Quantum Mysticism is Stupid (Deepak Chopra, Spirit Science, Actualized.org)

[@owlroseproductions8876]

Our philosophy teacher in high school showed us "What the Bleep do we Know" and asked us to do a PowerPoint presentation on it. She didn't specify the length of the presentation, only the talking points: who were the people that worked on it, who were the people that talked on it and what can we learn. Thanks to a member of our team, we found out the people working on the "documentary" were linked to a cult and we prepared an hour long presentation on why everything was bollocks and why everyone said what they said and did what they did, including when was the cult formed, why it was a cult, why and how the documentary only showed what the cult wanted and how they used the common person's misunderstanding of science against them. To this day the best essay and presentation I've done.

[@jijonbreaker]

I feel like there has to be more payoff to this story. Was it intended as being taken seriously, and if so, I need to know the reactions to what must have been that masterpiece of an essay.

[@owlroseproductions8876]

@@jijonbreaker well, as most real stories, the payoff is not that big. It was really awesome that the other groups just praised the documentary because they thought "if the teacher showed it to us it must be good" and we were the last group to present. Our presentation lasted 1 hour 15 minutes, and our teacher still asks us to make it for their new students. After we had done our presentation, classes went as normal but the topic of that trimester was "Science, pseudoscience and philosophy".

[@jijonbreaker]

@@owlroseproductions8876 Excellent

[@tweer64]

I now want to see the presentation.

[@KNylen]

@@tweer64 or at least just the essay

[@epicninjali3640]

Chopra : “There are no electromagnetic fields, molecules or atoms. They are all a human construct” Me, a Chemistry Undergrad : “guess I’ll just imagine a better yield for my lab then.”

[@armando_barreda]

@queerdo That's what these mystics claim.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Queerdo, no, actually your comment is a perfect illustration o the problem with mystics. The OP is an ideal demonstration of how this fantastical thinking does not correlate with reality, spoken from someone who actually interfaces with the physical world for a living. Scientists do science, so they know what is incompatible with reality. Then you just come along and say "nuh uh because you don't get it", as though you have any business weighing in at all. Just stop. Get an education.

[@melancall5960]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains I’ve studied astronomy, chemistry, physics, the whole deal and I can’t help but roll my eyes every time someone introduces themselves as a “Sagittarius”

[@deensama7718]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains i think he's trying to make a point about philosophy, although i really don't understand WHY he's making the point lol. it's true that in philosophy and especially metaphysics there is discussion about the nature of phenomena that isn't easily observable. there's a clear line from metaphysics discussions to pseudoscience that elucidates the lack of understanding on the part of laymen about what exactly philosophers mean when they stuff like "electromagnetic fields are a human construct". to the laymen, which obviously would include scientists who have no knowledge of philosophy nor the context in which certain philosophical discussions are taking place, this can legitimately sound like "electromagnetic fields don't exist and humans made it up", but that's not necessarily what is intended nor what is being claimed. this gets extremely clear when you go beyond metaphysics (which is why i don't like talking about metaphysics much, it's something that is super inaccessible to people unwilling or unable to entertain highfalutin theoretical ideas about the nature of reality and how we can make sense of that in the real world outside of theory) and into stuff like epistemology or even linguistics. when philosophers in these areas talk about things like constructs and the nature of reality or even of how we conceptualize physical phenomena, they're essentially laying out their philosophical position ahead of time about how we build our languages and concepts from a fundamental level. that is to say that most of these kinds of conversations are talking about something that many of us take for granted, such as how we come to use the words we do to describe physical phenomena and what that actually means in the realm of philosophy. much of the time in philosophy contexts that you see people discussing the nature of reality or being critical of scientifically verifiable phenomena they're not actually discussing the phenomena itself, but how we arrive at the point where we can test these phenomena and the lens that we use to interpret the results. it's often a commentary ultimately on methodology, not necessarily on any given specific experiment but on how we construct meaning at all and furthermore how we communicate it to one another. because so much of this type of abstract conversation has a totally different meaning when ripped of its context, we end up seeing the terms from it horribly misused by conmen and people who don't understand what they're hearing who then repeat it inappropriately until it eventually turns into a complete mischaracterization of the arguments and what they're meant to be proving. hopefully this wasn't too droll to read because i'm not entirely sure if i'm properly communicating what i'm trying to say. tl;dr i think the commenter was trying to make a point about how people misuse philosophy terminology and how it can easily convey the wrong message when ripped of its philosophical context, although i don't know why he was blaming scientists for that occurring lol. i mean it is true that scientists are often just as vulnerable to getting the wrong impression about certain terminology and where it comes from, but that isn't because they're wrong or dumb, it's because the arguments and concepts are being presented to them completely and totally devoid of their original contexts and effectively transformed into meaningless gobbledygook

[@deensama7718]

just to be super clear by the way: saying something like "electromagnetic fields are a human construct, and so are molecules and atoms" and "i believe electromagnetic fields, atoms and molecules are observable and verifiable by science and thus real in the colloquial sense" aren't actually contradictory viewpoints. one is a commentary on epistemology and language, the other is a plain statement of their beliefs which are in line with the scientific consensus. hopefully that makes the wall of text i wrote up a little more understandable >

[@TheReaper569]

"your child isnt real, he becomes infinite when you are not looking" *Breaking news* : Grown man fails object permanence.

[@gonb5434]

Can confirm, looked at a kid behind me in the mirror, saw naught but the endless void

[@ivoryas1696]

@@Slava_Ukraini1991 The Onion? sounds _juicy!_ 😋

[@LoisoPondohva]

@@gonb5434 stay woke, don't let the little demons of extraneous meta-void lull us into the false sense of security.

[@mytigger1957]

🤔. My child sounds real enough at this moment but she is downstairs and currently out of my line of sight. So is Leo’s “unreal disappearing infinity” something that only relates to light and not sound? 😄 Just insane

[@mjjoe76]

The absolute mess my child can make when I am not looking clearly disproves what Leo Gura is suggesting.

[@executiveegg4231]

Platonic solids, flower of life, musical systems… is this where Terrence Howard got his talking points?

[@shreyvarad]

pretty much

[@soniavecchini9658]

exactly what i thought, what a bunch of lunatics

[@vaiyt]

They all copy each other to some extent

[@andrew12bravo21]

This and a bunch of electric universe BS.

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

Exponential regression from that point onwards.

[@smashexentertainment676]

If you really want a crystal that emits real energy, feel free to pick a piece of graphite from Chernobyl.

[@coolbeans5911]

Vibe check

[@NoXion100]

*Geiger counter clicking intensifies*

[@JMartJr]

What about dilithium crystals??? There, run rings around you logically...

[@kronikkronolov9793]

Crystal meth, lol.

[@smashexentertainment676]

@@kronikkronolov9793 It doesn't emit energy, but there are definitely some funny crystals you can eat👍🏻👍🏻

[@aphthitos]

I remember a girl telling me how she manifested the knowledge she needed for her exam at the Uni through getting into the consciousness of another person who was an expert. I said, "Wow, such awesome powers! You can easily learn whatever language, or get into a physicist's head and actually learn some quantum physics!" She went like, "Yeah, but I cannot possibly learn such things like that! That's outside my domain" I said, "So, you're telling me that you can only learn the things you already know?" and she was sooo deeply offended.

[@Winasaurus]

That's the case with every 'manifestation' person. I always say "Do you think manifestation is real?" if yes "Why not just manifest the lottery numbers and live a happy life?". The answer is always "Well I can't do stuff like that, only things like changing my emotions and finding lost things", or "Manifestation is about so much more than money, I use it to get true happiness" copout bullshit. Just like the "Crystals heal you, but only if you think they will."

[@Winasaurus]

@@rahulprakaash3350 Such as? Any quotes? Any claims? Literally anything other than just saying the guys name?

[@connoc5078]

@@rahulprakaash3350 The claim that science can't prove god doesn't exists doesn't mean god *does* exist. This is not evidence that good scientists are "getting hints of spirituality in quantum physics".

[@malibuhiegts]

I dunno about manifestation, I've had some spooky coincidences that are a little too close for comfort, one day I was at work remembering about somone I worked with maybe 2-3 years prior, I remembered our days together what jobs we did etc, then I thought about his girlfriend who he had some trouble with, I had met her once when he dropped his kid off, very briefly, this was years ago, I finish my daydream and Carry on working, I get a Facebook friend request.... It was his fucking ex girlfriend, whom I had never spoken too, randomly 3 years later, on the very same day I thought about her for whatever unknown reason, I'm not saying I manifested it, but duck me the coincidence was almost too perfect

[@D-Vinko]

@@rahulprakaash3350 Dude you're so scientifically illiterate, you just say things that are unrelated and then make claims about atheism or whatever. Quantum mysticism isn't the opposite of atheism. Quantum mysticism is the opposite of science. Science and religion aren't mutually exclusive, you can practice one while believing the other.

[@CaptainCalculus]

I have a funny first-hand story about Chopra. He came to our University (he doesn't do that now) and spouted some BS. When I asked him about quantum physics and woo he went on his usual word salad, and ended that I was confused and should try to learn some quantum theory...which caused a great deal of mirth to my post-grad students (I teach mathematical physics, specialising in quantum experiments). Answers like this made the crowd more and more hostile to the point where he was essentially run off stage.

[@rileymack1489]

@@keithboynton sadly, it wasn't recorded, as observing it would ruin the lighting

[@spandanganguli6903]

Before anyone says this is fake, professors do have these kinds of discussions. In my first year of college, we had a seminar where the presenter and our dean just started arguing with each other. Went over my jead at that point though.

[@DulceN]

That Chopra is such a charlatan, the epitome of the snake oil salesman.

[@KnakuanaRka]

@@keithboynton Me too; I would give my right arm to watch that guy get clowned by a bunch of students. 😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣

[@pavel9652]

I think Sam Harris demolished Chopra in debate as well. Chopra was corrected and offered a quantum mechanics class by someone at the event, because it was in the vicinity of the university and the audience was full of PhDs, etc.

[@samg.5165]

"Scientists are so arrogant. There is so much we do not know. Anyway, here's my tortured interpretation of quantum mechanics, a topic that I have mastered completely even though I can barely wrap my head around high school physics."

[@rahrex]

such delicious irony

[@Kamawan0]

The first two sentences you wrote are correct. I think that as instrumentation and scientific methods improve over time, old ideas become replaced with new ones. We aren’t telling people to use mercury on their faces for makeup anymore, for example. And we now know the long term effects of smoking. It is healthy to approach everything with some kind of humility.

[@samg.5165]

​@@Kamawan0 Science evolves, no shit. But there's a bit of a leap between adapting to new evidence, and handwaving away the findings we don't like. In fact, they're exact opposites. Every instance of progress you've mentioned has been achieved through the scientific method, not the wisdom of Chopra.

[@Kamawan0]

@@samg.5165 That’s nice. I’m not defending Chopra, I already said what I did regarding some scientists being pompous. Those scientists need humility. I am talking about that.

[@samg.5165]

@@Kamawan0 I genuinely don't know what you're talking about. Of all the problems plaguing academia, the overconfidence of researchers doesn't even make it into the top 10.

[@tartagliussy529]

I want to send this to my lovely mother who insisted that I have “bad energy” and she’s “cutting her cosmic cord” with me when I was 12. When she described how I have “bad energy” she was just describing my autism.

[@CygnusDerg]

Spiritualism and abusive parenting. Name a more iconic duo.

[@lizziestockwell5461]

I'm so sorry you're dealing with that!

[@colmlooney5843]

Thats f***ed up. On a tangent, the only thing I hate more than religion is religion for profit, the only thing I hate more than religion for profit is religion for profit that pretends it is science.

[@themugwump33]

Anybody who loves keqing is cool in my book. I’m sorry you had such a bad experience!

[@stevenravenfolk]

Wow. People are so ridiculously ignorant. Sorry about your mom.

[@wombat9793]

"The periodic table is not a piano" - Something that shouldn't ever have needed to be said

[@marccolten9801]

Intriguing thought though. A keyboard with a key for every element could make some interesting music.

[@vicwelsh7608]

@@marccolten9801 pretty sure thats just minecraft note blocks

[@marccolten9801]

@@vicwelsh7608 I'd hit you with a scathing comment if I had the faintest idea what you just said.

[@vicwelsh7608]

@@marccolten9801 in Minecraft you can place note blocks on different blocks and they make different sounds depending on the block

[@marccolten9801]

@@vicwelsh7608 Thanks.

[@96Champ994]

Why would a quantum mysticist need money from me for a lesson? If you need money materialize it with your consciousness.

[@lepep6737]

Would very much break the economy

[@AA86420]

Why would a psychologist, a doctor, or a business man take money for their service? Don't assume I'm taking mysticism side, I'm just thinking wherever doctors are cults or not. Well, evening lost meaning. What is real?

[@BruceCarroll]

@@AA86420 Because psychologists, doctors, and businessmen don't claim to be able to create reality? Just spitballin' here.

[@lefcso]

@@AA86420 Maybe bcs if they would do it for free they would starve? But it's just a theory.

[@shamrockgaming9505]

@@lefcso the entire point is that they say they can control reality so why do they need us to give them mondy

[@robson1566]

When I was at the late years of my adolescence, I was very depressed. When I looked for help, with a psychologist, mind you, I was faces with someone who behaved more like a cult leader, despite working for a public clinic (I am not from the US). Lots of people, myself included, suffered a lot from that, including sexual harassment. This video took a very dark turn for me at the end, but it is extremely necessary to warn people about these kinds of manipulation tactics. I thank you for giving people that warning, no one deserves to live through this kind of thing.

[@karapalmer7228]

Jesus christ do they not properly vet them there? I'm so sorry you had to deal with that, I hope regulations are at least better now, jesus

[@dcrenshaw42]

"If you think you understand quantum mechanics, then you don't" - Richard Feynman

[@andrewjenkins9965]

It's no wonder Einstein was so uncomfortable about it.

[@jeroen9872]

Nice :) that goes in my favorite quotes ljst

[@vikitheviki]

It's very mysterious..

[@GrimSleepy]

"There's still a school of thought, that cannot believe that quantum mechanics is so much different than largescale behavior, I think that's a deep prejudice. They're always seeking to finding, to waiting for the day that we discover that underneath quantum mechanics are some mundane ordinary balls hitting or particles moving and so on. I think they're going to be defeated, I think nature's imagination is so much greater than man's, she's never going to let us relax!" - Richard Feynman on the Fun To Imagine television recordings.

[@mollyccf]

Same same for Buddhism 🙏

[@thekwjiboo]

Ironic that Deepak wears glasses. Why doesn't he just believe he can see better?

[@virginiawright1741]

Hey maybe he wants to be blind

[@s4lsaballlerinna168]

Otherwise he wouldn't see the public and so they don't exsist

[@slowmotionatheist]

Because limitless power has limits! /s

[@jamesdriscoll_tmp1515]

Because glasses lend an air of inteligencia, better for grift - I mean fund raising 🤓💰

[@drewwanderer]

Why doesn't he just believe that he is young? Lol how does anyone follow him unironically.

[@GudWithFud]

i really dislike the crystal people, i was studying geology last year at uni and whenever i searched for a particular mineral's properties on google it was a dice roll whether i'd get new age woo or just the actual properties, it was really bloody annoying

[@AnaseSkyrider]

You might wanna start looking for keywords you can copy-paste into your search that you can filter from the results.

[@GudWithFud]

@@AnaseSkyrider yeah so i think in the end i would just go straight to the websites i knew were ok (like mindb i think it was called, and some other ones), because annoyingly the crystal healing websites would actually contain some proper information, but only a little bit of it, and then you'd read two or three lines in and its talking about how amethyst heals cancer or something, so there wasnt really a good way to filter the bad results out :/ (unless i predicted what they'd lie about before i searched). it was quite annoying as well because even though theres loads and loads of information online about minerals in general, sometimes finding the specific information was very hard to find (like id have to go on several websites to find the specific property of a specific mineral) but yeah igy

[@GudWithFud]

@@Name-dv4qu it was due to the search terms being used on the new-age woo sites as well as the legit ones (and often it seemed like some of their information was legit and copy-pasted from wikipedia or something, and then the rest of it was just about vibrations and how it heals cancer or whatever ... you know like a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down or something)

[@TheCloud785]

The Aliens say otherwise 👽

[@GudWithFud]

@@Name-dv4qu just because i was quite new to it back then, i was sort of scared of filtering out certain results (using NOT or something in the search) because i was worried i would cast my net too wide and exclude a bunch of stuff that was actually useful

[@Corporate_Desecration]

Statues are evidence that there were once living humans made of 100% stone

[@BiloGadget]

...medusa.

[@legitusername-zl7to]

lots of chemicals that make up humans can make up stones and life came from some minerals from underground vents

[@waltjames407]

Nonsense. It was the basilisk.

[@RaineTrimley]

Years ago my wife dragged me to a new age conference in Sydney. Deepak was visibly sick from flu or similar while preaching how we can all control our health. Several thousand people seemed not to notice. It was gibberish.

[@Ergeniz]

Rather sounds like the dissonance from Christian preachers regarding the gospel while they ride about in multi-million dollar private jets and live in mansions.

[@Atticus_Moore]

Hm what if its possible though and we just don't know how to do it? Similar to how we know things exist but not sure how it works

[@fabianousim6716]

we all know this Indian man is just a con man we usually encounter on our unlucky day, but smarter.

[@bike4aday]

@@randymulder9105 A while ago I came to realize that if I really wanted to understand reality I would have to actually do the practices, putting in hours on the cushion as a scientist would in the lab. I then came to find a whole other side to spirituality - retreats. On retreat, 95% of the time was spent practicing and the other 5% was review. This is completely opposite of how most people engage in spiritually which is listening to a guru talk 95% of the time and spending 5% practicing. In the retreat setting, no matter what conclusion you come to or what is appearing before you, the answer is always the same - go back and continue practicing. So where there's a lot of muddiness in spirituality, conclusions without evidence and no way to prove an individual's enlightenment, there's also a whole other aspect which is nothing like that. These practices are the most scientific, skeptical, and sanest things I've done. The problem is, people are obsessed with the content of thoughts, they assume all answers can be handed to them in the form of words and comprehended as thoughts. Millions show up to hear Chopra speak, but only hundreds sit and investigate their experience morning and night. The reason I'm saying this is just to shed light on the fact that we can have spirituality without debating who's enlightened or blindly believing what gurus say. None of that can touch the practical aspect which is raw and direct. The question then becomes "what practices do I use?" and my answer would be "from teachers who focus exclusively on practice and practice what they teach".

[@shakagod3779]

Thanks for you're honesty.

[@k9strike931]

Wait, so Chopra's book "Quantum Healing" would literally imply that it heals you the least amount possible.

[@k9strike931]

@queerdo Do you know not what the definition of "quantum" is?

[@michac.8283]

@queerdo "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' " -Isaac Asimov

[@k9strike931]

@Quentin Cavell "somehow you could consciously manipulate the quantum level of yourself" That makes zero sense. Learn what quantum means.

[@MYNAMACHEF]

@Quentin Cavell you seriously don't have the slightest clue of what quantum mechanics even imply

[@J0hnB09]

@queerdo quantum mechanics is the physics of the smallest things in existence, such as subatomic particles.

[@karmanuenes7629]

As someone who loves crystals and witchcraft, I see it as like writing my shopping list vs trying to remember everything and forget things. Holding a tigers eye reminds me to be wise, looking at amethyst helps me calm down and "protects me" from negativity by redirecting my mind on something else, spell charms reminds me of goals and motivates me more to do it etc. It should be used as another form of mindfulness meditation, I could use any other objects to meditate with but rocks and plants are cool. There's nothing wrong with meditation, i think everyone should do it because it promotes introspectiveness, self awareness I see too many people lack 🙄 Like the awareness of that good happy feeling you get when you see a beautiful crystal shine isn't from the crystal, but it's from within. Just because it brought happiness to you, doesnt mean waving it around changes how the world works.

[@imho2278]

When I was a kid I used to like my uranium sample because it was so pretty..

[@soniavecchini9658]

@@imho2278you then realized it was slowly frying your braincells, that’s why you felt attracted to it :)

[@Osmium78]

@@soniavecchini9658it wouldn’t actually be “frying their braincels” unless they had a large quantity which they held up to their head for a long time

[@biggbaddy6220]

"Anything that is made of 100% silicon is silicon" -Professor Dave

[@JeffJefferyUK]

Similar, though not quite on the same level, but aren't "All Butter" shortbread biscuits (aka cookies) just sticks of butter? ;-)

[@hippyjoe]

Mmmm the floor here is made of floor

[@aashsyed1277]

@@hippyjoe haha

[@johnrubensaragi4125]

If it quacks like a duck

[@channingdeadnight]

i watch this to regain my sanity after telltale and suris drive me bonkers.

[@Jsyrinsart]

Let's be fair: magic healing crystals do cure one very specific problem known as "I need more shiny rocks in my room"

[@kimjongunsucksbooty750]

They sure do

[@mystak3n]

Gib shiny rocks

[@rulerovall1219]

Mystics and white girls who are into astrology have ruined my genuine love of Crystals because they do look cool. But the last thing I want is to invite a girl over and she sees a cool Crystal and says “omg that Crystal has ban energy.”

[@elizabethmcintyre3581]

No, they solve two problems. You need more rocks and the con man needs more money. See? Perfect balance!

[@DiAn-ud8dy]

@@rulerovall1219 😂most of those scams were Made by guys, most of people who believes they're some kind of Magic Master are guys, most of gurus are guys, etc but sure blame white girls, as a male poc i can Say that really sounds like a r4c1st and m1s0gyni5t1c comment

[@positivelylori]

I was raised in a evangelical church believing in healing, speaking in tongues etc. So when I broke away I quickly got caught up in all these quantum physics and mystical teachings. It took years but I finally rid myself of all false beliefs.

[@slicedtoad]

I don't think it possible or even desirable to rid yourself of all false beliefs. We are subjective observers, not omniscient gods that can _know_ truth absolutely. Rationalism is about becoming comfortable with uncertainty. It's saying "I belive x and will act as if x is true, but I could be wrong and am open to changing that belief if the evidence presents itself."

[@slicedtoad]

​@@MrFlameRad I mean, I don't worship it, but I certainly hold the scientific consensus in high regard. In fact, I hold it in the highest regard of all current human systems. This is despite knowing about the errors, negligence, funding biases, and outright fraud that are more common than they should be. But it still produces higher confidence knowledge than any other existing method. If you are not an expert in a particular (and narrow) field, then you are _rationally_ better off accepting the consensus as more likely than any other idea you might have. Even if that idea comes from an expert in the field; if that idea disagrees with the consensus, you should not hold it in higher confidence than the consensus. The expert might be right; but until he changes the consensus, the layperson should trust him less. This is a common problem in the skeptic community. Being skeptical of strange anomalous phenomena described anecdotally is very different from being skeptical of the expert shared opinions of scientists in a particular field. It's easy to bias towards one own experience and understanding. But that experience is, itself, anecdotal. You should apply skepticism to yourself. If you find yourself disagreeing with an expert on their matter of expertise you should assume that you are missing something, not that they are.

[@bike4aday]

@@slicedtoad I would say it's possible to rid all false beliefs, but I would also say this leads to a very different place than most people imagine. And the way you get there is like you said at the end "apply skepticism to yourself". I think this is really what the core of spirituality is [supposed to be] about and why it hinges so greatly on mindfulness. You are essentially dying to observation. All perceptions need to be deconstructed, even the ones that come from words of Mystics (Chopra, Leo, all others). The knowledge offered through these [mindfulness] practices are not the kind of knowledge scientists deal with. Where a scientist would think omniscience is knowing everything in the past and future (and perhaps what color underwear Joe Smoe is wearing), omniscience in spirituality is knowing the past and future arise as thoughts without any delay between the arising of the thought and the knowing of the thought arising, same with the passing away of the thought (and all sensations in the field of direct awareness). This creates a sense of totality and completeness which is what they call omniscience. It is essentially untangling the ambiguous, fused ball of experience into it's raw and non-symbolic constituents. And nothing can be said about it because words and thoughts are themselves, not the things they point to. I wish this distinction was more clear for people because it would clear up a lot of confusion and conflict, but the kaleidoscope of views that make up that confusion is also just the nature of this crazy universe :)

[@slicedtoad]

​@@bike4aday ​ There is so much equivocation with that kind of explanation. Omniscience typically means all-knowing. It includes all knowledge, not just inwardly directed self-knowledge. Why would you use 'omniscience'? At the very least, qualify it with a prefix like: self-omniscience, auto-omniscience. Something like 'enlightenment' would probably work but might be a bit too broadly used. Make up a new term or find one that doesn't more commonly mean something entirely different. Remember, words are just symbols we use as part of a communication protocol. They allow us to move ideas from one mind to another, translated by language. They only work when people share the same understanding of the words. "Where a scientist would think omniscience is knowing everything in the past and future" No, the scientist doesn't _think_ this. The scientist _knows_ that this is the standard definition and _chooses_ to use this definition by default. There are no 'true' definitions; just common definitions, specialized definitions (used in professional fields or niche communities: legal, sports, etc) and localized ones (dialects, slang, etc). There is nothing wrong with spiritual practices. They are, in fact, universal to humans (as far as I know). They could probably be better described as "practices pertaining to emotional and existential health" (or something like that). What is wrong (irrational at a minimum) is using spiritual means to answer scientific questions and privileging your spiritual experiences above scientific results. Science answers the "what" and "how" of our universe. Spirituality can answer "why" and "should". Objective vs Subjective. At best, there is some overlap between psychology and mindfulness. But it definitely has nothing to do with physics. You're welcome to use physics discoveries to inform your worldview and subsequently influence your spiritual practices, but not the other way around. You'll notice that every one of the people in the video broke that rule. They also liked to misinterpret physics and then use that misinterpretation to justify their spiritual practices. So while I appreciate your attempt at justifying mindfulness, be careful that you are only defending actual mindfulness practices and not the fraudulent mess that is quantum mysticism.

[@bike4aday]

@@slicedtoad I definitely agree with you that the right words should be used, but it's a tough situation because I also see a pattern where misunderstanding leads to misuse of the word and then having to come up with new language again and again. I've had many long discussions about whether we should clarify the meaning of words or use new ones and I'm not entirely sold on either approach. The problem is we have two contexts, let's call them 'spiritual' and 'egoic', and these contexts change the meaning of words, but we're trying to use a word someone understands in one to point to the other which they don't already see. It's like those pictures that can be seen 2 different ways, they have to flip perception to see it. Even prefixes like 'self' and 'auto' have different meanings in both contexts, so it doesn't really get around the issue. With all that being said, using physics terminology for spiritual wisdom is like dipping steak in chocolate - terrible mix LOL. The two approaches are: 1. Clarify original core spiritual terminology (which will piss off a lot of people that use/believe the corrupted version) 2. Create new spiritual terminology (which will piss off a lot of people that use those words in the 'egoic' context) The new spiritual terminology I prefer is like how I described omniscience, but that comes from years of first-hand experience learning where the traps for miscommunications are. Even then, if someone wanted to learn spirituality I would never start with a definition of omniscience. Mindfulness seems to be the best starting place, the bread-and-butter of practice, and just happens to be really profound in it's mastery. Anyways, yeah, I'm not entirely sold on any of these approaches for communication, but I understand if you see new terminology to be the way to go. My equivocations may seen overly complex and unnecessary, but that comes from years of experience, and probably some mild OCD for trying to account for every possible misinterpretation.

[@primerye]

That last bald-headed dude is downright terrifying.

[@OwenBartels]

He took his clips severely out of context, watch a full video of his before having any opinions on him. He’s actually very smart but this guy is portraying him horribly

[@dreamt_off]

​@@OwenBartels Having used to listen to him when I was in my teens, it's completely fair to take issue with the dangerous nature of his stuff. I mean in the sense that you're exposed to ideas that can be actual hazards to dwell on. Especially considering a lot of people find themselves in this type of content in dark times. Having been familiar with his content, dude is definitely highly unethical, I could even see thread after thread of him acting all sorts of weird ways to forum goers on his site. To me, at the time, I didn't think much of it till years later.

[@affugter]

​@@OwenBartels are you following Leo?

[@OwenBartels]

@@affugter wdym by following

[@kriegsmesser4567]

Crystal healers: "Crystals will bring you health and joy!" Solid state physicists: "Crystals will only bring you pain..."

[@margodphd]

*in meantime, chemical engineers just staring the thousand yard stare* 😂

[@Eosinophyllis]

asbestos can change your health, and it is a crystal!! just um not for the better

[@Forsakianity]

Me throwing crystals at people: "Haha!"

[@bow-tiedengineer4453]

I'll have you know I'm deeply enjoying studying crystalline structures in my materials science topics course.

[@themugwump33]

Physicist: “where the hell are the impurities in my crystal coming from!?!?” Engineer: “Why the hell wont my crystal fully saturate with these impurities!?!?”

[@StrongMed]

Professor Dave, continuing to smack down pseudoscientific nonsense one charlatan at a time. Well done!

[@brettvv7475]

I've yet to find someone else do it so thoroughly and absolutely, although for a bit of a comedic flair I do like me some CHL (CoolHardLogic).

[@balladofcoseypolar4711]

This sort of empiricist nonsense here is pre-trans fallacy 101.

[@rc7625]

@@balladofcoseypolar4711 Lol, what?

[@ChainsawChristmas]

@@balladofcoseypolar4711 nice, you tried out the Deepak Chopra sentence generator!

[@balladofcoseypolar4711]

@@ChainsawChristmas If you don't understand a sentence, that is your problem. And I don't like Deepak because he uses quantum metaphors too much and his content is not that deep.

[@joshuaalan7580]

An old coworker of mine was telling me about a "cleansing" he went to once, and as he was describing the bodily pain and sweating and dizziness and shitting himself, I came to the realization that he had actually paid someone to poison him for an evening.

[@kelvinmartinez4770]

Ayahuasca?

[@williamsburgbushwick1392]

Ayahuasca is reaL??? I was going to Peru but now I have a second thought on it what do you think bout Ayahuasca or wachuma .???

[@naturegirl1999]

What are those things? Are they the poison OP referred to?

[@Iudicatio]

@Williamsburg Bushwick Ayahuasca and other psychedelics are seen as a "shortcut" to mystical experiences. You can have the same experiences by praying or meditating over a long period of time. Following a spiritual practice and meditating or praying every day is the safer and better way even though it might take years.

[@kelvinmartinez4770]

Yeah its a psychedelic plant from South America used by shamans as a way to cleanse your spirit and trip out with them. Never tried my self but heard rumors about it. Also heard it makes you loose your bowels which can be dangerous to some

[@yourgodismean4526]

Ik this vid is 3 years old, but just started bingeing your content and had to say something. Thank you!!! Ty for this! I was raised Christian til 10, then we got into the Transcendental Meditation movement. Everything you’re describing here is a staple in the TM movement/cult. Ppl are mainly Hindu focused but the woo is THICK. I believed all of this crap for years! Now I’m a free science loving atheist. The sad part is, I just turned 60. I didn’t get free of this crap until the last 5-10 years. When I thought of doing something n it seemed too hard, I’d have some vague thought, “well, I’ll get around to it in my next life”. Pls don’t do this to yourselves, younger ppl. Live! Live like you will die tmrw, bc in the vastness of time, you will ❤

[@CornwallisCornwall]

" Pls don’t do this to yourselves, younger ppl." I'm 17, and I've been a science loving atheist too for about 1 year. I wish you a happy life in your old age.

[@LeafyLeafbloom]

"The periodic table is not a piano" The fact that this needs to be said is making me weep for humanity.

[@haardo]

Well. String theory kinda makes it a piano. :D

[@StoneAndersonStudio]

@@haardo nobody takes string theory seriously in physics anymore. So much of it is reduced to this same quantum woo woo bullshit but they say “string theory” instead of “quantum.”

[@theosenoner2040]

@@haardo good one

[@AsmodeusDHare]

yeah it's more like a Kaleidoscope. Hear me out... look up 'black bands in rainbow' under science.

[@fatpotato5331]

@@haardo string theory is unproven :D

[@CoASoFi]

As a musician, I cringed so hard when the Quantum Mystic guy said an octave down on the periodic table. And the 100% silicone sponge is hilarious.

[@matenorth]

This might be cringy but Pythagoras measured distance in musical tones. Moon is one tone away from earth. This is the guy who divided thousands of frequencies in semi tones so we can have the music we have today.

[@kvdrr]

Except that's not what he said, lol. He said "octet" which is a valid chemistry term.

[@kvdrr]

I don't know whether Dave purposefully misheard him or not...

[@Vaanharrold715]

Me too. im also a musician and every time i hear the word frequency in common conversation i know exactly what kind of person im dealing with and walk away.

[@kvdrr]

@@___meph___4547 The latter is correct :D

[@Delirium-01]

"the periodic table is not a piano" absolutely murders me it's so funny

[@Mr_Vosakisen]

Every time I hear it 😂

[@robertnett9793]

Wait wait wait - you mean my Requiem in Pb-minor doesn't work? Dammit.

[@Mr_Vosakisen]

@@robertnett9793 lmfaoooo

[@s0LLagal]

We all know that playing music on your periodic table is the only true way to play heavy metal

[@Delirium-01]

@@s0LLagal I love pun

[@flywheelshyster]

what is that paranoid android poster in your background? doesn't look like a radiohead poster. or hitchhiker's guide, which are the only references for that term I know

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

It's a Radiohead poster that showed up in an Instagram ad and I couldn't resist.

[@chemicalnamesargon]

​@@ProfessorDaveExplains excellent taste. I love you even more now

[@ficolas2]

Good energy is the kinetic energy of a car driving you to where you want to go. Bad energy is the kinetic energy of a cannon ball going 200m/s straight to your face.

[@definitelynotrohan]

Best comment ever ! 🤣🤣🤣

[@dumpstercat2229]

Underrated

[@maf6768]

So its subjective

[@_nebulousthoughts]

Perfect

[@АлтайскийКазак]

I laughed way too hard at this, lol!

[@Isaac_the_Seeker_of_Truth]

As aggravating as quantum mysticists are, there is one thing I have to thank them for: they reignited my interest in physics and were a small part of my motivation for going back to school, and now I'm doing a PhD in plasma atomic physics.

[@Isaac_the_Seeker_of_Truth]

@The Truth Define "soul"

[@shivammishra1720]

Keep up the good work brother. Hoping best for you. My motivation to learn science and take my high school syllabus more seriously is also somehow indirectly fuelled by these pseudoscience peddlers. In India, you will find a lot of them.

[@shivammishra1720]

​@Sai Sasank True but because of this modern scientific temper is lost. Pseudoscience is on the high rise in India, I don't know whether modern scientific temper will survive in India or not.

[@shivammishra1720]

@Sai Sasank Science and philosophy used to coexist completely but modern scientific thought is different from philosophy experimentation is not a part of philosophy. Philosophy works on the principle of rationality, logic, intuition, and common sense, modern science also works like this but it has experimentation that makes it slightly different from philosophy. Note:- This comment is not done to disarm your argument rather it tries to extend your point.

[@Isaac_the_Seeker_of_Truth]

@@CynicalBastard Define "meaning"

[@vc101]

"when you're not looking at your child, it's infinity, it's nothingness." I bet that child (existant or no) developed object permanence before Leo did.

[@omnom8378]

Underrated comment

[@vc101]

@@177SCmaro never thought of that before, but that could be plausible according to his own logic

[@Mefistofy]

Makes sense though since electromagnetic waves are the only way for two systems to interact and our universe is based on electromagnetic interactions only. So if you are not looking, your child is in an undefined state. And undefined might as well not exist. Just so you know, this is sarcasm. EDIT: a word

[@vc101]

@@Mefistofy and thank moses for that, you honestly had me convinced you were serious in that first half, and i was about ready to put you on blast.

[@nixxvega816]

@@177SCmaro I believe Leo's stance is that he is the only thing that exists. So you can't turn off his video. The only things happening are things that he perceives. Edit: I've just been told that you and I are also God. I retract my above statement.

[@CCP-Lies]

Crystals have energy. If you throw it, it has a kinetic energy depending on its mass and velocity

[@IljaMuromec114]

Crystals also have potential energy, gravity is pulling them towards the center of the earth

[@captainzoltan7737]

I'm convinced the people who came up with quantum mystism didn't even know the definition of quantum and just used it because they thought it sounded cool.

[@mjjoe76]

Yep. Exactly right.

[@Nico_M.]

I like to draw parallels with certain sci-fi or superhero stories. It doesn't matter if we talk about how superheroes gain their power, or how incredible machines work or use energy, we went from magic to X-rays, to radioactivity and nuclear power, to DNA and mutations, and to "quantum physics" , whatever the story means by that. Fiction stories need to explain things realisticly, but there's a point where they have to stop and say "well, it's like that, take it or leave it". If Stan Lee wanted to explain realisticly how a regular guy could get the powers of Spiderman, he wouldn't have written about Spiderman, he would have been the damn Spiderman himself. The same mechanics work with those kinds of charlatans. They need to base their stories in some kind of reality, and what better world than the fringes of science itself with all its unknowns and multiple explanations.

[@captainzoltan7737]

@@Nico_M. yeah you're right, the explanations these pseudosciences provide resemble how science works in scifi /fantasy.

[@primpondgaming1721]

They watched to much ant man

[@idesel]

It sounded like magic

[@v0Xx60]

"such as Scientology and other successful criminal enterprises" ok, that got me. That's good. Don't get sued.

[@jarlekrisvivison1577]

😄😄😄👌

[@Cheepchipsable]

They will be going through his bins.

[@freddyjosemoleroramirez402]

Professor Dave spitting some facts

[@ivanivonovich9863]

Can't be sued for statements of fact or opinion. Only when those statements are meant to harm or deceive or are not based on facts. (See the recent claims made by those loyalists to the orange ogre about some voting machines).

[@v0Xx60]

@@ivanivonovich9863 You're clearly unaware of how notoriously litigious Scientology is.

[@sdnikko8960]

If Oprah Winfrey married Deepak she would be Oprah Choprah. Now that would be a quantum joint banking account.

[@shreyalalmann2042]

🤣🤣

[@mistajostur6893]

Lmao

[@marjoryrainey287]

Kool! Funny!

[@chbu7081]

She could give away free magic cars.

[@journeytoself8067]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Brenden-Harrison]

I used to believe spirit science in middle and high school. I met my wife shortly after high school and she was a part of a very dogmatic Christian family. I helped her deconstruct and during that process it helped me deconstruct my silly mystical notions too. Ive always loved science, but spirit science still managed to convince me for a while. It feels so freeing to have found the truth and we are now both compassionate atheist anti-theists.

[@Zyzarda]

All these words are just replacements for a simpler world, cult. You were born into a cult family who raised you with cult values which caused you cognitive dissonance into their beliefs until you broke out of the reinforcement cycle and then your healthy normal brain fixed the rot that these people tried to force you to live by and poison other lives.

[@bakababy6904]

"i am omniscient, i know everything that is happening in the universe" "hang on, what's that at my door?"

[@ТехносолдатАркос]

...I am omniscient..... Half-Life 3,release date,please.

[@bengsynthmusic]

@@ТехносолдатАркос "Oh that. Ummm...I uh... I know everything about that game. The universe told me it's better than 1 and 2. But it doesn't want me to tell you the release date."

[@SupremeST25]

Gotta ask him for gta vi’s release date ffs

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

Ah yes the "Messiah" right there in his Temple of Nod.

[@AleksoLaĈevalo999]

@@ТехносолдатАркос That's easy- Never.

[@ChavdoMnml]

My mom has fallen victim to the pseudo science cults to the point that I am now worried for her. She no longer trusts any doctor and relies only on "natural" medicine, energy treatments and other magic to get her health in check. As she ages further and the fear of death becomes more substantial I fear that she will spend everything she has on those gurus, just so she can confirm her biases and this will lead her to having a miserable old age. It's just saddening how we have achieved so much and yet, there are still ways to exploit our naive magical thinking to such extremes as to forego medication just in order to prove a point.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Strap her to a chair and force her to watch this.

[@ksupadhyaya]

These 'natural' medicine is older then your modern medicine and even your trust on 'modern' medicine can be seen as a 'bias' towards your doctors

[@AbhinavKumar-ov3xf]

@@ksupadhyaya Older means good what a logic

[@ksupadhyaya]

@@AbhinavKumar-ov3xf newer means good.what a logic

[@AbhinavKumar-ov3xf]

@@ksupadhyayawhen did i say that

[@Axacqk]

"Things can happen only when things are perfectly balanced" is my favorite, because by sheer coincidence it happens to even be related to scientific truth, by virtue of being its exact opposite. *Nothing* happens and nothing will *ever* happen again once "things are perfectly balanced". It's the heat death of the universe.

[@idiosyncraticlawyer3400]

Well, technically not.

[@voxorox]

@@idiosyncraticlawyer3400 But actually yes. Perfect universal equilibrium is total heat death. We don't know it will happen that way, but if it does the universe will be effectively dead.

[@idiosyncraticlawyer3400]

@@voxorox Quantum pointcare recurrance states that heat death isn't permanant, as quantum fluctuations are inherently random and can never be balanced, so one large enough to reverse heat death will almost certainly happen eventually.

[@JHJHJHJHJH]

It's waffle designed to sound clever. Take away the fact that it's obvious nonesense and check the logic. If things can only happen when things are perfectly balanced then either; a) Things are always perfectly balanced - because things happen all the time. b) Nothing can ever happen - because taking any action to create balance is a thing happening.

[@Nixeu42]

@@idiosyncraticlawyer3400 That doesn't entirely contradict him. Heat death is still perfect thermal equilibrium. Also, that hypothesis has fallen out of favor, including with Sean Carroll. It is possible that heat death isn't actually possible, because we don't actually have a solid way to account for gravitational forces. Gravitational entropy hasn't been quantified. There's also no way to know if the universe is a closed system in thermal equilibrium.

[@Geek37664]

Colloquial usage is big linguistic problem when it comes to communicating topics like this. One example is how the word “theory” is used to mean hypothesize or conjecture. I suggested that specific definition of the word (the one meaning hypothesis) be phased out of common usage and I received A LOT of backlash from others because they said I was gatekeeping or policing the English language. I guess some people who truly love science don’t truly see the purposeful misuse of the word theory as that big of a deal.

[@lepidoptera9337]

I don't know who it is that you talked to but it was not somebody who loves science. Very few people know what a scientific theory is because they have never worked with one.

[@kukalakana]

"What is energy?" Energy is that thing I bloody well never seem to have! ____________ "Energy is the capacity to do work." Yup. Still applies 😂

[@richardmoores]

This is why those on the dole have no energy

[@lavona8204]

I felt that to my core

[@LasseGreiner]

I perceive "energy" to be misused in a lot of fields. Probably because it is only a concept or potential which is beyond many people. That is probably why! 😇

[@guscfer157]

Energy is an abstract concept, even when we try to apply the most basic understandings of math and logic to it, it remains interchangeable in it's meaning. It's a term that can't really be used "literally" because, at it's core, energy is a property that has it's existence entirely based on the speaker's perspective of it and where the term is applied, meaning that, without an extremelly well defined and solid frame of reference, "energy" means absolutely nothing.

[@FelisImpurrator]

ADHD's a bitch sometimes.

[@alisontheanimal4009]

I have suffered from Rheumatoid arthritis since I was 13. No one outside of the world of living with a chronic illness can understand the pure desperation that comes from constant suffering. I have tried just about every alternative medicine there is. I couldn't even guess the money I wasted searching for anyone who could help. In the end it was advances in medicines and a good rheumatologist, who helped me. Thank you so much for this video, if it saves one person from what I went through you really are a hero.

[@diegorincon4673]

I really do hope you get better.

[@alisontheanimal4009]

@@diegorincon4673 Thank you. I'm doing okay now.

[@eugeniebreida]

@@diegorincon4673 Sadly one does not really ‘get better’ from a chronic, degenerative disease. Which is perhaps why this woman wrote that people on the outside have difficulty understanding. I have a similar condition... and am inspired she 1) shared her story, 2) found the holy grail - a GOOD rheumatologist! I am still searching.

[@kellydalstok8900]

If alternative medicine worked, it would simply be called medicine.

[@alisontheanimal4009]

@@kellydalstok8900 Amen!!!!!!

[@ducoschollmeijer4841]

I found this meme once about healing crystals. A woman hotglued crystals into her car, because she said they gave the car a postive energy, and that they helped her feel good on mondays. She also put them on the steering wheel, and the caption said: "CONGRATULATIONS, YOU JUST TURNED YOUR AIRBAG INTO A CLAYMORE" and laughed my ass off

[@helmetongrass1893]

at first i misread your comment and thought that she hotglued crystals into her ears funny thing is, i wasn't even surprised at first because thats what i expect from such ppl lmao

[@fergusthepoet]

I prefer injuring crystals. They're exactly the same as healing crystals but instead of holding them in your hands and saying "om", you throw them from your hands and say "bomb".

[@janTesika]

does seem like much of a sword.

[@thomasdaniel100]

Nice. Yeah, dumb.

[@bubbykins4864]

Little did they know, it would actually function more like a cluster bomb and/or shotgun.

[@nutmeg605]

Great content, love your chem and ochem courses!!

[@clemensbock7434]

I love this kind of content. The funniest part was when the omniscient Leo didn't know who was at his door.

[@jotcw81]

I found it more unsettling with how much indifference he treated the guy.

[@jotcw81]

@@fliu5282 The opposite. Leo, the omnipotent being, should have known there is someone at the door. Should have treated the amazon guy nicely.

[@travis6279]

Ah, but there clearly was an aura of dark qi that obscured the vision of his third eye! Remember, even Yoda had trouble seeing through the dark side

[@PoliticallyCorrect]

@@travis6279 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@rebbelwivcause]

So I just had an advert on Quantum mysticism BS on this VERY video Proff... YT is screwed!!

[@gotankz4698]

Hi Dave, I just want to say I feel very strongly about what you are doing debunking all these crackpots. It means a lot to me on a very personal level. I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. Disinformation on the internet is a plague.

[@MichaelJohnson-lk3mg]

YES! You are correct, Sir!

[@Jay-fy5ob]

That actualised guy is fucking insane wtf

[@margaretwebster2516]

There's so much of this rubbish out there. Think a lot of folk say they understand and it works, just to be part of the crowd.

[@IrishCaesar]

My sister got a 98% in quantum physics at McGill. Nothing else to say here, just very proud of her

[@Wolf-ln1ml]

Yay, congrats! 😊

[@robertblakeman9978]

Great, she'll probably join a Cult!

[@thestasi2646]

McGill, Saul Goodman

[@DataLeak06]

We win these

[@W1th3rrose]

tell her we say congrats! :)

[@insiderperson18279]

Did you know Leo Gura mentioned you as a example of being wrong in his latest "The Psychology of Being Wrong" episode? Would love a response video, maybe even review his 9-hour series on "Deconstructing the Myth of Science" 💀

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Haha what a tool

[@CHarris1066]

Check out "simply always awake" for another example of the pseudo spiritual manchild pushing non duality

[@MaryGwenDungan]

@@CHarris1066 Oh, just checked. I don't care for that guy, although I very much respect Advaita masters like Ramana Maharshi. I think Dilullo's take is called New Advaita, which is kind of contradictory if you understand Advaita. It "is." It can't be old or new, at least that's my take. Imo, this guy is not "authentic." But as far as the ones who are go, and if they're Western, Western vocabulary isn't extensive enough to properly describe these states of consciousness. So, they search for terms that their audience will understand and relate to. For the "truth" in these matters, you'd have to read the Vedas and Buddhist scriptures. And, if you're a real purist, teach yourself Sanskrit like Feynman did, to make sure the translation you're reading is correct. Or buy a crystal. One of the two 🙂.

[@CHarris1066]

@@MaryGwenDungan I agree with you on going to the source if you want uncorrupted knowledge. There is wisdom in eastern teachings and I do like the aesthetic. I see these western non dualistic potion peddlers as merely methods of dissociation. There may indeed be times in someone's life where they dissociate but to make it the sole purpose of the practice seems pointless. I like Carl Jung's interpretation of the self, conscious and unconscious, seems to me a better model for discovering and interpreting reality as it dives deep within rather than dissociating and denying.

[@MaryGwenDungan]

@@CHarris1066 I haven't studied Jung as extensively as I should. I also haven't studied Sri Aurobindo as much as I should have, but I'm guessing that Aurobindo's Intermediate Zone is comparable to Jung's Collective Unconscious, what New Agers would call the Astral Plane and Christians would call the Angelic Realm. Maybe you'd have some insights into that or perhaps I'm way off and drawing correspondences when there aren't any.

[@morjoy4joymor]

Your point about how the public is primarily interested in frontier sciences really struck me. I had to reexamine my basic scientific knowledge, and my motivations for wanting to learn about advanced stuff. I was sort of surprised, I've got a shitty grasp on a lot of basic concepts. Thanks for the reality check! Edit: fixed a typo

[@calebgonsalves2970]

Animated spirituality guru:- "One octave down from carbon is silicon!" Dave:- That's called a 'period', the periodic table is not a piano... The best line I've heard in a while and I watch comedy every day

[@sravasaksitam]

Man's talking about vibrations and frequencies and octaves, he's in the wrong field

[@calebgonsalves2970]

@@bobjohn8581 Tachyons are "out there science" like wormholes. They are ominous anomalies that we haven't found. While they may explain things currently they do more harm then good. Tachyons apparently go faster than light which in the current state of physics is impossible. When you start reaching light speed you start to gain mass which means you need more energy to go faster which adds more mass. So you need infinite energy to reach light speed let alone cross it. Going 99.9999999.... percent lightspeed is the best you can do if you can ever get the energy needed. If you can harness such gargantuan amounts of energy you can just wipe out a galaxy with pure energy. Power civilizations past the heat death of the universe..... Light by the way escapes this by just having no mass but it isn't pure energy...... Also to be "scientific" you need to measure it. Famously Einstein's general theory of relativity was considered false until he predicted the exact curvature of light from a star when it goes past the sun into the earth. It was tested and his theory worked. Only then was his theory accepted. There is nothing that can be measured about these "vibrations" Don't even get started on vibrations. Vibrations means an oscillation, which is an objectoving back and forth like waves on the sea. That oscillation needs energy and that energy need to come from somewhere so crystals and deeds don't give out vibrations. It is true that you release vibrations in the form of radiation in infrared but no, that doesn't effect anyone....

[@calebgonsalves2970]

@@bobjohn8581 bottom line. Lightspeed is a speed limit you'll revolustionise physics by involving a particle faster than light speed....

[@justintempus7406]

But if that's true, chocolate wouldn't be an octave of sun energy. Checkmate naturalists!

[@rjsaboya]

@@bobjohn8581 there’s no such thing as a “random theory” in science... what you’re saying is straight up speculation

[@svenpatrickbecker7119]

Sir, as a medical doctor I want to thank you for showing how these snakeoil salesmen deceive their clients and outright put them in actual harm. Thank you for the time and effort you put into your Video, hopefully it will at least prevent that some people fall for these empty and dangerous claims.

[@MichaelMarquez-m3b]

I always find it ironic when people use the term "quantum leap" to indicate a big change when it is literally the minimum size change that is possible.

[@DeathEatsCurry]

Ultimately, if quantum mysticism actually worked, these scam artists could just make their conciousness manifest my credit card details instead of asking me for them.

[@Winasaurus]

Exactly, we all know how shitty these scam artists can be. And you could also know how shitty they are with just 5 easy payments, though you'll have to tell me the card details since I'm not a mysticist grifter. :)

[@snewp_e2139]

Damn, scam artists talking about how consciousness creates reality and how they can manifest whatever they want but they still can’t manifest some pussy

[@catastrophic_biz3608]

Yours ends with 4481

[@noizepusher7594]

@@snewp_e2139 felines are beyond the laws of quantum physics

[@mackenlyparmelee5440]

So I have a pretty extensive background in meditation. i lived in a Buddhist monastery for about a year, and I can tell you a lot of the stuff this whole quantum mysticism crap comes from is actually the verbiage used by meditation teachers to show people how to navigate that mindspace. The word "energy" in this concext generally refers to a perceptual phenomenon known as pitisukha which is essentially the feelings of calmness pervading throughout the body. This has direct correlate in Hindu traditions (prana), Chinese (qi) and even in Christianity (spirit). Even in Buddhism though, we are told specifically to NOT conjecture that this is somehow the ground of all being and that the universe is made of this stuff. To the Buddhists, it's mostly just seen as a perceptual phenomena. Taking it beyond that for us was always a bit of a no-no but I cant really speak of other traditions. It is very easy to see though how that verbiage used specifically to describe meditation gets conflated with the verbiage used in physics to describe, well, physics, to get some bastard pseudo-scientific, pseudo-religious fruitcakery. THEY ARE FUNDAMENTALLY DESCRIBING DIFFERENT THINGS lol.

[@biogopher]

"consciousness creates reality" sounds like someone put "I think therefore I am" through Google translate 100 times

[@memesmojo5622]

nah bro learn Vedanta

[@memesmojo5622]

@Sai Sasank yes,of course,i am not saying that it does. But it does say that consciousness create/is reality

[@shivammishra1720]

I don't know how Deepak Chopra wife survives him.

[@DrGodzilla1954]

@@shivammishra1720 money.

[@shivammishra1720]

@@DrGodzilla1954 That seems a perfect answer because according to me she should be paid for living with him.

[@SerMattzio]

That lunatic cult leader grinning while describing the "positives" of "physical death" was absolutely chilling.

[@avery-u1w]

sometimes i think like that during panic attacks. if i can be like that at my worst, god knows what's going on in that brain.

[@wj11jam78]

That lunatic cult leader grinning while describing the "positives" of "reviving cthulhu" was absolutely chilling.

[@thunderspark1536]

@@wj11jam78 I mean at least (compared to other gods in the verse) Cthulhu isn't a malevolent god per se, he just has no interest in humans. So while you would gain no benefit from reviving him, you wouldn't lose anything either.

[@frostyvoid827]

@@wj11jam78I understood that reference

[@wj11jam78]

@@thunderspark1536 not in the game I'm referencing

[@julioaurelio]

"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it." - André Gide

[@amanita1964]

Beautiful indeed.

[@balladofcoseypolar4711]

So that's a truth? So I'm supposed to doubt this person?

[@fukpoeslaw3613]

why would I believe 'those who are seeking truth' ?

[@mrf1213]

I thought that said, Ariana Grande, at first.

[@robertplatt643]

They would have liked each other.

[@ishathakor]

i do think that whole "this science must be immediately comprehensible to me" thing is very concerning. i'm a former engineering student so i did get fairly far into undergraduate-level physics and maths. i find it very frustrating to talk to people who expect to be able to understand things immediately. even basic physics concepts like newton's laws of motion can take some time to really wrap your head around. i think everyone has the capacity to understand them but there are so many people who refuse to put in the effort to do so. people will get to the first law of motion and start throwing a fit because in real life things like friction exist but they don't want to hear about that. they don't want to hear about normal forces. something doesn't immediately make sense to them so it has to either be magic or a lie. they can't wrap their heads around the idea that it takes more than 2 minutes to learn all of physics. the other day i was talking to flat earthers (a mistake, i know) and i was honestly kind of astounded at how little they cared to understand literally any physics concept. i expect that from the conmen who make a career out of selling flat earth to their followers but i was hoping the regular people would be at least a little bit more willing to actually hear explanations. if i ever offered to explain anything, they wanted me to sum things up in a neat sentence and thought that if it took more explanation than that, then i was definitely lying. some people just don't want to confront the fact that learning things takes more than 30 seconds. personally i think it's because they don't like to feel stupid. i guess no one really does but everyone i know who loves learning new things is very used to feeling stupid. i spend so much of my time doing research on things i don't know anything about and i feel stupid all the time. i'm just used to it by now.

[@philipvipond2669]

Bad energy: being held above a pit of spikes. Good energy: a compressed spring set to push you away from the spikepit and onto a mattress.

[@ianianianianian]

This stuff, especially that Leo guy, would seriously have messed me up if I’d come across it during the times when I dealt with things like psychosis and derealization. Very grateful to have been introduced to creators like Dave instead of those charlatans. They’re so dangerous, especially to people who are vulnerable the way I was.

[@contemplatingspongebob3514]

I was one of those people who were drawn into New Age Spiritualism (NAS) during my scary moments. During this period, I believed that I could talk to dead people, and was really drawn to people like Chopra. Intuition, reincarnation, energy, spirits; I was into all of it. My hallucinations were getting more frequent and intense, and I believe that NAS encouraged these hallucinations and delusions that I had. Luckily, I got out of it before I went in too deep and ended up hurting myself. Needless to say (although we already know), this is dangerous.

[@kamilareeder1493]

Yeah this stuff caused me to relapse in 2019 :( thankfully I had no friends or people around me who were into it so I never went to the extreme of quitting meds and therapy. Eventually my therapist and some good folks on the internet talked me out of it over the course of some months. Started hearing voices and seeing spirits. So much noise. One of the things I like about zen buddhism is the internal silence 😌 it has better life advice too and no mental gymnastics needed.

[@vanissaberg5824]

@@contemplatingspongebob3514 I went through almost the exact same thing as you described. I was questioning my former religion (Mormon fundamentalism) when I got pulled towards the same self help stuff. I thought I was seeing the dead and angels and had all kinds of strange vivid dreams and "visions" (hallucinations I later learned) and people from my family's church started treating me like I was this "spirituality gifted child" like I was "sent by God" to "strengthen their faith" that their church was the only true church or whatever. I figured it out later that it was all in my head and I came out and told my family that I had only been imagining it but I thought it was real but turned out to be false after testing it for any validity. Come to think of it, it was likely a coping mechanism of 'daydreaming' for the amount of stress I was under constantly at the time and was very sleep deprived that it was eating my brain up essentially. My parents were always telling me I was being attacked by "demons" from their religion and that I was "evil" accusing me of doing "black magic" and "witchcraft" and all sorts of crazy things without me even knowing it, that to a kid was absolutely terrifying. All that because I have anxiety, depression and ASD and probably CPTSD from all the false religious threats on my life by saying he wanted me to die. 😬😥

[@mellaberry6353]

I fell into some of it when I was derealizing and depressed. I needed something to believe. Something to hold on to. Now I'm getting out of it slowly and trying to move on. It's hard because the very close friend who got me into it still 110% believes, so i have to completely separate myself from their views of the world while staying close enough to understand and be in their life.

[@JaceDeanLove]

As a schizophrenic, this.

[@XanKreigor]

"If Alternative Medicine actually worked, it would be called Medicine."

[@RustyXXL]

Came to the comments section to leave that here...

[@The-Devils-Advocate]

Exactly.

[@alexeyvlasenko6622]

Alternative medicine is actually very effective at killing cancer. When the patient dies due to lack of actual treatment, the cancer will die as well. Also, the efficacy of alternative medicine is well supported by alternative facts.

[@The-Devils-Advocate]

@@alexeyvlasenko6622 So, lies?

[@crashbunks]

@@The-Devils-Advocate I believe they were making a joke

[@teachingbeats]

You are doing real work here. Society needs people like you more than ever. Thank you. I am an RN and have seen the devastating effects of this on susceptible people who are sick and then hand over what little money they have for this garbage and delay or forgo treatment to a very unfortunate and desperate ending. It happens every day.

[@Zhroomy]

Love how Deepak makes claims, but doesn’t provide any evidence of his claims. Almost like he’s telling people exactly what they want to hear.

[@urbangorilla33]

Yes, people believe what they want to believe and he gives it to them.

[@animezia]

just like jesus, bible has only claims and no evidence lol

[@ivangrotrian1798]

Facts we live in the matrix he wouldn't understand

[@rhyzvanic3660]

Science literacy is a problem for laymen, especially with how things get simplified. It took me years to finally learn that observing quantum mechanics doesn't change the quantum mechanics, but it's actually the process of making those quantum particles observable that is the interaction that change what happens. I will absolutely be watching your more indepth analysis videos.

[@kamilkarwacki9590]

my dude, I have a bachelors in physics and all this simplified science I heard throughout my youth made it sometimes really hard to understand the actual physics. It also took me a long time while I was already studying proper quanum mechanics, to understand that its the measurement and not the observation with a naked eye that observes.

[@JHJHJHJHJH]

Is there an echo in here? Lol

[@AmberyTear]

Wow, I pretty much never hear people realize this. x.x

[@Kakukk321]

@@kamilkarwacki9590 Uhh, but you're still observing the measurment device which is also not collapsed until comes to connection with you.

[@kamilkarwacki9590]

@@Kakukk321 what if my pc reads the result in a digital form and performs actions according to the result. No observing needed

[@jamesstaggs4160]

The thing that bothers me the most about all of these people is they love to bring up scientific discoveries when they think it proves their ideas, but will deny the scientific method when it doesn't.

[@JCW7100]

Exactly

[@MYNAMACHEF]

@@Micscience Please do elaborate on what you mean by "in actual reality, there is no real proof of that"

[@cartesiancircle]

@@Micscience 84% people (Pew 2019) believe in some sort of supernatural entity(the majority of people) does that make it true? Is that the 'conventional thought' to which you refer? If people 'differ' let them hypothesise,test,validate, repeat their non conventional assertions/claims. There is no 'your' side of the scientific data. The scientific data conform to a testable alternative or null hypotheses. Every scientist like every other human are indeed biased and fallible and the scientific method was devised to minimise( but not eradicate) those . Science is provisional,tentative, imperfect and non absolute how could it be any other way? What you can't do is insert,fanciful conjecture,wishful thinking,conspiratorial ideation,pet theories,nebulous imaginings,abstract concepts into the knowledge base without evidence.where would that take us?

[@ajbluesh377]

@@Micscience I want to be shocked. So, show me these peer reviewed studies that cannot be replicated. It shouldn't be hard since you said there are plenty. How much do you want to bet that you will link to a website or video that is run by people with bias themselves. Please send me to these peer reviewed studies you speak of.

[@haushofer100]

As a physicist I'm also intriged by quantum mysticism. But I missed one crucial aspect: the measurement problem. Decoherence explains why interference disappears, but we still don't really understand why we don't measure superpositions. This is an important source of mystical claims. Also, people like Schrödinger and Planck outed viewpoints like idealism, and Pauli had some very mystical ideas himself.

[@cynicalmoose19]

"Everything is Centimeters man, it's all made of Centimeters!"

[@joebloe9901]

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🙈

[@ShaylaTheMouse]

Everything is so greeeen!!

[@spacex6997]

@@ShaylaTheMouse Now listen up, here's a story, about a guy who lives in a blue world

[@rustymason3860]

They've got M O L E C U L E S

[@grantstratton2239]

Vibrations of centimeters

[@timothy8428]

Leo: I learned about everything by thinking about it. The pointy bit on the Dunning Kruger graph: You are here.

[@1221-o7e]

Yep, he's definitely at the bottom-est pit of no return

[@inefffable]

"Deep down, I know this"

[@balladofcoseypolar4711]

Not exactly.

[@erikarneberg11]

Just to clarify: are you saying you learned about EVERYTHING by thinking about it? No-one, and no sources of information outside of your inherent intelligence influenced you in any way? From language to mathematics to, well… EVERYTHING, you came up with it on your own just by thinking about it? Airplanes, automobiles, computers, the light bulb??? Cool! You’re one super-smart dude!!!

[@ghz24]

@@erikarneberg11 whoosh!

[@nihilisticrainbow1621]

I fell for this stuff when my mental health deteriorated. After several hospitalisations I eventually got a diagnosis of bipolar & medication has started to stabilise me. It’s taken over 4 years to feel normal again. This video just brings up how unwell I was, that I preferred alternative treatments over a free healthcare system with trained professionals.

[@capadociaash8003]

Free healthcare? Wish we had that stateside

[@nihilisticrainbow1621]

@@capadociaash8003 I can see why alternative medicine/self help is a bigger problem stateside. The medication costs without insurance are ridiculously high, and the stigma surrounding mental disorders can put you in a state of denial when a professional gives you a diagnosis. Many of these self proclaimed teachers definitely target emotionally vulnerable people with mental issues who want answers.

[@Discipleofthedarkone]

I know a few people with bipolar disorder but I had no idea it could have that effect

[@nihilisticrainbow1621]

@@Discipleofthedarkone it can become very dangerous if left undiagnosed. There are several different types of Bipolar.

[@3thinker652]

Wow you guys are really trying hard

[@null_s3t]

Just to provide some clarification since I’ve seen people on physics forums get confused about work and energy, work is specifically the force applied to an object WHILE IT IS BEING DISPLACED. So no, infinite energy doesn’t exist if you have a frictionless surface and you push something on it. It’s the distance during which you are applying the force that is work.

[@kidbuu1328]

Funny story- I used to believe this nonsense (aka I wanted this to be true so much so that I kinda lost touch with reality) because I was in a pretty dark place back then, but the deeper I'd get into it, the better my understanding of the actual physics would get, to the point I actually got really good at it. One day I snapped out of this delusion and decided to go to university to get a degree in electrical engineering, due to my very strong foundation in maths and physics after a long time of 'truth seeking' lol. I'm now a working engineer and happy with my life hahahahaha

[@jasondaniels640]

Only thing that I still believe is that Enigma is good.. Enya too 🎶

[@Miguel...160]

Well done my friend...i'm working really hard trying to free my wife from this nonsense. We watched the Video for 'What the Bleep do we know' back in 2000 ..however she went on to people like Depak Chopra and currently Joe Dispenza. Nothing is free and always costs. Its a big business New Age Mystism.

[@wabalubadubdubdub]

​@@Miguel...160that's sucks ass. Just getting ripped off by scam artists

[@Charles-pf7zy]

That’s why those spiritual retreats are full of toxic people that have convinced themselves they’re “positive energy”. They’ll gaslight you and act passive aggressive because they truly believe they’re not being manipulative. There’s a reason why mental hospitals strongly discourage patients from contacting each other once released. It’s just a bunch of people in dark places because of bad personality traits that end up in toxic relationships. Some of the craziest relationship stories I’ve heard involve at least one member being a new ager

[@Miguel...160]

@@Charles-pf7zy so true...

[@amerik131]

"The periodic table is NOT a Piano!" I died.

[@anfi7447]

To be fair to the guy saying about octaves, in early forms of the periodic table, someone wanted to order the elements in octaves because they liked music. He was still full of bs though

[@Thomaas551]

When was that?

[@Xeroisawesome]

@@Thomaas551 21:25

[@batugunduz3950]

@@anfi7447 John newlands was his name. Many thanks to the turkish education system for giving me this critical knowledge.

[@CamilleGG451]

"When you realize that you're God, it will instantaneously solve every problem in your life." Tried it- still had to call a plumber for our back bathroom.

[@alexeyvlasenko6622]

Gods can summon various other gods and spirits, like plumbers and elevators, to do their bidding. You know, like if Aphrodite needs a lightning bolt thrown at someone, she doesn't do it herself, she calls up Zeus

[@CamilleGG451]

@@alexeyvlasenko6622 Got it! 😄

[@1221-o7e]

@@alexeyvlasenko6622 still doesn't solve the fact that all leo said has all been disproved

[@alexeyvlasenko6622]

@@1221-o7e Among innumerable other abilities, gods can disprove anything that Leo says?

[@1221-o7e]

@@alexeyvlasenko6622 not that but literally everything else excluding absolute infinity (debatable)

[@prophei]

There is a background to the association between mysticism and quantum physics that isn't just the goofy snake oil stuff you covered in the video. Ancient Hermetic philosophy, which deals with the nature of reality, matter, spirit, etc, described things in terms that sound extremely similar to many popular concepts in Quantum physics. I think this is why this connection became popular. This isn't to say that the Hermetic notions of what is going on are based in fact, but to many there is an allure with the concept that the ancients and the modern keepers of knowledge might be addressing similar concepts. People into Hermetic philosophy often ponder if the ancients might have understood things that we now deal with using Quantum physics, just using different language. These people were also the scientists in ancient times. Obviously, that doesn't make any of that true... but it is nevertheless fun to ponder that kind of connection. Thanks for the great videos.

[@richardjoughin2589]

Thanks Professor Dave, these charlatans need to be held to account. Would love the see a debate with Deepak, but I fear the Gish gallop and nonsensical wordplay from him would make it an exercise in futility

[@sandroelbers]

My mother is a "spiritual healer" and doesn't want to be told the only thing she can beam out of her hands is the placebo effect. But i love this video and it gave me plenty of aguments to use. In addition i bought your book after listening to it on audible. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@dobgamers]

gotta have faith that he is telling the truth

[@sandroelbers]

@@dobgamers no, faith is required for accepting claims. He just points out they're based on pseudoscience, misunderstandings and nonsense

[@Montesama314]

I would rather blast the Hadoken from my hands, I don't know why she is wanting to do something that medicine can already do.

[@connor4169]

What is the placebo effect? It’s mind willing the universe. The placebo effect is such bullshit that scientifically minded people have to control all experiments for it… come on now

[@trexasaurus5322]

If she’s happy with it then why try to ruin it? My grandma is also very into this “energy” and mysticism and rocks have power. But I don’t say anything to her because it makes her happy even tho it’s crazy.

[@davidjamesmarshman94]

As someone that got swept up at a young age in mystics and has really struggled since. I want to give you a really, really big thank you for this video.

[@granthurlburt4062]

Good for you having the will and energy to come back to reality!

[@peebeeoh3210]

@Danijelovski Kanal based Nikola Tesla profile picture comment

[@peebeeoh3210]

@Danijelovski Kanal this is relatable my mother named me Nikola after Tesla, and coincidentally she believes in this stuff too. She thought an illness I had could be treated with all this energy crap. Eventually, when it did not work I was finally able to go on meds that do work and I feel much better now. I wish you luck with your relationship with your mother.

[@Jay-fy5ob]

Same my brain fucking hurts it’s so delusional

[@darthnightstrike1808]

​@Danijelovski Kanal you are impressive, i dont think i wouldve had the drive to do my own chemistry experiments

[@josih5647]

I feel so conflicted. On the one hand, you're absolutely right about what you're saying but on the other, the way the information is presented comes across a little condescending. "Suggestible people." "People who don't require evidence in order to believe something." "Willfully ignorant to the point where they can't even be bothered to google a word." I think what you're trying to do is admirable but it can come across as attacking people who fall for these scams when I truly believe it is not their fault. We all have our biases and as you said, people want to find an identity and feel that their life meant something in the grand scheme of things; I don't think this makes a person stupid. I feel that if you truly want to break through to people who hold these beliefs you would see more success if you rephrased some of your language. I really appreciate all the work that went into this video and don't want to come across as nitpicking too much as it's clear you put in a lot of effort.

[@allisonpinkall577]

I agree! Sometimes I want to believe some of this stuff just to be able to feel like my life has a purpose and so I've gotten more or less caught up in a few of these beliefs on and off over the years since I left religion. Hes really just insulting everyone who has even explored these topics just a little and who just want to know why they exist and have dabbled in these things as complete idiots who don't have a thought in their head and aren't capable of critical thinking at all and I don't think that's true, there's more nuance

[@bman6302]

Agree. U out alot into your message as well and well put.

[@basedkaren51]

This guy is the definition of condescending

[@justyouraveragecorgi]

He isn't calling suggestible people stupid. He's acknowledged in previous videos that anyone can fall for a scam. And I say this as the type of person who wants to believe in this stuff too. I can understand this criticism. I really can. I get it feels condescending. But you have to remember that Dave has spent years of his life studying science and attempting to teach it to people, and-he is constantly barraged with people who absolutely refuse to listen to logic and reason...and by doing so put themselves and others in danger. Is it blunt? Yes. Is it cruel? A bit. But after dealing with this sort of anti establishment shit that can quite literally be deadly for literal years, along with a healthy dose of people calling him every name under the sun and telling him that everything he's studied is dumb and wrong, I can't really blame him for being pissed.

[@thelobsterking1055]

Professor Dave is a bully

[@Fluffkitscripts]

I can’t fucking believe I spent so much time thinking particles would magically change their behavior through the simple act of a person knowing they were there and not knowing it was an issue of measurement techniques. Thanks for explaining actual science, Dave.

[@PoeMcGoodwin]

@@jvo1464 Sabine owns, good recommendation

[@TheCosmicGuy0111]

@@jvo1464 yo got any other good channels like hers?

[@w00tix]

@@TheCosmicGuy0111 PBS Spacetime?

[@TheAGNOSTIC_who_YT_CENSORS]

For some reason this makes me think of how so many people believe humans generally only use only 10% of their brains.

[@Smitology]

@@TheCosmicGuy0111 Science asylum

[@SEOPOFFICIAL]

"Frequency of WHAT?!" -Prof. Dave, Martymer 81, and possibly every person who has a functional brain

[@SEOPOFFICIAL]

@@Kortex42 and you will never get one.

[@aba5026]

I collect rocks and crystals, but not because I think they can heal me (I'm actually planning on studying medicine), but I collect them because they're pretty and shiny and look good on my shelf.

[@vanissaberg5824]

I love collecting cool rocks just like my grandpa did. His hobby was to find rocks and carved them into eggs and had his own rock shop at one point where he used to sell them. So my fondest memory of him was going to the creeks and finding cool rocks for him to carve and he taught us the names of them. I really miss him. He was my 'rock' (pun intended 🙂).

[@aba5026]

@@vanissaberg5824 Your gandpa was really a great man 💪

[@sdani.]

shiny rocks and crystal look cool

[@aba5026]

@@sdani. I agree

[@aba5026]

@Drew Scrivers For rocks I would just stroll down a nearby river and pick up the ones I like, and I'd buy crystals from a small shop in my town.

[@aninternetuser7548]

41:47 I swear to god the way this Leo guy was spouting complete nonsense while smiling into the camera in a way that both signaled "I'm confident so you should listen to me" and "I won't listen to the contrary" made me see red.

[@MrLittletube]

That movie “what the bleep” literally changed my life. I was on a gap year in Australia and I watched it with a group of people and it was the dumbest I ever felt in my entire life. I couldn’t understand what they were saying. I had no interest in science and physics at the time. I had never even heard the word quantum in my life. It was like they were talking a different language. Meanwhile everyone around me was chin stroking and pontificating. When I got home I vowed to never feel that stupid again. I buried my head in science as much as I could. I’ve spent my free time for almost 20 years now just reading about science, astronomy to geology and everything in between. Science is the only thing in my life I care about. I just want to learn. So I thank “what the bleep” for being the catalyst. I’m not by any means smart now. But at least when I watched “what the bleep” recently. I knew enough to know they were talking absolute bullshit. “what the bleep” you made me a science lover. Even if that was not how they intended to do it. (Thanks also professor Dave your delivery is always impeccable. No wasted words. Just truth and facts. Keep it going you deserve nothing but success)

[@GNMbg]

my story is pretty much the same.. conspiracy theories made me love science and the more I learnt the more I realized most conspiracies are bullshit

[@cydelegs]

Awesome

[@klaatoris]

Making fun of flat earthers on the Internet has, as a side effect, taught me a lot about physics and astronomy (although I am still VERY much a novice). That's the good side of pseudoscience!

[@eikosi-ena]

That is seriously awesome. Also - just to keep in mind - whenever you feel stupid listening to some new science or math concept, it's almost a 99% probability the people you're with also feel that way, even if they're trying to act otherwise, unless they've dedicated a significant amount of time and labor studying that topic specifically. I'm in my junior year of my astrophysics degree, and a lot of the time when grad/postgrad students start talking about what they're doing, I ALSO just sit there stupefied. Sounds like pig latin to me! There's no shame in not knowing what specialists (these guys were a hoax, but still) are talking about, since it's their job to know that kinda stuff. At the same time, the fact that you used it as inspiration to dedicate yourself to learning more about it is wonderful. Good on you dude!

[@faerie5926]

@@GNMbg Same- though I fell into more learning about history and archeology.

[@badatgaming9905]

So basically what I've learned is that you can't just magically produce a femboy fox in your room no matter how hard you try. 0/10 worst universe please give me a different one.

[@XraynPR]

A universe without catgirls is also a disappointing one ...

[@badatgaming9905]

@@XraynPR there is many thing I agree and disagree with and in all honesty this has to be the former :)

[@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777]

@@badatgaming9905 Yes. But with Genetic Modification, it is in theory possible...

[@badatgaming9905]

@@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 that isn't magic tho. I wanna use brain waves.

[@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777]

@@badatgaming9905 Well, Magic isn't exactly a thing, so GM catgirls will have to do

[@A77ick]

Today a young man on acid realized all matter is nearly energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there's no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we are the imaginations of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather.

[@fabianbach2615]

Isn't that a quote from some video? I'm sure I've heard that shit before :D

[@A77ick]

@@fabianbach2615 it's from comedian Bill Hicks. The band Tool paid homage to him after his passing on the Aenima album on the song third eye. That is where most people know it from.

[@dr.cheezeguy9093]

WE ARE ETERNAL ALL THIS PAIN IS AN ILLUSION

[@voraxumbra1]

The worst part about these types of people is how bad they make psychedelics, especially when used in a PROFESSIONAL setting, look. These people cant separate the woowoo from the ACTUAL healing process and it makes people who have immense respect for these substances, and are grounded in reality, look bad.. Great video Dave.

[@mbm3155]

I love spirit science, he points out how the martians and space Jews led to our current predicament. I want whatever he’s smoking lol

[@TheBluePhoenix008]

These guys are living in their own high

[@vaiyt]

He copied most of his spiel from Melchizedek, so his drug trip isn't even original.

[@johnboettcher1962]

Bullshit. He's smoking bullshit.

[@rebbecawitt581]

As a Jew I can confirm

[@TimTrOn3000]

Wondering where I could get some of that

[@Drakeblood97]

'I may have stolen your wallet when you weren't looking, but from your perspective it was was nothingness, so did I really steal anything?'

[@Gloomdrake]

"you say I stole your wallet, but that's impossible, since the world only came into existence 5 seconds ago"

[@kenpanderz672]

anytime you might feel like this is a relatively harmless alternatives to painkillers, imagine a cancer victim not getting potentially lifesaving treatment because someone convinced them that they can heal their cancer with "mental vibrations".

[@marienbad2]

@Pisstake weirdly relevant username given the weird events you relate

[@1221-o7e]

That's just stupid even by hearing it

[@mountainmikeoutdoors]

My friends mom tried that after the doctors gave her a terminal diagnosis and it actually killed her faster because of the stress involved.

[@megaultradamn]

Hence Steve Jobs

[@natalyrausch]

My mother in law has stage 1 pancreatic cancer and has refused to do chemo and surgery, but is instead taking a horse de-wormer, vitamin c, and wants to pay some quack 16k to do alternative treatment on her in Kansas City… really hard not to feel like she’s purposely killing herself and I don’t know how not to feel angry at these charlatans.

[@ckwind1971]

In my early 20s (30 years ago) I was exposed to the mysticism nonsense by my boss at the mall. She was an ex-Scientologist who purported to see fairies and heal herself. I read a few books by Chopra and others. My boss, if you were ill, would say archly "That's an interesting choice." Since then I've become interested in actual science, so I've been exposed to many versions of explanations for the double-slit experiment, from the magical to the technical (by which i mean math included). This was so helpful to my actual understanding of the experiment. I really appreciate the simple underlying principle that sort of puts it in perspective. Great video thanks

[@harrisondorn7091]

I'm a bit ashamed to admit I still believed some of these things.. My family was really into The Secret, crystals, auras, and I thought I had moved away from it, but turns out I accepted a lot as real science, like the double slit experiment showing everything is a construct, vibrational frequencies, sacred geometry, etc. Gosh, it's so stupid and dangerous now that you actually break it down. The way you describe it as a secular religion shook me a bit. So thanks, keep doing these videos.

[@San_Vito]

Congrats on getting out!

[@kjl3080]

@@CynicalBastard science isn’t a religion we don’t blindly believe unlike religion

[@alexeyvlasenko6622]

@@CynicalBastard Never heard of "scientism", and "science" is only a set of methods for constructing and updating mental models of the world in a way that maximizes their predictive power. There is no "religious belief"; you simply make predictions about the world using your best available mental models, and if the predictions turn out to be false, then your mental model is wrong and you change your mind. If there are things you can't predict at all, then the mental model is incomplete and you try to extend it to predict these unknown things as well. Of course, all mental models will always be false or incomplete in some way - but the goal isn't perfection, it's improvement. One could argue that the goal of optimizing predictive power is a "religious" one - but it's not a moral imperative or dogma, it simply has practical applications. If you can predict how the world responds to different situations, you can control aspects of the world that were previously mysterious and unpredictable, like electricity or treatment of disease.

[@RatZapTshirt]

@@alexeyvlasenko6622 'Scientism' really is a thing, unfortunately. Basically, it's materialism. I.e., if there's no scientifically testable hypothesis for it, it doesn't exist. Broadly applied, it means a rejection of anything that isn't scientifically proven. So you can see why the term gets thrown around a lot by people pitching woo. They want to contrast their 'open-mindedness' with something that's sufficiently closed-minded.

[@fduranthesee]

@@RatZapTshirt Or “worshipping Science to the point where it becomes a religion”

[@Syntaxxed]

Honestly, I have to admit I was one of those people that believed in such things. It came from a deep need to understand life, the universe and everything. At some point I did realise it was all bullshi. Flash forward to now and I'm pursuing an education in mathematic/science :)

[@orion7881]

I'm happy for you.

[@Syntaxxed]

@@orion7881 thank you!

[@alibaghdady9710]

I respect you so much. It is harder to realize that your beliefs are wrong, rather than stay stubborn about your beliefs. Even if you're right, you must always challenge your beliefs. Reading your comment made me happy and proud of you

[@lapislazarus8899]

The answer to life, the universe, everything! Is forty-two.

[@Nothing-yo5uo]

@@lapislazarus8899 What?

[@906robot9]

"He is a third-degree black belt in the art of pseudoscientific word salad" this had me dying 😆

[@mrhdbnger]

That was some top notch wordsmithy. I was deeply impressed as well.

[@chrispicciuolo3225]

Meditation did cure my POTS though…. Meditation and deep breathing actually can help heal a dysfunctional nervous system though. I do agree with everything else in your video but trauma does often show up in the body as health issues, look at the ACE score (research showing childhood trauma is connected to the development of diseases). So, healing from the emotional effects of trauma can legitimately impact health issues. I held so much tension in my body before, I clenched my muscles which caused fibromyalgia like pain, I used to grind my teeth, and it used to get so stressed that my heart would race. So yes, working on my emotional state (fixing my thoughts) did impact my physical health. I’m disabled librarian and on SSDI so I’ve been in search of evidence based ways to heal and I can assure you, my POTS went away from meditation and mindfulness work. However, I don’t think healing trauma and working on your emotional a state to improve physical health has anything to do with anything mystical. However the placebo effect *is* real so if someone believes in quantum healing enough they may find some subtle benefit, right ? So I feel like this video is a little misleading with its understanding of the mind body connection, although I agree that all this quantum healing mystical stuff, in general, is total pseudoscience and not rooted in reality.

[@icewaterforblood]

It’s the power of people’s minds that is underestimated. The placebo effect, for example is VERY well documented. If you think something will make you better, sometimes, it actually does. Nothing to do with chakras, but it still happens. Brilliant comment, because to completely rubbish the idea of your mind affecting your body is a silly thing to do.

[@soniavecchini9658]

If done right and under the guidance of actual medical practitioners, I’m sure meditation and mindfulness exercises work wonders. That said, the point of the video wasn’t to shit on these kinds of treatments, as it talks about deceptive and borderline criminal organizations that exploit their followers’ poor understanding of basic scientific concepts to spread lies and sell self-help courses. What I’m saying is your comment may even come across as disingenuous under a video like this, especially when you say that it’s ok if people can find suble benefit in believing quantum mysticism and the likes: there’s absolutely nothing positive to learn or take away from the works of con men and charlatans, only lessons on what to avoid at best.

[@RegiArt7]

That makes sense. If you have trauma or nervousness, taking a break from everything and slowing down will help.

[@colclark107]

Reminds me of a quote attributed to Richard Feynman: if you think you understand quantum mechanics, then you don’t.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Stop putting Feynman on a pedestal.

[@angelisvegan5826]

@@NeverTalkToCops1 but he literally said that

[@erikawimmer7908]

@@NeverTalkToCops1 yes he did. And he was great;)

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@NeverTalkToCops1 Could he have been on there and off simultaneously? ShroHumdinger's cat would have pushed him off anyway as cats do.

[@jmarch_503]

@@NeverTalkToCops1 i hope you actually never talk to cops , find your own shit after a burglary lol

[@wrathofainz]

"If a tree falls unobserved in a forest, does it make a sound?" Quantum mystics: "There is no tree"

[@meenapatel1648]

I mean the basics of many of these branches are that "this whole world is an illusion" so ofc tree doesn't exist 🤟

[@meijuta]

it makes air virbrations, but with no one to observe them, no sound.

[@wrathofainz]

@@meijuta 'Vibrations aren't sound unless they're observed' - Knight Of Kaiju Finally, a reliable way to make a silent explosion: kill all observers beforehand.

[@hadikhan5197]

Speaking from experience the Mystical Answer would be “You’re the Tree, the Forest and the Sound” followed by a “Look within yourself and You’ll find All the Answers You seek” preceded by a list of Exotic Items sold left of the Reception Counter personally prepared by the Gloriously Illuminated Wise teacher, reincarnation of an Older Teacher, during his Deep Meditation sessions.

[@meijuta]

sounds legit

[@rosengrenj9]

I grew up in a family that believes/practices this stuff, it's only been in the past year that I've started realizing how bogus it actually is. Thanks for putting all my thoughts into words, Dave! Keep doing what you're doing!

[@thediaz07]

Dave didn't disprove much but the cons within the community.

[@madhands9887]

Wow, you know most scientists that defined the world believed in God and spirituality.

[@hanswurst5433]

@@madhands9887 no they didn't stupid

[@crazycontraptions1249]

@@madhands9887 source?

[@pascalsimioli6777]

@@madhands9887 "most scientists cook with sugar instead of salt" Ah, so it's almost like they aren't expert in a field other than theirs, I see.

[@ValseInstrumentalist]

Another thing worth noting is that the octave is an entirely Western construction, originating from the Greek modes, which probably originated from the Fertile Crescent (who knows how long ago). Cultures around the world used different sets of frequencies in their music, and many didn't even use eight notes to a scale. Even the Western scale of twelve tones making up scales of eight notes isn't absolute--we now tend to use equal temperament to accommodate chromatic instruments, but there are various other temperaments with different frequencies for different notes in the scale. 20th century musicians and musicologists constructed scales with even more frequency steps, such as Harry Partch's 43-tone scale. There are even older instruments like the archicembalo with 36 keys to an octave--arranged in Western keyboard style but with extra frequencies to enable playing in other temperaments. I say this to illustrate that the "octave" of eight notes in a scale with four chromatic notes is arbitrary. Traditional Western music theory gives us an extreme bias, but a scale can be made of infinite frequencies.