EMT Conduit Bending: Four Point Saddle Bend with Multipliers, Shrink + No Charts or Apps

[@SparkyChannel]

Klein Tools 86225 Double Hook Magnetic Tape Measure with conduit bending tables, 25-Foot: Amazon: amzn.to/35VZEjP Also, see my 38 video series: "EMT Bending by Sparky Channel" here: kzbin.info/aero/PLSD43kAzjUIT9C0yzPTkqULBCmJXX_goh

[@yournotawesomebutiam]

Dude this is the Scotty Kilmer for electricians

[@SparkyChannel]

LOL! Good one, thanks! 2 more EMT bending videos coming this weekend. :) Check them out if you get a chance.

[@travisburt1317]

I was thinking the same thing lol. Sounds just like him

[@christopherbrewer222]

That is spot on..😆

[@RANDOMPEPSIBOTTLES]

Thought that the other day from one of his videos

[@SWMP1523]

But the difference is this guy is cool. Scotty kilmer just preaches Toyota and says everything else is junk

[@bradleykneece7516]

I just started my 1st year apprenticeship and I have to say that I'm learning alot from your videos. Thank you so much.

[@SparkyChannel]

Best wishes for your apprenticeship!

[@MikeG-si6nx]

Thanks, Sparky. I'm in my second month of electrician training at UEI and these videos are GOLD. I'm trying to get through the entire series because they get to the point and come from field experience, not sterile lab environments. I Appreciate your efforts Sir.

[@SparkyChannel]

Glad to help! Yes, I like to have the conduits start at a box or fitting and end at a box or fitting, similar to a job environment. Good luck Mike!

[@Sodapoppinit]

Hello, sir. I've been working as an electrician for 7 years now and wanted a quick brush up on bending. This was the best explanation I've seen for bending (also enjoyed your 3 point saddle video). I'll be forwarding these videos to my apprentices! Thanks for taking the time to make these videos!

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks Lucas!

[@tombrown3072]

Hey Bill, glad to have you back! Just wanted to say your old videos of pipe runs helped me figure out the math involved back when I was non-union. Now I'm in the union (IBEW local 58 Detroit), and getting a great education, but I still love the way you do your walk-through demonstrations!

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks Tom! Cheers from San Diego!

[@jhosk]

Great video! How things have changed over the years! Remember learning to bend conduit, was told to write this down, then told get to work. Years ago it was a complete sink or swim attitude in the industry, even the apprenticeship was designed around weeding out the weak, started off with 140 student and ended up with less than 20.

[@Bapuji42]

This dude is legit. Should be required watching for electricians.

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks so much!

[@GerstBladeworks]

Man I have been a sparky for 11years and I still find very valuable knowledge on your channel ,even if In this case it's about a new tool!!! Lol 🤙 god bless you sir!

[@SparkyChannel]

God Bless you as well!

[@efra.arana.]

This is the best EMT conduit bending video, thank you so much Sr.

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks Efrain!

[@tazmc2353]

Love this Chanel perfect bends and explanations

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks so much!

[@GuruthaCaveman]

Yup, Just took the glasses off .

[@PrisonMike-_-]

Sounds the exact same too!

[@williamcruz7976]

Lmfao no way. That's the same thing I thought about. Both are OGs in their profession.

[@truthbetold9092]

I've struggled with 3 and 4 points, but I attempt them when I get the chance. Your videos have been very helpful. Thank you for your tips

[@SparkyChannel]

My pleasure, thanks!

[@rclark641]

I love the finished work of well bent EMT. Very professional results!

[@ItsBetrix]

Was always a fan of Ron kipper from ideal but I think sparky channel has helped me so much more!

[@SparkyChannel]

I have watched all of Ron's videos. I love watching them!

[@ItsBetrix]

@@SparkyChannel glad to hear I think everyone has their own tips and tricks just like my journeymen tell me, I’m a second year apprentice in trade school in the IBEW, I appreciate your response sir!

[@SparkyChannel]

@@ItsBetrix Best wishes!

[@andrewalter3291]

Finally someone made me understand shrinkage

[@SparkyChannel]

Excellent!

[@AngelRomero955]

Haha my wife did that for me 😢

[@edgargonzalez6922]

This is golden! Very easily explained I understood 100% and learned something new about the Klein tape measure

[@SparkyChannel]

Excellent!

[@davidlujan8088]

Hey Sparky, love the vids.. I'm starting school next week.👍.. yesterday I did a 4 point saddle bend came out great.. my journeyman just gave it a little tweak.🤙. Gonna go back through your vids and try to get ahead of the guys in class. Thanks for your wisdom.

[@teebamos7350]

I found your video by accident, but I have subscribed and found your explanations very easy to understand. I used your 3 point technique today and it was perfect !!

[@SparkyChannel]

Excellent!

[@capt.chloroform2679]

Very informative! I like to use center of bend for everything. Especially for saddles, that way I can just use the push through method.

[@JoseMendoza-mv1ig]

Thanks for dropping some knowledge... Really helps me prep for lab days 👌🏽

[@SparkyChannel]

Excellent!

[@richfriend4418]

You’re the man Sparky 👍🏼

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks so much Rich!

[@JCCharts]

Just a phenomenal channel!! Thank you for everything Sparky Channel!! You make me realize that everything is pretty simple and that I just need to quit overthinking it. 👍 Edit: four bend saddles used to give me headaches when I was an apprentice

[@SparkyChannel]

Way to go!

[@michaelhinchey]

4 bend saddle ... All bends on arrow and hook towards the middle. ✅

[@lanceleavitt7472]

Boring for the pros, fascinating for us amateurs. --- Thanks for the great upload. ---

[@SparkyChannel]

Glad it was helpful!

[@tdtech5500]

I don't like bending on ground but I like your idea as water level degree Marks are more accurate. Hard to get right degree when bending in air. I know few electricians who use rim notch as their marking on conduit which is easy and less complicated. Thanks for all the videos

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks, have a great day!

[@jasonscollection6357]

Thanks for helping me understand 3 and 4 point saddles Sparky!

[@SparkyChannel]

Happy to help! Thanks!

[@ricardoaguirre7694]

Thank you so much for the lesson!!...I bought the Klein tape measure and the digital level, and I must say they are great tools!!...Thanks again

[@SparkyChannel]

Glad it was helpful!

[@tylersargent2183]

Question, for the 3rd mark added on the conduit being 7 1/4” away from the first mark made; is that measurement the actual width of the obstruction? And if it is, is the 3/4” shrinkage factor applied to the width of the obstruction as well? Or is it not added? The first mark is distance to obstruction plus 3/4” so it’d make sense to add 3/4” to the width of the obstruction right or no?

[@evrlastngcherry7727]

The other half comes off the other side of the pipe so you only add it to your overall length, but you don't need a mark on the pipe for it

[@G-Ovalle]

Thank you so much Mr. Sparky. Best explanations on KZbin. 🙏🏻

[@SparkyChannel]

You're very welcome!

[@xelaju8]

I like Sparky. He is a good instructor. Thank you.

[@germanarellano5119]

Best video ever. He is a master at his craft thanks

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks so much!

[@tactica4s]

Thank you friend, this video ended with my doubts about why my folds did not come out identical, greetings from Costa Rica.

[@SparkyChannel]

Glad I could help!

[@chrisfyfe9212]

Bill , you are a Witch , when comes to bending . I dig the new Tape measure !

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks Chris!

[@johnmaina5809]

Very aspiring... ."Hakuna Matata" all of your episodes are educative Thanks for sharing.

[@SparkyChannel]

Yes, Hakuna Matata!

[@benjaminescalante4274]

I like the way how you explain things up. But the question is ? Do you just add the shrink once or you add it on to both side ?

[@BigmoRivera]

Great Job Sparky... The Digital Angle Gauge It Would Be Better If They Make It With The Sound Once You Get Your Angle

[@SparkyChannel]

Great idea!

[@focused0002]

At 1st i wasnt going to finish because of the much speaking but i really like his style!

[@banjothehammer6708]

I wish Bill was my journeyman. He could answer any dumb question I have even if it didn’t make any sense. 😂

[@SparkyChannel]

LOL! Good one! If it wasn't for dumb questions, no one would learn anything.

[@georgioe8553]

Thank you sensei. I’ve been learning a lot from your videos.

[@SparkyChannel]

My pleasure, thanks Georgio!

[@robotzombie3546]

Klein should make tape measures with the back side having essential conduit info, concentric bend formula, ohms law etc but skip the inch measurements on the back. Also tape measures need to be slightly compact not a big block. They need magnets on the ends that won't break off.

[@FaithwWorks]

great demonstration. thank you for the lesson

[@SparkyChannel]

You are welcome!

[@alecthenice8115]

this is getting me through my exam, thank you

[@SparkyChannel]

Excellent! Where are you going to school?

[@alecthenice8115]

@@SparkyChannel I am a first year apprentice at IBEW local 80, Norfolk VA

[@SparkyChannel]

@@alecthenice8115 Fantastic! Please say Hi to everyone for me!

[@omarhu]

Anybody else get Scotty vibes from Bill?!?! Warm up you engines!!!!! Are they related?

[@nicknack4319]

Sparky We need u to keep making more of these Great videos.

[@SparkyChannel]

That's the plan! Thanks!

[@trooper11c]

Somebody is getting a little love from Klein;)

[@alejandrocaceres7361]

Hi Mr Bill, thanks for your lessons

[@SparkyChannel]

No problem, thanks!

[@paulherlichka6862]

For the 3rd mark, it’s the distance across the obstruction minus shrinkage?

[@That90sShow]

Why would you MINUS for shrinkage? Use your head

[@Sorbe1]

@Sparky Channel: Could you do a show on how properly air bend 3/4" conduit. It's pretty difficult and FAILED HARD on 3/4". I tried doing this several times with 3/4" conduit, and messed up each time. The last time, the conduit and bender slipped in the air and I got injured badly. Both my left little finger and my left big toe got seriously SMASHED when it cut loose. Enough so they both turned black and I'm losing my fingernail and my toenail now..

[@arrakis8320]

Muchas gracias Sparky

[@sergiomansilla]

Excelente explicacion !!! Grafica !!!! Saludos desde argentina

[@SparkyChannel]

Cheers from San Diego!

[@TheJugster1]

Very detailed educational videos , love it , God Bless Sir .

[@SparkyChannel]

God Bless you as well!

[@tombrown3072]

Another great video! Question for you: the other day (not the first time this has happened) I had to bend a saddle close to the end of a stick of pipe. What is the proper way to measure and mark for the "push through" method? I made it work somehow, but wondering what I should do next time...thank you!

[@ourleopardtortoises6543]

Great video I need a tape measure like that

[@Patrick-kickass]

I have a question. You have your first marked 33’7/8” because of there is a 3/4” shrinking this one I understand. However why don’t we add another 3/4” on the other side? So that should make 1’1/2” shrinkage in total.

[@zacuhdelic]

The other 3/4 of shrinkage wouldnt appear until after the second set of bends. If he only did the first offset there would only be a 3/4 difference from the original length of the pipe. The distance you have to cross over your obstruction won’t grow or shrink so the center point of the bends should be a constant. I’m not sure if that made complete sense. I’ll think about it and try to figure out a better way to word it

[@shanegreen268]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge Sir

[@SparkyChannel]

My pleasure, thanks Shane!

[@shanegreen268]

@@SparkyChannel you bet. You're Videos are Awesome

[@sickassvids92]

Inside mark bend, outside mark bend *flip conduit around* inside mark bend, outside mark bend. Finished. And all from the ground (for better results) Try bending 45+degree offsets this way and you’ll find the plain of the pipe is directly in contact with the handle.

[@davidpalermo6011]

Yea especially if the conduit is going to be in an area that's super visible and always seen, 45 degrees are sharper and look nicer

[@georgie_the_cockatiel4232]

Awesome video!! Can you do a video on parallel offsets

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks! Yes, I do have a video on parallel offsets. Also see Sparky vs the Pros... It's fun and educational too. Thanks!

[@michaelhinchey]

I watch all of your videos. You have so many ways for 4 bends and 3 bends. Some push through and some traditional. What is your go to methods while in the field?

[@SparkyChannel]

Usually traditional method.

[@pinecone9045]

Boom ! Great vid Sparky !! Thanks

[@SparkyChannel]

No problem, thanks!

[@daviddelacruz611]

Awesome video Bill.

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks David! 👍

[@Lawlenforcer]

I saw you did shrink for the first offset, do you add shrink for the second offset as well?

[@Makitafan]

Only if you're trying to reach a set point. (Like a box) But, more likely the pipe will end and you'll be using a coupling. So it wont matter.

[@CryptoManiac1776]

Similar to the shrink when you get into a pool.

[@SparkyChannel]

LOL! Good clean joke. I like that!

[@CryptoManiac1776]

Haha. Thanks for the videos, learning a lot watching them.

[@plusultra1312]

You are a life saver

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks!

[@mikeking3110]

Nice work!

[@SparkyChannel]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@matthewstringer4424]

Great video!

[@SparkyChannel]

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks Matthew!

[@djdoubled6970]

Awesome Explanation! Thumbs Up!

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks DJ!

[@kevalva425]

where you getting 7 1/4 from

[@SparkyChannel]

The 7 1/4" was the width of the obstacle.

[@mikegranese5480]

Is that 7 1/4 " from the outside of the first pvc to the outside of the second?

[@SparkyChannel]

@@mikegranese5480 Yes.

[@moisesmendoza5998]

4:08 But didn’t he had to add 1 1/2 in shrinkage instead of 3/4 ?

[@bananaslol1]

He did 30° bends and shrinkage for them is 1/4", obstruction is 3 inches, 3 times 1/4 is 3/4. So he lost 1 1/2 on the full stick because the two bends each lost 3/4 × 2 = 1 1/2

[@stevemarrocco5880]

Hey i like the video!!! but isnt that arrow on the bender that you were using for offsets only meant for 90° bends? I thought you were supposed to use the notch for offsets

[@davidzee3755]

The notch is for your middle bend if a 3 point saddle bend and that’s all it’s used for outer bends on a 3 point saddle use the arrow as well

[@SparkyChannel]

Hi Steve. David Zee gave a perfect answer for you.

[@louiev.7006]

You used the 30 degree bend correct? So shouldn’t the shrinkage be 3/16” per 1” and not 1/4” per 1”?

[@arhodehamel2615]

for 3/4 conduit 3/16 per inch is 22.5 degree, 1/4 per inch is 30 degree. it goes up 1/16 per inch starting with 15 degrees at 1/8 per inch

[@djaztec97]

Do these principles apply for bending rigid metal conduit?

[@SparkyChannel]

Yes.

[@skully578]

You rule Sparky

[@kennethcarroll5420]

does it matter which bend you do first on the two inside bends?

[@xaviermadsen607]

No it doesn’t

[@nunyabidness2143]

Nope

[@vincentsmith4328]

Excellent work thank you. Do you have a chart like in the 3point saddle bend video please?

[@SparkyChannel]

Here you go: pdf.lowes.com/howtoguides/783250740468_how.pdf

[@vincentsmith4328]

Sparky Channel * you are a life saviour. Thank you sir

[@SparkyChannel]

@@vincentsmith4328 No problem, thanks! 2 more EMT bending videos coming this weekend. :)

[@fernandogonzalez1044]

Does the multiplier or shrink change with different size of conduit? So if the multiplier for a 1/2 inch conduit is 6 will the multiplier for 3/4 inch also 6?

[@denvercharlebois699]

yes it will

[@AdrianThErIpPeR]

Absolutely will.

[@lionheartchannel5842]

Thanks for sharing this video ❤️

[@SparkyChannel]

My pleasure 😊

[@amodsingh7777]

Watching from india

[@SparkyChannel]

Cheers from San Diego!

[@R0Y4L_BrawlStars]

How did you get 7 1/4 from the the middle ? Thought it was 6 inches from center? Just curious

[@ericstandefer9138]

You have to add 1/4 inch for shrink for every inch of rise on that side.

[@m1g1332]

It's the total measurement of the two pipes, edge to edge

[@BigT-dp5qd]

So you added the 1/4" shrinkage and 2.0 multiplier but did 30° bends . Am i wrong?

[@brandonbronner9365]

You are right. That is all correct info.

[@CleberLRamos]

Very good, perfect!!

[@SparkyChannel]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@henrygonzalez3842]

It’s a lot trickier on a electrical bender like a 555.

[@AdrianThErIpPeR]

Yeah way more spring back.

[@juantrejo10]

Cool channel sir u explain it well I’m gonna get that tape

[@SparkyChannel]

Sounds good Juan!

[@heuliseslopez4204]

Great video 😎👍

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks! 😎👍

[@sindobrandnew]

10:07 😯 wow so accurate

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks!

[@IROCKID]

How did you decide to come up 3”?

[@SparkyChannel]

The pipes were 2 5/8" off the plywood and you need to leave a little clearance so 3" was good.

[@MrThirtyFour]

Thanks..cheers

[@camallam]

"Just grab it right there." Hearing that reminded me of John Madden for some reason.

[@SparkyChannel]

May he R.I.P!!!

[@juanzamarripa3133]

Little disappointed you didn’t even mention benfield benders, still a good video!

[@SparkyChannel]

Benfield benders are excellent as well.

[@BarbaraSledge]

I'm confused about the 7-1/4"

[@adamlukasik1395]

I was at first to. 7 1/4 is the called the travel witch is the distance from the two pipe ends

[@evrlastngcherry7727]

Length of obstruction

[@josephgatewood6647]

Good job buddy.

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks Joesph!

[@robertmarquez3025]

Thanks for your video verry helpful

[@SparkyChannel]

You are welcome, thanks Robert!

[@robertmarquez3025]

I bent 14 4 points with help from your video today

[@ourleopardtortoises6543]

Great video I also use ideal they are true

[@thatssojuicy3593]

Where did you get the 7 and a quarter

[@jackjohnson1186]

That is the measurement of the obstacle (the pipes the saddle was going over)

[@SparkyChannel]

Good answer Jack! Thanks!

[@waytospergtherebro]

Except the back of the tape measure is a chart.

[@a-b-c628]

Esa tabla aplica para tubería de toda pulgada?

[@ElChapitofz]

Si solo te da la medidas de reducción y eso.

[@apackwestbound5946]

Thank you.

[@SparkyChannel]

Welcome!

[@charlieperez6844]

Nice!

[@SparkyChannel]

Thanks!

[@rocco5597]

Do you add shrinkage on both sides or one side?

[@SparkyChannel]

One side.

[@bryansoleta2101]

where i can buy that meter.i like that

[@bn3764]

Couldn’t you use the push through method so you don’t have to keep taking it out?

[@SparkyChannel]

Yes, you can do it that way too.