Empiricism Skeptic Implodes Catastrophically

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[@abbyarsenault3248]

It’s always as good day when you get a 1 hour + planet Peterson video

[@ChickenHunter08]

Same! Love the long ones!

[@chrispysaid]

@@ChickenHunter08

[@jamesgalliher4640]

I love how he was soooo close to saying “yeah if you use it *as* a fork” at first but caught himself last second lol

[@cajohnson130]

People like this mistake confidence for intelligence.

[@richardb7495]

Wwwooowwwwww guest JR got cornered more times than a mouse trying to escape a maze 😂😂❤

[@happilyeggs4627]

Some of us are pre-determined to believe the truth when convinced. This is how with no free will we can change our minds.

[@silverdrago6399]

What

[@ItsRJC123]

Like it’s just that simple. Like they act as if they’re wrong empiricism now creates la la land where god exists lmaoooo

[@happilyeggs4627]

@@ItsRJC123 Not sure who your comment is directed at.

[@happilyeggs4627]

@@silverdrago6399 I'm sorry. Maybe you are a speaker of some other language than English.

[@GodEqualstheSquaRootof-1]

Presuppositional Apologetics seems like one of the 5 stages of 'Acceptance'; it's kind the middle ground between Anger and Bargaining.

[@rsjcoman9230]

Its refreshing to hear the Orthodox perspective get smacked down. Its mystical woowoo that usually flies under the radar

[@DarkAesthetics33]

Complete deflection so they dont have to defend their whacky biblical stories

[@EricusXIV]

It's very entertaining to witness someone who completely lacks comprehension of their own arguments, confidently asserting intellectual superiority while being, in reality, three steps behind their interlockutor. The claim of humility - hilarious! - seems particularly incongruent with such assertions.

[@SabracadabrO]

Presuppositional Dumbologic 🤪

[@aaronrandall1465]

He "chooses" to believe things. DONE.

[@Detson404]

Yeah, that’s literally make-believe.

[@rylanasher4756]

Whenever your fine interlocutor said the word "what!?" ... he knew he was guffed philosophically.

[@planetpeterson2824]

I'm not married to the idea that everything is derived empirically, but I've also never heard very good arguments against it. Certainly not from this dufus. Kant proposed a solution to the whole empiricism vs rationalism debate. Kant, observing the limitations of both approaches, argued that while all our knowledge begins with experience, not all of it arises from experience. He proposed that our understanding of the world is shaped by both the sensory experiences we have and the ways our minds actively structure these experiences. According to Kant, the human mind has innate structures and categories (like causality, time, and space) that help in processing sensory data, but these structures themselves don't derive from sensory experience. Kant's idea (the way I understand it... I could be wrong) is that knowledge is not just about our minds conforming to the world, but also about the world conforming to the structures of our minds. This allowed Kant to argue that while we can have certain, a priori knowledge of how the world appears to us, we cannot have knowledge of things as they are in themselves. HOWEVER, to me, this just describes ideas and methods that come from the brain. I feel as though you have to assume the mind is some incorporeal non-physical thing to grant that rationalism is a source outside of the senses.

[@nicholasbanton]

While science lacks a complete explanation for consciousness, all our observations link it to physical brain activity. Solutions to the hard problem that lack physical grounding remain philosophical arguments, often rooted in incredulity.

[@SuperChickenBurgers]

Yeh, the way we structure our experiences don't rely on a non physical mind OR a physical mind, it could be one or the other

[@SuperChickenBurgers]

​​​@@nicholasbanton Our observations of consciousness are rooted in the fact that we are alive, in a body with a brain. The only way we will ever know if consciousness is linked to those things or not is when we die (I guess if it is linked then we won't ever know, but if not, then we will). Therefore the observations cannot link it to the physical, nor the non physical.

[@Darkloid21]

Well that was then though. Since his time we’ve pretty much prove this stuff is all the brain and that futzing with the brain can change everything about a person. So the mind isn’t apart from the brain.

[@Darkloid21]

@@SuperChickenBurgersWell that’s wrong. We have linked consciousness to the physical brain, many times. Consciousness is literally a brain function. We can even turn it off with a drug while you are still alive, in fact it happened to me once.

[@madara211000]

If God is omniscient and he designed the universe and everything that exists within it, which includes the choices we make, then everything we do is determined already. God knows with absolute certainty the actions we'll take, regardless of the choices we have. It's the illusion of free will, your choices have already been made. So the guest absolutely disagrees fundamentally with his own argument that determinism is flawed because of some inherent contradiction but then agrees that God is omniscient which leads to determinism. It's pretty much special pleading, "It's okay when God does it".

[@EricusXIV]

Very stringently put 👍🏼

[@displacegamer1379]

15:00 I think the real issue is that he thinks determinism is a process that leads to true beliefs. So if he's determined and you're determined and both your beliefs are different than determinism led to two different true beliefs which would be contradictory to each other. I think that's what he actually believes.

[@CeezGeez]

that dunning kruger laugh always gets me 😂

[@Mxxx-ii9bu]

Peterson's guest thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. And he is when he is alone.

[@zeusnjeff]

Trust me, I have interacted with the guest. He’s not the smartest in the room even when he’s alone. 😂😂😂

[@Mxxx-ii9bu]

Wow, that thick, huh?!?

[@celiand2618]

Well if I am to believe what he says, he never is alone in a room.

[@uncleanunicorn4571]

If He were smarter, He would know that his trinitarian model of God was a political compromise. Hammered out at a church council to resolve the arian controversy. Divine revelation requires dozens of men doing backroom politics.

[@lubrew5862]

The dude had problems following his own argument and keeping it straight through a single sentence. But I have heard many people, some theists, who watch to a couple KZbin about free will and then think they can prove it. It always just turns into a failed attempt at mental wankery.

[@Extraterrestrial-Bilu]

"You have no basis for reason because you can reason incorrectly, I have a revelation from god. Oh how I know what god revealed? I use my reason."

[@Soapy-chan]

worse, he knows what god revealed by asking his priest

[@aaronlietz]

"I'm just going to parrot Greg Bahnsen and Cornelius Van Til (grandfathers of presupp) and hope you don't notice."

[@steventhompson399]

Eww gross, I hate it! Presupp is terrible 🤮🤮🤮

[@nicholasbanton]

Yet again, an apologetics screed devolves into dismantling the very foundations of intelligibility to prop up unfalsifiable claims. It boils down to: "If my worldview is false or unsupported, then nobody can know anything." BTW, the answer to his knowledge test is novel testable predictions i.e. the scientific process.

[@commentary2378]

It's always a mess when you talk with an empiricism skeptic.

[@matic.m]

I found it funny how man to man saying the word ejaculate means one is gay 😂

[@cybitner6159]

"We both live in the same world" I'm not so sure we do, I'm not living in a fantasy land 🤣

[@nio804]

I think "free will" can be explained as an abstraction. It doesn't exist as a fundamental thing, but the human experience is not a fundamental thing either; on our level of abstraction, free will might as well exist because we can't tell the difference between free will and no free will.

[@displacegamer1379]

35:07 If God knows what you're going to do tomorrow, and then you do something other than what God knows, then God doesn't know all. Not only does God not know all, it also means God can be wrong. And you don't want to go down the path of what it means if God could be wrong about something.

[@studiooriginals]

His misunderstanding of determinism is even worse than you thought. He was saying determinism causes your thoughts and his therefore they must be the same. He thinks determinists believe all similar systems are determined identically. By that logic a ball bouncing and a rock not bouncing is a contradiction as they are both "caused by the same process"

[@joeldobbs7396]

One hour plus of Peterson smacking around some junior apologist, lovely. The way some people think about determinism is silly. None of them acknowledge that experience is part of the causal path that leads to thought. Different people, different paths, different thoughts. I understand this and I break glass for a living. The whole "no free will=no law, no point in living, no love, etc" argument is ridiculous too. Just because it doesn't feel like your thoughts are deterministic does doesn't mean they aren't . How would you know? Why would you care? If it was proven to your satisfaction that free will did not exist would you suddenly become paralyzed and fall into a void of nihilism? No?

[@TwoForFlinchin1]

Perhaps it's my autism speaking but my main gripe with religion isn't with the entertainment of beliefs that aren't true because I do that all the time, it's with the absolute disregard for the person you're talking to in the subjective relationship that they have with words. When he talks it doesn't matter how contradictory his statements are or how many meanings they could possibly have you're just supposed to pick the one that let's you agree with him

[@zachthehunter]

That mind, body, noose thing bugged me. He was saying that the noose is a metaphysical organ like the mind but that doesn't mean they're the same thing. Kinda like how all ants are insects, but not all insects are ants. And I've got no idea what the "noose" is.

[@miskatonic_alumni]

Nous is a Greek word for mind.

[@louseveryann2181]

In the same line as in the thumbnail: "Respect is earned, not given away." "NO IT'S NOT. It is given away!" "Oh yeah?" "Yes. To people who have earned it." I rest my case.

[@danieldelanoche2015]

I don't really know why people still have the "free will" debate. Either we make decisions for reasons, or we do not make decisions for reasons. If we make decisions for reasons, the reasons determined our decisions, not our "free will". if we do not make decisions for reasons, our decisions are made through random chaos, not through our free will. "Free will" is a nonsense term.

[@MileHighInTheSky]

2,000 years from now, archaeologists will uncover a fork, and some old grandma will insist it was designed to knit fingers for gloves.

[@rsjcoman9230]

You mean a dinglehopper?

[@BaronVonQuiply]

Thus the prophecy was told, both today, and a century ago when Germany adopted the phrase _"Gott Mittuns"_ (they had that before the mustache guy, just so everyone knows)

[@Idellphany]

I wonder how he would feel if he was zapped back into time when no one believed the earth was round lol.

[@sonny8456]

GOT ME GOING IN CIRCLES , whoa oh oh whoooaaa!😂

[@nio804]

40:20 He previously said God is not bound by the laws of logic but now he can't contradict himself? What? Does this guy listen to his own words?

[@lustrazor44]

The part where he “chose to believe god doesn’t exist” got me dead. That shit was hilarious. What an idiot.

[@displacegamer1379]

25:56 I don't even know what he's arguing this. He's a Christian, and assuming he holds a standard view of Christianity, he thinks God knows everything. Not only does God know everything he knows exactly what will happen. So if God knows exactly what will happen everything is already predetermined in God's eyes. There are no choices in God's eyes.

[@kentspeak465]

Yeah but he did not think about that beforehand and he doesnt like that one of many fatal flaws in in his reasoning but he already started acting all smug about it years ago, having built such a high opinion of himself over the years he cannot accept he might be wrong even less admit it directly,so this results in last minute very dumb adjustement to his discourse rendering it even more confused and fallacious than before ,but he runs with it hoping nobody will catch on and he can save face...or not ,maybe I dont know lol

[@David34981]

I mean, when I switch on a light, and my neighbor does the same, does that mean that electricity powering a lamp is non-physical?

[@David34981]

It's a textbook category error. When I have two identical objects, they are not literally "the same" (one) object. The same goes for thoughts, concepts, ideas, etc. We as humans "share" these concepts, through reason and communication. Thoughts would not exist without brains that can hold them (and communicate about them!).

[@jonasdahlbeck3243]

Very entertaining! Thank you Erik! 😁

[@mefistoteteles-5099]

I find it hilarious that some people are so afraid that something they said/believed was wrong. I have learned a long time ago, that if I was never wrong, I wouldn't have learnt most of what I know right now.

[@powercheese2580]

Some days I wish I was a little bit smarter than I am, some days i'm just glad I am not as fucking stupid as JR.

[@ianchisholm5756]

'We have divine revelation, which is the only way to knowledge. But we check with the priest that it's correct.'

[@fletch0t]

Just me who spent way too much time giggling at you both saying “a noose”?😂

[@odiethe4th]

"man has the capacity of higher thinking" Jr is a refutation of this statement.

[@albertocpr]

Haha! I did not knew JR was Boricua, se le salió el “cabrón” 😂.

[@wilberforce1826]

I hate TAG so much. The only way it possibly works is to start out as a platonist, because you have to assume that reason is an immaterial yet extant thing in some realm. It's how they try to get to their "transcendental necessity" thing, which is just stupid. My critique, as a former English teacher... Nouns are things that exist. Verbs are not. Reason is both a noun and a verb. One can reason to a conclusion (verb), and one can have a reason to do things (noun). One can run (verb), one can go for a run (noun). One can throw (verb), one can say "what a great throw" (noun). One can act (verb) in the third act (noun) of a play (noun), while the kids play (verb) outside. Is "run" an extant thing? Is "throw?" OF COURSE NOT. The same goes for reason. The only necessary precondition for those noun/verbs is that there be an extant thing capable of doing so. There is no "transcendent" thing necessary. The same thing goes for reason. All that's required is that an extant thing have the capacity to engage in the act. TAG is nothing but a word game used by debate bros. Coincidentally, they are the only people in the US I have ever heard describe themselves as eastern orthodox. This is almost certainly because no one else is this hemisphere is likely to be at all familiar with the doctrines, so they can always make sh*t up and no one will be any the wiser. TL;DR TAG is stupid and dishonest, and should not be taken seriously by anyone.

[@Petticca]

So many religious people, armed with a crash- course in vaguely described philosophical concepts, and apologist obfuscation 101, out there on the internet, somehow talking themselves into multiple corners, while standing in a circular room. It's impressive how consistently they do it.

[@glenntaylor1834]

This is a master class!!! JR was no match for you. JR needs to go back to school.

[@scorptrio8231]

I love how the caller just laughs defensively when Peterson drops truth on him.

[@CalinoFG]

This was one of the „ funiest/best“ videos that i saw so far from you Eric ( and i saw many😂)!

[@Scrapla1]

What nonsense is he regurgitating? He made a lovely word salad and I'm trying to figure out what grifter he heard all this from.

[@dansmith7009]

It’s a bad version of presuppositional apologetics word salad. Where they argue that you can’t absolutely believe anything is true without an ultimate grounding for it, and they want there to be things that are absolutely true, and therefore you need to assume that there is a god in order for logic to apply to the universe. And they just keep asking versions of “prove reality is real if you don’t think there is a god!” And then claim *they* know reality is real because god revealed it to them. And then dodge the question of what sense they used to detect god and how they know that is real.

[@Andy_Babb]

Stoked for the long video

[@jamesgalliher4640]

A man says to the planet, “Sir I exist.”

[@bdpickett]

I think a better metaphor than a fork would be a DVD. The exact same movie exists on thousands of DVDs in the same way that commonly taught concepts like Arabic numerals exist in multiple brains.

[@artsyomni]

Here’s the problem: this person is conflating “choice” with “free will.” Even if people don’t have free will, they still have the ability to consider choices. It’s just that the decision we ultimately come to between any given choices was inevitable based on all of the parameters that feed into making that decision. We have the perception of free will. It’s just an illusion that emerges from all of the mechanisms that create our consciousness.

[@JR-kn6rs]

It always makes me sad hearing these people think so hard

[@RecRoomRon]

Does JR want some salt to go with that pretzel he’s twisted himself into?

[@LanceHall]

If the dude was right then we are just a bunch of spiritual chickens being raised to feed God.

[@imcarlabee]

Just ordered a copy of your book!

[@jareth1987]

"Nous" (νους) is just the greek word for mind...

[@DarkAesthetics33]

Nous is the mind of the heart

[@SleepyMatt-zzz]

Amazing how religious people believe in freewill when their ideology naturally leads to deterministic thinking. They believe morality is deterministic, they believe how being born with sin is deterministic, they believe your destiny is deterministic.

[@LanceHall]

That dude must be fun at parties.

[@CrashOverride007]

Great video like usual. I agree with most things PP says but as a fellow atheist I never understood the anti-free will argument that seems to be a newer part of atheists i see online. I always liked hitchens response to the question of free will, of course we have it we don’t have a choice.

[@ziploc2000]

I also don't get this "we don't have free will" argument. It;'s like the "we could all be brains in a vat" argument. I don't think and act as if I'm a brain in a vat, and I feel and act as if I have free will. I frequently have thoughts I don't act on. If I'm supposed to be just reacting to my brain chemistry, why do I always feel like I'm making the decisions?

[@Rugg-qk4pl]

The free will argument is pointless. Yes free will: I make choices. No free will: I still make choices but on a Supreme high level it's already made. So what? They both produce identical worlds.

[@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761]

It just Amazing how crazy Thise amarican Christians sounds like.... greetings from Skandinavia Denmark 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰

[@Detson404]

This is why we need a true national education system.

[@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761]

@@Detson404 yes, it is important, health care for all too.. it seems expensive, but it is really not,...but the most important thing, is that you can Trust your government,... every Body can make mistakes and some you just cant trust....it is a balance on a knife Edge.... I pay 40% in taxes here in Danmark 🇩🇰 and i pay a low tax here ( cos of my income), but it is okay, i get security for a lot...

[@Detson404]

@@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761 Yes I completely agree but there’s a lot of entrenched interests and inertia opposed to healthcare reform.

[@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761]

@@Detson404 yes, it is not easy....

[@AndyAshenden]

The fork question should be this: Is the concept of a fork something real and is it other than the physical objects we call “forks”? Apply this analogy to “thoughts” now. You can see that, by analogy, he argued that a thought is something that can exist both non-instantiated in matter and instantiated in matter. If two forks can be made of stainless steel, there is an “immaterial” fork (an idea) that exists. It also exists as a physical instantiation of that concept. This could mean that the concept of fork exists outside of our minds, or that we created the concept of fork. Since he argues that we only know through our senses, it seems that we are able to grasp concepts via our senses. How is that possible? Certainly this is not done by sense perception ALONE.

[@Detson404]

My computer is completely determined but 2 computers can disagree. They have different programming, different data. Nothing about determinism means knowledge is impossible.

[@AlGhoul]

This guy said his god isn't bound by logic, when he said his god can be both imminent (present in the universe) and transcendental (present outside of the universe) at the same time in the same way (thus violating all of the laws of identity, excluded middle, and non-contradiction), but then said his god can't contradict himself. He also calls concepts "principles" (such as the "principle of oneness", which is merely the concept of oneness, as there is no principle of oneness. Also, pet peeve, but he said that "now that I can explicate myself" as if explicate meant explain... He does this a lot, actually. He uses words incorrectly. He also uses words as buzzwords (using them incorrectly in an attempt to impress others). And he conflates things (when Peterson said this guy appeals to empiricism, the guy responds by sarcastically asking if Peterson is saying talking to a priest is science; Peterson corrects him, but he seems to not understand he conflated empiricism as being science, rather than recognizing that science uses empiricism, and even then, science doesn't exclusively rely on sense-experience, as it does hold, to some degree, the principles of rationalism and skepticism, which are competing epistemologies of a purely empiricism philosophy, but science balances them all, but at the heart of it, we still have to collect sensory input to verify if our models match reality).

[@sonny8456]

Guest thinks , u can belive that radioactive waste Is less harmful then water 😂

[@breadfan7433]

Even if you don't accept determinism, you don't choose what you believe. You become convinced, or you don't. You can only choose what you *say* you believe. If you believe in a god, you can say "for the next 5 seconds I won't believe in a god", but you don't actually choose to not believe in a god. I can't choose to believe that my father is a vampire, or that I'm 10ft tall, or that the moon is made of cheese. I can't choose to not believe what I believe, even for my most mundane and inconsequential beliefs. The only thing that slightly resembles choosing what you believe is refusing to listen to people who argue against what you believe (which is what some theists do all the time).

[@DoctorX101]

The earliest version of the aqedah or "binding" of Isaac has him disappear from the story, and his father walks down alone. Scholars have known and commented upon this for only about seventy years. There are tons of demands for child sacrifice, it is just that people like this guy do not read those parts.

[@miskatonic_alumni]

And there's the other human sacrifice in the eleventh chapter of Judges, as well as modern pop culture's most famous human sacrifice, Jesus. One could also argue that acts of mass homicide that have been explicitly condoned in the name of the Abrahamic god also count as a form of human sacrifice since those people were slain under the belief that a god wanted them to perish. So even though Abrahamic theists claim that their god doesn't accept human sacrifice, their histories make it clear that their moral frameworks do not prevent them from perpetrating atrocities in his name, even as their scriptures paint a portrait of a god who delights in the scent of burnt flesh and the slaughter of four and two-legged animals.

[@DoctorX101]

@@miskatonic_alumni That is just a few. Strange enough, in Jeremiah, there is attempt to acknowledge but distance from the demand for sacrifices: Jeremiah 19:5-6: Jer 19:5-6:They have built shrines to Baʿal [בַּעַל], to put their children to the fire as burnt offerings to Baʿal --which I never commanded, never decreed, and which never came into My mind. Assuredly, a time is coming--declares the YHWH--when this place shall not longer be called Topeth or Valley of Benihinnom ["Valley of the son of Hinnom" in RSV.--Ed.], but Valley of Slaughter. This is continued in Ezekiel: Ezek 20:25-26: Moreover I [YHWH] gave them statutes that were not good and ordinances by which they could not have life; and I defiled them through their very gifts in making them offer by fire all their first-born, that I might horrify them; I did it that they might know I am YHWH.

[@heiyuall]

“Dudebruh,” isn’t an argument.

[@Robbie_the_Rabbit]

JR: *teeheehee hehheh*

[@Detson404]

The lord is imminent and transcendent, he penetrates the mind, body, and anous… sometimes more than once if he’s feeling frisky.

[@Detson404]

Gotta love presup.

[@anthonyzav3769]

How do immaterial substances solve anything?

[@Bunny99s]

This guy desperately wants things to be binary. Either you believe it or not. It reminds me of that Tim Minchin song: "The Fence" which is exactly about that urge to "split the world into two clean columns". It's sad how close minded those people are.

[@kentspeak465]

Metaphysical organ,one is called a-nus 😌yep

[@DarkAesthetics33]

Imma steal this one 🥷

[@DarkAesthetics33]

Imma steal this one 🥷

[@Wheres_the_money_lebowski]

Guy has 2 braincells fighting for third place.

[@compositionxi]

4:41 literally the easiest analogy possible and he just laughs at it🤣 2 different brains can think the same thing just like 2 different forks can be made of the same thing. but then it’s “comparing forks to thoughts” bc he knows it makes him look dumb🤣

[@displacegamer1379]

29:27 The universe is random, It's still be a fact that there's a universe. And that fact would be constant.

[@danielhamid5569]

39 MINUTES IN i REALISE THERE IS NO HOPR FOR JR

[@johnr3882]

Simply ask him to change a belief at Will.

[@adriannabcustomfurniture]

Don't try to listen to this if you already have a migraine 😵‍💫😵 it hurts to listen to this guest speak. He doesnt know how to form a sentence that makes any sense 🤦🏻‍♀️ oh my god. My head hurts more now than it did 4 minutes ago 🫨

[@ghurcbghurcb]

Yes, science works with determinism. Let's say there is an image recognition AI that differentiates cats from dogs. I'm sure, everyone would agree, that this AI has no free will. Science is like a good image recognition model. Sure, when you show a picture to this AI the outcome is predetermined, but using a good model this AI can be PREDETERMINED to differentiate cats from dogs more reliably. The same with people. Our choices and evaluations are predetermined, but if we use better reasoning, we are more likely to be predetermined to be correct. (whether or not you use good reasoning is also predetermined, but that's beside the point)

[@TheTrueMendoza]

I'm the guy in the video. Let's run it back.

[@melbied6215]

If you are, have you done any philosophical research on what determinism is and the fact that logic and mathematics are languages?

[@Darkloid21]

Well no free will doesn’t mean argument is pointless. That’s actually why you’re arguing, because that information and influence other people. You don’t control what convinces people but if you state your case you can hope it does. I’ll admit I always get lost when it comes to the concept stuff like when you talked about the fork. Stuff like that goes over my head a lot.

[@doranku]

Abraham is a bad example of human sacrifices, there are actual human sacrifices the christian deity accepts (Jephtah's daughter).

[@ezbody]

Or, the most obvious one - Jesus.

[@rabbitpirate]

Can two computers have a concept of a number 1? Obviously so, but that doesn't mean those two computers share the same atoms, of even that their hardware is such that the operate in the exact way. Brains are the same. How is this hard??

[@displacegamer1379]

33:24 It kind of does. If God knows all knowledge, he knows every potential, but he knows every actual. To have all knowledge is to also know what will happen not just what has the potential to happen. So yes God would know exactly what is going to happen with exacting certainty.

[@johnferry7778]

One of your more interesting interlocutors.

[@ducking...]

I think this guy means that if we can mak a choice( like blue shirt or black) we have free will. Not understanding that those choice are whats predetermant.

[@joelodjick230]

I'd love to see PP go straight to the source of these people and take on MadebyJimbob or Jay Dyer

[@scorptrio8231]

Seldom have I heard such blatant immoral declarations than from that caller. He worships pure evil and is proud of it.

[@explodingtiger]

This is an interesting topic to ponder. We humans seem to have some kind of agency. We seem to make decisions. I don’t think this is incompatible with a determinist universe because our decisions are not free from our previous experience and our direct and indirect history. there does seem to be one outcome to the unfolding of the universe, or another way of thinking of it is a series of heat states that follow according to how matter and energy interact. Since our brains are part of that matter and energy this is just a further example of the universe doing universe things.

[@ThePsyko420]

Dont go with Abraham...go with Jephtha....Jephtha sacrificed his daughter

[@randomnamegenerator8792]

36:10, the person you are talking to is A nus.

[@justadude7752]

40:30 ish: WAIT WHAT? I thought god doesnt need to care about logic. Didnt ya say he was above that? Why does he now suddenly need to not contradict himself? This dude reeeally is just making it up as he goes along...

[@patriceriksson7924]

I don't give a f*ck! I live my life and there are no jesus or muhammed talking to me ever.

[@fjoell]

This person thinks predetermined means "set in stone", predetermined just means we have no direct choice but are just physically influenced by what is happening around us. This means, contrary to his point that arguing in a predermined reality doesn't make sense because nobody can change their mind, you can be influenced to change your mind when presented with the right argument because that is how that information affects your brain. He thinks that we must choose to change our mind and can't be influenced by our environment to (without any choice) change our mind.

[@SchiwiM]

NOO, Planet was so wrong around minute 13 it was crazy, you jumped into a wrong conclusion because of a misunderstanding :( When 2 people come to different thoughts (when their 2 beliefs are contradictory!) then the answer is to go into the real world and test the 2 different hypothesis with experiments.

[@yourguard4]

02:55 Energy has no mass?

[@user-dw6xm4io1u]

I mean, electrons definitely do, even if it's effectively nothing