2022 Specialized Levo Gen 3: Ultimate in Depth Look

[@nigelrandtoul8646]

Soooooooooo much better video than embn, far better Specialized representative too. Love the detail and the why. All they need to do is a aluminium comp at around £5800.

[@brianthompson1045]

With the incredible quality of your videos some people might actually believe this bike is worth the absurd price! Nice video! Well done!

[@jimji2774]

2023 now and the Expert trim msrp is $11 K. They had it on sale for $8250 so I thought that sounded more reasonable as I wasn't about to drop $11 K. They didn't have my size in the Expert so I tested the S-Works and fell in love with the upgrades and lighter weight. Kind of feels like a different bike than the lower trim levels.Wasn't going to drop $11K now willing to pay $14200 on sale. I must be crazy but I'm old enough to get the best before my time is up.

[@richslaney]

Rob, Awesome video. Filming, photography, lighting, sound / audio, content, detail, locations = amazing…. Wow, you really are mega professional and this is TV quality stuff!

[@michael_emtb]

Absolutely loved that video Rob. My dream bike right there!!

[@vellotrol]

The best video ever about the new Turbo Levo, thanks guys! :)

[@johnchandler1]

Mate, needed this review as new model does just look the same and feels like no major upgrade. Now I am educated. Will be down to specialised store here in Vienna to order mine! Looks like worth while upgrade. Cheers mate. Know we can trust your channel to say it as it is! All the best dude!

[@chickenclips]

Lay off the crack, John

[@johnchandler1]

@@chickenclips ha ha ha... Bit jealous mate... Feeling little bit insecure? Do you need a hug? You sound like you need to get out on your bike mate and burn off some of that tension.... Reconnect with a bit of the love.. Ha ha ha..... all my very best in what obviously isn't your happy time. He he aha ha ha...

[@daniboy8]

Once again, great content, thanks Rob.

[@kburn]

Had mine for four days and I have ridden it every day. For what it is worth I have ridden it hard and got it wet and it seems much better around water ingress. I clean and air blow the area and intuitively more water is blown out and I can tell the motor is sealed much better. On that basis it could be called a masterpiece. Berkshire turbo complete the equation and there is no better lbs

[@eugenux]

wow, you have really low standards if a masterpiece is a bike with a sealing port.

[@kburn]

@@eugenux Yes I see your point on re reading it! the bike is a masterpiece and the if the motor is as protected as it seems to be it will remove one of the main headaches with the previous generation. The sum of the parts makes it a great bike no question

[@elyhim]

@@eugenux I know lol Thewy ever try a Bosch? works without three doors bro. In fact, riding through a typhoon = no problems.

[@Coolcmsc]

The thing is, why do you have to care for it like this? A motocross bike costing the same amount wouldn’t need all that care and, btw, before someone else says it, the weight penalty of keeping things working in the wet is very little different in said motocross bike. Oh, I know they sell more of the motocross bikes, but that accounts for all the other stuff on the bike. It absolutely does not account for it being perfectly fine being ridden at 30mph through deep mud-filled ruts... You just don’t have to blow-dry a motocross bike, although I will admit Berkshire Bike’s advice in Rob’s vid in 2019 is excellent. Sadly it didn’t protect my 2020 Levo, but that’s another story. Yes, let’s see how the blow-dried Gen 3’s with their Brose 2.2’s fare....

[@chrismccarthy525]

Hi great video, I am waiting for my S3 levo comp carbon to be delivered. $6750 USD in the online winter sale. Now back up to $9k, couldn't resist my first e bike from a alloy comp epic which I love. I wanted to get my wife out more the new sizing means the S3 will fit her 5'4" and also me 5'10". So when she's out I'll be on my epic and when I'm out with my mate we will be on e bikes he's just bought a Obea H15. So it's his fault that I have pulled the trigger on the levo🤣.

[@JoseCastillo-cn4dc]

Great video. I would buy it if I have the money. Current kenevo owner, I am very happy with 27.5 wheels, motor and 64 degree slack head tube angle. My bike is not the best for trail riding but a beast for down hill and jumps.

[@st1ffee]

if the bike proves reliable then they have produced a masterpiece

[@TPV07]

The motor is basically the same so get ready for your warranty rounds

[@plankhead72]

Nothing like watching a review for a bike you can never afford 😪😫

[@monsterogi69]

I can afford it but I am not sheep that needs shearing!

[@vin374]

Not everyone can afford a Mercedes or BMW either. This bike isn’t for everyone

[@plankhead72]

@@vin374 When he releases a video going down a single track in an AMG I'll watch regardless of the price tag

[@davelee88]

The question is HOW!! you can afford one?!

[@jamesevans6335]

@@lithiumbicycles5139 15.5mph not worth it gotta be at least 30mph for this price

[@86309]

Great video , and quality production.

[@wojtekdiecasting]

Good job Rob. I have some idea for You for the future bike reviews. Will be nice to get info about shock stroke, it's very important for heavier riders.

[@linework11]

Great video man I loved it.

[@Fodmtb1]

Great video Rob 👍

[@cristoffeemons1553]

£10,700 for the pro is beyond a joke That’s two of the gen 2 Levo SLs

[@majordelays4909]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[@mattx4253]

You could always opt for the s works model which has some AXS parts which cost about £500 and pay a premium of £2250 lol

[@majordelays4909]

Decathalon Stilus 2020 + brand new Honda CB125R + an full motorcycle training and gear and enough left over to trade in the 125 and buy full size or get a normal priced ebike on top. These are crazy prices

[@DawnThief23]

@@majordelays4909 No a year old R1 . They are taking the fucking piss now.

[@darrenrobson1562]

£10,700 for a bike that's crazy prices why would some pay that kind of money just for a bike u buy a car for that price

[@justwhenithought]

Awesome interview. More tech talk / design talk please.

[@EnergyNewsToday]

Try this. Just change your suspension to custom tuned DVO Onyx in the front and DVO Topaz in the rear and change the tires to Maxxis Assegai. This combo has made me the fastest I have ever ridden up or down technical and fat single track. Also consider decreasing your cranks down to 155mm with Merida. Super stable, fast and playful. Leave the flip in the low for speed and stability. Do this if you want to eek a couple more years out of your last model Turbo Levo and like the dual 29” combo. Just a thought.

[@Teamcrapsheep]

Wow , amazing bike and great video but even the dentists 🦷 will think twice with those prices.

[@graysquirreltreeservice7299]

That rearward axle path is key 🔑👌, should make it pillow like ride😍😍

[@Viking7771]

Good vid Rob!

[@jamesmaiden8020]

Great video! I love my Levo!

[@mpj96]

Nice video as always Rob. I'd like to see the plugs going into the motor. Have they improved on those? What about the hole at the back off the motor, where the loam finds it's way in. Have they sealed it.

[@Eduardoramundo]

Yes, what about the motor blanking plugs and the other end of the TCU cable where it joins the motor?

[@ronlind1757]

If they didn't talk about it... then "no"...

[@turbolevo8703]

Specialized have done a great job on this bike. I’m pleased they haven’t tried to lighten it. Keep full fat ebikes full fat! Keeping the divergence between this and the SL/lighter half power bikes Is the right way to go. The new motor casing and improved waterproofing around the power lead is very well designed. Personally I’ll be keeping my GEN 2 bike for a few more years yet, it’s still a fantastic bike. I’ve already fitted the 700 w/h battery and a wireless dropper and I’ve got the new GX AXS wireless shifter and controller coming this week. Might swap out the rear for a 27.5” but I like the all round ability of 29/29 and it suits the kind of riding I do. I’ll definitely be fitting the mastermind TCU when Specialized make them available. The one change I thought Specialized might do is to offer a plug in range extender like the SL. A 300 w/h bottle battery extender would’ve given the option of 1 kw/h for all day epic rides. Great company with world class customer care.👍 Great content Rob. Very professional. 👍

[@elyhim]

Bike is all carbon and still over 50 lbs and you say glad they didn't try to lighten it? Fact 11 lol

[@turbolevo8703]

Don’t buy it if you don’t like it and leave those of us who do like it to consider it. What is your problem? Are you jealous?

[@elyhim]

@@turbolevo8703 I am not jealous lol, I'm a fucking dentist and have several emtb's (my fav being my SL although the most recent turbo levo is probably a close 2nd). I'm pointing out how badly Specialized is fucking up atm.

[@turbolevo8703]

@@elyhim ? A dentist wouldn’t swear unprompted, talk in emoji or launch into braggadocio so enthusiastically. You’re skint and jealous mate. You’re not fooling me. Work harder for better stuff instead of throwing shade.

[@elyhim]

@@turbolevo8703 LOL, Anything to keep from talking about how bad Spesh is fucking it up atm right?

[@dazeccles]

Adapt Jetstream’s, I like this guy!

[@tjeers3098]

Nice one! Informative! Thanks!

[@jrsuk1170]

The price of this bike is beyond daylight robbery.

[@darrenrobson1562]

sure is you can buy a car for that price

[@ForbinColossus]

I know and this seems to becoming the Specialized Levo channel

[@nicolapellegrino1072]

@@darrenrobson1562 of course you can buy a car... but you have to pay other fees on that.. cars don't run by pedaling them and there are so many other expenses to pay, so the comparison is quite lame... high end bikes aren't cheap there are entry/mid level models more affordable, surely will be heavier and perform less but surely everyone can distinguish the difference riding them? I don't think so...

[@darrenrobson1562]

@@nicolapellegrino1072 it just like any other ebike really nothing special

[@nicolapellegrino1072]

@@darrenrobson1562 well I think you have to study a lot about it... because is not just like the others and to be precise I have a Trek rail not a specialized Levo so I'm not "a partisan".. Levo always been a "game changer" and this one will be exactly the same.

[@brianbathgate4944]

Great video... really credible guy from Spesh too. Like a lot of people tho - just can’t justify 5 figure bike purchases

[@johnchandler1]

Yeah specialise guy seems honest. Glad they didn't send greasy sales man.

[@brianbathgate4944]

@@johnchandler1 Really knows his stuff too. EMBN had a chat with a spaced out surfer dude... probably the head of the company :)

[@andrewvickers5565]

Another informative video 👍 and as much as I like the look of the geometry and the adjustability, by far the biggest talking point since its launch is the price (and predicted price for lower spec models). I can't help but think that specialized have shot themselves in the foot by alienating their existing and potential customer base.

[@sloanranger5]

Des that rock guard break just as easy as the current one!

[@NBMBC40]

Great video Rob will be good when you do it again for the Kenevo Prime (SL)

[@graysquirreltreeservice7299]

Your videos are the 💣💣💣💣

[@IronX77]

God bless dentists for funding ebike development! I'll be back in 2023 for the AL version!

[@johnchandler1]

Ha ha! Yeah and accountants!

[@martinschwartz7342]

These bikes are starting to get too expensive for Dentists. Yesterday, a friend, who is a dentist,t told me he would love the S-Works version of the new Levo but wasn't sure if he could afford the $15,000USD. He griped, "You have to be a doctor or a lawyer to afford one".

[@johnchandler1]

@@martinschwartz7342 I can afford one if I settle for a cheap car! Biggest mistake of my life was buying new car. Bloody sales men and snobby neighbours! I think its kinda pleasing just not to play the keeping up with neighbours game. Can be old golf rather than a fancy BMW which you worry about getting scratched and have to keep clean. Still probably just a dream! Think I'm too mean to get anything else than the Comp model!

[@McStoolio]

@@johnchandler1 no accountant worth their salt would spend 10k on a bike 😅

[@Coolcmsc]

HaHa! I’m a doctor and I can’t afford one of these. If I didn’t have something else new - that’s even better for me than a Gen 3 😉 - I’d have to wait for a lower spec version. Finally, it’s bad enough spending your whole life inside other people’s poorly cared for mouths without being teased with the Dentist bike moniker as well - let’s move on to well, who?

[@alexexpress]

As usual Turbo Levo simply the best.

[@TheOrgon]

Hi Rob, i changed from mtb to emtb in 2019 and get myself the Levo Comp Carbon. After a cut in the head tube frame i get a new 2022 Levo Expert carbon from specialized for warranty. i´m super happy about that. thank you specialist. After the first testride i can hear a sound , maybe plastic to plastic , when it gets in uneven terrain. Maybe the cables inside the frame or battery fitting. Have you any idea, or heared about this problem? Thanks Cheers Chris , Bavaria Germany

[@mattx4253]

We let you choose S sizing except we tell you what dropper size you get and if its wrong you have to buy a new one which on that bike is £600!

[@gap9992]

Good point - which bike brands allow you to specify a dropper length as that could be useful?

[@andyand100]

Good vid Rob

[@TheBarnylondon]

Always good , always interesting .... What on earth was the watch the fella was wearing ??? HUGE

[@Thisonegoestoeleven666]

The Casio Bell End.

[@TheBarnylondon]

@@Thisonegoestoeleven666 it was hideous ggggggg

[@Thisonegoestoeleven666]

@@TheBarnylondon Almost as hideous as the Levo price tag!

[@NeilsEMTBWorld]

Nice one Rob ⚡️🔋

[@appudipu]

Thank you , looking for more videos.

[@sortemout6]

Very nice bike, good looks and lots of niggles now removed/sorted .... Ya No .... its still a long way off the TREK 9.9 XTR. Going back to the stump jumper, it was the NUTS but still TREK's Y33 took the show ... specialised need to go the extra mile, I am not sure what it is thats missing, BUT they need to up their game to take the top bike for me. Thanks guys for a very open and honest review - we plebs dont get to do the riding and comparisons so need your honesty and depth of review.

[@bradleyshrimpton]

Great video Rob, always enjoy your content and your shots. Does the TCU mastermind have “stealth mode”?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Cheers! Yes. Can turn the brightness down or off (I think with it off it just displays battery level)

[@Epifani_Days]

Great video😊👌👍

[@odd_job_007]

If I could afford it I'd have one for sure!

[@cat1600k]

Great to see they have made strides to stop water ingress and beef up cables - shame they screw existing owners for new cables and motors - hoping that the new prices are so high so they can start funding discounts on gen 1 replacement parts 🤣😂🤣

[@evilempire4939]

Hey Rob thanks a lot of the huge work you do one this channel! im going to buy my levo 2023 its size exactly the same than the older one? if i was L ill take L on this one too? Cheers

[@vin374]

I have one on order. Just waiting for delivery to the LBS. I’m not even a dentist.

[@cheres79]

Great video! Very curios about the motor noise compared to 2.1 motor? Great video! Any info would be great 🙏

[@RobRidesEMTB]

About the same 👍

[@Ukmongoose3]

I would love one of these new ebikes, but dont you just hate to be the rich kid amongst all the guys who actually have some talent 😉

[@jasonkendal3407]

Really good thanks!

[@stevem4038]

Very professional set up and production values Rob. Looked at some of your earlier content. Like night and day mate. Would like to see you critique products more though. If you don't offer an informed alternative opinion you are merely indicating agreement. My question: for £13k+ is this package really worth it? this review did not answer that.

[@davorkotarski-samoborskibr8122]

Rob new Orbea Wild or Turbo Levo? One of this bikes I will buy, what do you recommend, which is better?

[@stiantorkildsen2708]

Hi Rob. Great video. How tall are you? Im wondering if I should get an s4 or s5... Im 183 cm tall

[@akamcnabb2034]

have they sorted out the dodgy TCU connectors yet, I have a 2021 SL expert and the advice was 'some people wrap them in tape', love the bike but I recon they can do a bit better than that...

[@cpF01]

All that cash but you still have to deal with the Reverb😬 That would be the 1st thing in the bin. Cool bike though.

[@gap9992]

Love that they have now fitted a crap flap as standard. I have had a home made version of that on my Levo since I bought it and it works really well! I have 1.5 years left on my motor warranty so if it "blows up" it should get replaced with with a fully sorted 2.2

[@elyhim]

LOL nope - in store credit, you pay the difference.

[@juniorlamont4204]

Rob great content. Where were you riding?

[@themotorguy]

What bag are you using in this video Rob?

[@j0rdi]

Hi Rob! Superb video!👍 Are you using GoPro MAX for the POV? 360 or normal mode? chest mount? thank you very much

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Yes GoPro MAX in hero mode 👍

[@dannyhahn4]

Great review rob!! Can you put 29er wheel in the rear?

[@lengerber2203]

How much motor noise is included in the price. The first gen was quiet. I still ride one. The second gen was too noisy for a bicycle and after two months I returned it and was refunded. Now nobody likes to talk about the noise in their reviews!

[@leeburrell9084]

Love it! If the new upgrades prove to be effective then I’ll be trading in my Expert I reckon, love all the versatility the bike has to offer 👍

[@Sascha0484]

Hey Rob, very nice channel and very good review of this beauty. I`m planing to get the Levo Gen 3 comming from Gen 2 in Size XL (S5). Now I want a little bit more agility. Do you think the S4 or the S5 Size would better fit ( Same size as you have, 187cm ) ? Thanks for your Help, keep going, thumbs up Greetz from Germany

[@AliB-cf3bq]

Looks great but 13K for a mountain bike puts it beyond anything most of us can afford. I'll wait for the aluminium framed bikes and by then we'll no doubt have info from the s work owners regarding the motor and if specialized have sorted all the issues they had with the previous gens.

[@penknifemonkey]

That charging door is in the firing line for rock impacts. Bottoming the bike out. The charging door needs to be higher.. Also open the door to many times it will snap. Not a proper hinge.

[@richardbourne9712]

Great video. Would be good to see that battery port cover and new motor cable available as upgrade for older bikes/batteries as it looks like it would be compatible for gen 2 levo? (would also mean could use old battery on new levo when I eventually buy one!)

[@marcusoutdoors4999]

Why the 12 speed transmission, and huge rear sprocket? This just looked to cause massive chain slap and make no sense when you consider the smaller rear wheel. Otherwise, a very mild evolution. Great review by Rob, now he needs to put it up against the Whyte 160RS.

[@ForbinColossus]

Love ya, Rob, but please don't let this become the *Specialized Levo channel*

[@ChupacabraOffroad]

What percentage of videos on his channel are about the Levo? He deserves to get paid promotion videos but reviews lots of other bikes and products. Let the man eat for all of his hard work.

[@minowak]

@Rob - Could you compare (side-by-side) the bike of the 2nd generation with the 3rd generation? I mean getting a view as a geometry comparison. You talk a lot about feeling and how it looks in practice.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hey minowak - this may help, side by side geometry comparison: www.emtbforums.com/community/threads/official-specialized-gen-3-2022-levo-megathread.20298/post-282828

[@davidhudson8960]

As offensive as the price is, I'm more offended by the mix of sharp transition and fade on the paint job...

[@anthonylau6691]

You get the worst of both worlds

[@Celeon999A]

Yeah the S-Works paintjobs of the Gen3 are really no lookers. The matt red of the Pro version is nice though.

[@rirrid5662]

Agreed but my Trek Rail is more hideous in bright orange.

[@CoyoteMTB77]

Rob is it like a Kenevo when BB adjusters and head angle super slack but turns better? If so then I’m super interested

[@turbolevo8703]

How about a navigation app for the new tcu that prompts the rider with direction arrows? Perhaps linked to a smartphone for increased gps accuracy and ease of downloading routes?

[@kevwalton272]

id love to know how much profit margin these bikes make! its getting ridiculous £8750 for the cheapest model what?

[@linework11]

Is the X2 tuned for this bike I am 215 lbs and have a DPX on my levo now and running at 295 psi watching all your videos which I love I heard th x2 needs even more air to get correct sag. seems like a lot of pressure. With I think its max is 250 PSI. I know your 6"3' like my self.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

I’m at 270 psi pretty sure Max is 300 psi. Yes it’s rx tuned for this bike

[@martinschwartz7342]

Hi Rob. I am your height(193cm). I am more arms than legs, having an inseam of 83cm. After experiencing the S5 sized Levo, would you recommend the S5 or the S6 for me? Thanks.

[@itmtb540]

I have the Gen 2 Levo that I love and I would like the new features of this one, but for this price I just can't even imagine spending 2x what my Levo costs.. I am thinking about buying a new vehicle and that is $16,000 when a bike costs almost that much that is absurd. When are we going to stop with the prices going up and up.. I would love to upgrade to the Gen 3 but I am NOT about to spend $12k on a damn bike.

[@pe3117]

Don’t cry...you are not obligated to buy one 🤷‍♂️

[@roderick9018]

Gen 2 still just as good just upgrade to a 160mm 38 and you're close enough problem solved

[@mikebebb9268]

Fair play the bike looks mega in that white/grey combo. But then it should do..........it’s £13k FFS! 😂🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@leeburrell9084]

Hey Rob, great video as always 👍 I know your taking a bit of time out but do you know if the rear triangle/chainstay is interchangeable with the gen2 ? It’s the only gripe I have with my gen2 would love it to be a bit more nimble and would be great if I could swap out the rear triangle.

[@DavidFDomingos]

A 14k bicycle ??? goes all crazy ...

[@henrychinaski5306]

Does anyone know how this bike differs in Japan? I live in Japan, and I was told that the motor and battery are different.

[@IchimokuCloud]

Went to order the S-Works. But, my local bike shop informed me it's already sold out.

[@anika9893]

They saved you from yourself.

[@faceinthecrowd5810]

Hopefully the availability of a new motor and replacement parts will help us who can afford to buy this used on craigslist in 5 years.

[@MTBNomad]

The amount of advertising and KZbinrs pushing this bike down our throats is sad. It is not worth that money. I’m not saying people won’t buy it…I’m just saying we let them take us to the cleaners.

[@martinho6760]

can you have extra range extender battery to this levo s-works 2022?

[@richyprice9170]

Where was this filmed, the trails look good, anyone help with location

[@garytyler3017]

As soon as it said includes paid promotions it’s not worth a shit. I’m only interested in a non bias review from someone who isn’t paid by specialized

[@turbolevo8703]

Wrong. There’s lots of good information here that people are interested in.

[@herodrivermusicchannel4571]

Very nice👍

[@artoutlawphoto]

that's a proper stick that hold the bike. I never seen that before. At the price the bike costs, maybe the stick is also included :)

[@declanmolloy764]

1000 euro

[@captnhuffy]

GREAT innovations as well as **VITAL* incremental improvements !! Because of these improvements I have been looking VERY close at eMtbs, and did 11 test rides recently. YES: I'm very impressed. Personally, I'm looking forward to these great ideas being rolled out to the more affordable models. When that happens I will pull the trigger for sure. I have the money for the top end bike, but the bang per buck still isnt there. I have a strong preference for mtn biking over MC, but at these prices the eMtb better do an excellent job of replacing my ktm

[@vv5179]

They’re taking all the suspension and swingarm design queues from dirtbikes and incorporating them to a mountain bike; all the way down to the rubber roost pad on the inside of the swingarm (chain stay and seat tube area for the pedaling folk).

[@davenawahine4428]

I'm holding out for the new and improved 2022-1/2 $30,000 Levo, should be out in a couple of months.

[@Peakwanderer]

Vado SL with a 700 wh battery for me please.

[@pjhenry13]

Can the mastermind tcu be retrofitted to the gen 2 levos??

[@MrBradbury001]

that was my thoughts, although i'd want to fit it to a 2020 Levo SL. I am currently using the specialized screen to read the cadence which I find useful. like rob I really like the integrated look.

[@robhaskins3068]

Frame shape below seat post tube looks very much like my 2018 super quiet and reliable powerful motor ?????? with the original wider stronger belt ????

[@bikespike711]

Allow me to be a tad critical Rob, as well intended feedback from some of your subs or perhaps just me. I appreciate the financial imperative of making paid content, but in the past you had been rightly critical, this and the previous video are just plain adverts. Yes, I don’t have to watch, but..... There is an obvious policy decision at Specialized - they can sell their bikes at ludicrous prices! Pricing out some on financial grounds and others on principle of buying ridiculously priced products. The so-called changes in the new Levo are anything but earth shattering for 99.9% of ebikers. The adverts are aimed at causing a (non existent) storm. Any of us can fit a 27.5 rear wheel, the rest is gimmickery for the likes of me. One degree head angle change made the bike more stable? Really? At that speed and on that track....I wonder. Importantly, what is point of changing head angle for climbing in an ebike? The whole concept is nuts for assisted pedalling. The shock is not a Specialized product, pointless to discuss its merits or otherwise in such depth. Just some random thoughts.

[@chickenclips]

you pretty much said what I did but in a much more eloquent way lol... spot on

[@turbolevo8703]

The bike is an evolution of an already excellent bike and the changes are important and welcome. The new TCU is very nice. I don’t quite understand the point you’re trying to make here. Why change the bike behind all recognition if the original was so good?

[@lphtahoe]

Well said. Another ‘paid promotion’. This time I am only hear for comments. I am certainly not gonna watch a 28 minute commercial.

[@sloanranger5]

Cane Creek came up with adjustable headset years ago, look where that’s gone!

[@MC-zu5lj]

Noone mentioned ugly painting... 2019,2020,2021 and basically all 2015+ Spec bikes looks way nicer. Imho it looks like pre-2014 Epic. Ofc it's just a paiting but who does not bother how his 10k bike looks like?

[@spin2win721]

Not a big fan of the long low slack movement. More specifically not the low part. Unless you’re going down slopes with straight lines and not much technical obstacles, they turn like shit and pedal strikes along with bottom bracket strikes are too often and costly at times.

[@davemoore893]

Rather have the whyte e180rs for alot less it's stupid money for a bike

[@Trekman78]

The whyte 180rs is ment to be a very good bike bloke by me owns one he come from specialized and said he never return

[@deadgum11]

I'm torn between an 180rs or a new reign e+0