Is Transformers Cyberverse Good? | Show review

[@emperorkumquat]

I would like to compare MTMTE vs Lost Light in story writing quality, and also reveal writing flaws in Transformers Prime.

[@Monsoon-r5n]

Mercy is a better show than it

[@mohammadhusnain4704]

I don't think there are any flaws with TFP.🤔

[@Monsoon-r5n]

@@mohammadhusnain4704 there is, I hope they remake tfp on adult swim

[@mohammadhusnain4704]

@@Monsoon-r5n Can you give me an example.

[@dedalionarts6077]

In case of cyberverse I agree this is ok/good show. But as for the seasons.. Sezon 1, yea bumbelbee is annoying, but it is also the most consistent sezon, with good sezon finaly. Sezon 2, it mostly just introduces characters, but it doesn't get that much interesting unthill they started going back to cybertron. Sezon 3, yea, definitly the best sezon. And as much as I liked the new characters like Wildwheel or Meteorfire. The last view episodes where they introduce them seem a bit rushed. Especially the ending.

[@dmitrykhvostik5975]

Tarn in comics: I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe Tarn in Cyberverse: 200,000 units are ready, with a million more on the way

[@Ato-3000J]

Tarn in the comics is more like: Lord megatron said this. His word is god’s word so you abide or you suffer.

[@Baconchilldophin]

@@Ato-3000J so a deceptipope?

[@Ato-3000J]

@@Baconchilldophin maybe more like… a crazy crusader

[@justarandomyoutubeuser5074]

"also me and the boys lobotomized this spy and turned him into a robot dog lol"

[@GloomGaiGar]

@@Baconchilldophin megatron simp

[@4CHAMUKA]

Cyberverse Soundwave is such a chad and Deadend is litterally dead inside

[@albertrex6851]

I guess you can say his positivity met a Dead End .

[@cowab1625]

Deadend is the better Knockout.....

[@4CHAMUKA]

@@cowab1625 He is a sleep deprived Knockout

[@4CHAMUKA]

@@albertrex6851 I love this pun bye 🤚🏼 jsj

[@albertrex6851]

@@4CHAMUKA thanks

[@mitchellbambam5926]

Season 1: keeping it safe and getting the show started decently Season 2: the writers started to branch out and develop and explore some more characters Season 3: going deep into a few characters and the writers going nuts Season 4: giving the show a nice encore

[@Mothbean]

Season 3&4 are frigging incredible. I loved the finale so much and the show's take on the Quintessons actually made me care about them.

[@fourthknower9831]

It seems like the writers may have either been restrained or were playing things very safe. And only towards season 3 really tried to branch out in getting creative in regards to the story and its tone.

[@clogs4956]

I thought the show might be attempting to take viewers on a ride from playful innocence to the horror of multiversal genocide, but you might just have plugged the most simple explanation!

[@shawerful5209]

In my opinion transformers is better when its played safe, seeing how different every series is only using the same premise is so cool to me

[@ojjaim]

I have to say, Cyberverse Soundwave is the most iconic of the Soundwave's (after tfp of course, i could never leave best boi)

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

And the Og G1 soundwave and his Iconic Voice

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Imo tfp soundwave is the wrost boi of them. The only cool things he does in the entire show is fight wheeljack, style on arachnid and speak his funny meme quote. He's a complete push over.

[@ojjaim]

@@thesymbiotenation.4552 true

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 he is intimidating... and the best Spy the cons had

[@roukerasati9611]

Cyberverse's Soundwave is basically like a hybrid between G1 Soundwave and Transformer Cybertron's Soundwave.

[@abloodcorpse3318]

"Not tonally consistent" *Flashbacks the Megatron brutally murdering Starscream as he begs for mercy*

[@SourRobo8364]

Next episode is Grimlock high on Wheeljack's special energon. This show really isn't consistent in tone.

[@Theorymus]

I would love to see your take on the Bayformers films

[@albertrex6851]

Agreed

[@owenobrien1351]

Hey Trans theories

[@gispyprime1017]

Hey Trans and oh man I'm waiting for that too

[@pancho855]

You and me both, bud, you and me both. Up top, can't high-five you cause this is the comment section.

[@gispyprime1017]

+ COVID

[@V1-The-Supreme-Machine]

The scene were megatron tore out bumblebee's voicebox was just.... ugh, gave me chills. Especially bee's ever quieter screams.

[@kiranmason4943]

As an Australian, I approve of the cybertronian equivalent of Steve Irwin

[@Rubywing4]

I loved Steve Irwin when I was a kid. I was shocked to hear later that he was dead, but at the same time it was fitting that he died doing what he loved: handling really dangerous and venomous animals. He knew that was the way he was gonna go, and so did his family. RIP Steve Irwin.

[@Major_Arachnid_1]

I dont, like, is it really that hard to get an actual aussie that they resort to a yank putting on a poo accent

[@isaandreso215]

Say what you want about the show, but you can't deny that the designs are top notch

[@candleman7457]

👍

[@joseluissifuentes8639]

A part of me hates and loves Bumblebee’s design because I want the headlights and front of the car and putting the windshield as his chest disturbs me but it also blende bayverse and G1 Bumblebee designs

[@IndomitableTed]

No they aren't

[@Rubywing4]

I like how the show made Starscream NOT sport the Decepticon insignia. Makes him seem a bit more rebellious. I also like his different design from the other Seekers. And I like how Acid Storm is genderfluid. XD

[@Vivigreeny25]

@@Rubywing4 ACID STORM IS *WHAT???* THAT ACTUALLY EXPLAINS A LOT?????

[@generaljim3283]

Soundwaves and Hotrods friendship was precious

[@KathrenGacha]

from enemies to bros

[@harpybeagle4931]

Arcee was amazing bc of her re-characterization from "oh its a girl transformer" to a peppy fun character who is simultaneously a Berserker/Autobot Muscle on par with the Dinobots and Combiners lmao

[@charmyzard]

Yeah, that was a nice twist.

[@Crystal_Moon248]

She's like Earthspark Elita-One.

[@superxavxii421]

Soundwave and Rodimus are my favorite characters in this show. I like their partnership in the later seasons

[@hannahmenz801]

Remember he is Hot Rod in this one.

[@superxavxii421]

@@hannahmenz801 tru

[@TFxKRziin]

​@@superxavxii421 even tho he was close

[@FinalDriveshow]

Agreed! Cyberverse did a GREAT job with Grimlock as he is often portrayed as being dumb ALL the time; whereas, Cyberverse took a balanced approach slightly lessening his intelligence in dino mode so his "me Grimlock" speech patterns were still recognizable. Also, Cyberverse went the extra step explaining why this was the case in season one.

[@zzz7903]

he's how I've always imagined the original Shattered Glass Grimlock, but nice and not a psychopath

[@Ironluke_2001]

Windblade had a major improvement in this show. *For once she wasn't a non city speaker or a ruthless revenge fueled swords woman.*

[@kickbrosmasher5155]

Exactly

[@K.d_ship]

I do love bumblebee and windblades friendship though

[@Ironluke_2001]

@@K.d_ship Me too.

[@Aeon08897]

Wind blade is just an unlikeable character in every series. Feels over done…though bumblebee gets old as well. Why not let moonracer see some story

[@randomgeek95]

I actually prefer RID Windblade because she actually has a cocky, kind-hearted personality, much like Anakin in the Star Wars franchise. Sure, she started it off as a flawless know-it-all but thanks to Strongarm who got tired of her perfect bullshit, she actually develops as a character to not let her pride get in the way of the mission and that everyone makes mistakes. She also becomes a better hero as the series goes on. I only wish RID developed her more because I really like her.

[@dmitrykhvostik5975]

I like how they subverted Drift in this series. The first they made us think he's following his usual "I was bad, but now I'm good" character. But then... BOOM! he was a loyal decepticon all along. And this scene from S1 in Mccaddam's house was nothing but perfectly orchestrated show to Infiltrate Deadlock into the autobots ranks. Brilliant, Megatron, Brilliant.

[@superxavxii421]

@@jonathanleon4989 true, the concept was great but executed felt a bit rushed. Still a cool reveal though, just should have been better executed

[@ArcTrooper269]

SOMETHING VERY UNDERRATED OF CYBERVERSE ARE THE BACKGROUNDS & THE SCENARIOS, THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL & SO DETAILED, THEY FEEL FULL OF LIFE & ENERGY

[@komasanswirls9466]

I sometimes use the backgrounds as reference for things they're so damn amazing

[@KathrenGacha]

yeah agreed. tfp lacked that, they seemed to be re-using a lot of bgs and landscapes

[@bittiebee]

Another criticism I have for the show is that the voice performances are VERY flat, even for the likeable characters. As someone who has worked with voice actors before, it is very hard for me to watch the show without cringing at how BAD the voice direction is. Edit: To clarify, many of the voices are high quality actors, and have great tone and clarity. However, it is the voice director who failed to capitalize on their great voices, ending up with the majority of the performances sounding mediocre.

[@zmeeder3709]

I absolutely agree, and there is notably the same issue in the latest Netflix TF series as well. I can't help but wonder if Hasbro has some kind of specific voice performance related guidelines or restrictions etc. for directors/actors? It's weird that this flat voice thing definitely seems to be a trend with more recent TF media.

[@zemox2534]

@@zmeeder3709 I know the voice acting in Netflix TF is boring. The Voice work in TFA was awesome. The director really did a good show pushing the actors to try new things with their performances.

[@gault6546]

i'm not good at finding flaws in a show / movie (hell i didn't even really notice the slow as hell VA in Netflix's WFC until someone pointed it out and i rewatched it). so could you please point out some examples of characters that have mediocre voice acting? i'm just really curious.

[@AJFromBatuu]

And for some characters, the voices just flat out don’t fit, and that makes it difficult for me to be fully invested in the character.

[@forlornhauntedghost]

That's the main reason I can't watch this show because the voices are so idk just so misplaced and odd it's hard to describe

[@giorgimamalashvili4220]

I like how this show went from a comical "bot finding memories" adventure to a literal spooky Quintesson invasion. There is actually one human character that appears in this show, his name is Comodin Cam (as a kid!)

[@emperorkumquat]

They named the kid? I remembered humans driving by, but they didn’t become “characters”

[@giorgimamalashvili4220]

It was a joke.

[@heckinsnek8724]

@@giorgimamalashvili4220 Ah, it's kinda hard to tell with text sadly. sorry bud o7

[@giorgimamalashvili4220]

@@heckinsnek8724 nah it's fine.

[@tarn4633]

If I were a die hard fan and knew a plethora of info about Cybertron, and wanted a show for kids, my answer would be cyberverse. After TFP, this has become quite rewatchable.

[@therediodeerman5811]

Cyberverse to me wasn't a war story, it was two friendship groups who's leaders didn't get along, that's basically it until you take them out of the picture.

[@neon_lavander]

Season 3 was perfect, the best thing about it was that not only did we get skywarp as a woman, but she was the *leader of the seekers* , as a skywarp fan, I love it

[@Rubywing4]

The bad thing about it is that Skywarp never spoke. :/

[@neon_lavander]

@@Rubywing4 she didn't do very much at all in season 3, quite a shame

[@Rubywing4]

@@neon_lavander I hope she gets to do more in the upcoming movies. I'm working on a Cyberverse ghost Starscream story (currently only 4 chapters), and so far I've had Skywarp assemble Starscream's dismembered body and have a speech at his funeral. Not much yet, but I am planning for more with the story. An attempt at a redemption arc, of sorts.

[@neon_lavander]

@@Rubywing4 most interesting

[@neon_lavander]

@@Rubywing4 are you putting it on any sites like DA?

[@yourbestfriendinshooters3088]

3:58 that voice... perfect, now i love cosmos

[@DarkOneSixtyfour]

Gotta defend Bee here. If he really lost his memory as much as he seemed than everything would be new to him. He'd basically be like a baby so him acting dumb is actually very real to his situation.

[@Nico0Nikii]

I agree with you

[@acethemain7776]

yet in the cortical psychic patch or whatever, he acts more like an adult

[@alduintheanti-dragonborn]

At least his damaged voice box lasted only 1 season.

[@GokuBlackRose978]

Losing memories is never lose all memories or lose 1, it’s more of random tomfoolery, people got mad at the show for this, petty I know 😑

[@charmyzard]

Felt horrified having that note in the back of my mind watching S1 this year again.

[@xXCALLIOPEXx]

I'm honestly surprised you didn't bring up Bee's reaction to reliving the trauma of losing his voice...If your brain delibritally forgets a memory bc it can't deal with the large emotions, then remembering that trauma would be well- traumatizing. You're essentially reliving your worst nightmare come true and all Bee has to say in this series is 'Its okay bc I can talk now! :D' As someone who has a bit of trauma block and ended up reliving a small bit of it, this is not how ANY sane character would react. (If anyone thinks otherwise I would happily discuss this /gen) Thank you for listening to my TedTalk-

[@Shawdios]

Cyberverse always bounced around in my liking of it. The art style put me off at first And I was hesitant to watch it after suffering through rid12 But it turned out well in my opinion

[@ojjaim]

"Suffering" is an understatement

[@pancho855]

@@ojjaim Because to the fandom, RID 2015 is to Transformers what Mighty No.9 was to MegaMan.

[@Shawdios]

@@ojjaim quite indeed

[@lazarx804]

@@pancho855 Made worse by the fact that it was the canon follow up to Prime

[@MarvelandDC379]

That's how I felt about Transformers Animated. I didn't like the show at first because of the art style, but it grew on me and became one of my favorite Transformers shows.

[@brianholmes1812]

Something I personally loved was the episode where they did elaborate on Optimus a little, showing him to be socially awkward and a bit of an introvert beneath the leadership and speeches. I just found that a fun take on him Also a real pet peeve for me was how bumblebees clips were very obviously just the one actor saying things, sometimes with a context, sometimes without. If you're going to commit to bumblebee talking through the radio, It would be a better odea to use various clips and voices to make it even somewhat convincing

[@Ironluke_2001]

First season was definitely a slow start and I almost stopped watching, but after that I actually found myself liking the show a lot more than I thought I would. Second season really started to pick things up and the third season was very good. I really liked a lot of the characters and some of the new takes on certain other characters. The show still suffers a bit as you pointed out, but overall it was actually pretty good. Probably a 7/10 in my opinion. Doesn't beat the top 4 (Prime, G1, Animated and Beast Wars), but it's still pretty good and it's worth watching at least once.

[@Archive_7802]

It’s made it into my top five, but just _barely:_ 1. Animated (personal bias) 2. G1 (extended family and I geek out over it from time to time) 3. Prime (The Hub was the best thing to happen to television) 4. Beast Wars (couldn’t watch when it first came out because I didn’t exist, but holy hell was it good!) 5. Cyberverse (this video is the explanation)

[@SpiderWuss69420]

Still it is better than RID. You can't deny that.

[@droppedinbase5777]

@@Archive_7802 bro I'm glad someone remembers The Hub, i remember getting up in the morning to go to school and seeing g1 and transformers prime, good times man

[@Archive_7802]

@@droppedinbase5777 saaaaaame

[@uainjansun]

​@@droppedinbase5777 same

[@dmitrykhvostik5975]

About Maturity, I think Cyberverse has the same thing as Star Wars the Clone Was series, where first seasons writing and themes it portrayed were a WAY LOT different than last seasons. It's okay and make young fans to believe the series grows with them, which kinda cool.

[@timur5241]

What I liked about it 1. vehicle designs (especially seekers) 2. humans not being a part of the story 3. Cybertron is not just a big metal city covering the whole planet 4. staying on plot for 2 seasons (find the Allspark and get it back to Cybertron) 5. opening 6. Grimlock's character What I didn't like about it 1. Lockdown's character (after bayformers this doesn't feel right) 2. sense of speed (periodically cars and jets feel slow and some of their maneuvers just... idk) 3. characters feel like stuffed toys when being thrown (example: Megatron grabbing and throwing Starscream) or maybe it's just because of the animation style 4. not enough depth (after TFP specifically), probably because it's for children, but like, previous shows were also supposed to be for children and look at how they ended 5. voices (especially Optimus and Megatron)

[@SuikodenClive]

Yeah, Megatron's voice is awful.

[@JackoHak]

I think Lockdowns character was great, just not as Lockdown. But the design was amazing.

[@Accelerator0001]

Tbf, Bee is supposed to be youngest autobot 14, 15, or 16yo. Due to the war, he got forced to mature early, thus without memories, his maturity reverted back to his real age. Not to mention, The flashbacks showed how playful/friendly he really was even before the war began, so yeah kinda why he became annoyingly(adorably), playful amnesiac bot😂

[@yewjiaxiansam1962]

Teenage transformers are at ten of thousand of years old

[@green-legacy]

i remember laughing when megatron said rip starscream and all the humans where like WHOS STARSCREAM??

[@UltraPrimal]

I love Cyberverse! I wish the episodes were longer. I wish we had more of them. And I wish the toys were better. But it's still a great series. And yes! Rescue Bots Academy is super adorable, and I love it too!

[@blueraccoon1088]

Hey UP didn't expect you'd be here

[@joseluissifuentes8639]

Hi, when are you going to review Ben 10?

[@alexdemaster_5796]

Primal! (also just wanna know whos ur fav character in cyberverse)

[@megatron9183]

We are going to get 2 movies soon in Nov with the OG dinobots(more grimlock time) , Megatron X and Megatron again

[@megatron9183]

Megatron X possibly getting reinforcements from alternate dimensions and get many Decepticons from those dimensions

[@EisenDrache125]

I miss the TFP animation style so much...

[@PapaNihil-w3x]

Designs were so unique.

[@quinnylenaedan9698]

TFP captured little details like the scuffs and scrapes and even the way the eyes moved so so well, and the transformations AAA I would love to see the same style retouched using current technology and stuff. Though I would worry about story quality but that may also just be my bias towards TFP talking (had so much potential even if a lot was missed out on, still is amazing at capturing my attention every time)

[@shadowninja1059]

@@PapaNihil-w3x true it gives me that movie vibe

[@dippy_1999]

@SUPREMACIA PMC I’m glad it’s gone. It just looked like giant robots covered in layers upon layers of armor, and all the faces ((with the exception of Bulkhead)) were all the same shape, just a bit different each time. Plus, it caused the showrunners to go over-budget each episode.

[@tclcosmin6596]

@@dippy_1999 I fail to see you making any arguments of the show being overall bad. "Character faces were all the same with some variations, Bulkhead being the most unique" What abaout the Insecticons, Predacons (beast form), Vehicons, Bumblebee, Shockwave and Soundwave? And whilst their mouth movements might all be roughly the same, every character had unique designs for their eyes. "Went overbudget with each episode" Fault of the superior financing department miscalculating production costs. "Failed to make a deep and meaningful story" :MegaBruh: There's a clear opinion bias. The general audience's consensus was that TFP was a great show, with a meaningful story packaged with enough action, lore and an acceptable amount of cliche. Peck, even the human characters were given relevance in the story. All parts of the cast had a moment to shine and given a level of dimension/humanization to their characterization to feel compelling.

[@demonicchicken1121]

if i ever wrote a transformers show (which i actually want to someday) i would include a lot of classic, fan favorite, characters, but put new spins on them. i love exploring character backstories (especially tragic ones) and createing deep characters in general. i love writing and watching stories that take place during or after war, because it provides so many opertunities for those backstories and character exploration

[@cowab1625]

ngl, the first half of season3 is my favorite piece of Transformers media

[@wiexun9381]

Cyberverse grimlock is so cute

[@alexmath1579]

I absolutely love the Wheeljack in this series. I really hoped that him and Shockwave would have a maintained friendship

[@carolina0930]

We all agree that Skybite's voice is just glorious 🎶✨ what I liked the most about the show was: Shockwave and Wheeljack's relationship, the iconic and fun What can be Soundwave and its relationship with shadowstriker, Whirl, Deadend, the creative and fun of the series, The truth of the reaction of humans with aliens and see more of the culture of Cybertron

[@Rand0maStudi0s]

I 100% agree. This show's version of Grimlock is SO fun, and i adore his relationship with Arcee. Furthermore, this show introduced me to Perceptor and man, he is the COOLEDT thing i have ever seen

[@uberkirbeeh7954]

This show was great. I just wish it was longer with a longer and proper story.

[@allared9008]

3:55 I never noticed Cosmos getting rekt by the alien 👽 thanks

[@l00myn84]

They kinda wasted tarn I feel like his personality with his voice would’ve been right up their alley but they gave the music thing to soundwave which ig its cool

[@dmitrykhvostik5975]

It's rumoured he'll become a real character in second part of future Cyberverse movie called "Perfect Decepticon"

[@arbaanahmed9512]

@@dmitrykhvostik5975 wdym movie

[@bromicorn]

@@arbaanahmed9512 they're making 2 cyberverse movies

[@GokuBlackRose978]

@@dmitrykhvostik5975 tarns dead and so is soundwave, they gonna pull a cheetor with these two?

[@Soundwave413]

You summarized this up perfectly. I remember feeling pretty mixed on season 1. Bumble bee while annoying at times I found to be cute like that puppy that just keeps bumping stuff. As for Windblade I found her to be acceptable though like you said she felt a bit too good. If your charecter is a good fighter have them have mental challenges (arcee and breakdowns anger issues) which actually came to bite them back and cost the latter his life. Or if they have perfect morals have them hesitate in crucial moments (think megaman x in the day of sigma ova) it didn't help that most of the shows fights were mostly below average with none of the blows feeling that they provide impact and everytime we see a fight it feels like the characters don't even know how to and the cannon fodder characters (seekers and unamed models ) just ran in and got taken out in one hit. Vechions at least had a few shinning moments to make them feel formidable. In prime we actually had good fight choreography with characters always jumping around and showing feats of agilty and strength. Season 2 being a huge step up form me in terms of humor and characters grimlock, soundwave, shockwave, arcee and wheeljack to name a few. The thing I didn't like though was that humans felt a bit underused. If the war is going to take place on earth give them a role to play. In prime I grew to care for Raf, Jack and Miko, which in turn lead me to care about the humans and not want to see them harmed. In cyberverse I would feel indifferent if shockwaves planet smasher destroyed earth since they gave us Noone to care for on earth. If they will not have humans take a role on the show then don't go to earth at all. (One of the reasons I liked season 3 alot more ) Season 3 being the best of the bunch since I actually felt stakes and it was nice seeing just a ragtag groups of both bots and cons work together for something greater and the idw refrencences were a nice touch as well it was nice seeing how characters like percepter work with dead end and clobber.

[@heckinsnek8724]

I agree to disagree with your points, mainly them being on earth...while it's one thing that they were on earth, there's only so much they can do with humans especially since almost all Transformers Shows (except Beast Wars, War for Cybertron or possibly Prime wars but I haven't seen that yet) have included them. *Yes* Earth maybe should have played a role, however...we've seen *so many* times in both shows, movies, & comics where armies got involved or some human companions came in, only very few shows like Prime or Animated have made them useful & that's something that's always bothered me with humans being involved with their Cybertronians. Maybe offscreen they did during the stream segments, though in a lot of Cyberverse they were in places humans rarely were it seemed. I feel like if Transformers were to have humans in a show again, I want to see it with the cons just to change the flow from it not being just the Autobots since we've only seen hints of it in G1 & Animated (Not sure if I can count Armada with Starscream & Alexis). The human *doesn't have* to be evil...but maybe a moral conflict or exploring Megatron's perspective of the war would be interesting. But that's just my opinion to be taken with a grain of salt. ^^

[@dippy_1999]

@HeckinSnek Beast Wars had proto-humans.

[@Soundwave413]

@@heckinsnek8724 while I see your point I feel like beast wars is an exception as the earth is so primitive their is no reason for humans to take part, and in the early seasons we were lead to belive the maximals and predicons were on some random planet, there is also the fact that both factions ships were crippled meaning they were stuck on earth. In cyberverse the autobots were stuck in a volcano and the nemesis was fully operational and could have flown in and carpet bomb the volcano when ever they felt like it. I just feel that if their going to be on earth then human interaction should be built up and if they don't, then it feels like earth is just another battle field with nothing special . It would have been better in my opinion if they took fighting to other planets like velocotron, junkion, or kaminous and show other worlds with unique environments.

[@The_PokeSaurus]

So it's like the Team Fortress 2 of Transformers? Death isn't treated very seriously, and it's not so much a war as two sides fighting over something that's not specified.

[@GCHumanGuy]

With less hats

[@The_PokeSaurus]

@@GCHumanGuy Oh gosh, that's true.

[@darknova1552]

With everyone in 2 sides is a Robot

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

We would put it at 6/10 cause Windblade and Slipstream are best girls... we just hate how shallow and not... interesting it's Civil War is...

[@Ironluke_2001]

Windblade finally got a good TV version of herself for once. *For once she wasn't a non city speaker or a ruthless revenge fueled swordswoman.* (Unlike RID and Prime Wars)

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

@@Ironluke_2001 oh don't remind us of that trilogy... funny how Cyberverse Windblade is the closest we'll get to a accurate TV version of IDW Windblade

[@jagtech490]

Well that second point is kinda unfair since primes civil war was uninteresting too I’d a more fair point is that it’s ten minute episodes really limit the show and don’t allow for expanded world building like in animated and beast wars

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

@@jagtech490 Prime's Civil war was depicted in the two best Transformers games, war and fall of Cybertron...

[@Ironluke_2001]

@@thesymbiotenation.4552 Transformers: Devastation is also a great Transformers game. (I know it doesn't focus on Cybertron like the other 2, but it's still really good)

[@joseluissifuentes8639]

The best character here is Maccadam

[@urfavalaina5363]

Yes, he’s an absolute chad

[@joseluissifuentes8639]

@@urfavalaina5363 He’s wise but can crack a good joke

[@zzz7903]

*buff Rung*

[@athame1126]

It always infuriated me how Windblade alone could overpower all of the seekers effortlessly, it just made them all seem so,,, useless and pathetic? Especially in contrast to their lore

[@Me-wx1mt]

5:11 you shall not pass me, human! for I, the great papy- I mean... skybyte... will stop you.

[@zosig23]

Cyberverse gets good at season 2 in my opinion, starscream trying to kill everybody constantly is very nice

[@k4tzxbeel0vedz]

i personally thought bumblebee in this show was adorable and his character here seemed very refreshing to me:)

[@glory2cybertron]

Season 3 is amazing especially in the way they incorporated elements from Lost Light. By substituting the Quintessons instead of Getaway and the Omega Guardians as villains, they made the story much less complicated than it's in the comics. The first two seasons kept me watching because of the self-aware humor and both Waves being highly entertaining.

[@SourelppA]

The only time I really enjoyed the show was when they had the quintesson invasion arc, along with them finding Windblade's mind fragments. The animation is pretty cool, but the voice acting hurts me sometimes. I remember laughing historically when HotRod got stabbed by DeadLock (Drift) because his first reaction to it was "Oh.." xd

[@uniquelygeekly3120]

The biggest issue I had with Cyberverse was the massive leaps in cannon it took from the end of each season to the next. The leap from season two to three was bearable but from one to two raised more questions than it answered. But other than that I really liked it, even if I never really took it seriously as a show, it was just funny to me.

[@jp-wc4ce]

I agree, I remember I thinking I must've skipped the first s2 episode by mistake but no, the shift really is that jarring!

[@heckinsnek8724]

I feel like that was on purpose for Transformers: Battlegrounds since it seems to take place after Season one, a game I don't really like due to how repetitive it is & feels dragged out for how they did it.

[@joseluissifuentes8639]

12:42 Slipstream: Yeah, I did. Optimus: First time?

[@katthekat2334]

Just when im questioning wheter or not to watch cyberverse xD Great video as always emperor kumquat

[@audreyyoung1471]

I think another problem, at least for me personally, is that the episodes are way too short. From what I remember, each episode is only, like 10 minutes long, and it barely gives me any time to get properly attached to any characters that are supposed to show up for only one episode. For example, when we were introduced to Blurr I believe it was and the cosmic rust ended up killing him and his planet, I didn't really feel all that sad for both Blurr and Bumblebee due to said episode being way too quick with its pacing and how abruptly it ended. It could barely even process how the rust came to the world to begin with when the episode was over.

[@Lemuel928]

Season One did reveal much of Bee’s Backstory about how Megatron ripped off his voice.

[@syabilaazri7834]

Season 3 has to be my fav. I do love some episode from Season 1 and 2 but the third season is the close of what we have of Lost Light cartoon series. I say Lost Light and not the G1 movie due to the characters, how the story progress, the humor (Mcaddam is like someone fuse Swerve with Rung just to prevent over-crowded) i really wish that Hot Rod earn his title as a Prime. I dont care if he still keep the dark red paint even when he earn it, he prove to be a good leader and able to unite the Autobot and the Decepticon while Optimus Prime did try more then 4000 time with Megatron but still fail, Hot Rod prove to them how working together able to take down both Quintesson and Starscream in short time while it take more then the half of season 2 just to take down Starscream alone. Sometime, i hate when people say that Hot Rod didnt deserve the title of a Prime even after all that he did. It like Season 3 finale of My Little Pony all over again

[@hannahmenz801]

Your right about Hot Rod. This the best version so far they treated him like a character with a role.

[@oshkeet]

11:26 I think is the best advice you can give to a show that by its nature introduces/rotates a lot of new characters. There's nothing wrong with having a badass, or even two equal badasses, but JOBBING an existing character to STOP looking badass and make a new one look good just pisses off fans of both.

[@purr-u5p]

Soundwave being a good guy is something I have never seen.

[@gamersofchaos8130]

6:32 I love how all the people in chat are named after Lovecraftian horror too.

[@tacotown4598]

Just the concept of starscream being murdered by megaton and then he streams his death live on Facebook is breaking me

[@christiangibson2733]

It's weird because I've seen just some goofy scenes, but I then watch Megatron just.....beat starscream to death

[@Taogone]

The way you described windblade is how I 100% feel about the character as well

[@DeniInDenial]

Transformers: Cyberverse is my 3rd favorite show. Seeing Windblade in Cyberverse and her personality in this show after watching the Prime Wars Trilogy was SO refreshing

[@beelordtheknight6150]

I liked cyberverse too it’s one of my favorites up there with transformers prime, animated and the original oh and rescue bots

[@duncanw5644]

Soundwave turned into a sigma male in cyberverse

[@RobinSwede]

I actually don't mind the childishness because it's fun to watch. This is an example of a "teen titans go" style show done right.

[@abbycopley]

I’m gonna be completely honest this show was really good 😅

[@JackoHak]

Season one wasnt the best, but i loved the flashback scenes on cybertron before the war and then showing how the war really destroyed it. I also agree on season 1 windblade being too good everything as well as Starscream and (especially) Thundercracker looking pathetic because of that. At least in that continuity seekers do get look down on. I really like some of the risks that show took despite its seemingly kid friendly nature with Shadow Strikers destruction and reconstruction, starscreams death, the seekers sparks being removed against their will by one of their own kind.

[@mateusduarte4333]

I think Many things from Season 1 were lost on next Seasons or had bad execution Endings like: - Windblade X Bumblebee friendship: They were the main characters, but after Season 2,they barely talked with each other and they were supposed to be Best friends, you could say Hotrod was bee's Best friend and Chromia wind's Best friends, their friendship was so natural and good to watch. Slipstream X Wind/Bee X Shadow rivalry: Both had a pretty mediocre ending, both were personal and The first One had Such raw ending, with Slip dying and Wind trusting her life to avenger her when they basically wanted to kill each other, we needed more of them become enemies to friends. The second One was pretty personal and Bee saved Shadow's life, but Shadow ignored that, she should've been more conflicted about her hatred about Bee, this Just happened in the Last episodes. And Many good characters that barely were secondary characters like, Arcee, that if you exclude from show, nothing big would change, and i always see Arcee as the main fembot.

[@samsthebeztatstuff8885]

They also felt a little less restrained with the budget. Unlike tfp where they had to kill off characters before we cared enough about them to be sad. Or rid15 where 60% of the characters are retools

[@Quantum_Magnus]

Having seen a few episodes here and there, I think the main issue with the lack of character development is the fact that it’s an 11 minute block as opposed to a 22 minute block. Episodes are too short and there’s only so much you can do in that time.

[@finnthomas7014]

i really like cyberverse, i'm not sure if it's as good as prime, but it is really enjoyable EDIT: also whirl best character

[@cyberproductions3736]

I honestly adore the cyberverse characters they were a joy to watch wish the show didn't had to end so soon.

[@jp-wc4ce]

I LOVE Cyberverse, it's what really got me into Transformers, but I agree that it has problems. I'd say the lack of lore is down to the length of the episodes (not that it's much of a problem for me because I also love speculative fanfiction haha) so hopefully the movies will fix some of that. It's such a shame it takes until season 3 to get really good but I still find the first two seasons enjoyable... except for the unspace episode. I HATE that one lmao. And don't even get me started on the writing decisions in the Battle For Cybertron arc! The only one of your crits I disagree with about Windblade, like I don't think she or the seekers are written well at first but I wouldn't call her a sue. That being said I haven't seen her in any other media so I haven't had a chance to get tired of her characterisation. Great video as always, I'd love to hear your thoughts on MTMTE vs Lost Light!

[@MySkinnydip]

I loved Dead End and Perceptor in season 3! And I always go back and watch Primes robot dance!

[@katzske]

Cyberverse season 1 was horrible, I'm happy that it glowed up during the 3rd season

[@wolfgang6442]

I agree

[@zara-hope5518]

The quintessons looked super creepy. They really did a good job.

[@Mikuhatsune0110]

I loved this series beginning to end, and it had nearly everything any fan could have ever wanted within it, but I do agree it did feel like something was missing at times with the tone. 😅

[@jakobmontijo347]

Honestly, fantastic show, with incredible world-building, and characters, but the random story skips and massive plot holes between specific episodes are a little weird, other than that great! Edit time: season 4 was a lot more cheesy and felt rushed, I know it's a kid's show, but still, it didn't live up to the quality of the previous seasons. On top of that, it was 2, 40-minute episodes instead of 20, 11-minute episodes so we got less content in general.

[@Schonalles]

If anything there's one more flaw with Cyberverse that I'd like to point out. The plot structure is decent, with a clear climax and resolution, but to me the show keeps fully resolving before jumping to the next plot point. Consequently, I couldn't really make it past the resolution of the Quintesson invasion in season 3 because, to me, the series should've already ended. There wasn't really good segways into each separate plotline so it felt like three shows just awkwardly stitched together in my opinion. What should've been done was leaving the plotlines partially unresolved, to keep the viewer's attention as the next plotline is shuffled in. But, that's just my opinion.

[@shadowmarauder6033]

At first I was nervous, since RID 2015 was also a kids show and it sucked, but even in the first season it surprised me. Yes, the characterization was very shallow, many characters were mary sues or just bland compared to others, and they never really seem to act like they’re at war(other than optimus & megatron) However, Cyberverse did much better than probably everyone expected. It introduced both new characters and old characters that needed more time in the spotlight. I love that they gave bludgeon & tarn their moments in the spotlight. Never thought that would ever happen. Pretty much all the new characters were awesome, especially clobber. But what I love most about it is the boldness: they decided to introduced the multiverse(a bit shallow, but still!), they mostly focused on either new or obscure characters, and even did very well done plot twist. These include wildwheel’s backstory, drift’s allegiance, and the whole quintesson arc.

[@joseluissifuentes8639]

Clobber is just a female Lugnut

[@heckinsnek8724]

I agree! I think this was a perfect way to do it. I recall Transformers Armada was going to have a sequel as a multiverse but it was cancelled I think due to the budget they needed (& getting the license to use the characters I believe since it would've included G1 & Beast Wars) & limitations of creativity since it was going to "delete the other universes" so that only Armada's existed which I can understand since people wouldn't have liked that. I think Cyberverse handled this much better than that would've.

[@charmyzard]

I think 1:27 is because he acts REALLY close to Team Fortress 2's Engineer. Now, that's an interesting homage.

[@pesssca]

I think CV is similar to g1, because it gets more serious every season. Like the g1 intros show us how this cartoon is changing and growing. In season 1, just a nice lovely intro. I'm really kind of scared of the intro of season 3 and 4 of g1.

[@sophiekrueger4719]

It's almost like they pulled a Clone War with season 3: they started out with a kids show but realized that there was more than their intended audience watching.

[@Rubywing4]

Wait, Cyberverse is going to release two movies??? OMG I AM HYPED!!! Also 6:33 I love the in-show chat, especially the one saying "Who's storescream?" XD So realistic! That's one of my favorite things from Cyberverse, humans simping over Starscream in the show itself XD When I saw that one of the season 2 episodes was called "Starscream's Children", I got overly excited and curious and had no idea what was gonna happen. I definitely did not expect the Scraplets, and that was perhaps the one thing I didn't think of, and I got a bit disappointed... XD One of the writers of Cyberverse is actually a fan fiction writer and in, I think, a Q&A section about the show, she encourages people to write fan fiction as it helps you develop story writing and development. I just feel like that the fact one of the writers of the show is a fan fiction writer might explain the Starscream-simping lol Also, Windblade too OP. Good thing she was MIA in season 3. A fan fic writer named espioc on Archive Of Our Own wrote a fic in the IDW universe called "Where You Rest Your Head", where Windblade is being a sheer jerk and wanting her parole program to be perfect and flawless, but because Starscream (a parole) and a few others are not doing well in the program, she tries to sweep the flaws under a rug, and she's generally being aggravating because she also implements laws against Cold Constructed bots without knowing what it all means. I think it's a really good story and makes a good job of turning the Mary Sue-Windblade into not-so Mary Sue because you're gonna end up hating her. Also Starscream and Wheeljack becomes friends, which I really like about IDW that those two become friends. And yeah, I do also hate how dirty the Seekers have been done in Cyberverse. I did think it seemed odd that they, even Starscream, all went down so easily. I do love Starscream's Sonic Scream ability tho, that was cool. And also the missiles in his chest XD I also hate that they included Skywarp in season 3 but didn't give her any lines. :/ I love that they made Skywarp a female here though. I love Cyberverse, but I agree that they could have done so much more with it, added so much more. I feel like if the episodes had been 22 minutes long like normal shows, they would have had more room for character development and lore. Like, giving Starscream a redemption arc, having the city of Vos appear on TV, or at least show us what it looks like! Showing more Cybertronian cities and what cultures the various cities have. Explain what purpose metal plants have in their eco-system. I do like that the show ends with peace between the Autobots and Decepticons, practically no other shows have that. They either have the Autobots win and the Decepticons locked behind bars or convert to Autobots, or the society is mainly Autobot and only a few Decepticons are allowed to roam without being Autobots, but eventually being forced to turn into Autobots "out of guilt and to fit in", like with Laserbeak in Rescue Bots Academy. Here, though, they start by having half the planet ruled by Autobots, and the other half ruled by Decepticons. Then at the end, they accept each other and mingle like they used to before the war. No majority having more rights than the other. Both seem to be equal in their new society. Cyberverse actually managed to work things out between the two sides. I think they started the war simply due to different ideologies/methods of attaining equality/peace. I... don't really remember, actually. I might have to watch the show again. Probably also the longest war in any of the continuities, as it lasted over...what, 69 million years or something? Around that. I love Cyberverse, but it does need some fan fiction attention. I am looking forward to the two movies though! :D

[@SomeoneOfNoPast]

Holy shit you wrote an entire essay.

[@Rubywing4]

@@SomeoneOfNoPast Yeah, I do that often. XD

[@MrBleuskyz]

It makes me so mad season 3 isn’t on Netflix yet bc so many videos are giving me even more reason to want to watch season 3

[@tropicalsnow8784]

Isn't it all on KZbin? (If we are talking about Cyberverse)

[@MrBleuskyz]

@@tropicalsnow8784 is it?? I would be so happy if it was

[@heckinsnek8724]

Look up Transformers Official, they should have the full Season 3 Episodes on it

[@CC-Cobalt-1043]

@@heckinsnek8724 well nearly anyway

[@JohnSWeekley]

I loved that Soundwave had some good spotlight time in this, but they did his voice dirty. Sounded like an edgy teen OC with a chorus effect.

[@daneyal7162]

I really, really, REALLY wish that characters like Tarn, Nova Prime, Jhiaxus and Overlord will get more love in modern media of Transformers. Yes, I know that Overlord appeared in the Prime Wars Trilogy, but I mean that I want to see these characters in more modern tv shows or movies about transformers.

[@warriorpredator128]

You know what's funny for me? In Transformers Cyberverse, Shockwave and Soundwave were at they're throats trying to sabotage each other, while in Transformers Prime, they we're the best duo in the series

[@starchaser1779]

when i was like 8 or 9 years old, i used to watch “attack on titan” or anything on the “adult swim” tv channel at midnight on school nights. usually, blood, gore or cannibalism would terrify young kids but it always fascinated and i never cared that any of the shows cussed a lot

[@baron4718]

8:00 Aye Redwall gang! I have to agree with most of your points. Cyberverse was a really fun series, but it feels like it had so much wasted potential (I'm still sad about Shockwave)

[@Renkencen]

Personally I was not a fan of the first season focusing on Bumblebee recovering is memory with Windblade help and then to revied the rest of the Autobot. The only good part of season 1 was seeing flashback of Cybertron pre War era as it was an interesting insight to see on screen. No other past Transformers has showns that! Season 2 was kinda interesting in that it was kinda like G1 except removing any human interactions. Season 3 is where it really got to shine and the Quintession arc is probably my favourite arc as it make the situation very dire (at the start only being Hot Rod, Perceptor and Clobber being the only Transformers left to stop them) and dark!

[@chadpeterson5698]

Me personally I like how this Starscream has no redeeming qualities even from the beginning he was always a jerk and once the war started he got to do almost anything he wanted to, and he ruined it be either plotting against Megatron, or messing up. Eventually this leads to Megatron beating Starscream to death. And then Starscream comes back as a genocidal maniac who believes that in order to stop the war he needs to kill everyone involved, however later it's revealed that Starscream actually only wanted to destroy his enemies and become a God. This eventually leads to Starscream joining with the quintessons and he tries to destroy the entire universe making him easily the most evil character in the entire series so far and the most evil incarnation of Starscream so far.

[@sneakysneakyraccoon8538]

so like most Starscreams right?

[@dimdive7997]

...yeah, the first parts of the show really threw me off but looking at that clip from the Quintesson-arc I should probably give it another go. Also, that music was funky and for that alone the show deserves a second chance

[@Wolfmansgeneralchannel]

I saw this was on Netflix and thought, “eh why not, it’s just 15 minutes each episode,” by the time I finished I was upset the 3rd season wasn’t on, the show has a lot of what I think every transformers fan wanted, also probably one of the darkest megatron vs starscream moments too

[@heartlessnobody1143]

Cyberverse most weird thing i loved was soundwave being a jock and blasting músic in the middle of negociation

[@bumblebricks3669]

12:22 That's exactly my point. I've been watching the whole show with my nephew. We both enjoy it, and personally I think it's one of the coolest shows for "kids" I've even seen, wish it was part of my childhood. But I completely agree on this one and so I kept complaining about it! Autobots and Decepticons kept reuniting like 2 different soccer teams. We could barely feel the impact from the war, it was simply too slow, too strange. Everything felt out of place and that was such a low point because how can you mess up so badly with the basic of the whole show?! I mean, Transformers, in constant war? That's so typical and fundamental for any show but here it's none of that. That frustrated me