually have a duo and we both play dps so we always get that one healer who just pockets their friend
@eerreerr497
@eerreerr497 10 ай бұрын
That mercy needs the witch outfit asap lmao
@ToxiePoxie
@ToxiePoxie 10 ай бұрын
without any hate or targeting or anything, i dont believe this is diamond, i also dont believe how could both supports ignore a JR/Sym/Bastion just like that all game long, it could actually be diamond and matchmaking sucks, but if this is diamond this means everyone should get deranked in this match, they dont deserve diamond, so im with but at the same time against the support players, like they got a point, this aint supposed to be diamond its supposed to be lower, but still you didnt heal good enough, love yall
@-.vamp.
@-.vamp. 10 ай бұрын
Enemy sig was probably best player in the game. At the beginning he put his shield behind their tank in front of ana and kiri to block heals
@zacharylevesque922
@zacharylevesque922 10 ай бұрын
That poor guy barely got a smidgen of healing
@KlebinDaBoca
@KlebinDaBoca 9 ай бұрын
This Mercy is the kind of player that we send invites to be friends with just so we can perma avoid them.
@theprometheu5
@theprometheu5 10 ай бұрын
The problem with mercy isn’t the floor value u get usually, but this game, you did your Sym/Cas/Bastion dirty Moriko. This 0-IQ gameplay was painful to watch 😢
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 10 ай бұрын
This is almost every support under mid masters not healing sym. They are morons.
@emerald_s9023
@emerald_s9023 10 ай бұрын
I feel like she was half asleep while she played mercy.
@isassssss
@isassssss 10 ай бұрын
other than the hanzo/ashe, she seems to be also healing the tank way more than the other dps at least which is kind of crazy. I mean it’s not illegal for a mercy to heal a tank, but when a tank is close to full hp and your crit dps is standing right by you it’s best to heal them right?? but nah heal the tank that’s already being healed by the ana 😭 thats why I feel like not healing the cass/sym was on purpose honestly
@captainhalo5024
@captainhalo5024 10 ай бұрын
their reaction time seems really slow for a diamond player
@kyleratia46
@kyleratia46 10 ай бұрын
This person has the audacity to send the clip because in this game Overwatch multiple players can have the same username otherwise tomorrow her account will no longer exist
@EclipseStorm923
@EclipseStorm923 10 ай бұрын
He gives so many tips and guidance in these that he should try it while a player is playing live so they can take their advice head on
@whatofit9841
@whatofit9841 10 ай бұрын
That was a pocket and a half lmfao, in all seriousness though I think I would personally be infuriated by this, I've had it happen to me throughout an ENTIRE match and there was no reason behind it. Was with the team, tried my my best with positioning, would be standing right next to the supports...nothing. Mind you being a support main, I do cut some slack because I understand there are moments it can't be done, positioning might just be bad, they're pushing too hard, over extending, ect but this, this is ridiculous not only that but it staggers your team, almost every fight its straight to a 4v5 because they weren't healing when they could have. Not only that but as Emongg said too at some point during the video, missing the opportunities to boost specific teammates like a bastion, are you kidding me.....dude. If its a qp I'd expect it I guess but its also a comp game.....I can't lmao
@paris9887
@paris9887 10 ай бұрын
This is why I actually like to play solo more than duo, no real preferences for who to pocket.
@flareb99
@flareb99 10 ай бұрын
They were deliberately not helping the other dps. While the reactons were slow, they definitely were aware of everyone but just didn't prioritize the sym. Also the duo was definitely the other support
@jasonvallecillo2085
@jasonvallecillo2085 10 ай бұрын
nah, it has to be the pocketed player. has to be
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 10 ай бұрын
what a shock sym never got healed
@-.vamp.
@-.vamp. 10 ай бұрын
Diamond in all 3 roles tank main and i never play mercy (pc and console) and even i know dont play her when your dps is hanzo sym. So many things to cleanse and deny on kiri and they swap to the worst pick possible in that situation. Players like this claiming to be diamond getting hard boosted are what gives console players a bad name. No wonder they think its similar to silver bc thats where theyre boosted from and they havent learned a thing since
@Neoleplubo
@Neoleplubo 10 ай бұрын
Damage boosted Sym can actually go insanely crazy
@redstoneactive6589
@redstoneactive6589 10 ай бұрын
Depending on the game, it sure feels like the lower ranks are getting harder. I think it's the fact that I have recently been comeing across plat players in matches that the game thinks are silver
@TrueCryos
@TrueCryos 10 ай бұрын
ALRIGHT SO! - Emongg
@KujinoKen
@KujinoKen 10 ай бұрын
8:34 had me dying that Bastion got vaporized 😭
@TappadaraWest
@TappadaraWest 10 ай бұрын
Wow, when I play healer I try to make sure all of my team gets equal healing . I know it's sometimes hard but damn Mercy help that other dps😡
@tiamelancholyjeoncockity
@tiamelancholyjeoncockity 10 ай бұрын
That poor neglected dps ☠️💀 JUST HEAL THEM ALREADY
@KhotaMaz
@KhotaMaz 9 ай бұрын
If I had this Mercy on my team it'd be an instant avoid teammate I promise you
@RaidenKunii
@RaidenKunii 10 ай бұрын
As a Mercy player every once in a while, I hate it when people assume that Mercy will stick on you 24/7. I had a Pharah literally yell at me because I let go to help my support duo help heal the team (plus he was just not hitting shots anyways so I left). Mercy isn’t just a pocket, she’s best played when you actually help heal around on EVERYONE.
@svgarpaws
@svgarpaws 10 ай бұрын
Communicate that to your Pharah then. Don't expect them to just keep track of you at all times.
@Insantgd
@Insantgd 9 ай бұрын
the fact that she was dmg boosting hanzo was sad bc he already one or two shoots and mercy doesn’t change that except for storm arrow
@asimplewizard
@asimplewizard 10 ай бұрын
It feels that way, but i blame the 50/50 matchmaking. It always feels like you're in the same rank because you get awful games at the same frequency. I had a similar feeling, where gold, plat, and diamond games *felt* similar, but when I made an alt account to learn different characters, i saw the difference clearly.
@orellaminx3530
@orellaminx3530 9 ай бұрын
This is a perfect example of why no one likes playing with a Mercy one-trick, because 90% of the time they're too focused on babysitting whichever hero can do the highest burst damage over who is better with sustained damage.
@yomama2376
@yomama2376 10 ай бұрын
The winged victory skin is never a good sign tbh lol
@henrychavez9526
@henrychavez9526 10 ай бұрын
Honestly the tank could have switched to a more prominent character that can mitigate damage which was why I think they didn't want to peak as much to heal sym since she was always in the line of sight of their hitscan
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 10 ай бұрын
they just suck and could have pocketed sym and zarya all game.
@forty4496
@forty4496 10 ай бұрын
hanzo dmg boosted gave me anxiety
@bartonstrauss6519
@bartonstrauss6519 10 ай бұрын
i'd say it's a hard takeaway - in silver you could probably get away not healing so much and leave more of the healing to your other support for ult economy (which is great, ez ana nano's), however, being diamond myself, people RARELY miss their shots so I always find it imperative to at least keep people above 3/4 health before damage boosting anything. Yes mercy doesn't have the best healing in the game but she still can heal fairly well compared to what dps and tanks can do and people don't seem to realize that. Blue beam is a luxury not a priority. That said I do feel this mercy did seem to ignore the other dps on purpose (probably because of the first complaint) but it's competitive and decisions like that does accost the team a victory. I do hope they learn from this and develop some awareness. Mercy players have that unique advantage of being spatially aware as they don't need to aim to heal, so it's easier to keep tabs on who needs healing and where the enemies are.
@catdaddie
@catdaddie 10 ай бұрын
ana was their duo, sym/bastion/cas made a shitty comment at some point in the very beginning (ex: support diff ggs), duo offended and intentionally did not heal him unless absolutely necessary for the rest of the game. LITERALLY the most miserable people to play OW with like get over it just play the game boooo youre boring!!!!!! (the supports being the worst btw not the dps)
@kurishima4312
@kurishima4312 8 ай бұрын
I used to be a healbot Mercy, the moment of awakening was when I’ve met a really talkative group, they shared so much info on enemies that are half down or less. Sheer amount of “sup 1hp”, “tank 1hp” etc just opened my mind on a fact that if I were boosting them right in this moment - there won’t be this annoying 1hp, enemies would be dead already. Now I don’t chase healing numbers, I chase dmg boost numbers and trying to keep my death count as low as possible.
@The64332
@The64332 10 ай бұрын
I love the Boston accent😂
@valkiri_
@valkiri_ 10 ай бұрын
a lot of your commentary i agree w, but around the 10:30 mark, i v much disagree... why heal a teammate for a few hp who is well out of the fight when you can assist teammates actively engaged? you can use cues like sound and sight to see if an enemy is flanking from the left side of pt to assess if you need to help that cassidy
@333Abs
@333Abs 10 ай бұрын
You know this person is over rated cause someone complained about not enough healing and they thought mercy was a better healer than kiriko
@sjlbean
@sjlbean 6 ай бұрын
The Mercy on my team when I'm about to rank up:
@ZoDlAc05
@ZoDlAc05 10 ай бұрын
normalise mercy mains with no friends then the whole team getting that good healing bro
@MCbeccy89
@MCbeccy89 10 ай бұрын
No way this is diamond. This mercy's awareness is really clunky. It just feels weird? Like so many times her teammates walk past her and get low hp. But she just ignores them??? Usually they hide and she eventually gets to them. But her reaction time is so incredibly slow. Not to mention pocketing only this hanzo for some weird reason when symmetra, bastion, and junkrat has incredible damage output??? The flight patterns were also kind of weird and so much afking and not looking around properly. I dunno, usually when I see mercy. It's constant spinning and looking around to keep eyes fully on the field. Not just tunnel visioning. It's so weird watching this gameplay truthfully.
@QueenDianaWifeOfLlry
@QueenDianaWifeOfLlry 10 ай бұрын
13:26 orisa poppee them like a balloon 😂 This mercy is the kind of support i hate to play with... really reminds me of my friend who only ever heals her bf
@user-vw9ip7tl8c
@user-vw9ip7tl8c 9 ай бұрын
キリコでもマーシーでも敵を全く見てないのが本当に面白い
@GanjaVibezz
@GanjaVibezz 9 ай бұрын
I go mei everytime i feel like im not being healed so i can understand the mei pick.
@drattyg8099
@drattyg8099 10 ай бұрын
Really bad habits of going into the air when the enemy have hitscan, especially in valk
@lavjumayao9103
@lavjumayao9103 10 ай бұрын
My biggest issue with low ELO healers. Is they tether to one person, but don't look around while healing that tether. Like they need to be hitscanning their heal or something. Mercy should have the BEST awareness because she can tether and look EVERYWHERE while they still heal. VS healers like Illari and Ana
@bigfudge2031
@bigfudge2031 10 ай бұрын
This Mercy is boosted, no wonder they only pocket their duo player because they wouldn't be in diamond without them. Their decision-making, positioning and movement are poor for a diamond level player.
@timothyholliday5289
@timothyholliday5289 10 ай бұрын
I mained tank made it to m4 but couldn't climb because of low heals then switched to support & made it to Gm1
@samboissonneault2443
@samboissonneault2443 10 ай бұрын
This mercy plays exactly like a friend of mine.. He's high as balls having full blown conversations on the phone while he play and the only reason he got out of silver is because I boosted him. Let's not talk about the kiriko gameplay either, did absolutely nothing helpful. Don't expect lobbies like this in diamond
@eachfilly825
@eachfilly825 10 ай бұрын
You can tell the mercey is actually close to bronze geting carried by there dps partner who they pocketed for most of game thats why it felt like a silver game. One of these things is not like the other? do you know who?
@khaledm.1476
@khaledm.1476 10 ай бұрын
nah this ain't a bronze mercy, she actually uses cover and doesn't go for every stupid rez this is atleast silver/gold
@eachfilly825
@eachfilly825 10 ай бұрын
@@khaledm.1476 don't get me wrong there movement is good and they do use cover however so did plath how ever they were consistently not being healed along with the anna who were focused most of game and were ignored for the most part. A mid to high level player would not do that. As emongg has said so gracefully throughout the video.
@rogue728i
@rogue728i 6 ай бұрын
I refuse to believe i share an earth with these type of people
@kiko9740
@kiko9740 9 ай бұрын
Diamond is probably the most diverse rank in the game. It's what separates average players from good players. And so it's half full of plat players on a good day, and half filled with potential masters
@Bacchus325
@Bacchus325 10 ай бұрын
Lmao a Mercy player acting like they understand the game enough to say something as wild as silver being the same as diamond
@Tidus5005
@Tidus5005 10 ай бұрын
The second DPS was playing Mystery Heroes.
@FilGoodInc
@FilGoodInc 9 ай бұрын
"Diamond and Silver are the same" Spectates match while holding right click.
@user-iu5ib8bj6l
@user-iu5ib8bj6l 9 ай бұрын
seem like what a couple duo would do, a mercy and hanzo couple duo, while other teammate are not a priority
@MrZebanHai
@MrZebanHai 9 ай бұрын
I feel like through the ENTIRE video I was recognizing when players were about to take damage a full 1-1.5 seconds before the mercy/kiriko player. They just need to work on reaction speed (and maybe also awareness of what's happening in a team fight so you know what is about to happen before it happens).
@roland8357
@roland8357 10 ай бұрын
I yearrrrrn for another lucio vod
@erickmejia1643
@erickmejia1643 Ай бұрын
In mmos though generally you want to try to minimize how much healing you need to do...
@StarsetFlight
@StarsetFlight 7 ай бұрын
I've been in Silver. I've been in Diamond. They're the same.
@XxgameacexX
@XxgameacexX 9 ай бұрын
Serious Case of Mercy brain.
@SweetPotato3507
@SweetPotato3507 10 ай бұрын
I would submit a vod for review, but i’m fearful of being berated by the bronze players in the twitch/YT comments😭😂
@Apenn_73
@Apenn_73 10 ай бұрын
I don't like mercy or mercy players that much for that matter but in defense of the mercy nearly every time the sym died she was also standing in the middle of the open
@drattyg8099
@drattyg8099 10 ай бұрын
Yeah this player's not great but their team had some whack positioning and I think their ana was doing nothing but pumping heals into zarya. I definitely saw several moments where, while playing mercy in this situation, I would have expected ana to toss a shot or two at a target I'm not close to.
@AngelLovesTwice
@AngelLovesTwice 10 ай бұрын
and my bf ask me why i quit comp lol, mercy players like these are insane. damage boosting a hanzo over a sym is crazy
@lruddy8820
@lruddy8820 10 ай бұрын
sometimes i miss orisas pull
@Hyehowareyou
@Hyehowareyou 9 ай бұрын
every single bap: "why is my dps doing nothing?" has half the healing of every other healer in the game
@brandonnowonline6533
@brandonnowonline6533 9 ай бұрын
I’m guessing this person’s reaction time isn’t used to the faster paced gameplay that’s in diamond. Letting the second dps on his team die on loop. As your rank goes up the tempo of the game increases, this person is in a elo beyond their skill rating.
@Kendra002
@Kendra002 10 ай бұрын
as a mercy main on console who is hard stuck gold and always either duos or trios with people, the mercy is focusing way too much on the hanzo, both dmg boost and heals.
@majones117
@majones117 8 ай бұрын
I never understood why a lot of people who Duo que treat it like they are the only 2 people in the game and end up throwing. It's not just overwatch either.
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