Empress Theresa | Down the Rabbit Hole

[@MoonScentedHoonter]

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM YEEEEEEEEEEEEE DATS A SUM GOOD SHITTTTT KEEEEEEEP IT COMING DADDIO

[@Witw420]

Dick Buttox I

[@lordfriezaspacenapolehitle9065]

I have ascended.

[@MoonScentedHoonter]

pls no step on snek

[@gamemaniac2013]

Dick Buttox Boop Snoot.

[@nathancurnutt8074]

Dick Buttox please tell me how a phrase from my state became a meme?

[@krampuskardashian5890]

I am convinced that Norman wants Theresa to step on him.

[@afiamahmood1313]

He probably wants more than that....

[@Texelion]

I am convinced that Norman dresses up as Theresa, acts as Theresa, and think he's Theresa...

[@dltr4730]

In the book there are very interesting descriptions of how the teenage girl looks, if u know what I mean

[@p3bblez]

considering that she's 'legally married' despite being only a teenager, i wonder _who_ she's married too. until i realized that person who she is married too could be Norman himself

[@markvickroy6725]

😂😂😂😂

[@gspendlove]

"This is not a book to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force." _--Dorothy Parker_

[@SariEverna]

Preferably at its author.

[@Ramsey276one]

@@SariEverna or a powerful source of fire or other type of disintegration XD

[@slevinchannel7589]

Wow. What B-S: Theresa really made herself, with her 18 Years old and Catholic Background, the Center of S-Jokes? While on Camera? With the biggest Audience ever? Wow. This Author is a Shame. A Shame just for tha alone. I have no kid-friendly ways to describe this Author for that Epic Fail alone.

[@slevinchannel7589]

Now we have had much Fun studying something terribly bad (Queen Therista or whatever the name was), lets study something good; especially if you wanna become a Writer yourself! The so-called BEST Magic-System/Power-System in Fiction: 'Nen' from 'HxH'!!

[@Lucy666Fernandez]

@@slevinchannel7589 Somehow none of what you wrote makes any sense. What exactly is your point?

[@user-gp5yz5yz4x]

"Empress Theresa is not a bad book, neither is it terrible book. It is one of those things that convinced me of the infinite mercy of god, anything less than infinite mercy would have incinerated this book before it was unleashed on an unsuspecting public" God damn

[@luvlols4462]

I love literary savagery 🔥

[@nenesimone]

Zing! Zap!

[@ebc6970]

rare insults material

[@haruki456]

I would have to give up if I saw that review. But I have humility.

[@snehajjeevan581]

Are we going to ignore the fact that the guy who commented this compared the Book to 50 cent?

[@peachshandy]

I'm so late to this, but Boutin just sent a poorly written letter in size 18 font directly to the English department I teach in last month, telling us we must add his book to our curriculum and teach it .

[@NapaCat]

wow

[@NapaCat]

Like... why doesn't he just manually insert himself into the blacklist already

[@RetroPlus]

You can't be serious

[@gz5405]

Good to hear the old dog is still kicking and up to his old tricks

[@DestructionatorWitch]

Are you for real?

[@MrMcJazzhands]

I feel like Amazon set up that comment limit without thinking it would ever be reached.

[@th3rasave]

Or maybe they predicted it, and didn't want people to was their entire lives arguing with a dumbass?

[@v5in88]

Spider Doctor not a dumbnass, a narcisist

[@Ramsey276one]

@@th3rasave like LTG blacklisted every one that wins against him and MAXED THE CONSOLES' BLACKLIST??

[@BradyPostma]

People who make websites usually plan for some practical limits to quantities or sizes of data being stored. These predictions often miss the mark badly, and are reformed multiple times over the first few years of the site's life cycle. Professionals usually know this and deliberately leave plenty of room, with high quantity limits and large data size limits unless there are material reasons not to. Based on this, I suspect Amazon left that 10,000 comment cap in place deliberately, to prevent little fringe universes like this from continuing eternally. Otherwise, the limit would probably be a 64-bit unsigned integer, and the heat death of the universe would precede the death of that idiotic debate.

[@iamathousandapples]

@@v5in88 a little bit of column a, a little bit of column b

[@EmperorSigismund]

I think he wrote more defending his book in a few months than he did writing that book over 40 years.

[@MogofWar]

EmperorSigismund Methinks he lied about how long he actively worked on the book to deflect criticism.

[@matincatrat]

@@MogofWar exactly. He was definitely too lazy to fulfill his actual personal quotas

[@lainhikaru5657]

How does he took 40 years to make just a 400 page book is a mystery too

[@Septimus_ii]

I don't think his defense was any more coherent than his book, though

[@KiraSlith]

@Timothy McCaskey Most big KZbinrs have that problem sadly.

[@SpydersByte]

1:25 "a book about a good girl, with no sex, foul language, or violence" so wait, why did the reviews mention the constant cussing, the remarks on her breasts and whether or not she had had sex before marriage, and how she was a sniper or how they tried to kill her with an A-bomb? What?!?! Doesn't that violate literally EVERYTHING he said about the book?!?!

[@thesuperpunmaster6369]

Yup

[@hassanbeydoun2460]

I initially thought he (the author) was trying to say that about the book so that when someone reads it they say "Wow! The opposite of what I was expecting happened!" Either that or he tried to clickbait people by convincing the people willing to buy the book that the character has certain characteristics/behaviors when in fact the character did not have said characteristics/behaviors 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@v5in88]

Its basically literary clickbait

[@googiegress]

@@v5in88 Readbait

[@dyveira]

Well, he's a dumbass and a hypocrite. Not sure what you expected.

[@hotelmario510]

I like how "They left no trace of their new sparring location" is written as if they're ancient gods who clashed and vanished when the world needed them most

[@faerae2]

"Heroic Teenage Girl" " *happily married* " what

[@BJGvideos]

You can legally get married in the US at 17.

[@avragetrinidadian3787]

According to the wiki, she got married because "she could not wait to do it" with a guy who suddenly confessed he was in love with her...

[@avragetrinidadian3787]

This happens right after he comes in as she was about to make a guy she was not too interested in, jealous because he broke up with her and hooked back up with his ex.

[@singrids4014]

@@avragetrinidadian3787 Thank you for saving me the trouble of actually reading the book.

[@avragetrinidadian3787]

@@singrids4014 you better be, think I lost a few years off my life reading that wiki

[@Lorendrawn]

The best thing about this book's Amazon page is that there is only one related purchase item. Customers who bought this product also bought a shibari rope bondage lube applicator. How even.

[@urrsys9765]

I can guarantee that any answer to the hows and evens of that middle sentence are beyond even the most fantastical ideals of human comprehension. (But I can probably guess.)

[@CakeDoctorate]

For some strange reason that makes absolute sense to me

[@ArminAwesome]

For me it was Marx' Capital. Hilarious and thought provoking at the same time.

[@AshenAlbaz0079]

Not even Eldrich horrors can wrap their tentacles around it so dont feel bad about it

[@cerisejones8061]

Or rope lmao

[@davidharing6475]

"Proof he has never seen a woman as he has no idea where breasts belong." That might be the harshest artistic criticism I have ever heard.

[@chaossmith3864]

@ Tbf, true. Even if you get them right sometimes, you may fail others. Had a pic I did that for some reason they kept coming out lopsided. Just kinda accepted it cause I was tired of fighting a boob.

[@romanov3937]

That was a harsh burn.

[@DapperDill]

If breasts were where he thought they were, millions of women would accidentally smother themselves in their sleep.

[@someoneelse293]

Not all women keep them in the same place... ive seem them both lower and higher than depicted in his cover ( and no, I'm not the author lol)

[@bewareofbear3576]

Its not so bad if you remember that Michelangelo couldn't quite get the place right too

[@saunders4419]

Lets assume for a moment that Norman told the truth when he claimed that he had rejected a hundred ideas only to keep the best. Can you imagine what batshit crazy stuff he had to have thought up if the Cokebottle Escape is the best one?

[@Snazzy12341]

Those other idea are likely good ideas, but Norman’s just a bad writer so he discarded it because he thought it was bad

[@Ramsey276one]

I had forgotten THAT I can understand why XD

[@IamDarkeye]

Sea turtles, mate

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@IamDarkeye Now we have had much Fun studying something terribly bad (Queen Therista or whatever the name was), lets study something good; especially if you wanna become a Writer yourself! The so-called BEST Magic-System/Power-System in Fiction: 'Nen' from 'HxH'!! OR the so-called BEST 'Dry Humor' from 'Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.

[@violetweavile7908]

If he rejected a hundred ideas over 40 years of work, that means he had on average only 2.5 ideas per year. That seems like the correct amount of brain activity to produce this result

[@fortifyjoy]

this has literally inspired me to try writing a book. it has shown me that literally anyone can do it, and that no matter what I produce, it can't be this bad.

[@AugustusBohn0]

good! writing can be rewarding and I wish you luck

[@third-ratedude4234]

Good luck, mate! And remember, dont be like Norman Boutin, always listen to valid criticism

[@FizzieWebb]

Nor can it be as bad as One Extraordinary Time.

[@googiegress]

Learn from Norman's mistake. Instead of pouring thousands of hours into fighting about your bad book, spend that time writing more bad books. *cash register sounds*

[@bonsouthall960]

Literally how many times will you be using the word "literally"?

[@blayne4343]

Don't judge a book by its cover- this book is much worse than its cover..

[@merrittanimation7721]

Highest Horse Nice

[@LaOxidada]

Merritt Animation Mmmmm, nice.

[@strandedcat8598]

This comment made my day

[@Sypaka]

did someone notice, her Uniform has buttons there, where the nipples would be? This can't be comfortable.

[@LaOxidada]

I mean, it would be if this thing on the cover was a human, which this thing is most certainly not.

[@WolfeSpeider]

"loved by everybody ( even China wants her to take herself out of danger )," what

[@hibubgames7667]

WolfeSpeider Saturn wants me safe, what about you?

[@oz_jones]

+Samuel Woolrich countries are referred to as females in English language. That doesn't make that sentence less bad tho

[@nicholasgeere5125]

Samuel Woolrich no its chyna the wrestler

[@mistertagomago7974]

I think he was calling China a sexist country that hates women, but shes so great even China likes her.

[@besaidknight]

Nah, China loves women, they just didn't think the poor cared enough about their family lineages to kill their daughters during the whole one kid thing. They just figured their rich sons would have their pick of the girls in a fifty fifty ratio society , but instead their sons are greeted with a sausage fest! XD

[@gustavoaguado5449]

We need a movie adaptation of Empress Theresa directed by Neil Breen. Also starring Neil Breen as Theresa.

[@lewiskazinsky7334]

Screenplay by Tommy Wiseau. Norman Boutin adapted by Wiseau and presented by Breen = holy trinity

[@slevinchannel7589]

Now we have had much Fun studying something terribly bad (Queen Therista or whatever the name was), lets study something good; especially if you wanna become a Writer yourself! The so-called BEST Magic-System/Power-System in Fiction: 'Nen' from 'HxH'!!

[@None-Trick_Pony]

I'm imagining Neil Breen in a wig controlling HAL using 26 laptops at once.

[@gustavoaguado5449]

@@None-Trick_Pony 😅

[@SanMarcosBlanket]

I mean Neil in most of his movies is an alien

[@doesanythingmatter1326]

Just when I was thinking i spend too much time playing video games, I find out there was a small army spending months trying to make a crazy old man admit he was wrong.

[@boojum1769]

truly passionate engagement just the same, high five!!

[@TheGuardDuck]

Go back to the games, you missed nothing.

[@stephenskinner7207]

That's not a suggestion of how you should be spending your time.

[@slappy8941]

Everyone needs a hobby, I suppose.

[@ezraf.7759]

There's thousands of things more productive than arguing with strangers over the internet, so that's not saying much.

[@FrenchDavid50]

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?!

[@nicklewis470]

I love the young people

[@pug_of_worlds]

_HE'S GONNA KICK MY BUTT!_

[@MeatEatingVegan777]

This is why I love youtube comments.

[@breakdancingninja8177]

Now he's gonna kick MY butt!!!

[@viciousKev]

SO! You like kicking people's butts do ya!

[@horrortackleharry]

One invaluable lesson I've learned in life: always avoid people who boast about their 'IQ'.

[@Damo2690]

IQ is all bullshit

[@dreadlordhg360]

people who say they’re not that smart are usually smarter than people who brag about high IQ.

[@failinginamerica]

t. DeShawn

[@GameyRaccoon]

@thunder key >calls a subreddit a board. >thinking.jpeg

[@Potato-Eye]

My boy, what up. Still in cali?

[@addambelmont3050]

There's a blink and you'll miss it line where Teresa's husband Steve mentions his name was once Norman. Make of that what you will.

[@morbidhime]

Creepy

[@poesmascaradep4134]

"The difference between you and Harper Lee, is that you are not Harper Lee" A murder was witnessed by everyone but the victim, who is now a ghost, still thinking it's better then Harper Lee.

[@Ramsey276one]

LOVE THIS XD

[@slevinchannel7589]

Now we have had much Fun studying something terribly bad (Queen Therista or whatever the name was), lets study something good; especially if you wanna become a Writer yourself! The so-called BEST Magic-System/Power-System in Fiction: 'Nen' from 'HxH'!! OR the so-called BEST 'Dry Humor' from 'Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.

[@Ramsey276one]

@@slevinchannel7589 will do! XD

[@WillieManga]

OP was Atticus Finch and Norman was the rabbid dog he snipes.

[@simontatton5424]

*than*

[@jhorseman3410]

I mean to be fair: Having an ego so big that it can reach the Amazon comment limit, is kind of impressive, isn't it?

[@kobaltsteel6418]

I mean 10,000 comments!!?? Amazing!!!

[@dacypher22]

I know it will probably never be answered but I have to wonder if this is the only time that limit has ever been hit. Ten thousand comments?! It took a group of dedicated people years to hit it.

[@donemerson699]

No, its kind of pathetic.

[@wardedthorn6523]

According to modern psychology, narcissists actually have terribly small egos and just overcompensate by constantly lying to themselves. In other words, he's defensive, not confident.

[@dacypher22]

You know the person who got the last word in before it was locked had their day absolutely made. "That is it. End of story. I win."

[@DuranMK2]

My favorite part of the story is when Theresa buys eleven extra bottles of soda (in the cafeteria of a building full of people who are supposed to be trying to kill her) as part of a plan to escape death by atom bomb, despite not having any knowledge about the plan to kill her that she uses the soda bottles to try and escape from. So, in other words, she buys and proceeds to carry around eleven bottles of soda for literally no in-universe reason. Made even better because the escape plan basically fails and she dies anyway, but gets resurrected because alien jizz magic. That's not even a joke, all of that actually happens in the book.

[@josephoyek6574]

Dafuq???

[@addicted2mako]

I can picture her dragging along a garbage bag full of cokes like a little kid dragging along their favorite blankie XD

[@same_ole_lemonz4195]

holy shit, the more comments I read, the more I want to read the book, it's like a car accident your friends witnessed and are telling everyone about, and you are just sad you were not there to see it too.

[@addicted2mako]

@@same_ole_lemonz4195 KrimsonRogue reviewed the book, so if you don't want to contribute $ to Norman Boutin and his ego, I recommend seeing those videos first

[@eldrichnemo9312]

I will never get over how her ability at perfect aim which turned into teenage softball career at the national level didn't exist as as setup for her using those eleven shaken up soda bottles as grenades once she was on the aircraft carrier tarmac. Between her aim and her super-strength she could have threatened to set the nuclear device off with one throw, saving her life and still giving her the upper hand to demand to speak to UK's Prime Minister since her own country betrayed her. Wasted potential.

[@omarservin9773]

In the end, Norman managed to keep his book relevant, sold books, and had a devoted yet, critical audience who regularly interacted and read his book. I'd say Norman did quite well for himself in his situation

[@thewhompingwampa2671]

"Negative attention is still attention" - Some guy circa I don't fucking know.

[@aiyan7435]

@@thewhompingwampa2671 it’s from the 48 laws of power, which quoted it from some other dude that i don’t know either.......

[@Ramsey276one]

@@aiyan7435 Thanks for the lead XD

[@lionheart6176]

So he somehow became Tommy Wiseau of literature world

[@TheCorrodedMan]

@@lionheart6176 No, Tommy is at least lovable in his own way. Norman just makes me want to grab him by the throat and throttle some sense into him, preferably breaking a few bones in the process.

[@imnothere6696]

Onison and Norman need to get together and write the worst book imaginable

[@fulcrum6760]

I'm not here Norman would never work with that pedo.

[@opticalraven1935]

That'll cause a break in the space/time continuum.

[@BlakeGeometrio]

CP: The Book

[@ergogrrl]

Absolutely not. ABSOLUTELY NOT. I will sue God if this happens.

[@unnamed7485]

I dunno, My Immortal is pretty fierce competition

[@JamesEDonaldson]

So, a rubbish book that no one should have read sells thousands as people want to find out what the crazy author is on about. Norman is a genius.

[@thealleys]

That and/or a top tier troll.

[@fuddyruckers3]

No joke. I want to know how many copies were actually sold. Sounds like he duped a lot of people into buying a terrible book, then continued to profit by"defending" it. I think when he says "people don't understand what the book is about" is a subtle hint that he's exposing people to be that stupid

[@ukewithme6792]

@@thealleys yeah, that's exactly what he said actually. Aren't top tier trolls geniuses anyways?

[@SpiralPoli]

Sounds similar to Sonichu

[@LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit]

>So, a rubbish book that no one should have read sells thousands as people want to find out what the crazy author is on about. Well, just thouSAND, according to his poorly-designed website he's sold 1,086 copies as of the first quarter of 2021 (Considering he's still listing numbers as I'm talking, we can assume this is accurate). Let's be nice and assume all that is hard copy sales, he didn't include digital yet. Let's be nice even further and say that he printed them in 100-book increments from the printer, so each book costs on average $10 to print. He's selling it on Amazon for $12.50, so that means that roughly $10 is already off from manufacturing costs, then another $0.99 because that's how much Amazon takes per book sale, so he's making $1.51 per book. Now let's just assume this is all the costs associated, no taxes, miscellaneous costs, whatever. Its a flat $10 per book to make, $0.99 goes to Amazon, and $1.51 is your profit. In the span of 7 years, he's made, a rough estimate, $1640 in profits. Or in the bestter case scenario, let's say he's making $2.50 instead, because he gets a deal from the printer: that cranks it up by a grand at $2,710. Again, this isn't monthly income from sales, this is overall. So overall, in the 5 years it took him to write Empress Theresa and over 7 years of the book being in the market, Norman's profits covered about 1-2 months of living expenses in your average city (not including rent). In regards to digital sales, Norman didn't provide any details for it, so I'm going to assume its inconsequential compared to the books (since knowing Norman he'd likely boast how many downloads ET had), but let's just assume around 500 copies sold, more or less. The cost of the ebook is $3 and Amazon takes 30% of the sales, so he's taking home about $2.10, which isn't a lot more than his booksales. TL;DR: Norman's a nitwit. And remember, the numbers I provided were being generous. They could be worse, which means Norman could have made less than what I estimated. I haven't factored in taxes.

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

I honestly feel bad for this guy. He spent his whole sheltered life creating what he thought was a masterpiece, only to run right into the brick wall of the reality that his creation was shit. “This took me three months to paint” was both cringey and heart wrenching. With some proper art skills and writing direction, he could’ve made a decent storyline. He’s probably too old and set in his ways now though.

[@randomcenturion7264]

Yeah. It's pathetic and tragic at the same time.

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

Finbar Brolly He has the pieces for what sounds like a cool premise. A teenager becoming an empress. With the right writing skills, that’s a fun concept. But this, this is just more sad than funny. Such wasted potential.

[@goobiusthetrafficcone1438]

He's like a Pupkin from King of Comedy type of character, pathetic and narcissistic but you still feel for him.

[@thehermit8618]

@@TheNightWatcher1385 more like a teenager becoming God Empress of the world. From what i've read of the book and of descriptions online, Theresa becomes something of an omniscient, omnipotent goddess

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

It Just Works Strange

[@DestructionatorWitch]

This actually reminds me of Sonichu a LOT, in the sense that both stories have a "hero" character with unfathomable power, using their powers for "good" according to the author, but readers can see that the actions of the "hero" are actually unintentionally terrible.

[@Wag1blad]

my god I just found out about Chris chan and did a deep dive into that, and yes sonichu and Theresa inhabit the same dimension.

[@DestructionatorWitch]

@@Wag1blad a dimension in which all background characters live in fear under the reign of a chaotic god-like tyrant of false righteousness

[@CollegeDroputPowerpoints]

Youre the second person in here who made that connection so far XD

[@pauline1809]

THIS BOOK HAS LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME PLOT AS ONE OF ONISIONS

[@chem9773]

Now u mention it,yeah it really a same plot... But onision need to work harder to reach 400++ pages novel

[@highadmiraljt5853]

Is it the one where he killed god

[@pauline1809]

@@highadmiraljt5853 yea

[@DopeioThePhoneBoi]

*HOLY SHIT, IT DOES-* THE ONLY THING MISSING IS ALL THE DADDY ISSUES AND NARCISSISTIC GOD KILLING, I'M GONNA FUCKING CRY-

[@avocado3-in-182]

Norman Boutin is probably Onision’s pen name

[@Sarah.Riedel]

"Theresa can't be defeated." THEN WHAT IS EVEN THE POINT OF THE DAMN BOOK??!

[@aboundingvampirekiller2048]

Its Sonichu in a Dress and Pumps.

[@anonymouscat02]

Seems like Norman took Mary Sue to the next level

[@bacht4799]

Inspection to modern movie making like The Last Jedi ..

[@paolo2763]

We all must surrender to our new goddess

[@Foreststrike]

She can't be defeated, but she CAN die. I smell a SCP, and it needs to be contained with [REDACTED]'s and [DATA EXPUNGED]'s. ASAP. Right now. Chop-chop.

[@TheRetsekShow2236]

"... convinces me of the infinite mercy of God." Omg that is such a beautiful roast. Like music to my ears

[@judahosborne8868]

It's fine to write a bad book or make a bad cover. Everyone starts somewhere. It's completely fine to be proud of your work, and even to be kinda hurt when someone gives criticism of any kind. What's not fine, is to act childish and retaliate at critics who were just trying to help. What's downright stupid, is to do it on the internet.

[@fatihnri2484]

Very true.

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@fatihnri2484 Now we have had much Fun studying something terribly bad (Queen Therista or whatever the name was), lets study something good; especially if you wanna become a Writer yourself! The so-called BEST Magic-System/Power-System in Fiction: 'Nen' from 'HxH'!! OR the so-called Best 'Dry Humor' from 'Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.

[@slevinchannel7589]

To your info: Krimson Rogue, Cynical Reviews, and Both of them Together, have made each multiple Videos about Empress Theresa and they are very enjoyable.

[@Vitorruy1]

I think its silly to expect otherwise given we are talking about an old dude who spend 40 years on a book he thought it was a materpiece.

[@iMajoraGaming]

@@Vitorruy1 materpiece git r dun

[@FumblsTheSniper]

There is a wonderful channel called “KrimsonRogue” that is going over this book. First part was about an hour and a half and maybe covered the first quarter of the book.

[@arontavares5248]

Nah, it only covered the first 3 or 4 chapters out of... 40, I believe? We're in for a long ride on this one. Strap in, bud.

[@ahardworker2154]

Poor bastard

[@TheJuliana0901]

Oh no. That poor man. I already watched him suffer so much

[@MrHangman56]

oh i just started watching his reviews of this. they're hilarious

[@thehermit8618]

@@MrHangman56 and he isn't just dragging Norman through the mud (mostly). Krimson is actually providing real constructive critcism and explaining why the set-up, plot and prose of Norman doesn't work; giving us valuable lessons of what NOT to do if we ever want to write a book. As a serious novel? Empress Theresa fails in pretty much every way As a case study of how not to write a novel? Its a marvelous example and from Norman's mistakes (which there are a lot) and Krimson's insight you can learn much

[@drenchedinsyrupp6059]

Fredrik is like a private investigator. He finds out so much info so fast, and the music makes it sound like he's in a 50's crime movie.

[@Doombringer_r]

I know right?

[@jlprizm]

I was thinking this too. How does he know so much about these people?

[@audreymuzingo933]

This is only the 3rd video of DTRH I've watched since discovering it last night; the other two were the Mouse Eutopia Experiments and Collyer Brothers, both pretty fascinating historical stories, and well-told by Knudsen. So I subscribed and just from looking at other titles I don't think I'll regret it. But this Empress Theresa one was a head-scratcher. I watched the whole thing, basically a play-by-play of the sort of internet art validity debates that happen all the time. And nothing more? I kept thinking there would be a punchline, a payoff of some sort. It would turn out that most of the author's critics were actually him, and the controversy resulted in him getting filthy rich from sales of his bad book. Or it would be revealed that the book was written by a world-renowned author, as some kind of experiment, or evidence that he had lost his mind. Or various forms of evidence would suggest the book was written by Donald Trump, LOL! Something like that. But no, the story basically ends with the inability of people to comment on the book anymore, and that's all folks! --It doesn't even offer details like how many copies were sold, or much of who this guy really was, only the claims he made about himself. If his interactions with people online was so interesting, didn't anybody try doing some deep research on him? Is he still alive? There's something very 'meta' about this sensationalizing video about the sensationalizing of a lousy book.

[@oddkoe808]

Yeah, the way the video progresses, and the music; it feels like a crime noir. Lol

[@audreymuzingo933]

Saransh LOL, the word 'punch' being part of 'punchline' is no accident; it means the amusing conclusion of the setup, something 'punchy,' something 'BAM.' A 15-minute description of a 40 year failure whose public aspect just fizzled out at the end....that's the opposite of a punchline. The way the video plays out feels very much like a lead-up to something that would make the tedium worthwhile. Even you admit you expect something else.

[@HailSatanLLC]

Empress Theresa is the Fallout 76 of books. In that, the bullshit around the book is a lot more interesting than the book itself.

[@Eagledude131]

Fallout 76 got... arguably better though, Empress Theresa got worse every time the author wrote another word on it

[@user-gu7yo5yn9g]

and the fact that norman is still commenting the most recent one being from 1 month ago

[@thedustinmobile1054]

@@Eagledude131 every update for 76 some how makes it more broken

[@YavinPrime]

You know I wasn't there for Fallout 76's launch but I'm enjoying it now. It's not as good as it should be but I'm entertained. I agree though some of the stories about the game are just shocking to say the least.

[@matthewmorrison3745]

Don't defend fallout 76, even if you bought it full price and deny you got cheated.

[@MechMK1]

From a psychological angle, this is fascinating. Most creators identify themselves with their creations to some degree - they see parts of their own (true or imagined) personality traits in some of the characters they write. But in some people, this goes too far. They see their creation as a proxy for themselves, and thus need to see their creation succeed, so that in their mind, they can succeed. This becomes very apparent when he repeats the phrase "Theresa trusts God. She achieves her true self as intended from eternity. She is a winner." This isn't Norman trying to convince you, the reader, that Theresa is a well-written character. This is Norman trying to convince himself that he is a winner. As a devout Catholic, Norman trusts God and believes that he is destined to become successful with his book, that he is a winner. This also explains, why every criticism of the book is met with such vitriol, even well-meaning, constructive criticism. Because according to his ideas, this cricism stands in the way of his success. He convinced himself that it wasn't the sheer awfulness of his book that causes it to fail, but the criticism of others. In other words, Norman is convinced that he *is* Theresa to some degree. He is convinced that Theresa (therefore, he) is flawless, that his book is flawless, and that the only reason it has not been successful and appreciated yet is because the evil critics spread lies about it.

[@Pleasestoptalkingthanks]

Honestly, sounds like some narcissistic disorder of some type.

[@Eric6761]

Even JP character From terrible writing advice isnt that desperate and that's a low ball

[@williamference9221]

It's stranger. To Norman, Theresa's less a proxy for himself and more an idealized (to fetishistic levels) proxy of Jeanne d'Arc. He did a whole essay on Jeanne's death if you wanna see it.

[@TransistorBased]

Random commenter on KZbin is a much better writer than a guy who spent 40 years on a novel

[@royalhydra9790]

@@williamference9221He still projects onto the character a bit. It’s why theresea the sentiment mentioned by OP is repeated. Character traits aren’t similar (I think), but the idea of success is. Theresea is a winner and so is norman (in his rotting mind)

[@1squishh]

i feel so attack(ed). i’m Theresa, grew up catholic in Massachusetts. when i was young i always felt like some creep was watching me. this whole thing is giving me the heebie-jeebies rn

[@MetalFox619]

Do you have powers tho?

[@sp.v.207]

Why did you bought all that soda?

[@youtubeuserdan4017]

Are you happily married?

[@donkface8509]

Did you meet a fox that suddenly spits you some wird glowing orb?

[@ruth078]

Do you Think about your great hair a lot ?

[@simonkawasaki4229]

I'm sure my Team Rocket affiliated Mary Sue biography I wrote when I was 11 can beat this.

[@nxgan1088]

I'd like to read that..

[@studyzen8836]

Release the book!

[@basedokadaizo]

publish it, king!!

[@mannequia8294]

Give me the biography I want some world building in Pokemon I wanna know the business procedures of Team Rocket aside from thievery please give me this info

[@caspian4316]

I mean, at least you had the excuse of being a child.

[@Penoatle]

I bought it, gave it to my wife as a gag gift. She hated it and uses it as a coffee table book/ice breaker.

[@Princess2Warrior]

*So Norman Boutin is the J.K. Rowling of American authors - I don't get why people were giving him grief if Rowling was writing books just as bad? - I guess retards love some books and hate others.*

[@PsiensGate]

@@Princess2Warrior Harry Potter had a good storyline and enough interesting stuff to actually do something with. Empress Theresa is just a generic, boring, narcissistic, horribly written book with no goal and no creativity.

[@johngardner4096]

Don't forget that it's also good for leveling out washing machines...

[@viscountrainbows6452]

@@Princess2Warrior Hi Norm!

[@Princess2Warrior]

@@viscountrainbows6452 *Man, you guys are dumb as fvck, aren't you? No wonder you're essentially making fun of the male version of J.K. Rowling (the male version of a sh|tty author).*

[@diosoth]

Whenever someone says "hard work means you will succeed" point them to this as proof that such a mantra doesn't hold up.

[@tammid8423]

Fuck this is underrated

[@Ramsey276one]

Hard work WHILE DOING IT RIGHT Because apparently everything needs context or explanation in Current Year XD I don’t want to imagine someone burning through their life span doing it wrong and expecting GLORIOUS SUCCESS...

[@Hypergen-]

See, Norman didn’t do “hard work” just by writing a book for 20-40 years. If he truly did hard work, than he would have actively tried to improve his skill. Hard work doesn’t always equal pure work time, actually improving yourself is harder work.

[@skade245]

Hard work != spending a long time on something

[@shelby5809]

@@skade245 life must suck, not knowing what "hard" or "work" means.

[@noamdsi123]

Damn. I was laughing until you mentioned he worked on it for 20 years. That's legitimately sad, I'm not even saying that as a joke. Update: That painting took him three months?? Update: HE WORKED ON IT FOR 4O YEARS???

[@deltaknight2764]

Norman's a real-life anomaly.

[@-perge]

Passion projects gone obsessive... Not only will you have an unhealthy desire for perfection, but it's for an inherently shaky idea. And once you've exhausted yourself in achieving some meretrictious goal, you also have to defend It's quality. Otherwise you accept that some percent of your life has wilted away. Don't suffer the same curse as Norman. Never get trapped in passion projects, end them and start learning. Your brain will thank you.

[@simcard867]

@@-perge that also happens to people who self insert themselves in their stories. They can't take criticism since they see it as an insult to themselves and they make their self insert a Mary Sue. No wonder this guy failed, he created his own waifu or recreated his crush

[@japanesemyth]

@@-perge I don't think there's anything wrong with passion projects, but the obsession with perfection will stop anyone from getting anything done. The author said he rejected a thousand ideas before coming up with this magnum opus. He probably should have just went with any idea he had and kept moving forward, project to project. Then maybe he would have actually learned some things about writing and improved. Edit: whoops. Misread. Sorry about that, you good.

[@calebwheeler8143]

@@japanesemyth I personally think that ideas are overrated. Execution is much more important.

[@Joshyboy225]

Criticism is required for every writer. Yes, sometimes it can suck to see something you put a lot of heart not turn out too well, but that’s part of the process! Constructive criticism can do wonders!

[@xSeBauTx1248]

I'm enough autistic for difference constructive comments to trolling comments.

[@dylantrobaugh4999]

I say this a lot If you can't take criticism you will fail

[@ZrankFappaH]

Dylan Trobaugh Most people don’t give a fuck about being constructive. They want to tell someone they’re a fat useless piece of shit and how much they suck. Chris Chan proved this. People could’ve just not trolled him and blackmailed him to the point of pure mental deterioration. Trolls are fucking scum.

[@JojonathanOliveira]

I totally agree with this, most people just wanna thrash others, take as example the movie The Thing, the critique was so harsh it drove John Carpenter into depression. among the things professional movie critiques said are: 1) "It is too phony to be disgusting. It qualifies only as instant junk." 2) "an exercise in abstract art" 3) "a great barf-bag movie" 4) "It's my contention that John Carpenter was never meant to direct a science-fiction horror movie. Here's some things he'd be better suited to direct: traffic accidents, train wrecks and public flogging." This is anything but constructive, and it came from professionals mind you, now imagine what random trolls on the internet can say.

[@ZrankFappaH]

Jonathan Totally true and sad points! Hollywood is evil. Trolls are evil. Both are free to blackmail, extort, mentally destroy a person; with no repercussions.

[@miaironstone6783]

I want to be empathetic... beyond all the weird stuff, here’s an old man who clearly put time and effort into his book, the cover, and trying to defend it. I can’t shake the image of a grandpa toiling over a canvas. But my empathy only goes so far. And the fact that he won’t even engage with polite and constructive criticism even from people who genuinely want to see him improve and succeed angers me

[@stormisuedonym4599]

Time and 'effort' do not a quality product make.

[@baumi8125]

I could be empathetic if there wasn't the downright pedophilic stuff. The character, theresa, is described as 10 and 14 in book, so is describing a teenage girl as having “perky breasts” and something gross about her rear end filling out nicely in clothes

[@miaironstone6783]

@@baumi8125 I agree, the product is garbage and his unwillingness to even engage with criticism is where my sympathy ends. At some point people have to be taken to task for their behavior

[@thewholekitandkaboodle7569]

Yeah, the empathy ends for me when you’ve gone out of your way to ask for criticism in forums and then get pissed that people on said forums criticize your work. People /have/ been kind in their constructive criticism (some, not all) and he rejected all of that to do what he wanted instead. There was a forum for Jewish people where he asked how they felt about Exodus 2.0, and when they (predictably) responded negatively to the Israeli people abandoning their holy land to move to an island in the shape of a Star of David, he threw a tantrum. One of the people there summed it up best by asking something along the lines of, “You came here to ask for our help. Why bother if you weren’t going to listen?”

[@TheKillerEmcee]

@@stormisuedonym4599 Yes it does 😂

[@cyanmanta]

“Theresa can’t be defeated.” You keep saying this like it’s a good thing, Norm, but it’s actually a massive and fatal flaw. If she’s infallible, there’s no story. Theresa is a Mary Sue. That’s a bad thing, Norm. If the outcome is already decided on page one, then why the hell should I read the rest of the book? You’ve spoiled your own story.

[@bremensims6086]

Not always, watch (or read) One Punch Man. He can't be defeated, but it's still a great story. Not that Empress Theresa is good.

[@calamityechoes3496]

Not always the outcome, but the antiques and shenanigans are interesting. Comical or not, you can write a book of immortal beings living through history and people would be interested in their experiences or their views. The ending doesn’t necessarily the kill the content, but the content can kill all.

[@marcusreading3783]

@Brina Owens Actually, the fact that OPM cant be defeated is the entire point of the story. Its not about an all powerful fighter winning all the time, its about a man with almost unlimited power who is completely and utterly bored. The epic battles are really more set dressing for the actual plot. As for fanfiction, there are actually a large number of genuinely really good fics out there. True, they can be buried under a metric ton of shit and poorly written smut, but the gems really shine.

[@neimad6869]

Romeo and Juliet spoils that they both die on the first page, and it turned out good.

[@calamityechoes3496]

Brina Owens I’m not saying this about the book, the book is just a mess. I’m applying to most books; the ending doesn’t necessarily kill all of the book or the story itself. It’s also not necessarily all about philosophical ideals and such or just ‘slice of life’. There’s many open ended books that has a good plot that leaves the reader to continue the end or just figure it out themselves. There’s also some continuous shenanigans that has varied endings or just isn’t there for continuity, just a closing that doesn’t speak of the end but speaks of the present. Those are mostly what we delicately call “shitposts”. So not necessarily journalism or philosophy or slice of life, there’s also many types of fiction. And yes, I do know about Mary Sues. Tl;dr: Doesn’t only apply to philosophical/life lessons/information but also fiction. Conclusion doesn’t kill all as it’s just a part of the whole content, but the ultimate product itself can.

[@SchlubbyTomHanks]

those covers are hilarious, they actually got worse. it goes from crappy Indie band album cover, to amateur folk art, to uncanny valley.

[@Blindashitmetalasfuck]

Nice user name DEVIN!

[@SonOfMeme]

Yeah, that's literally how the uncanny valley works

[@halykan]

Yeah, for sure - the first cover was a little bland but seemed like an intentional stylistic choice more than monumental incompetence. What follows, though . . .

[@gerbert992]

@@Blindashitmetalasfuck l

[@pinecone9619]

Uncanny valley. You are funny.

[@pgj1997]

There's a very fine line between "not taking criticism" and "be proud of your work". This guy just crossed it. Twice.

[@Ramsey276one]

DAILY

[@glumbortango7182]

That's not how crossing a line works, it just cancels out

[@a-very-uncreative-handle]

@@glumbortango7182 he crossed the line, then went all the way around the world and crossed it again

[@MalfunctionWhocares]

Crossed it twice? He's using the line as a goddamn jump rope at this point, and knowing him he would be completely fucking it up while proclaiming himself to be a pro athlete.

[@pizzafrog.2468]

I once wrote a short story so bad it made me cry. It was that awful and I don't think I had ever seen anything worse at the time. This book make me feel so much better about myself.

[@zodiaczennial3676]

😂😂

[@CollegeDroputPowerpoints]

Im the opposite. Somewhere out there is a good author and this guys showing them up and I want to give that author a hug

[@regmao3143]

When i heard “catholic girl with unlimited powers”, i thought it would be a horror story.

[@maskedgaming2798]

@Bolastwo Heresy*

[@mushroomfae4576]

Bolastwo Didn’t ask 🗿

[@Dafoodmaster]

unlimited guilt power

[@romulusnuma116]

It basically is but without any self awareness

[@peggy2983]

Carrie?

[@marshwalker8322]

What if he was just an old guy who decided to become a God-Tier Troll since he's retired and had nothing else to do?

[@daphnerogers4277]

it's possible. I mean, this is the internet after all.

[@ryan.1990]

Lmao

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

Bradley Dalton he’s actually 72 years old now.

[@camilasuemi6850]

Maybe. Watch the first our If this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3-mhqNoi9B-ntU made by the same KZbinr of this current video. He goes to Norman's website. It's chaotic.

[@absolutelyyousless7605]

The absolute mad lad gave her 420 kids, and 69 cousins... no way he isn’t some 4-D chess playing master manipulator of some kind

[@astoldbyneon43]

The story of a crazy old catholic man vs reasonable Amazon reviewers *Tale as old as time, Song as old as rhyme, Critics and the Beast*

[@thefvguy5648]

*claps*

[@azula8226]

Your profile pic describes your comment perfect *LOUDLY CLAPS*

[@mysteryjuno826]

i want that to go down

[@chrisossu2070]

To be fair, the story's more crazy old Catholic man vs reasonable Amazon reviewers that quickly mutated into crazy old Catholic man vs trolls with way too much time on their hands.

[@BrettonFerguson]

If some 70 year old guy wants to publish crappy books on Kindle, who gives a shit. At least he is staying busy. He probably dreamed about writing this shitty book his entire life. He doesn't need an editor or publisher, WTF for, so they can tell him never to write again?

[@JacF6734]

"Do you just wake up in the morning and think 'Holy shit, I'm going to be a tumor today?’” - Filthy Frank

[@Ramsey276one]

I can only assume the original product is even more entertaining XD

[@Loomismusic]

"Powerful but harmless" - that actually sums up a lot of female characters in popular fiction. Genius. That kind of blew my mind.

[@SovietRipper]

Anime is full of female characters that could destroy the world if they wanted but they can't do shit without the Protag, who for most of the story tend to be weaker than the over powered female co protagonist

[@nxgan1088]

Ok weebs.

[@michal31131]

In the book she's literally Anything but harmless.

[@alphavolta5038]

What does this even mean? How is that genius?

[@dariusallison5333]

I think a character being powerful but harmless would be bad writing because to be harmless you can’t be capable of harm and being powerful inherently means you’re capable of some kind of harm. What would make sense and has been a classic human tale is a character being powerful but peaceful. Being harmless isn’t a choice it’s a condition, to be peaceful is to be someone who could cause harm but is actively deciding not to.

[@SandraThePhox]

I think a story about a seemingly normal young girl getting powers to influence every thing she wishes in reality, and slowly growing abusive and more controlling and narcissistic would have been a much better fit for the author.

[@IsmailofeRegime]

It also would have been better at discussing morality and how Catholics should interact with society, rather than just "good Catholic girl uses powers for good."

[@eriktruchinskas3747]

tecdog15 soooo akira?

[@leongkinwai9709]

It would straight up be a more interesting concept/plotline than what is implied this book actually is.

[@lastswordfighter]

Dude this author can so be trolled by swapping out images of Thersa for when Satan was depicted as a spoiled teenage girl on South Park.

[@deviantartguy0]

I've only seen a similar idea in a Japanese hentai manga I quickly lost interest. NOT EVEN MORE PROPERLY DRAWN BOOBIES MAKES THIS IDEA BEARABLE!

[@Matheus-ki9zo]

_"rejected a hundred ideas over the years, keeping only the very best"_ Which turned out to be the very worst

[@stormisuedonym4599]

Don't say that. We don't know what his other ideas were.

[@Ramsey276one]

@@josefsinlimbo Painfully accurate XD

[@Ramsey276one]

@@stormisuedonym4599 And I NEVER want to know, TYVM XD

[@slevinchannel7589]

Hahaha. This Theresa-Propaganda inside the books is so exorbitant that I'm inclined to think that all this is real and was just wiped from everyones Memory using Alien-Tech! And now someones tries to bring her back and make Propaganda for her!

[@notveryintelligent6239]

This was definitely his first idea 💀

[@Leblenlens]

I'm an artist and i honestly like both of the paintings covers, they aren't anatomically correct, but they got a style? It's just weird, it gives a weird vibe. I have shit taste.

[@penny4urthots125]

I somehow liked them too? Not an artist, but a bookworm, and I would have bought the book just because the cover looked weird.

[@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472]

He should become an artist

[@Grim_Sister]

Trust me, he shouldn’t be. Art is about receiving criticism constantly. You need thick skin to get through that and be open for said criticism if you want to be better. I feel like Norman would argue with his art teacher if they so much as said he needs to improve their anatomy and obsessively follow them around just so he could get them fired

[@slevinchannel7589]

Now we have had much Fun studying something terribly bad (Queen Therista or whatever the name was), lets study something good; especially if you wanna become a Writer yourself! The so-called BEST Magic-System/Power-System in Fiction: 'Nen' from 'HxH'!! OR the so-called BEST 'Dry Humor' from 'Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.

[@geordi5054]

Your profile picture confirms that last statement.

[@Firstbase-kw6rg]

That comment about Norman “not knowing where breasts belong” reminds me of the cover for a history textbook I had, where one woman had her breast hanging out of her right armpit.

[@gabrielleeeSK]

Lmao WHAT

[@mannequia8294]

Pics?

[@airatrev6557]

Links man please that sounds hilarious

[@cksupreme]

Possible deformity?

[@TheSaiyanPrincess89]

I have this pic saved on my phone. The meme associated with it is that men back in the Renaissance didn't know what naked women's bodies looked like so they kind of guessed the anatomy and ended up with that atrocity.

[@roadbreach]

I always say "Just because you're older, doesn't make you smarter", and there's never been a better time to say that than here.

[@graysongdl]

Agreed. Although people with more life experience generally tend to be wiser, this guy wasted 40 years of potential life experience writing a book. If his claim of writing it for 40 years is truer than the other two contradicting time-frames, of course.

[@googiegress]

@@graysongdl No, he spent 40 years failing to complete a book that should have taken a couple months at best. But I doubt he had his nose to the grindstone writing and editing all the time. Instead, he started and stopped, with no perseverance. He lacked skill. And he lacked experience, which is the source of wisdom. He would have been better off working hard in a difficult environment and learning how to write well, and experiencing the world and learning lots of interesting things, and reading a lot of books. The light of the fire is bright only if you stoke it with good wholesome wood. He stoked his fire with slimy leaves and roadkill, so he made nothing but a big stink.

[@addicted2mako]

Yup! Norman is proof that there's a difference between growing old and growing up

[@mikederasmo7621]

and TODAY's Day!

[@therandomnpc1655]

My Sonic oc _"Chicken nugget the porcupine"_ would beat Empress Theresa

[@johncameron1935]

And it wouldn't even be personnel, it's just business.

[@scaparapadoobedoooo3170]

@@johncameron1935 personal?

[@genesiskun02]

@@scaparapadoobedoooo3170 woosh?

[@scaparapadoobedoooo3170]

GENESISKUN02 well shit....

[@johncameron1935]

@@scaparapadoobedoooo3170 Consolation Prize: Your name is awesome.

[@guttsu]

I remember being about 14, having a stupid argument with my 7 year old cousin. Afterwards, my uncle asked why I bothered; I said that he was wrong and had to be corrected. My uncle stated how pointless that was, and just a total waste of energy and anger. I think of that discussion upon seeing insanely trivial, time-consuming internet arguments. But they're much funnier from the outside!

[@Shaun_Jones]

I tend to just make my point once and then go; if they aren’t convinced the first time I say it, they won’t be convinced the twentieth.

[@pandemicphilly60]

​@Shaun Jones Same

[@blurhikari6545]

The way he describes Theresa makes her look like a blatant mary sue.

[@user-ii8od4wu5p]

Wow, are you a genius?

[@blurhikari6545]

Certified Genius from Hasambin University, mind you.

[@gunmunz]

She gives the chick from My Immortal a run for her money

[@Eshray]

Conspiracy Theory: Empress Theresa is actually the spiritual sequel to My Immortal

[@scallysnix.2975]

Blur Hikari Aww, dats a cute picture!

[@CobraCreates]

I decided to add this here since I wasn't sure where else to put this. I'm writing this just after Fredrik read a part of Empress Theresa on stream. If you read it or saw the stream, I couldn't help but notice that Theresa mentions that a family member had schizophrenia in the first chapter. After she mentions this, she goes on about how she knows "they're" watching her, and that "they know" about her. She automatically assumes she's important and she's the reason people are following her. She's suddenly thrown into this story of grandeur where she is the center of all things important. That uh... kinda sounds like schizophrenia (or something similar) to me. Just saying. Since the book is from her point of view, how do we know this isn't all some delusion?

[@Peannlui]

ArrowhoodCobra That would be an excellent example of the 'unreliable narrator' (and I'd DEFINITELY read the book if it turned out to be that way) though I doubt Empress Theresa has that meta level of finesse to pull it off. [gestures to this video]

[@mackerelphones]

This is an example of an accidental goodness. Judging from this video, anything good in this novel would have to be an accident, anyway.

[@Sassy_Witch]

holy shit, this puts it all on a whole new perspective

[@paulwebb2078]

So Norman was trolling us this whole time?

[@squirrelfish8200]

Sean Fronteras too much credit there.

[@FruitNDoggie]

Mother Theresa fan fiction gone wrong.

[@elaovi]

BTIsaac wdym?

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

@@elaovi Mother Theresa would refuse to give proper modern medical care to sick people, believing suffering brought you closer to God. Then when she was sick/dying of course she got the best care

[@addicted2mako]

I think he made the book as a tribute to Joan of Arc if I remember correctly

[@taliajung1553]

When I say that I wheezed--

[@rokukou]

hey, i know you!

[@aboundingvampirekiller2048]

The "My Immortal" of the 2010s.

[@mrluthfians01]

It's not fanfic

[@jahbama6202]

@@mrluthfians01 it’s of the same quality

[@mrluthfians01]

@@jahbama6202 can't argue with that

[@ileanabriannemari]

This was made in a span of _40 Years._ My Immortal is the _Empress Theresa_ of the 2000's. *_*throws printed copies in the sky*_*

[@aboundingvampirekiller2048]

@@ileanabriannemari can't argue with that

[@psionicsknight6651]

Is it okay for me to say that honestly, Norman Boutin kind of hits me in a personal way? I'm an aspiring writer myself (good or bad will be up to all of you), but honestly... a part of me has always worried I'll become like Norman; oversensitive to criticism and condescending to anyone who disagrees with me. I understand if this sounds silly, but honestly Norman does make me worried that I could end up like him, or at the very least I won't be able to learn from what he did...

[@richardroberson2564]

If you make a effort, you won't

[@keb9522]

@@richardroberson2564 yeah i admittedly hate criticism but i try not to show it and still take it to heart for later

[@psionicsknight6651]

@@richardroberson2564 Well, I know that. :) The fear is more about overestimating my own skill and, more importantly, treat all criticisms, even constructive ones, as either just stupid or personal attacks.

[@elle3562]

The fact that you're even considering the possibility that you might not be perfect already sets you a world apart from Norman. If you're not careful you might end up ignoring some good but harsh advice, but to be at Norman's level would require some serious mental illness

[@WoobooRidesAgain]

It takes a special kind of egocentric, delusional thinking to actually make a work this obliviously terrible and believe that it--and by extension yourself--is so above criticism that anyone who disagrees with you is a "hater" in the face of every scrap of logic and evidence proving you otherwise. We're talking at the point where someone becomes a walking, talking, trashy commenting example of the Dunning-Kruger effect (which incidentally I'm not 100% on board with but hey, I feel like picking the low-hanging fruit tonight). By merely questioning yourself, you're showing you have the means to at least heed criticism, because at the moment your harshest critic is the one you're listening the most to. Yourself. Corny line, I know, but it's true, believe me. I know firsthand.

[@Azraile]

Sounds like this guy really really really wished he WAS Theresa.

[@suezuccati304]

That's why she is such a Mary Sue, it's just a power fantasy fulfillment.

[@justas423]

@Rachel J it's like R rated freaky Friday.

[@timmaximilian9286]

Azraile Kiras i think its more that he wrote about his dream waifu

[@bachpham6862]

@@timmaximilian9286 So basically the Ice King in Adventure Time?

[@sweetpotatofries99]

*heavy breathing* Theresa is a good girl... Such a veerry goooood giiiiiiiirrrrlllll...

[@justas423]

Norman's ego makes Gilgamesh look like a humble saint.

[@Thedodogos]

And Gilgamesh had the skills to back up his ego.

[@TheBonkleFox]

hey don't insult Greg like that!

[@markus-a-railius]

Your voice is soothing so I was listening to this while trying to sleep. The utterance of 'Christian Weston Chandler' shocked me awake like I was having a nightmare.

[@hdofu]

"Worked on the novel for 20 years, rejected a 100 ideas... keeping only the very best" Wow that trash can must have been something for the nose.

[@arandompasserby7940]

I'd love to read what some of those ideas were.

[@Janx14]

@@arandompasserby7940 Seriously, it'd probably sell better than the actual book.

[@kritische3959]

Hdofu Fox He had, indeed, wrote from the heart and not from the brain.

[@javiinkling695]

Theresa makes Ebony look like a clever and complex character

[@nicholaslienandjaja1815]

And she makes Sonichu look more like Arceus in comparison.

[@DarylStreete]

I have watched seven and a half hours of krimsonrogue trying to struggle through this book and I can confirm that Theresa is far worse than Ebony. She's the worst character to ever dribble out of the brain of a human being.

[@illulamati4651]

@ shes a character in my immortal, which is largely considered the worst fanfiction ever written. it's horrendous. i absolutely recommend it.

[@laurarumpe6186]

Oh my goodness. Not Enoby

[@ineedabetterpfp2485]

cherry gems “it’s horrendous. i absolutely recommend it.” What a powerful line.

[@charlesballiet7074]

how one man faced off an entire internet army truly quite a battle

[@clunkwestweed4541]

@Nob the Knave It really doesn't. Frustration with someone being ignorant has nothing to do with ego.

[@Bootystank99659]

REJECTOR1 I keep seeing giorno giovanas everywhere The jojos like down the rabbit hole?

[@mrniceguystylehigh]

@Nob the Knave lmao this. all those hours spent arguing with a bad author whose book would have been buried so far down the deep pit of amazon books that no one could find it unless they'd heard of it by word of mouth, but here we are with a KZbin vid cuz all the 'tisms kiddos had to be "right" and "btfo" of some random tard with a book to sell

[@spookyaccounttowatchnexpoo6581]

kirk hammetts left pinkie finger kono giorno giovanna

[@yellowblanka6058]

He had god and the paper-thin characters from his book fighting by his side.....victory was assured.

[@inferior3199]

This book is like If I wrote down every random imagined situation inside my head and then tried to make them into a coherent story

[@lazydelibird]

Dude, I did this and it really is more coherent than this hot mess.

[@REDARROW_A_Personal]

Empress Theresa sounds like the next Dictator for Rico Rodriguez to fight in Just Cause 5.

[@elijahwatson3474]

Next gen Just Cause is going to be fun.

[@arandompasserby7940]

But she can't be defeated because she has the power of God at her side lel

[@FelipePalha66]

@@arandompasserby7940 a fanatic Catholic dictator that believes to be a 10 years old girl that is totally oblivious of her behavior, now this would be interesting.

[@mobiusraptor7]

10/10 would play

[@BringYerOwnBomb]

"This new cover took him three months to paint." Oof

[@corganfaller5579]

I want to assume it's from when it was started to finish. Not the time he worked on it. It "takes me a week" for a painting, even if there's a 5 day gap where I do nothing to it.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

My sister paints better in a handful of hours then this guy does in months.

[@blackishpariah]

My dog paints in a handful of hours many more moose than select northern states.

[@greatpower6063]

lol Three months he never got back. I'd be angry too.

[@PastelRay]

I could do this paint better in an hour with my left hand

[@reborno-o4498]

Reminds me of Tara's ''My Immortal'' Harry Potter Fanfic, although that came first. ''Stop flemming you prepz!''

[@tmtmtlsml]

Why did you do such a thing, you mediocre dunces?

[@caiosoares2834]

"Her name is not Mary Sue, its Enoby."

[@sonaphine]

my immortal remains superior

[@narev6569]

Oh my god I forgot about that! If it wasn't some manner of bizarre performance art, I weep for humanity

[@jennytheexperimentalist]

It's also available for sale on amazon. I was just there!

[@daylightbright7675]

I absolutely love reading bad books and fanfiction. I pick it all apart in my head and fix everything I find to be lacking. I can then find inconsistencies in my own writing and it's improved my own abilities a lot. So many times there's amazing ideas and compelling adventure patiently waiting to be told. The author just lacked the skill to build what they saw in their mind. Like with Theresa, you can tell he wanted a humble hero who doesn't see why she's so special. He wanted her to feel fear she has no reason to, struggle when she could have whatever she wants so easily, never take anything foregranted even when she could take EVERYTHING foregranted. It shows a grounded person who's still learned the intense pain of being human, because in the end that's all that can create *real* empathy and real kindness. If you never suffer and never know pain, you'll never really be able to connect with those who are suffering. Theresa is only supposed to be a Mary Sue from a narrative perspective, to herself and in her mind she's meant to be generally plain and uninteresting. But the execution was absolutely horrible. You still need some genuine conflict to make a good story, but he didn't want to add that in case it takes away from how badass she's supposed to be. That's stupid because no matter how untouchable your character is, you can always find weaknesses and flaws to explore. There can always be struggles to overcome. In the book Origin for example the main character Pia was made in a research facility to be completely immortal. She's immune to every disease, toxin and poison ever known, will never age, hell nothing can even scratch her skin. This makes her incredibly aloof and cold towards everyone around her because she sees herself as superior. After all, they're all just weak mortals who's time is quickly running out. Compared to that, why she's basically a goddess right? But as she grew up she realized that this thing called death actually *connects* all other human beings to eachother and by extension to life itself. She's the one on the outside. She's the one sitting in a very, very unnatural position suspended away from nature. It's why she desperately wants others like her to be born so she won't be totally alone anymore in this bizzare state. But that then begs the question of what they'll all *do* with their endless time anyway. Knit? Play the harmonica? Listen to Skrillex? See, she also eventually realizes that limitless time and an endless life has no real worth compared to a life that will naturally end someday. The finality is what makes it valuable in the first place. What's even left to live for when you'll never have to fight or work for anything ever again? It's made even worse when she falls in love with a nice, normal boy who is definitely not immortal. She has to face the fact that he'll grow old and die while she stays young and beautiful forever. In this case her immortality actually becomes her demon to slay and a bitterly harsh reality she's forced to face. She may not be able to die, but that doesn't mean she doesn't endure hardship and develop as a character. Even Pia, a stunningly beautiful, genius, beloved, immortal woman who *CAN'T DIE* still has her flaws. I'm sorry but there's just no excuse, only poor writing.

[@lazydelibird]

True immortality is a subject that's very hard to write because its hard to comprehend. Noke if us will live forever, and we can never truly be able to write about an immortal's life (If you can even call their existence life) because none of us are. But from the somewhat brief description of pia's story, it sounds like it works very well.

[@KopperNeoman]

Pia would benefit immensely from the Gospel. That those mortal beings are simply moving to another eternal Kingdom. That some day this world will end and she too will ascend there and see them again, provided she doesn't fall to evil.

[@JoelRiter]

So this is what Digital Homicide would look like if the guy wrote books instead, interesting

[@kevincass9917]

And had an obsession with Christianity.

[@kevincass9917]

*facepalm* Catholicism is Christian... It's a sub-section of Christianity, like Lutheranism and Protestantism.

[@kevincass9917]

No trouble! Though, it is pretty crazy that he wrote this story and so vehemently defends it.

[@Secundussy]

JoelRiter I don't know. Digital homicide merely desired money, whereas Norman invested so much time and effort into the book that he couldn't accept failure.

[@TheImpossiBelle]

I'm not quire sure either, but in the opposite direction. It's not like Norman sued (unsuccessfully) his biggest critic, or subpoena Amazon for information on anyone that left a bad review to take THEM to court as well. Norman may have made a shitty book that he defends vehemently, but at least it was original-shittyness and not just an asset flip that had less cutting and pasting than the original Empress Theresa cover...

[@DoctorSpacebar]

Oh. Oh wow. Oh, WOW. I don't just call anyone a Mary Sue, but this, this is a textbook Mary Sue. Always considered to be in the right, no matter what she does that's wrong. ...I've got it. Theresa and Enoby. CAGE MATCH.

[@ladyarmourlapras]

wrong she was eboby

[@Sgt_Glory]

No Theresa.... _you are the demons_

[@GOFFBITZH666]

Akually my nam iz tata U POZER!11 Also, teresa is a stoopid preppy _you-know-what_ so ill do it.

[@ladyarmourlapras]

@@GOFFBITZH666 combining your username with your comment makes it seems like you're actually her

[@GOFFBITZH666]

FANGZ 4 NOICINF @Lady Armour Lapras !1!1!1!1

[@zephyfoxy]

Born 1948? This dude is almost 70 years old and acting like a CHILD??

[@teddyfartypants]

He is Chris Chan 40 years from now.

[@WHOARETHEPATRIOTS475]

typical for elders, after all their brain is slowly deteriorating along with their body

[@731freeman]

The elderly throw temper tantrums all the time, they think they are superior for having lived longer then those younger then them. That and you know, people of all ages are idiots.

[@WHOARETHEPATRIOTS475]

actually, thats not true, I have elders who still work as computer engineers and gain a shit ton of money at if I'm correct at the age of 70 +, it's how they take care of themselves if you ask me, although I won't lie that we all have those idiotic moments

[@toast8851]

Zepher Tensho How? My grandpa is 83! He doesn’t act like a child.

[@UnknownSoldier412]

The most amazing part of this video for me is that, apparently, blog sites still exist. I was convinced that subreddits, youtube, and twitch had gobbled up the World Wide Web.

[@slevinchannel7589]

To your info: Krimson Rogue, Cynical Reviews, and Both of them Together, have made each multiple Videos about Empress Theresa and they are very enjoyable.

[@Vitorruy1]

I follow a blog :/

[@heinoustentacles5719]

That just means you're a lazy web user. You can find all sorts of stuff browsing around.

[@prisco67-o7v]

​@@heinoustentacles5719 bruh

[@CollegeDroputPowerpoints]

Goodreads might be here forever

[@ProbablyYesOrNot]

i bet he created all those forum accounts and was arguing with himself for attention to sell his book, 136 iq confirmed!

[@lqu]

9999 accounts?! THE FUCK?!?!

[@firstnamelastname5230]

LEGOMAN 2 he’s dedicated to his craft

[@bobkebob9980]

I have a 136 IQ and I'm pretty retarded.

[@human_bing]

@Nathan unknown sem ahahahajajaehebbehw w wuwjmwm me no sbahsnsuebegehehehrjjrejdjdjdbxdb

[@acheron16]

It's honestly sad how deluded some people can be. I legit feel bad about the author, I can't help but imagine some poor guy living in a hole writing this escape from reality and then trying to defend t from other's criticism because he has nothing left.

[@colbaltmind5696]

Well, he shouldn’t act like his book is high literature if it’s just a book he wrote for fun. There’s nothing wrong with making a book for your own selfish purposes(hell, Twilight was written by a sexually repressed Mormon who just wanted to have fun), but when you act like your book is good and try to shove it down other people’s throats, and then get mad when people want nothing to do with your fantasies, then it shows how much of a fragile ego you have and how weak you are to the Dunning-Kreuger Effect. E.L. James is another excellent example of this. She basically copy pasted Twilight with a dash of creepy, abusive sexual relationships and called it BDSM, and got mad when people called out her shitty writing and behavior.

[@hermescarraro3393]

@@colbaltmind5696 WHAT??? ARE YOU SERIOUS ABOUT TWYLIGHT??? that... Explains... Soo much... 😶

[@andrewparsons2391]

@@hermescarraro3393 Serious about what about Twilight? That it was written by a sexually repressed mormon housewife, or that EL James originally wrote '50 Shades of Grey' as a Twilight fanfiction with the names changed? Those are both true.

[@hermescarraro3393]

@@andrewparsons2391 Bolph of them. Mostly the sexualy repressed woman stuff. I feel kinda bad for laughing soo much to the story now. 😐 Kinda... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

@@colbaltmind5696 Shit like this is why I am terrified to publish my own 'work' if you can call idle passing of time that. I'm not confident that anything I write is good, no matter how compelling the theme might otherwise be. Like, the idea I have-mixing today's modern world with high fantasy elements as well as travelling between worlds, religious themes and other nonesense- sounds good on paper, but if I execute it bad the book will be bad, like with any piece of literature or media. But I am also depely afraid that I have an unseen ego that could become toxic if I were to recieve negative-if also constructive- criticism. Also, I read about that Twilight shit. I couldn't believe it but that shit was real. What in the everloving fuck?

[@JoseMunoz-vf8om]

The author of this book sounds like a costumer i had a few years ago. I just can't remember his name, hell probably the same guy. I was at his house installing solar panels. He kept right over my shoulder the whole time. Telling me about all his accomplishments the latest being a book he wrote and kept pushing it on me. When he could not be right in my personal bubble because i'd go on the roof of his house to help my co workers install the solar panels and really to get away from him. He would sit in his back yard and watch us with binoculars.

[@AleTitan]

jose Munoz Damn

[@HimHawJimJam]

That is super creepy, I would have lost concentration and fell off honestly. I hate being observed at work.

[@martiqueheisler5959]

Yeesh, clearly this guy was never taught about personal space.

[@wub9044]

"The difference between Harper Lee and you, is that you aren't Harper Lee." Shots fired.

[@slevinchannel7589]

Now we have had much Fun studying something terribly bad (Queen Therista or whatever the name was), lets study something good; especially if you wanna become a Writer yourself! The so-called BEST Magic-System/Power-System in Fiction: 'Nen' from 'HxH'!! OR the so-called BEST 'Dry Humor' from 'Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.

[@SleightCreative]

As an aspiring author writing my very own book at this very moment, this is very educational as to what not to do ever

[@somesadnormie5881]

SleightCreative What book are you making?

[@the-unknown6657]

Ive written an indie book myself called new order of alexandria, I was 19 when I first wrote it and I know its not perfect, I got a 2 star review with a lot of criticisms, but im taking note and writing another in the hopes its better. being a writer means dealing with critics, but dont feel bad about them, acknowledge them and either write another or improve the original, criticism will help u become better. I can understand norman to an extent because ive felt the same way but I have rewritten it multiple times because its very hard not to write plot holes or mis use words stuff like that. writing is like painting, it takes time and dedication to get it right. (i know this comment has a lot of errors but am just texting lol)

[@deviantartguy0]

I would hope this is common sense!

[@connor8359]

i would bet my life that your book isnt much better

[@daiyanhossainchowdhury5867]

Good luck with book bruh.

[@fluidwolf]

So a narcissist makes a book about a mary sue and is surprised and angry when it isnt hailed as god's gift to books because he says it is. Great

[@sebakisniesebakisnie6109]

UnbreakableJames more than that, other people seeing how bad the book is still have suh egos that they woild not just drop the futile 'discussion' with the author. It is an amazing example of feeling superior from both sides.

[@hagrid1123]

Br0ny

[@jasonph2522]

UnbreakableJames- similar to how a narcissist made a Star Wars movie about a Mary Sue and still Twitter attacks anyone who doesn't hail it as god's gift to movies.

[@nova8747]

1:54 That's not a happily married teenage girl. That's Michael Jackson.

[@literallygaston2489]

Hee hee!

[@bambisodomita]

more like.. Janet

[@wolfpax22]

Its funny how Empress Theresa looks like she's dressed like an airline pilot.

[@richardgadberry8398]

So, this guy wrote a Kim Yo-Jong fanfic before the world even knew who in the blue hell she was.

[@Ramsey276one]

The English dib of Dictator-chan! XD

[@slevinchannel7589]

Theresa really made herself, with her 18 Years old and Catholic Background, the Center of S-Jokes? While on Camera? With the biggest Audience ever? Wow. This Author is a Shame. A Shame just for tha alone.

[@Penguinmanereikel]

Actually, apparently, it’s supposed to be a fanfic of Joan of Arc

[@user-saraswatidevi]

LMAOOOOOOO

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@user-saraswatidevi To your info: Krimson Rogue, Cynical Reviews, and Both of them Together, have made each multiple Videos about Empress Theresa and they are very enjoyable.

[@fishbonesinc]

This was fascinating, thanks for digging up this unknown tale. You're quickly becoming a favorite content creator of mine.

[@dumpsterjuice5696]

Top 10 Overpowered anime characters

[@firstnamelastname5230]

dumpster juice lacks the power of friendship Only number 4

[@metademetra]

I listened to KrimsonRogue's review of the book. The entire time, I kept mentally comparing Theresa to the Emperor of Mankind from Warhammer. (Krimson did once in his review too, just to highlight how truly intimidating someone like Theresa would be to the average person.) Upon doing so, I realized that this book could have been so much better if Norman leaned in to her being an all-powerful dictator. Make her do really evil things that unfortunately have a net gain for the human race. Make the people miserable, but still reverent of Theresa. ...Or just read the first three Horus Heresy books. If the goal is something low on sex and violence, it absolutely fails in that category, but maybe trying to make a wholesome story about an all-powerful dictator just isn't possible.

[@ganii1804]

Theresa Protects

[@williek08472]

It's funny because I write short stories as a hobby and an idea I had for one of them was where a bullied girl named Teresa somehow becomes an immortal, powerful psychic who goes on to rule the world and eventually creates an interstellar theocratic empire with herself as a god-empress. The main story actually takes place millennia in the future and follows a wannabe journalist who tries to learn about Teresa and how she came to be. And this was a year or two ago, long before I heard about this mess of a book. In retrospect, I'm glad I didn't take it any further.

[@nejdalej]

When I was 16, one of my school friends wrote a whole novel from the perspective of a dictator of a dystopian universe. And what was even better was that despite all odds, the book was actually pretty good. Safe to say, he was a very strange person but good conversation.

[@nejdalej]

@@williek08472 That actually sounds kinda cool, though it would probably be more interesting to see it from Theresa's perspective. You see her gradual mental decline and her discovery of her powers until she finally ascends, taking over the universe. You'll need to add some conflict here, especially if she becomes so OP by the end x

[@mackar5705]

​@@nejdalej what was the novel called? Author too?

[@leileyaravencroft]

There is apparently a new cover now! Krimson Rogue's book looks different than the "last" art on Empress Theresa. Don't worry, it's still as bad as ever and I really wish someone would tell Norman where women's breasts are supposed to be and NOT to put buttons where nipples are.

[@stevenschnepp576]

I'm pretty sure he's doing the nipple buttons on purpose, because this is his waifu.

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@RandomNameLastName811 To your info: Krimson Rogue, Cynical Reviews, and Both of them Together, have made each multiple Videos about Empress Theresa and they are just nice.

[@Ampharosite]

"there are some five-star reviews although their legitimacy is questionable" me: Why do you say that? [example given is about the book solving acne problems] me: ...oh

[@highadmiraljt5853]

Ampharosite Read the rest of it, it’s even better

[@Ramsey276one]

And house freshener! XD

[@libraeevee9467]

Plotwist: the guy burned the book and the pine scent was from the book *was*

[@The_All-Seer]

Norman: "This cover is so good, you won't put in on your website!" Nathan: *puts it on website* Norman: *surprised pikachu face*

[@imppro]

@Sakthi's Channel no

[@mattomanx77]

Norman: *suprised sonichu face* Fixed that for you

[@BHofNL]

@SlymeJyme it was definetly the best one. And he covered her chest with the title so he wouldn't have to retry her breasts haha

[@slightlyistorical1776]

Can we all just give kudos to Lousy Book Covers for their motto: “Just because you CAN design your own cover doesn’t mean you SHOULD.”

[@Ailobyte]

Dude, where are all your subscribers? Your content is very professionally made

[@adakenna]

ive thought he same

[@JimTheCurator]

Ailobyte reading this made me realized I wasn't subscribed - I am now though!

[@Aster_Risk]

Your comment made me subscribe. I'm watching his stuff, and really liking it, and for some reason didn't think to click the bright red button. :D

[@orateusdijin6557]

same.

[@sweettooth9057]

He can convert to commentary if he wants to. He seems to know his sources. Just as long as he doesn't become Keemstar 2.0

[@NeiasaurusCreations]

I kinda feel bad for this guy, he seems to have poured his heart and soul into it, and then people reacted so badly. Don't get me wrong, the book is awful, how he reacts is awful, but I just feel kinda bad.

[@danlorett2184]

imagine how much better of an author he would be if he put the time and effort he wasted arguing with commentors into actually working on his writing and also worked on that "stop being such an obvious pedo" thing

[@rickc2102]

Some people's heart and soul either suck or need professional assistance.

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

if this is his heart and soul then he should have just kept it to him self and maybe not talk to anyone ever again.

[@ScubaSteveM45]

Just because someone pours their heart and soul into something doesn't guarantee the results will be good. I hope this guy had some stable career all this time while he thought his novel was going to take off. His lack of self awareness reminds me of when Napoleon Dynamite drew that pic of the girl he wanted to ask to the school prom but it looked godawful and worse than a composite drawing the cops draw.

[@mrgeebaby86]

Great display of empathy and self reflection. Good person is good

[@R0230R]

So basically, Empress Theresa is a what if: the Ultimate Mary-Sue existed.

[@Maksie0]

You might even say she's the Virgin Mary Sue

[@HeroAndReporter]

Maksie0 Take this... *Gives a like* And get out!

[@chrisprescott2273]

Something tells me that Empress Theresa was based on the neighbors girl that he has "admired" from a far...for her whole life. Sick

[@triggeredcat120]

An English Chris Chan

[@CollegeDroputPowerpoints]

And then you add 4 teaspoons of religion and you got yourself an enygma.

[@givemysundaeback]

I can't tell which of them is more homophobic. Sure, Chris started to pretend to be trans so he could fuck lesbians, but Norman is an English catholic...