Emperor's speech ordering the withdrawal | Man in the High Castle｜Season 4

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[@maozedong7536]

I like how he says “the situation has developed not necessarily to Japan’s advantage” like how he said it on radio for the Japanese surrender to the US after the bombs were dropped

[@davidthewhale7556]

You would say that Mao

[@JS-te2vj]

He didn't say that.

[@samrparker1224]

Mao Zedong I thought the same thing

[@CactusCacti2000]

wait a second im the meme version of you

[@dxfan18]

Absolutely, wonderfully done, and it kept with the times by having it on television instead of radio

[@Scottx125Productions]

"We did it"... 5 seconds later *Nazi's walk in* "It's free real estate".

[@DreapSep200]

Copying someone elses comment for internet points, gj you pathetic fk

[@vedantdesai1]

Aunchluss time

[@declangaming24]

​@@vedantdesai1with the Anschluss they used a referendum to gobble up Austria into Germany if they did a referendum in the Pacific states Germans could just take pacific states with no resistance

[@rageagaintstheNWO]

@@declangaming24 Yeah, bunch of black commies did not make the Japs retreat. Empire was already up to it's neck in poop because of China and a possible nuclear war with the Nazis.

[@Experiment632]

This is why Japan should've made the Pacific States into an independent commonwealth.

[@davidthewhale7556]

That “this is history line” is great, my grandad said the same when the fall of the Berlin Wall happened

[@stephenwood6663]

My mother said something very similar the day of the World Trade Centre attacks.

[@isuru717]

@@stephenwood6663 what even?

[@jrittenhouse]

My mom sat me down like that during the Cuban missile crisis and said exactly the same thing.

[@MakisHMMY]

When Constantinople was sacked by the latins , my grandpa told me the same thing in Greek

[@Emily-5124]

When I ask the teacher why we need to learn about the Roman Empire on a history lesson, My teacher said the same thing: "ThIs Is hIsToRy"

[@izayaorihara7059]

Smith be like: free real estate?

[@bradenanderson6989]

I always thought it was weird that the Japanese gave up all that land at once. You’d think they would have tried creating a more autonomous protectorate or multiple protectorates. They should at least have held on to Alaska. Very few people to fight back, and lots if oil for the war in China. Though maybe that oil wasn’t discovered.

[@izayaorihara7059]

Braden Anderson Yea, I just doesn't seam logical. But maybe they know something we don't.

[@jonothandoeser]

@@bradenanderson6989 They were being squeezed by the escalating war with China. Their troops were needed elsewhere, closer to home.

[@aussiegod4269]

@@bradenanderson6989 The Japanese would have levelled the West Coast with nukes before giving it up. Again completely unrealistic

[@bluechair9172]

@@aussiegod4269 From what I know Japan barely have any nukes by this point in time. They would rather save it to either deter Germany or nuke their current greatest enemy, China.

[@twojacksandanace3847]

Funny how he says "It has developed not necessarily to Japans advantage". In 1945 in RL he used those same words when describing the end of the war.

[@yonirais4699]

the best thing about this series for me is to see the alternate history and politics of this world. and seeing the characters react to the rearrangement of nations and events of global effect in their timeline

[@lasqueiralasco1523]

same

[@Rahul_Saldanha]

I love the end. The symbolism of the setting sun with respect to the decline of the Japanese

[@theasianboy315]

Not to mention that Japan's symbol is the rising sun. But it should portrayed as sunset in Sunset District in San Francisco

[@sevenfourtwo4105]

Yea was just about to mention it. Very nice detail

[@Gillan1220]

Wow, took me time to notice that.

[@_Fulgur_]

The dusk of the rising sun

[@jaeha-min3283]

The translator of the Emperor for the Pacific states sounds like Kotomichi (the former aide of Trade Minister Tagomi)

[@Offical_grimes.]

"One country again" JOHN: "Soon"

[@g.r.senterprisevenatorclas7314]

Free real estate

[@Afroman29]

Never. The BCR and American Resistance would never agree to rule by Nazi sympathizers like John Smith.

[@Arklay_98]

I mean I would unify the country then announce the restoration of the United States by raising the stars and stripes.

[@g.r.senterprisevenatorclas7314]

@@Arklay_98 Keep in mind from what I remember the US surrendered in about 1946 or 1948 one of the two. African Americans especially from the BCR even if you did try to unify the country would not exactly be so enthusiastic about joining it.

[@matthew8153]

@@g.r.senterprisevenatorclas7314 Smith thought of that. His plan was to exterminate them just as the Reich had when it conquered North America. Then he was going to bring back the old country (with him still in a dictatorial role until his passing).

[@willfeus5647]

Top 10 Saddest Anime Defeats

[@Cjnw]

Normie

[@sauceyeti4381]

**crying**

[@leomarsubala115]

When Echidna As a Fuhrer. then Raiden Shogun is the Emperor.

[@silencia08]

Our men are running from the battlefield! Shamefur Dispray!

[@thenorthstarsamurai]

But it is the order of the emperor so not really

[@Paolo_A]

Total War

[@2UNIEK]

Such a half-assed season.

[@article1372]

a bunch of washed up commie fucks taking over. fuck off writers

[@telescopicS627]

Not to mention it's completely out of step with the novel. The show writers couldn't resist the urge to dumb it down and go with "Nazis bad", a common theme which has been done a million times over. The novel ends with a far more complex and engaging theme: the ambivalence of good and evil. In the book, you essentially read a story about people who read a story about you, and realize that we shouldn't be so quick to pat ourselves on the back because we aren't that different from the Nazis. We are the same species with the same impulses, which are mirrored in both universes. So in the end of the novel (SPOILER!), when they meet the man in the high castle, they find high ranking Nazi officers in the living room listening to banned jazz music.

[@miguelpalomares3441]

@@article1372 "fascism bad" "fuck off commie bastard!!!!!! how dare u say that!!!"

[@lawsharland7278]

You know its alternate history when the Imperial Japnese empire willingly withdraws from territory

[@ArmyK9]

Commander of British Forces in Singapore, General Arthur Perceival, signed the surrender papers with Japanese Imperial Army, General Tomoyuki Yamashita present at the Ford factory in Singapore. Today, I live near the former Ford Factory in Singapore at Bukit Timah, which is now a war museum. My great-grandparents were executed by Japanese soldiers but mine grandfather survived and lived through the occupation, a different time and different place. He used to tell us stories of what happened. This TV series is surreal.

[@tenvelli]

2:28 Smith just looks badass in that scene lol

[@GustavoRodriguez-qr5po]

Alternative Mongolia: ahhh see stretching an empire isn’t so easy now is it?

[@masonwong8007]

The Japanese tried to play a Wide empire as a Tall empire.

[@jamesricker3997]

Japan's forces were stretched thin and they had more pressing matters closer to home.

[@rathernot6587]

You mean China? Lmao. If Japan could have conquered the US they probably could have captured China easily decades before this.

[@casecao8412]

@@rathernot6587 Its one thing to conquer a nation, its another to hold on to it.

[@Ambtran2023]

@@rathernot6587 China is waaaay closer to Japan than The West Coast of The US. It makes more sense for Japan to focus on China instead of devoting precious resources to a conflict far from Japanese shores

[@lettuceman9439]

At this Point Russia is almost Unified,A Chinese State is born out South China and Japan has lose Control of India while South East Asia they are Systematically Killing all the Collaborators and Gorverners of Thier Homeland.

[@MorokLeviathan]

@@rathernot6587 That is quite an underestimation of China. Japan attacked the Allies and conquered their colonies because they needed the resources for their war with China. The Japanese in our own timeline had to fight numerous guerilla forces even in their occupied territories, that would likely still have continued even if the actual Chinese forces were defeated.

[@Gillan1220]

This speech is an analogy to America’s withdrawal from the Vietnam War.

[@serg407]

Gillan Baclayon I don’t think so, I think it’s more about the Soviet withdrawal of Afghanistan. It destroyed the perception of an invincible soviet army, and the soviet state which made people to question openly and demand reforms and freedom, it divided the politicians and military between the old guard and the new it embodied occupied countries to challenge the Soviet Union which would lead to the fall of Berlin Wall and colapse of the eastern soviet bloc. The war in Afghanistan put a strain in an already struggling soviet economy which would lead to the reforms that would lead to the collapse of the Soviet Union itself

[@huuduyvu9714]

terry waller oh, really? You know nothing about the 1973 Paris Peace Accords. While America was withdrawing from Vietnam, Democratic Republic of Vietnam via Provisional Revolutionary Government of Republic of South Vietnam still remain military appearance in Vietnamese territories under the 17th parallel-which called Liberation Army of South Vietnam as against the Republic of Vietnam and its Armed Forces. It’s Vietnamese soil after all, no matter the regime, sooner or later, it must be reunited. Like United States vs Confederate Stated, it was never an invasion when it’s reunification. But unlike the United States, it was never a civil war since America itself had intervened deeply and directly in for decades, used French-puppet, locals-governed and renamed it as “Republic of Vietnam” with same purpose of previous European colonial power.

[@neki0playz12]

@@huuduyvu9714 fucking patriot

[@ahmose70]

Not really. Japan is withdrawing from the JPS to concentrate its combat power in Asia where China has pushed them partially out of Korea. This put Japan itself in a strategically poor position. In Vietnam the United States homeland was never threatened rather we lost the will to continue a fight which we never fully committed to and seemed to have no real plan for final victory.

[@bluechair9172]

The Soeech itself is a modified, shortened version of Hirohito's actual speech when he decalred Japan's surrender.

[@macdee6040]

Such a perfect timing when he turned on the TV that the emperor started his speech...

[@Valkires1]

I hate how people are like "what's happening?" As the TV speech is LITERALLY saying what's happening. They should start writing a line: "STFU and listen".

[@FalconRS]

In fact, Japanese were prepared to rather create semi-independent puppet states (like Soviets in Central Europe) instead of iron fist occupation and colonization. China was bad experience and drain of resources enough and Emperor was angry since his generals promised it would end in weeks or months. India would have probably been completely independent, after Subhas Chandra Bose signed some favourable trade and military treaties.

[@FalconRS]

@SleekHairedChocolate The most important power change would be domination of the Navy over Army: decisive victory in Pacific, invasion of Australia and California by naval forces would give Yamamoto infinitely more political power, possibly replacing Tojo as Prime Minister. Army had already damaged influence due to failed skirmishes with Red Army and prolonged attrition war in China. Imperial Court/Emperor would likely ally more closely with Navy to eliminate Army radicals (responsible for worst atrocities).

[@Pantsinabucket]

@SleekHairedChocolate considering what happened to pilots who were downed in Japanese territory at the hands of civilians, its safe to say the whole nation was at fault. A nation blinded with nationalism and a military holding a death grip over the government and people, but nonetheless almost all committed wrongs and were complicit.

[@aoki6332]

@SleekHairedChocolate yet the army was the government there no misassociation here and like all autocratic and centralized state the people had no power and most did not really care the same whit Germany the population only during against them when the defeat was clear same as during vietnam at first almost everyone was in board until the coffins started to come back

[@stoggafllik]

@SleekHairedChocolate stop pulling shit from your mums pussy

[@swaminathanbalakrishnan1399]

@@Pantsinabucket In almost every country, the civilians HATE enemy pilots who bomb them. They only see the planes bombing the homes of their friends and neighbours. In most cases, in any country, the pilots are safe if they are captured by the enemy military, but if they fall into the hands of enemy civilians... well...

[@ReaverLordTonus]

The problem with Hirohito's decision is that a number of Japanese citizens lived in the JPS, he could not expect them all to uproot their lives especially those decendant from people who fought to take it. In our history, Hirohito was concerned for the safety of his people when the US occupied Japan and expressed a desire not to see them punished for his decisions as their leader. What he should have proposed was a transition, similar to what the British did for Hong Kong, initially grant the JPS autonomy to hold elections, the BCR can even run as a political party if they choose to. This would be on the condition that any citizens who wish to leave are given safe conduct to do so and those who wish to stay are not punished. This would be beneficial in the long run with the JPS perhaps being willing to stay out of any conflict against Japan in the future seeing as how they would have to contend with the Reich next door.

[@mosesracal6758]

The rebellion of the African Americans is just way too OP for this timeline. Japan in this timeline wants to get out but they cant afford to recognize the rebellion. At the same time, the more time they waste in the JPS, the Nazis get stronger while weakening Japan.

[@Jose.AFT.Saddul]

It’s similar to what happened in the Russian Far east. When the Russian empire fell into civil war Japan quickly took control of the Russian pacific regions and even settled a lot of Japanese citizens there. But they did eventually return the land back to the communist in 1922 despite Japan’s deep dislike for communism at the time. They just didn’t want a war with the Russians. I assume the same thing could happen with the BCR.

[@denzelpardillo1181]

Plot twist: after they left, the US gave them 2 parting gifts.

[@denzelpardillo1181]

@John Ishmael well, since the japanese are leaving the former US, then i can think that they'd be reborn after the death of Himmler and the withdrawal of the japanese occupiers so, the United States of America would again exist.

[@denzelpardillo1181]

And if i remember correctly, the American reich is disbanding from the Nazi reich.

[@niccolopaganini4268]

@@denzelpardillo1181 Mate after 20 years of everyday propaganda and brainwashing USA would have no place in that world. Also American Reich disbanding from the Reich in general would mean there'd be just 2 Reichs ruled by 2 different Führers, like Western and Easten Roman Empires for example

[@thomasvleminckx]

If the liberated US, as you are implying, were to nuke Japan, the US's freedom would be short-lived, as the country is completely destroyed. Both the Third Reich and the Empire of Japan are nuclear superpowers.

[@heinzjohann4610]

@@thomasvleminckx American Reich would still have nuclear from both side

[@TheTerranscout]

The extent of the conquest was always my biggest issue with this show. Germany wouldn't have been able to conquer half the US, and Japan certainly didnt have the resources to subdue the west coast.

[@kingcobra5885]

Germany did not actually conquer half the US. We know that the Nazis succesfully landed on the east coast and dropped an atomic bomb on Washington D.C., killing most of the nations high command in one blow. The United States surrenderd after that, they did not put up much of a fight in this timeline since they had no allies, the US never recovered from the great depression and their entire pacific fleet had been taken out at pearl harbor. Also, you know.. the Nazis had atom bombs, whats holding the line worth if all your defending is gonna be reduced to rubble anyways. A much bigger problem in my eyes, is that they just straight up annexed half the US instead of making multiple smaller sattelite states out of it.

[@TheTerranscout]

@@kingcobra5885 if I remember right, the timely deviates from the main timeline majorly in late 1942, early 1943, the believed point that Germany would have had the bomb if they hadn't stopped development. By that point Germany was past its expansion high point and was being pushed back, especially on the eastern front, and secondarily in Africa and Sicily. If they had bomb, the most logical place for them to use it first would have been Russia, and since the commies probably wouldn't have surrendered after the first one, it would have taken 2, 3, maybe even 4 since the front was so large, just to stop the Red army from attacking, much less complete defeat. At that point Hitler would have run into the same issue that the US did in 1945 in that he would have run out of bombs for the time being. But let's ignore all of the European theater issues for a second and address the biggest issue with even a German invasion of just the northeast coast. germany had no surface fleet to speak of, and no staging area to launch an invasion of the continent from. Finally, as soon as Germany used the first bomb in Russia, the US would have been less concerned about secrecy of its own project and more concerned with speed and would have written a blank check to get the project done, and I'd wager that it would have been done before Germany could beat Russia and Britain in Europe, and build a navy that would have been able to challenge that of America and Britain on the surface in the Atlantic, especially on the American side of it. So my point of contention is that not America wouldn't have surrendered after the east coast was taken, and Washington was bombed, im saying that 1 or both of those things wouldnt have happened.

[@TheTerranscout]

@stephenblair67 the French surrendered in summer 1940, so any ships that would fallen into German hands that were subsequently attacked and destroyed by the allies or captured by them to prevent that would have already been in German possession and thus couldn't be counted as gains. As for Britain, one must factor in that even if the home islands surrendered, how many of the ships, especially ones already out on a mission, would have sailed to Iceland and then to Canada or the US and carried on the fight? The British navy has proud tradition that they wouldnt so easily abandon. Its also very believable that an british ports, support infrastructure, and raw materials for ship building would be destroyed that they couldn't be used by Germany. Finally, even the ships that they would have gotten would have only been safe for use on the european half of the Atlantic because they would have no safe harbor on the American half of the Atlantic refuel and make repairs at. Reasonably it would take germany 5 years to build a surface fleet from which they could make an invasion for the reason previously stated plus 2 more. 1. By the end of that 5 year period the US would have the bomb, and possibly several of them. 2. The US would have achieved victory over Japan and freed up all of the fleets, divisions, and resources that were being used over there for defense of the east coast

[@TheSunderingSea]

@@angelofdeath1896 But they didn't win in China, Japan is still fighting there during the shows events in the 1960's and its the real reason for Japan retreating from the US.

[@migalin6247]

@stephenblair67 This is not the same USA as in our timeline this one is much weaker and economic instable

[@MrSwj2009]

The whole premise of the Axis powers winning ww2 is brilliant. The ultimate what if scifi story. Kudos to Phillip K Dick for imagining this, and to the markers of this TV Series to stay true to his vision. And how about that eerily haunting version of Edelweiss as the theme song.

[@xr6lad]

Hardly the first. Indeed definitely not the first. Fatherland is a mini series in which the Reich won in Europe; tv series SS-GB is about occupied Britain etc etc.

[@MrSwj2009]

@@xr6lad The Man in the High Castle was written in 1962. I think that predates Fatherland TV series by, what ... 50 years?

[@Commander23c]

Except this is not a faithful adaptation of the novel..BCR never existed and John Smith didn't die in the novel.

[@votesus9819]

Im pretty sure more people imagined it before

[@photlam9769]

This is nothing like the book

[@UchronianKing]

The BCR should have brokered a deal: withdrawal of Japanese military forces from the Western States AND guaranteed autonomous protectorate in return for continued oil supplies to Japan. It's not exactly a Second American Revolution because they have an ambitiously hostile neighbour on the doorstep in the form of the Third Reich, which has vast numbers of troops and resources - in comparison to a Great Britain having to fight, support, and supply an overseas campaign against the US Congress during the late 18th Century. Even then, despite a distance crossing thousands of nautical miles, British redcoats inflicted some terrible defeats upon the Americans, not forgetting the latter's cause required help from the French navy and some land forces. But, whoever is leading the Reich in North America, the BCR are at a serious disadvantage no matter how noble their cause, nor how bravely they fight, due to limited manpower, serious lack of weapons and ammo, and shortage of food and infrastructure. With Japan's absence, this scenario of the Reich swooping down like an eagle with talons outstretched to claim more territory is very likely. The first tactical step was a clever move by the BCR: cripple the Japanese economy by destroying key oil supplies and rigs, hold them to ransom, going back to one of the main reasons (the other was imperialism) why Japan committed to World War 2 in the first place - but the BCR should have thought through about what happens AFTER. With the occupation also goes any chance of much stronger protection against a rival superpower: a double-edged katana!

[@johnaustin5677]

UchronianKing except they were communist

[@PRubin-rh4sr]

They are a terrorist group. Excellent in destroying but wont know anything when they accomplish their task of removing their overlords.

[@Based_Proletariat]

@@johnaustin5677 NPC

[@tony8717]

Long live the Emperor!!!

[@harvestcanada]

Emperor Hirohito's Reign came to an end in 1989. The only axis leader from WW2 to survive with his power fundementally intact.

[@donnaduffy5353]

@harvestcanada, he did not have his power fundamentally intact. He became a constitutional monarch like the queen of England, with no real power, where he had once ruled as an absolute monarch who was seen by his people to be divine.

[@harvestcanada]

@@donnaduffy5353 He is still treated with great reverence as the head of state. Being white. Powerful and violent is no longer the virtue that the world is forced to respond to. And therefore none of us owe you or any other white Conservative the Benfit of the Doubt that was your privilige to expect.

[@AlexanderTVEducation]

@@harvestcanada lol what a racist

[@someguy1900]

@@harvestcanada You managed to turn a discussion point of the Japanese Emperor's remaining power into an incoherent rant about 'white conservatives' out of the blue.

[@harvestcanada]

@@someguy1900 says America that wants to ban a children's book about Rosa Parks. Go and watch mel Gibson if you want bullshit on history

[@vanrex7682]

“We did it” well If you consider the SS is a win over the Kempeitai 😂

[@oneandonlysound3453]

There should have been a season 5 with the BCR being in ruins (they were interesting, but ruling over the whole season was a waste and useless-even early on the point is made those fighting are too divided and all that happens in the BCR still does whatever but gave weapons to the resistance who are still not being helped by like other factions at all) and the Yakuza doing most of the work, while the dream of the country being whole again actually occured, except being returned more to what it is. Not the air strike and super death bomb plans or concentration camps-a straight up hostile takeover seige that'd scare Berlin, and make them back off. Cut to a good amount of years later showing how everyone's efforts-the good and the bad-resulted in the world still being "saved" thanks to the knowledge and power of hope and the truth of the tapes from "the man in the high castle" from the other worlds. Not that goofy magical people come through the portal at random from nowhere and no idea of how or when they made them or beat out nazi's who were infiltrating other worlds either.

[@raphaeldavin9642]

My idea for the story of season 5 is the resistance eventually defeats the Nazi and fixes the timeline.

[@ChristiansEdits]

*Just released a video with A-Bomb droped by Nazy and it's aftermaths.* kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIGqdXx5ebGDfLM

[@Offical_grimes.]

Can you show a video of John smith travels to the alternate world and meets his familiy

[@shinzoabereiwa2318]

Please please yes !! Of course tenno Haika Banzai Dai Nippon Teikoku Banzai Banzai Banzai!!!!!

[@Willxdiana]

More kido scenes pl

[@Offical_grimes.]

Can you also put the scene of John smith walking to the portal of die nebenwelt and meeting his alternate family

[@Blackmage4001]

This is what is called plot convenience.

[@unowno123]

Inmagine giving up acces to oil because you cant gun down some civilians, like did germany pull out of france or the soviets out of poland during ww2?

[@Hannodb1961]

Wow. Huge oversight. The Japanese emperor never spoke in public. The first time he did was to announce the Japanese surrender. I don't think this tradition would've changed had they not lost the war.

[@GrayCatbird1]

I think the parallel it makes to real life is reason enough to have it. But in-universe I think it is conceivable that the Japanese empire willingly giving up some territories would be seen as such a tremendous, consequential and jarring shift of policy that they would need the emperor to do it. It is not unlike a defeat for them.

[@liliya_aseeva]

@@GrayCatbird1 The overall policy of publicity and disclosure went up in all modern japanese history. Remember that in 1871 the first photo of the Emperor was taken - a step unprecedented in modern history. Later, these photos were enforced in all public places just like in arab countries nowadays. So of course the publicity will go up anyways. And the online footage ensures that everyone gets the message and there is no talks about "abandoning" or "treason". Remember - ultranationalist forces were pretty much active from 1920s onwards. Several coup attempts were made. Sometimes, these nationalists assasinated several high-rank officers. They even threatened Yamamoto to start the war with the US. So of course, His Majesty directly addressing all citizens can dispel all gossips and prevent such nationalist coups or provocations. This is needed for the stability of the nation.

[@noobster4779]

Actually this would very much happen. The entire story before is that the emperor sends his sister or niece to america to get an impression of what the situation actually is instead of the stuff the military tells him. As in reality the japanease state structure is an absolute mess and would take hours to explain meaning the emperor was not an absolute monarch in the way we in the west know it as and the military basically ran everything on a daily basis. However do to the complex system of power the emeror still had a lot of power if he wanted to use it under certain conditions. His word was binding but he had to be apolitical during his council meetings. Its why the emperor basically always spoke in poems or remained silent. The military usually uderstood the emperors words and references....the way they liked it, not the way they might have been intended However a public statemeant is something the military can not understand any other way as a direct command to follow the word directly. Especially to the average soldier it was basically a command from god. Its why in our time the moment the emperor made his speech all resistance in japan ceased immediatly and depsite allied fears of guerillas and hardliners there was non of the sort during the occupation. The military hardliners that wanted to c0ontinue the war even stormed the imperial palace shoretly before the broadcast to stop it being made public. They didnt want to kill or overthrow the emperor, they didnt want his word whichw as law becoming public because for them it made the end of their power and their world. Imperial Japan was really interesting and very different then any ither countrys political system at that point in time.

[@raphaeldavin9642]

It's unclear whether it is a production error or the Japanese government eventually changed the laws. But it's true that before the defeat of Japan in the WW2, the Emperor of Japan was considered a sacred figure as the descendant of the Goddess of Sun Amaterasu therefore he never spoke in front of the public and even wasn't allowed to be seen in person by the ordinary citizens. However, it would be interesting if this series also showed some of the Japanese figures during the WW2 most particularly those who were considered war criminals like Hideki Tojo and Tomoyuki Yamashita (where in this alternate timeline they were most likely never tired for their crimes).

[@aoki6332]

@@raphaeldavin9642 even in the series they say its the first time they even see him so yeah this is to mimic japan surrender and it will have probably happens since it will have been the only way for the public opinion and the military to not completely lose faith on the state

[@Imbrojeff2361]

March of the Volunteer army intensified in the background while Battoitai slowly faded.

[@brianlindee220]

I thought it was funny when those resistance members are like we did it we beat them back like they were responsible for the withdrawal not to mention they got to contend with the German Reich which is huge I don't think they should break out the wine and beer just yet

[@daisaigaming6836]

2:06 It appears rigor mortis has already set in his jaw and eyes.

[@ariefachmadi5027]

Like hell this could be happening. Emperor of Japan is forced by US Government to broadcast his voice because they're lost the war, and this show make Hirohito live on public tv just because they're retreat from their colonies? complete non-sense. before japan lost WW2, no one in japan except higher official and emperor family ever seen and heard emperor. Even today, no one in Japan can look emperor in the eyes when you talk to him face to face.

[@ariefachmadi5027]

@Asios what do you mean? i watch it since episode 1 aired

[@deadby15]

It depends on the situation. Just check this out. Citizens are having a normal conversation with the emperor. kzbin.info/www/bejne/moTNh6Gkp9OJgLc

[@ariefachmadi5027]

@@deadby15 this is after WW2, you know what happen right? MacArthur erases the stigma that emperor is a god incarnation. rn the emperor of japan is just emperor in name that don't have anything on him except the title "emperor". this is explain why shintoism is weak in japan post ww2 compared to pre ww2. but yeah, even so the point of shintoism that emperor is god incarnation is still stand until today, if the person that meet him devout shintoism he/her can't look at the emperor in the eye because that is a bad karma but we know in japan today you may find many shinto shrine but it's rare to find devout shintoism

[@walker68175]

They were forced to withdraw from America due to a huge rebellion in China, and other problems in Asia. Takeshi Kido informed the Crown Princess that it is not necessary to hold the PSA anymore, so they gone.

[@rathernot6587]

... So they are able to conquer the US during WW2 but not China? No offense but your statement makes this entire plot even more ridiculous.

[@WhysafraidofCause]

@@rathernot6587 They did conquer China. However rebellions in the territory and surrounding areas resulted in them losing grasp upon the land.

[@rathernot6587]

@@WhysafraidofCause I see.

[@lettuceman9439]

In the books it is said that South China is controlled by Warlords Independent to Japan,Russia is Almost Unified,Indian princes underhands Japanese Hegemony on the Region and South East Asia is Killing all the japanese Collaborators.

[@Atajew]

@@lettuceman9439 Where did they find the weapons to revolt against the Japanese?

[@braydenlom8328]

You know what I wish would happened? Near the end, the BCR did not wanna go back to the ways of the United States because of segregation What the American resistance should’ve offered were two former US states to the BCR like Washington and Oregon or somewhere in the Pacific Northwest California, Nevada, Idaho,Utah and Arizona should’ve been the new USA with the resistance as their main army so they would have enough manpower to repel the Nazi invasion. But hey,it’s just my opinion

[@TheMaster4534]

>California, Nevada, etc. become the new United States So basically, there would be two USAs, one that gained independence from Japan and the other a breakaway Reich

[@firemangan2731]

Theres no way in God’s name they would be able to repel the American Reich. The American Reich is vastly technologically superior and have greater numbers compare to a flawed re-created United States.

[@braydenlom8328]

@@firemangan2731 You never know the BCR had allies in China, India and Australia sending them arms and supplies in order to stage a rebellion. If the new USA had got those same supplies they might have had a chance. Besides, over 350,000 American Reich Soldiers deserted from the Wehrmacht to join the Resistance

[@TheMaster4534]

2:05 SHAMFUR DISPRAY! Why you no commit sudoku?

[@yoga5631]

"there were no sword to use"

[@Ootgreet1]

Sick dude arso lacist... lol

[@TheMaster4534]

@@yoga5631 and what's the gunto sword IJA officers lug with even into combat for?

[@BravoSixGoingDark]

At 2:23, Smith plots his moves. 😅

[@ath3lwulf533]

I wanna see that scenes with Helen had with John on the train.

[@keitakimoto4146]

I think that Japan and America will just be like Japan and America in this world.

[@Afroman29]

The show should have elaborated more on what happened in Asia and Australia.

[@indoroyale7848]

Just as how the usa left afganistan

[@ottersirotten4290]

Nah, Japans pull out in the Show was way WAY more orderly

[@freedomstar3930]

1:36 the best bit.

[@matthewserrano4048]

And that's why they built the JSDF

[@trixstermillion2190]

Is this show really so dark, or is it just the KZbin clips of it? Because I'd love to get into this series, but I'm not going to give myself an eye strain headache to do so.

[@dilly2408]

Actually are 4 seasons with 1 hour 9 episodes each. Just Google a little bit.

[@PRubin-rh4sr]

Wow BCR you did so much

[@fredd9340]

They were expecting to make 5-6 seasons but amazon made the 4th season their last so they basically had to speed up BCR's development rapidly

[@mrandorex7495]

Is it the Double-Chinned man himself? Is it- *Hirohito?*

[@mrslavinator1057]

It is indeed

[@emie9858]

I really hate how most of this show takes place in North America, aka not the main battleground of World War 2. Why can't we see an actual Nazi victory alt-history scenario where we see Soviet partisans fighting Nazis well into the 50s-60s? Why not let us see the bitter, atrocious warfare of the Eastern Front and the Chinese Front? It's always either Western Europe or America where most of these alt-history scenarios happen and it drives me bananas. I haven't seen this TV show, but how often is China or the former Soviet Union even mentioned? Let alone how often do the characters go there? Germany's main military focus wasn't West, it was East.

[@haikalmiftah2529]

I also wondering what fascist Italy do on this circumstances: is Mussolini still alive? - If he did, does he just silent and looking his glorious nation under shadow of German Reich? or forming anti-German alliance with many southern European nation? - If he died, does Italy stay in monarch or turn into republic? Regardless it certainly doesn't like German domination over Europe.

[@Atajew]

@@haikalmiftah2529 German reich declared war on italy right after the war to fully unify Europe

[@haikalmiftah2529]

@@Atajew I don't think it would happen. As far as I know Hitler has a good relation and opinion with Mussolini.

[@maglor2414]

@@haikalmiftah2529 and Italy was successfully anschlussing other countries in this alt, unlike in the reality

[@johndavis8669]

In the show the US was weaker prior to WW2. Likely the Germans and its European friends had signed a non aggression pact and leaving the Japanese to declare war on the USA. Just like the real life non aggression pact that Hitler had with Stalin. It wasn’t honored and broken when DC was destroyed that followed a late night invasion landing from all sides.

[@navblue20]

A lot of you people on this thread absolutely positively do not get what he was saying. What he was saying in essence is they got bigger issues back home in terms of what is going on and they had to pull out. This b******* I'm seeing about grains of sand and all that stuff does not be lie this fact if you got a big ass enemy that is kicking your ass you got to make a decision on where you have to fight. They made their decision.

[@johndavis8669]

Watching this show. Comparing the actual US population of 1964 and the Man in the high castle world. The USA saw a majority of its non pure white population and almost all defective persons exterminated. The rest hiding. The Second World War coming to US shores saw over 7 to 9 million Americans dying. Also much of India dies about 35 percent died off by the Japanese when they walked into British India when Britain collapsed. The world of the high castle. Seems Japan only could invade Australia was with British weapons and with Collaborators from former European Empire Asian and South Pacific colonies. Also probably looted US Weapons when the US retook Hawaii at 1st around. In this reality the Axis would had to conquered and formed alliances with the same countries the allies did in our world. The Allies won by 1st forming alliances with leaders previously pro axis or neutral. Then the battles. In the high castle the axis did the same thing. Western South America hosted the Japanese and its puppets. Also it took a few years to formulate a plan to conquer the USA and Canada.

[@Experiment632]

What should've happened was that the Pacific States become a Commonwealth similar to real-life Canada with independence being fully achieved but the Japanese still being obligated to defend them against the Nazis.

[@Jose.AFT.Saddul]

The Japanese never really cared about the western US. Asia was always their ultimate goal. Resources going to the western US to Japans leaders would be better sent to China instead which the show implies also has a communist revolution.

[@elisabettagiugni2248]

Could you upload Kido's last scene? Thanks!

[@benhuether5474]

We got to see Hitler and now Hirohito; how come we never got to Mussolini?

[@warhawk9566]

I actually don't get this though. This is the japanese empire we're talking about. The nation that made it's enemies fight for every fucking grain of sand, even if that sand had little value. And here they are just giving up cause a boat got blown up

[@navblue20]

A lot of you people are not paying attention to the words he's saying

[@warhawk9566]

@@navblue20 no i get the story reason that they're having trouble in china and they're stretched thin. But the show plays it more like an excuse so the Japanese can save some face. I mean shit before this they had a whole ass speech about how Japan can't beat the BCR cause the BCR has been fighting these battles for centuries and they're the "villain of the week". The show makes it seem like the Japanese are scared of the BCR. And I just don't think they would be cause again, historically, the japanese empire gave up very little territory. They even fought over territory that was virtually worthless, WHILE having most of their armies fight the chinese in a stalemate.

[@TheyRiseBand]

@@warhawk9566 Given the current political climate of the US, it was expected for this show to "go woke." They had to write in a minority resistance group that won. The Japanese would not have surrendered the Pacific States, especially oil-rich Alaska. At that time, African Americans constituted around 10% of the population, most of which would've been concentrated in the South, outside of Japanese territory. The Pacific Northwest contained few African Americans at that time and had a large Asian population. If anything, the show should've written in a CCR (Chinese Communist Revolution). It would still tick the woke checkboxes and would more accurately mirror what would've happened.

[@warhawk9566]

@@TheyRiseBand I honestly don't mind the BCR as a concept, I think it's a decent concept. I just think the execution of "The Japanese are afraid of the BCR" is pretty silly. This is not a fight I think the Japanese would run from unless it went on for nearly a decade and was crippling to their empire and I don't think the show did a good job of illustrating that.

[@telescopicS627]

The writers cut corners

[@outerrealm]

1:06 the 1958 Philco Predicta Holiday model TV was never made in color versions. Big goof by the producers

[@SlackSulek]

Why is hirohito showed on tv so little

[@Election_History]

So where will Churchill Roosevelt and Stalin and others people will be at

[@hellowelcometochillis2781]

Dead

[@theidiot5496]

In this timeline churchill was assassinated in 1940 and stalin executed in 1949

[@firemangan2731]

And Roosevelt got JFK’d in 1930 following the landslide victory by the same Italian anarchist in our world.

[@Chinmeng420]

The first time empire japan withdraw from west coast of United states

[@stiernan2263]

I wonder if Hirohito still has 4,548,192 chins.

[@richardl9014]

This is very unrealistic for real Japanese who know to rather died than retreat.

[@fredd9340]

There were more pressing issues closer to home.

[@whenallissaiddonewaisad5376]

Can someone post Equiano Hampton's full intro speech?

[@larrymichalski5431]

What about the JPS territories in South America off the coasts of Peru and Chile? The show never mentioned what happened to them.

[@europeanpatriot8031]

The description says that this is a dystopian world. I would say that the opposite is the case.

[@rufushowell]

The black communist rebellion felt like the biggest slap in the face to minorities. Big disappointment on the writing team

[@Strauss1269]

Would wonder what if while Japan retreated comes explosions in their installations

[@florinivan6907]

This show really downplayed the brutality of the japanese. They got nerfed on the ruthlessness scale.

[@lawsharland7278]

yea it was weird how in the show the Japnese are portrayed as the lesser evil compared to the germans which really wasn't the case

[@atari947]

@@lawsharland7278 Japanese imperialism in many parts was more in comparison with the European empires. The British continued native aristocracy and society in many cases as to more easily exploit these areas, Japan maintained collaborative regimes which ultimately served Japanese corporations. Wage slavery to the point of basically being slavery in Japan or actual ethnic slavery in Germany, hard pick.

[@lawsharland7278]

@@atari947 true but I'm more talking about Japanese crimes and how the show potray the Japanese as far more lenient than the Germans which really wasn't the case irl the Japanese has no problems with mass executions and truly sadistic torture I mean just look at unit 731

[@shashanktalluri1121]

They don't show the grim stuff like 731 but there are Manchuria PTSD flashbacks

[@garrettcrouch2086]

I've never actually watched the show and only have basic understanding so i hope someone who knows corrects me, but id assume these characters would be terrified that the Japanese are leaving, considering the other major power is the nazis. Once they take over all blacks, jews, and other non aryans would be killed in this universe. It doesnt seem reasonable that they think they can hold off the nazis.

[@russkatherealoriginal6904]

So the Emperor said that they are gonna put their armies in Asia because a giant uprising is happening? Then if so.... If they fail their divine destiny then The Germans will move in... Hmmm...

[@MrSilvestre2002]

No....he is saying they need those forces in America to help their troubled forces in Asia, nearer homeland, because would be pointless to achieve victory so far from home is the main Japanese islands are threatened by forces closer to home (like the implicit Chineese and probably other subrogated countries like India or even Australia)

[@danb4811]

Trading one tyrant for another.

[@bigboi2773]

Childan-sannnnnnn. I want to know what will happen to childan.

[@碇シンジ-n2s]

これは何話ですか？

[@Jose.AFT.Saddul]

An alternate history story. Set in a world where Germany and Japan won the 2nd world war.

[@augu345]

Banzai !!!!!

[@StarFinderWebb]

I never heard about this show till yesterday why??!

[@danpr8233]

Same. Weird

[@gatta1242]

Dude what happen to italy?

[@thedon1570]

Yeah this would’ve never really happened they needed resources it is an island country there just would’ve been more war but they would’ve NEVER left

[@naughtyskywalker9292]

*Fucking BCR.* The series could have so much potential on how Japanese culture could have influenced western culture.

[@Based_Proletariat]

✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@ruiraposo6198]

where is the bcr soundtrack?

[@art_hist_2000]

Is there a name for the music playing in backdrop of the Emperor speech ?

[@bobdickens3674]

I don't know why the Japanese didn't go scorched Earth. It's not like the free states would've benefited the Japanese in anyway. If anything, it would've proved to only be a greater threat to the Japanese empire as the Germans would've quickly annexed the west coast and established silos from there capable of threatening more of the Japanese fleet

[@lachlanseiffert6186]

We did it Greater German Reich: Prepare for trouble

[@Atajew]

American Reich: And make it double

[@videowatcher8862]

Anyone know what the score for this scene is called?

[@Davitofrito]

America on east and west coast developing for over a generation with separate political systems will not reunite peacefully though. Japan had a much more enlightened view of things while the former nazi america isn't necessarily national socialist, it does believe in eugenics and segregation. It took generations to expunge such ideologies and was often done by executive action by president like LBJ. This scenario is gonna see a much less enlightened and more populus eastern america march over west coast america. Making people of color and minorities wonder if some sort of enlightened third option existed where they could still be Japan's allies just not puppets.

[@johnroscoe2406]

Japan murdered thousands of Chinese babies, women and old men; raped uncounted numbers of Chinese and Korean women and with their Unit 731 performed live human "testing" every bit as hellish and unimaginably horrific as Nazis did... But yeah totally more "enlightened." Weeb alert.

[@ninjasiren]

Manifest Destiny Part 2

[@johnnybarfield4402]

Is this coming out in box set in dvd?

[@hunterevans7028]

It’s on Amazon prime

[@johncase1353]

But Japan was the good guys in the show.

[@brianlindee220]

They didn't do shit they with drew on their own resistance fighters didn't scare them away

[@Norg1]

I wonder if USA will ever withdraw from Japan and south korea LOL

[@jamesricker3997]

China and North Korea need to stop making their neighbors nervous first.

[@gregorzkurz7919]

Don't worry, it will be happen soon and it is history.

[@Norg1]

i hope north korea and south korea reunite it makes no sense for them to be apart imo

[@gregorzkurz7919]

@TheGreaterGood80 Believe me, Corporate Capitalism in Japan is failing and many Japanese people are going to have big difficulties in these few decades One more thing, Western Democracy don't work well with Japanese Pacifism and the government works recklessly

[@rubenlopez3364]

Maybe if their Governments asked us to

[@acelacson1242]

jewel voice broadcast?

[@hermannalios2740]

what were his age ? in the speech

[@firemangan2731]

Hes either 63 or 64, as Hirohito is born in 1901.

[@八咫鴉-q4q]

I dreamed of glory. The world where peace is protected by Japan. When Japan brings prosperity in the world. An American may not understand it, but, As a Japanese has such a dream. It is very sad to see Japan breaking up in the same way as reality after all. Japan lost as well as reality after all, but bring the world peace and prosperity while maintaining the armaments in this world; want national. Sorry for my bad English. 正直このような終わり方を見るのは日本人としては納得出来ないが、現在の日本が天皇陛下の玉音放送から再出発したように、この世界の日本も再び世界にいい影響力を持つ国家になってくれるでしょう。

[@abstractfactory8068]

wtf

[@casecao8412]

Does "glory" involve torturing POWs, raping women and impaling children on bayonets? Seriously, fuck Imperial Japan.

[@na3044]

Why the fuck does he hang himself?!!?! Perfekt Sepukku opportunity wasted...

[@thepeach03]

America for Americans

[@bradenanderson6989]

Albino Peach based

[@thepeach03]

@@bradenanderson6989 :)

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

USA *re-exists* 😤 were my crew at, time for some freedom,

[@Cjnw]

* fascism

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

Jack the Gestapo chill, I was exaggerating.

[@russkatherealoriginal6904]

Maybe East America is going to be Communist while West is Capitalists...

[@ruhrgebietflair5444]

This whole show is one big example how americans think they are more important as they really are.