Emotiva SE12 Subwoofer _(Z Reviews)_ Desktop 2.1 Champion

[@IWolfless]

First 30 seconds of this video, this man crawling on the floor, stroke his subwoofer, and says hello baby 😂 I love Zeos so much

[@justinkv02]

how to test subwoofer ohms--see this

[@TheSonicFan4]

What's the name of the Deadmau5 song at 15:33? Also, amazing review!

[@mladenbasic1]

Best explanation of the use of a high level input ever. The closet is acting as an additional horn loaded enclosure. Must sound great

[@Sporting1210]

I love the "no purpose except standing around " pair of chairs! Reminds me of my mother, who had at least one of these in every single room *nods*

[@Earth-Apple]

Which Deadhmau5 song was it?

[@imissmypeep2209]

Jumpin Jesus, man. Lol. Every time I watch your videos it makes me realize how much I don't know about audio equipment! I used to be into "budget" home theater many years ago and it seemed incredibly simple compared to what you play with. I would absolutely love to hear some of your favorite sound setups and headphones. Looks like the new house is a great fit for you. Congrats. Peace.

[@danowolf]

The BB2000 is just wraped up sitting in the closet? No gentle warm waves of cleaning any longer?

[@hifitommy]

Z---which are those speaker stands, Pangea or Monoprice?

[@millsjonah]

Are there any decent preamps with a remote control? So I can use the rca highpass method and still be able to use a remote for volume?

[@ZReviews]

Pure preamps with remote are rare. Mostly I recommend separate DAC's with remotes like the SU8 or Topping E30.

[@keithjohnson2863]

If I had to assemble a budget system I would consider an Emotiva stack: PT-100 preamp (it does have a remote), B1+ speakers, SE8 sub and A100 amp. If the DAC in the PT-100 is the same as the one in the TA-100 integrated amp then it is barely passable. I would add a Topping E30 as a DAC only. You could the use the E30 as a preamp in a pinch but using a dedicated preamp will result in a more dynamic sound. I'm using an E30 in a desktop system and the sound really popped when I added.a Topping L30 as a preamp to the system.

[@FPSOtis]

have you tried the adam t10s? it allows you to pass through rca or xlr signal with or without a crossover seems like a good option for a 2.1 setup but havent heard one

[@zak-of-all-trades9638]

Which RCA cables do you use?

[@exodusvelo]

How can I buy any of these Emotiva SUB in Europe???

[@Quetzalcoatl0]

2:20 Sub craw: You play a song that has 2 frequencies in it. You move the sub to the best location for those 2 frequencies and you lose the other ones. Human years are good for "yes I hear something" instead of "yep i hear exactly 32hz". So you might have a gigantic peak and you hear that peak and you tell yourself "THIS IS THE PLACE", but you have nulls everywhere. Sadly if you don't have equipment this is the only option. A calibrated mic and REW is kind of a must to find the best location for a sub and to align it to other subs if you have more than 1. Even if you have an SPL meter, those are no good under 32hz, so you can't find if lower HZs are good. With and SPL meter, you could play HZs like 30-35-40-45-50-55-60 ect ect. Write down each with it's corresponding DB and make a graph on paper. Repeat till you find the best location.

[@61percentodicarica]

you're making it sound like boring science, when it's suppose to be a fun hobby

[@Quetzalcoatl0]

@@61percentodicarica Sorry mate. One day you will hear flat bass from 15-120hz and you will see what I'm talking about. You can't just place the sub anywhere. Would you place your TV at the ceiling or on the floor ? Doesn't work right ? Bass is the same.

[@Leviathan431]

@@61percentodicarica That's the beauty of this hobby! It's all about how it makes you FEEL. So for those of us who find great satisfaction knowing that their setup is configured in the exact way that will make the most of our hardware and the acoustics of the room, no effort is too great. Some of us will go about that process with precise measuring devices and others do so entirely by ear (I prefer a middle ground personally). At the end of the day it doesn't matter the method, as long as it sounds good and you're satisfied. May I also add that if you wish to avoid science and math, then you might just be in the wrong hobby ;)

[@NaveedKhan-bs1sc]

Everyone knows the wife decides where the sub goes😂

[@halo1234dog]

Are those the monolith speaker stands?

[@landocal0]

Please do a review of the Rythmik L12.

[@braindamaged1700]

Glad to see you got out into the country. By putting it into the closet you basically made a band pass box no?

[@greymatterstome]

If you take one single thing from this review: Say no to Pearl Jam and yes to Frankie Goes to Hollywood.

[@fellowninja]

Wasn't this something that you had recommended the MiniDSP for as well? That's awesome that it's all on one.

[@aflack1976]

did you do any HT hookup with these im looking to buy maybe 2 for my ht setup. they will be powered by a denon 4500h. thank you

[@Ans12237]

I am really interested in the connectivity but the only other subs that come with HP-filter are studio subs (i.e. Adam T10s) that are usally considers worse value.

[@IkariWarrior1701]

Have you tried the KEF KF92?

[@joshmiller804]

Hey Z, what are your thoughts on the DT 770 Pro compared to other closed backs on the market right now?

[@wizard44]

Wardruna.. easily in my top 3 favorite artists. So cool to hear it in one of your videos!

[@gnawty4662]

Wait so I need an amp AND a receiver?

[@dgregory4178]

Hey Zeos, please review the Kali Audio IN8 monitors.

[@josexavierjr.5633]

Great review as usual! What are the dimensions of the room itself? My listening room looks similar (approx 13'x13'), but with a similar closet behind me. BTW, is that the toilet seat with the bidet feature???

[@oblio44]

Wow, this review was deep into the woods.

[@ZReviews]

Not sure if compliment or not.

[@oblio44]

@@ZReviews Me neither!

[@troyporter287]

Yes I had sub woofer years ago and ran amp to sub then used high level pass to tower speakers sounded excellent. They were Klipsh Epic CF -1 with 2 6.5 inch woofers and horn tweeter in between. Even though towers easily handled sub bass just cleaned up and made mid-base even tighter and better. Sub had 80 Hz crossover . I'd like to see Klipsh revisit the Epic series again especially with newer horn damping like on newer lines . I'm not familiar with how newer lines of speakers sound but would love to hear them

[@vannk73]

If you want to take advantage of the subwoofer's built-in high pass filter, then you should never use the speaker level inputs. For passive speakers: the signal goes via RCA from PC to Sub, RCA Out of Sub to Power Amp, and finally Power Amp to Speakers via speaker cable. Set your levels on each device and leave them. Control the overall level from your PC or DAC.

[@ffash995]

Can I do this with a Native Komplete Audio interface? TS to RCA from interface to sub, then RCA to RCA into Presonus Eris E44 Monitors?

[@vannk73]

@@ffash995 Yes, that seems reasonable to me.

[@chinmeysway]

not that easy at all to find rca outputs from a sub really though.

[@TheSteve0o]

How can I connect Mackie MR624 and a wilson sub 10 to an external sound card with a trs out?

[@TheSteve0o]

My solution is 2 trs y splitters, is there a better one?

[@nplenn00]

Don't know about the SE12, but I love my S8s. Yes, got 2 based on Zeos review back a ways...Run the RCAs out of each (L&R) to powered Dynaudio X14As. Great full range setup...

[@brydon10]

It's easier to blend the sub when you run the speakers full range and just crossover the sub where they roll-off naturally. That's pretty much how it's always been done for an "audiophile" setup. But for movies I can see the appeal.

[@ZReviews]

Depends on if the speakers struggle to make the low end at your desired volume. If you play quiet you can always just run like you described.

[@brydon10]

@@ZReviews True, you can definitely get more volume out of your speakers that way.

[@keithjohnson2863]

It depends on your speakers, sub and individual taste. I was not able to pair my Emotiva SE8 sub with my Emotiva B1+ speakers without using the high pass filter for the following reasons: (1) The crossover on the SE8 only goes down to 60Hz, the bass extension on B1+'s was low enough that it still overlapped with the sub even with the crossover at 60Hz, this caused vocals on some tracks to be pushed from the front of the soundstage to the middle depth wise; (2) The B1+'s are very good in the mids and the highs, above what their price point would suggest, however there is cabinet resonance in the bass extension frequencies, once it is noticed it can't be unheard. A high pass filter resolves these issues and the dynamics are improved because the speakers are relieved of expending the energy required for producing the lower frequencies, that energy can be devoted to the frequencies that are passed to it.

[@brydon10]

@@keithjohnson2863 Good solution.

[@chrishernandez2490]

@@keithjohnson2863 I love learning about all the little intricacies from owners of specific speakers/equipment. Thank you for your comment

[@matsudakodo]

The A500's aren't wide enough Zeos, try an equilateral triangle setup?

[@matsudakodo]

Also those woofer covers were shown to wreck the response, please do your ears a favor and remove them! Looking forward to the review.

[@Valla451]

Hey man! Will you do a swan M80w review? I think at the price they are they could be a brilliant reference point.

[@arthurwatts1680]

Great to see you finally coming out of the closet, Zeos ! ;)

[@Skwid-Lives]

If I want Bass management with this and an Emotiva TA 100 I’ll need another amp like the A 100 correct. It’s for a 2.1 turntable system.

[@Nabalazs]

Man I wish Emotive sold stuff in the EU. You sold me on passive radiators, and the selection is already pretty scarce here. Not that a 50 watt ported 8 inch isnt filling my room just right currently, buuuut I might be coming to the realization that I'm a bass head, and I want MOAR. But not like, 1500 watts 30 inch moar. Just, two more inches moar

[@chinmeysway]

ha did you end up getting moar!??

[@chriswelljack4910]

There is a low pass filter on rca out on the sub you dont see that often on most subs especially on that price point

[@claouslive]

I wish this came out before or at the same time as the S8 :(

[@SKY11211213]

sadly he was also moving for a longer time.

[@claouslive]

@@SKY11211213 No I mean I wish the sub released the same time as tjhe S8, I bought the S8 MONTHS ago

[@ZReviews]

I think they didn't understand how amazing it would be and started working on it after my review. I am sure they sold the S8 like Hotcakes

[@mattbrooking2146]

I didn’t understand a word you just said but still enjoyed ya Vid 🤣🤣👍🏼

[@RoaroftheTiger]

'Wardruna - UruR' - "Easy for You to Say !"

[@zak-of-all-trades9638]

Where did you get the tray for your keyboard/trackpad? (Also, which keyboard & trackpad?)

Hmm ok here is the thing, hope someone could help me with that; I'm planning to buy a pair of Edifier R1280DBs with a sub-out, and the reason for the sub-out is maybe I will need a dedicated sub-woofer later because 4 inch drivers obviously can't reproduce bass tones very well. The frequency response for those speakers goes like 51Hz-20KHz so a sub-woofer will be good at some point. But here is the real problem, I live in an apartment and have some neighbors obviously :D I was thinking to buy an SE8 to add my setup, with that HPF it should be great but as far as I understand there is no need to a sub-out for this sub-woofer, that's how the HPF works, RCA from the source which is my PC in this case, to the sub-woofer in and another rca to rca cable to the speaker from the output section with the HPF right? So I'm not gonna use the sub-out if I'm not wrong. But this way if I turn the sub-woofer off at nights (because apartment) there will be no signal to the speakers so...Any help?

[@Ab20222]

Awesome sub review but terrible listening room. At least you should consider placing the speakers on the opposite side of the entrance.

[@VGiena]

Awesome review for 2.1 livingroom set up.

[@The_Juan_Percent]

...seeing Zeos come out of the closet

[@tryfghghyuty]

lol was going to say somthin like this

[@dominicgreen115]

Hooking this up today, I have Topping Dx7pro, s3000 and a SE8 coming today. I am at a crossroads. I don't want to lose my balanced signal to my speakers if I hook it up the correct way rca to sub, sub to speakers with rca's it will be all RCA's... going to start with rca's to sub and xlr's to speakers. So excited to see how it sounds!

[@brammie0684]

Why are you getting a woofer for s3000's? Those things go to like 38hz.

[@ZReviews]

@@brammie0684 Because 38 will never be 20.

[@dominicgreen115]

@@ZReviews Fawk, it sounds so good, watched 5 episodes of Star Trek next gen just to hear the ships pass by. Ill be nerding out over the new set up for a while.

[@Beusta]

Can't wait for the A500 Review!

[@joseph519r]

It's awesome

[@redstang5150]

Z - that tiny TV in there is starting to cause me anxiety. When a 60" TV can be had for like $400 it's time to pick one up for that room and put that little one in a bathroom or something.

[@moriopl6176]

why buying this when u can go 2.1 edifiers for same?

[@marioaguirre175]

I guess no one else that is going to acknowledge the bouday just chilling in the day closet??? 😂

[@justinkv02]

how to test subwoofer ohms--see this

[@muskelnerd64]

I wish it was that easy to do the subcrawl with my XTZ Cinema 3x12 😂

[@filippiasec]

Dude, you were to review the sub, and you did a manual how to connect a sub.

[@ryanschipp8513]

Congrats! Only 20mins!!!

[@michaelwright1602]

I just bought this sub, the SE12 for $269 direct from Emotiva, along with the SVS SB1000 non pro version from SVS. The SVS is going back, as it was simply dead in my room, it was either in your face ugly or it was not there. There was a huge hole or null in the output, very disappointed, as this was the sub I wanted to keep, as I already own two of the SB3000 units. Yes, SVS fanboy here... Back to the Emotiva SE12, which was incredibly easy to set up. It was very easy to make dissapear in the room, and the sound is incredibly enveloping with my Zu Dirty Weekend speakers. You cannot hear either the sub or the speakers in regards to, "there is the sub" or "there is the left speaker", none of that in this room. Just one enveloping room of sound, which is very very cool. The sub is well built for what it is, and I experienced no resonance from the cabinet, and it does pressurize the room. I am using a vintage Sansui 2000 receiver in a 12 x 12 room. The Sansui has speaker A and B and Speaker A+B, so it was easy to wire the SE12 up. I listen to mainly Jazz, Blues and Classic Rock. I would imagine this will work good with movies too. I do not have a TV in the room to try any movies. The setup was incredibly easy, I have never experienced this with a sub. Set the low pass to 60 and adjust the volume, that was it. The speed is good, no boominess, and reasonably tight. I could see issues with it getting a bit muddy with say Techno or Rap, where the sound gets complicated and very deep, no clue if there is a limiter on her to prevent bottoming out. With the music I listen to, I have no concerns. For $269 and free shipping? C'mon man!

[@chinmeysway]

those genres you mention you listen to don’t really have sub bass type frequencies 40 hz and less

[@michaelwright1602]

@@chinmeysway I have this in the bedroom, where I may watch a movie now and then, so it fits nicely. Everything is revamped, amps, speakers, streaming, etc... Totally new show.

[@DarossTheGreat]

Zeos! Please review the 250 dollar Klipsch 12" sub!

[@ImBillionaire]

What's better than a sub? Two subbs!

[@EternalLife91]

That's an emotive subwoofer !

[@thetigergamer4644]

I beg you to try the PB-1000... not cheap at 500 $ but you'll be impressed as fuck, the port is tuned to 22 Hz so expect some bass in the 20s and below

[@piberman]

Buchardt A500 !!!!!

[@konkydonk4809]

Wardruna - UruR is the song

[@droski33]

Closet acts like a 4th order. Sub should be to your left in the corner if you’re on the couch IMO

[@mattgiunt]

That so weird-sub sounds better in closet. Base location is so odd

[@Elbrasch]

Panty and Stocking are best angels. Through Scanty and Kneesocks are best sisters!

[@jerryjohnson4625]

I have this subwoofer.also the $1299.00 RS 11. It doesn't have base management. Weird.

[@justinkv02]

how to test subwoofer ohms--see this

[@TheWesman45]

Oh shit boi, those A500s are pure hype. I can't wait for that review.

[@ZReviews]

I apparently need to download the new tuning on USB and try it out.. Oh boy. This is gonna make my life a living hell.

[@alexrandazzo195]

That's such a good deal

[@Nearest_Neighbor]

Got a bit emotional there on a random KZbin comment.

[@toooes]

not enough posts is the dealbreaker

[@GonardFatts]

ahh the old closet 4th order

[@TheMack]

First time I have seen a subwoofer come out of the closet. Ever.

[@charlesv4747]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@de2israel]

So basically you’re telling me that my passive hdp6s are gonna give me a hard time With a sub 😢

[@NaveedKhan-bs1sc]

The subwoofer came out of the closet😂.

[@grandmasteraj855]

Closet sized sub box

[@LITSClassicGaming]

10:55 speaker amp. -> sub. -> speakers

[@SometimeAngel]

One quibble: The Amazon Basics speaker wire (cheap speaker wire) is garbage, high resistance, and not even 16 gauge. The Amazon description is very misleading. Buy real copper wire instead.

[@gav4855]

As deep in the closet as that is, I'm REALLY surprised he's not getting one-note-bass...

[@AmazonasBiotop]

Yes and the time alignment with the woofers in the bookshelf is maybe little off? Is the distance difrence compensated somehow? In a adjustment on the sub or a DSP in the system?

[@ZReviews]

@@AmazonasBiotop It is just luck I suppose. Its almost too much sub for that room so the distance help the bass to develop.

[@exodusvelo]

@@AmazonasBiotop maybe these buchard have an intrinsic delay on them, as they have a ton of DSP inside them, maybe that makes them aling with a sub that is further away. makes sense.

[@DrPlut0]

@@ZReviews there will be a delay between the sub frequencies and anything above the low pass cutoff. This wont necesarily cause phasing issues because of the cutoff but it will for sure make anything with low end content sound laggy or weird

[@theejoeylee]

It's kinda like a 4th or 6th order car audio setup. The sub is the sealed or ported chamber, and the small closet is the larger "ported" chamber. Doorway is the port area. If it works..then it works!

[@ericdodds6479]

Review the toilet seat with Bidet

[@ZReviews]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p56bXoKLa9SobtU

[@CalCobra]

I guess your closet is acting like a waveguide.

[@ryanschipp8513]

Z, do everyone a favor...review a RSL Speedwoofer 10s...$399, 10", cast basket, 40lbs, 350 watts rms. Comes damn close to 20hz. The Emotiva will sound like a turd compared to it.

[@charlesferguson6678]

Your subwoofer needs better power cables.

[@hvskyline1368]

The E stands for Extra 12 inch😂😂😂

[@djhmax09]

speaker in a closet.......that's like the worst thing you can do acoustically but you do you. those buchardts are gorgeous tho!

[@ifeanyidede2106]

You talk too much. How does it sound? It's the real thing we wanna know.

[@MichelLinschoten]

Nah hard pass lol a monolith, hsu,rythmik would bury that half assed turd for the same spend dollar. No balanced a jinxy little switch for crossover points ?! "Sounds best using my closet as a horn" You're shitting me right ... 😂

[@Chuckienut]

I watched the entire review again. .......... He used the F-word 10 times! Very unprofessional IMO, even for a KZbin video. IMO he doesn't know the difference between boomy and tight bass. It might have sounded louder to him from the closet, but not defined. He had no idea that closing one or both of the two door might significantly improve the bass over stuffing it in the closet with associated rattles. I almost got dizzy watching his "fire hose" video panning. He could have used a tripod for large parts of his review. A video primer might educate him. A confusing mess of how to hook up the speakers and sub. The sub should have been in the main room. Very nice main speakers.

[@Chuckienut]

BTW: Is it really necessary to fill his review with repeated profanity? I wish my mother was still alive. She would was hhis mouth out with a Fels Naptha Laundry Soap Bar!

[@redstang5150]

If that bugs you (which is fine by the way, to each their own) then this isn't the channel for you.