自己的東西當然可以用自己的方法去處理,這點我是支持你的,不過你賣的那隻是中國紅,全球應該只有88只。如果我是品牌方,我會想為甚麼你要賣那麼有紀念性而且稀有的錶呢?其他款你要upgrade到金/玫瑰金是無可厚非,難道你的collection就真的容不下那一只?這也難免會讓人聯想當初其實你沒那麼喜歡那只錶,只是因為炒價厲害而購入,或者是你需要賣掉這錶去購入新的錶。你賣錶是絕對沒問題的,我覺得是個人自由,但是很難說賣了錶(還是那麼限量的一只)而且作為公眾人物post到ig上,還要品牌方將你視為VIP。我作為小小的collector,也去過一些你口中的event,如果我跟其他錶友交流的時候知道他們會賣來賣去我會滿驚訝的。我自己來說是不會買沒那麼喜歡的錶,也不會因為自己品味的改變而賣掉,因為每一只都有紀念的價值。我覺得可能這是收藏的時候角度不一樣。你絕對沒錯,但作為錶友,我也能明白品牌,其實很多人投訴拿不到錶也是因為錶販泛濫。很簡單,你賣沒問題,但品牌是很難認同這種行為的。如果品牌為你make an exceptional case,這樣錶販就能跟品牌說,王陽明不是賣了那兩只錶,還是VIP的status,為甚麼他們不能繼續買AP的錶去炒賣?以上是小小的意見,我明白很多人看不慣現在很多AP PP的做法,也很不滿他們的態度,但是不買也是大家的自由,所以我覺得都不用勉強,自己開心就好。
讓我想到國中的時候,很喜歡王陽明,某天跟同學到金銀帝國,排著隊進去想要逛逛,剛好看到王陽明在裡面,我超興奮的跑過去說「可以跟你合照嗎?」,結果他低頭看著我,沒說什麼話,眼神示意工作人員,馬上有人過來說「有消費才能拍照喔」 Obviously, AP doesn’t care, just like you didn’t care back then
i am with you buddy. i was in an exact same situation. ap offered me a pair of special watches, a 15407ST and 15466BC in 2019. i took them, but i sold them later on, coz me not that into AP’s skeleton watches. weeks after, they called me and went thru exactly what they did to you. i was so pissed off. from that point, me not walking into a single AP store. they tried to re-engage after a year. i was like fxxk-off. i am the customer who paid for my watches. i can do whatever i want. no more AP for me. sold them all.
Thanks for this video, this is exactly what I've been feeling these past few years with my journey with AP. Love the brand, but hate the game they play. I'm nowhere near your status nor a VIP, but did get a few allocations of RO, and have a few from grey market. It's basically begging them to spend your hard earned money, and passively dictating what you can and can't do with your AP. There are many other brands and things in life that will appreciate and respect me as a customer, and not lose sleep over it. You mentioned at the end that the Marvel collab is ridiculous, and bravo for putting this out there. We have so many KOLs and local FB groups trying to kiss ass by praising how great of a watch that was. Imagine spending that amount of money, and have to lie to get brownie points with your SA. That's why I'm walking away from them, just sold 2 AP recently. If I get an allocation - great. If they never give me anything again, that's fine. So many other things to enjoy, and spend my money on. Keep up the great work, hope you find your passion in the watch journey.
Since AP took over the retail stores worldwide, they have been doing worse and worse. Singapore has one of the worst retail shop based on my experience of 10 years collecting watches. They need to step up their game or customers are start looking elsewhere.
@geeeforce Жыл бұрын
Singapore definitely has the worst AP boutiques. MBS store is the worst. These clowns working there really think they are the boss
@kiatography22 Жыл бұрын
Singapore's AP is f-ed up. They will straight up reject you at the door if you dont have any appointment made. Making an appointment involves calling their hotline which gets routed to their overseas call centre and you need to attempt 4-5 times before they finally put through an appointment (language barrier?). The SA whom I left my interest with left and for 2 years, I didn't know and was messaging an empty number, no one handover my profile to someone else and my 2 years of wait went to naught.
@AssimilateSOG Жыл бұрын
@@kiatography22 yup, i got rejected at the door straight away haha
I’m done with AP as well. I’ve had a couple of QC issues with my 15450 that required it going back to AP twice. Secondly I was basically profiled when I tried to get in to the Costa mesa boutique a few months ago. I wasn’t dressed up but I was wearing a moser Streamliner. They lady just stared at me and told me “appt only”. There was one person in the store, I just wanted to look around. Moving on, happy with my pateks and Mosers.
1. 我自己擁有的錶從來沒有賣,都一直收藏著。但別人有些錶不戴了,拿去做買賣換錶我認為十分正常。 2. 但願品牌能分辨出一個人出售的原因是否在炒賣套利,還是真正的藏家錶友,但對品牌來說是有夠難的。 3. 假如patek philippe 發現你名下有手錶出售轉名,你也一樣會上黑名單。 4. AP近幾年是不是透過代工RM賺了很多,而令他們變得越來越挑客戶,只保留一些董事長、企業家級別的客戶呢? 5. 難看的AP 又何止黑豹、蜘蛛俠... 可是丑的出品每個品牌都會有,也很個人。 6. 財產是自己的,我們他媽的自己愛怎樣就怎樣。 7. Sunny, you are good and really a watch collector. Peace! ❤
@alanwong5688 Жыл бұрын
Bro well said. I don’t own any Royal Oaks yet, but I’ve been spending my money on very interesting Independents (Grossman, Lang & Heyne, Grönefeld). But regarding this story, I’m known in my group as the hand wound platinum guy. I bought one Omega 321 In platinum, and they sent me gifts for 2 years, invited me to VIP dinners, and an all expenses paid trip to Switzerland. I keep thinking, how does this one watch make them enough to pay for all this shit? 😂
@rongxilu181 Жыл бұрын
We all should not be controlled by any brand! My man!! I can still remember when I wanted to buy a Rolex, and I went to the store and asked if this is a possibility to buy one or even to be at the Waiting list , the waiter just looked at me and said “ this is Rolex.” I will never forget that face!! I may not looked rich but this is not a reason to be treated like that. If we are not being respected, why should we respect any of their products! Big support for U ! !
@uniballken Жыл бұрын
You release finally, good job man, congratulations
@nicolo21987 Жыл бұрын
Horoloupe is a BIG AP Ambassador/influencer that actually has a brick and mortar store that resales APs, yet he continously receives hard to get allocations. Not sure, how AP stands with this ... but if a guy like him are allowed to have a secondary market, why is it people like Sunny (and worst ... ordinary people like myself on the lower totem pole) not able to resell them if we have fallen out of love with that particular piece.
@0105-d9y Жыл бұрын
I also asked the same question and he doesn't sell his own APs according to my SA. He only sells other people's APs. LOL
Love the video, your honesty and transparency is really appreciated.
@stanleyyip9327 Жыл бұрын
I understand from Ap’s perspective that they only want qualified people wearing their watches. They produce limited watches and reserve for their vips, the vips are the ones who keep their watches for their next generations like pp. The whole game is frustrating but I also understand that they want to try their best to select their customers also.
The most real vid post so far on this issue of big watch brands blackmailing the EQ of all out there that love watches. No brand should ever blackmail its clients and you have gained my respect for BEING REAL. BST rgds and subscribed!
Thanks for sharing. I’m totally with you. Owners should be holding their rights to do whatever they want to their watches. The way the current watch industry is “managed” has changed significantly. Since the demand is so overwhelmed, the focus on watches shifted to exclusivity from production to ownership. I like how you end the video with mentioning you shouldn’t have worried about commenting a watch. I think the same phenomenon is impacting all aspects of our lives in today’s society😢.
Although I have never gone through the steps to be considered a VIP like Sunny here, I can understand and feel the frustration for sure; he clearly had the passion and love for the brand and have spent tons of money, time and energy to amass such an impressive collection. Much respect to Sunny for voicing out his frustration. Having said that though, this collection is amazing and I personally would not sell them, but if the brand and the watches are bringing so much negative feelings then I guess there's always other options, just like Sunny said, it's his property.