I'm a turbo lover. I want all the power, all the time. I do like the idea of more range, but I don't want to dial it back at all. I just got my Turbo Levo 2 weeks ago so I'm just learning how to use it. I have been riding for over 30 years on regular bikes so I have a lot of experience. For me, pedaling is the thing I like the least about riding. I don't care about fitness benefits, I ride for fun. It's more fun with more power. Even if riding was bad for my health, I would still do it. When I want to increase fitness I go to the gym, or I'll ride road. It's not that fitness isn't important but it's not primarily why I ride. But I do want to get more range out of my Levo, and I know I can't just blast it in Turbo all ride, so these types of videos help me better understand how the bike works. It's a technological masterpiece with a lot to learn. So far, this bike has changed my life. I've been riding regular bikes my entire life, and this completely changes how, where, when and how long I can ride.
@patrickkocha2680 Жыл бұрын
Love specialized bikes they look like a peace of art can sit back a look at all day or ride it lol
@deanlawson5640Ай бұрын
Have been using micro tune on my gen 3 turbo Levo for sometime now and definitely is a saving. Incidentally I’ve also converted to 29er rear wheel, changed the chain stay chip to low setting on rear to cater for 2.4 rear tyre clearance. Front geometry at low setting as well. BB height increase about 5mm. For all our mixed riding here in South Africa you will get another 5% minimal battery saving as there less rolling resistance etc. great video. Thanks
@SWFlowseeker Жыл бұрын
I think micro tune is the best feature of the new Levo. Love the vid
@paulmerc396010 ай бұрын
Why do i see so many riders riding without gloves? I always ride with gloves. Idk. I feel its good protection. If you fall, the gloves will help for sure.
@lozetchells91642 жыл бұрын
Great video! I do something similar with my 2022 Comp Carbon. The way I do it is by adjusting eco mode to 20% instead of the default of 30%. I spend nearly all my time in eco but use trail on the techy uphill stuff, and very rarely use turbo. I'm a 75Kg rider. Might sound masochistic but you really do get used to it and it's good both for your range and general fitness!
@rolux48532 жыл бұрын
I own the same bike and maybe the SL would be a better bike for you? It’s lighter and faster like this and if you compare power output, you’re style of riding perfectly suits the SL. I ride my Levo as fast as possible and give as much as I can, often in trail and turbo, to get as much fun and trail kilometers as possible in a ride! I ride daily and I love that I can ride 30km of medium gnarly trails in under two hours. With some very steep uphills where I occasionally loop out backwards. That’s why I choose the Levo and not the SL. For you’re kind of riding I’d take the SL (but I personally would choose the Enduro..excuse me, Kenevo SL then).
@lozetchells91642 жыл бұрын
@@rolux4853 good points Ro, and yes I did seriously consider the SL. But I tend to do long old treks in the Highlands so need the range of the bigger battery. If a SL-weight bike with the range of the full fat bike was possible, I'd be on it like a car bonnet
@bikingvikingrcm66682 жыл бұрын
Loz I managed 30 miles on a full battery on my Levo sl last weekend had the range extender just incase can quite easily get another 10/15 miles out of it. I weigh about 82kg and ride mostly in trail 30/100 self adjust mode. Use eco on DHs and turbo 100/100 on tetchy climbs or when I'm knackered.
@westfaliajournal7519 Жыл бұрын
On my 2019 Levo Comp Carbon I (90kgs) have used the bike power levels set for 10/25/100%, 10% kind of makes up for the weight of the bike, 25% gives that assist up most hills... and 100% essentially powers me up those knee-breakers (or that damn hill close to home). I feel I get a great 'longer' workout without the big hills prematurely ending the day.
@Jean-jk4zv2 жыл бұрын
next step is a learning e-bike. it learns how you microtune and proposes a curve of assistance. and It adjusts the curve as time passes and you still need to do some live tuning. after some time it knows your needs and live adjustments are less and less common. some smartphones do this already for screen brightness so...
@thelocalangler2 жыл бұрын
for my self i have the 2021 turbo levo and what i did is i would turn on the power but i would not engage any of the power modes. i would ride like a normal bike till i hit a hill climb that i would need the power assist so i would hit the eco mode, and when i am at the top of the hill i would take it off eco and back to regular biking. i did a 4.5 hour ride and about 65km loop and only used 18% battery on my 500 battery. most of that was used on the way back because of a sudden change in the wind where we were now riding against a head wind. for most of the ride i would try to rely mostly on myself and only rely on the power assist as a secondary option when i needed it. i also have the power assist setting on the app set on 30% power.
@frankwittwer31412 жыл бұрын
Give me your batterie please, you do nit need any :-)
@ERone438 ай бұрын
So you pedal around a 60lb bike? Why not just buy a regular MTB? Jw
@theoldgoat45252 жыл бұрын
Wait, are you saying that if you use less of something that it will last longer? No way!
@pattersonstark70 Жыл бұрын
What I did not hear you talk about was the cadence and power curves. When I use micro-tune, I have a sweet range that is generally 10 -15 RPMs higher in the overall ride. If you spin faster, it feels easier but you use more energy to spin. The motor on the Levo increases in efficiency all the way to 90 RPMs in my experience. Moving from an average of 59 RPM to 70 made all the difference. And totally agree micro tune should be 2-speed, 5%, and/or 10% range options per where you are riding.
@gambiting Жыл бұрын
There's an interview with an engineer from Specialized, saying that the motor on the turbo levo is most efficient at 75 rpm. It's good to have a cadence display up(either through ANT+ on an external computer or if you have the Mastermind TCU then you can have it right there on the main display - super useful).
@ernestrodrigues8030 Жыл бұрын
Great video for me, given I’m new to e bikes and I was trying to figure out what that 10%-20% meant on my bike. Had no clue what micro tune was. Just got the 2023 Levo comp.
@CaviDS2 жыл бұрын
what is the Garmin mount I see on your handlebars?
@raphaellima95392 жыл бұрын
EMTB Trek mode !!! 😉
@robbief12 жыл бұрын
Surely the future is that you just dial in the effort / assistance you want on average, and the bike would figure out what mode you should be in. Essentially keeping your effort fairly constant...... It would be far more accurate, and quicker for a microcontroller to figure that all out than our measly brains and muscles.
@ericdunthorne19812 жыл бұрын
I've been reading my E-bike a lot in the last few weeks. I'm often making adjustments preemptively for the obstacle I'm about to tackle. So I can have confidence in the assistance through the climb. I'd think having the assistance adjut without you expecting it would be a bit jarring. Also the human brain is still. The most complex thing we know of in the universe so far. It's capable of subconsciously taking account of many variables in a fraction of a second. Having some sort of Neuralink interface with any technology is probably the future.
@StuartPlumbley2 жыл бұрын
Isn't this what Bosch's EMTB or Tour+ modes do, but automatically.
@philboynz2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if an auto mode would work better as in on the trek and reign for instance🤔 and I wonder if spesh will bring out an equivalent one day 🤔
@neuzethmusic131Ай бұрын
Simply changing my front Assegai to a Minion DHF Terra is saving a LOT of battery on my Bosch CX. Assegai has horrible rolling resistance imho.
@8664antonio2 жыл бұрын
looks like the BLeVO smart system always can do this“ one my 2021 levo.
@acelectricalsecurity2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how much those bikes cost, but they won't be cheap, yet the latest feature on them is micro tune, a feature a lot of bolt on kits have had for years, and at a fraction of the cost.
@Rideoak2 жыл бұрын
10000 Euro
@utube0911162 жыл бұрын
on Bosch cx perf. i allways use eco mode, only for a really steep part i use 'tour' or 'emtb' ; so isuppose it won't help me a lot... XLnt test btw!
@Roaming502 жыл бұрын
I found that. Eco for normal riding and punch it into tour for the hills.
@alfredobasilioseijas232 жыл бұрын
Works great, I love it
@quitemountainous25282 жыл бұрын
Steve, you said there is about 20kg difference between you (it would help to know your weights, to give us an idea/comparison to ourselves, as weight is such an important factor), would the saving be similar with someone lighter or heavier or would it be still about 20%? Would you save more using same microtune settings if you weigh, say 95kg or 55kg? That would give us all a fuller picture, shame you did not use microtune in same time, a missed opportunity there or maybe an idea for another video....
@rafaroennau6 ай бұрын
Greetings from Brazil. Can you put here the configuration of micro tune?
@VTECH6502 жыл бұрын
if you dont mind me asking how old are you guys .im56 and hope to enjoy both e mountain and regular mountain bikes for years to come
@Coolcmsc2 жыл бұрын
This is interesting and certainly appears to work. But how much of the 20% is due to being fit and skilled enough to achieve maximum benefit from micro tune? 655 KWhr for 60km (or was it 55km?) and 1300m (almost 4300ft) is very impressive without microtune… 500 is exceptional with or without any tuning on that ride. I think it would provide an important benefit for ‘normal’ people (me! 🤣), but I suspect shear MTB inteligence, capability and track interpretation may also be at work in today’s vid to get the ‘whole’ 20%. It would have been nice to know what Steve had left in the tank each time round (I couldn’t decide if you went round twice Steve) and we already know Steve, being a very experienced pro and pro eeb rider too despite the 20Kg (😳) can eek out a lot from a battery (compared to Doddy!). My point is, would it still be 20% improvement for ‘ordinary’ eeb riders? If not, how much: another vid?
@Bearded_Mountain_Biker2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the video. I’ve got a ‘21 Levo SL with the old CPU/minimalist display. I’m a bit confused if the micro-tuning is an on the fly thing you adjust as you spin? Or, is it a saved mode with slightly less assistance per mode? Something you only get on the newest CPU?
@lozetchells91642 жыл бұрын
It's an on the fly thing. You press the +/- buttons on the remote simultaneously (iirc) and that puts you in microtune mode and the display shows assistance level. From there you use + or - to increase or decrease the assistance.
@rolux48532 жыл бұрын
I have the new TCU and I can adjust it on the fly when holding the plus button for a few seconds. Unfortunately I can’t tell you if it works like this on the „old“ TCU and how you are able to see how much % without a display.
@bikingvikingrcm66682 жыл бұрын
Won't work on the old tcu unfortunately. Also specalized haven't released a software update to you could upgrade to the new tcu not that you would want to at £400 rrp 🤣😂
@steelgtr Жыл бұрын
Why not just tune in mission control? I don't get it?
@Petrolhead9122 жыл бұрын
Get 50% more range , go to the alps in season when the lifts are running 👍
@andyperrott29152 жыл бұрын
I can see that new controller is a great improvement but I am now on my third original controller under warranty on my 2020 levo Sl .I suspect due to moisture Ingress even though I take great care to reduce this It would seem that the controllers are not IP rated or very poorly sealed (My mates bike has also failed on the second day of our trip to Scotland) Does the new controller have better sealing suitable for UK riding Cheers Andy
@blacktiger955i2 жыл бұрын
It's been recommended to wrap tape around the seam that runs around the controller .
@elbacalao1059 Жыл бұрын
Yes Microtune is better and bikes that don't have it are "outdated". That begs the question, why has Specialized not provided an upgrade path for their older e-bikes that don't have the Mastermind controller? Oh yeah, MONEY!!
@TakeAHikeToday2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video….Is is possible to upgrade to the Mastermind? I have a 2022 Levo Comp without it.
@bikingvikingrcm66682 жыл бұрын
Specialized need to release a software patch. At the moment you can't do this at £400rrp who would want to tho
@Matt-ns2ei2 жыл бұрын
Can Chris do some of these vids?
@chargedmtb74402 жыл бұрын
Blevo is the best app controller. Too bad that it can not be used on the new gen.
@Paulmac20112 жыл бұрын
Can't help thinking other manufacturers have addressed this with auto modes. Think Spesh are now lagging in this technology, and are trying to address the inherent problem with a non automatic system?
@MiroPhotography2 жыл бұрын
Stay over 25k and you will never need MicroTune :-) The assistance is needed for climbs over 15% ...
@ERone438 ай бұрын
I never take my Levo out of Eco mode. I wish you would have adressed people tuning with their phone instead of the mastermind.
@richardclarke60372 жыл бұрын
Richard out of Barbados. Question about when do I need to recharge my battery. After a ride no matter how much I use, at a percentage down , eg 50 20 % or after 2 3 days even if you are not riding every day and there is still power in the battery. Hope you can . help thanks
@johnoakleymusic2 жыл бұрын
Well you do have instant full power if you want it by using the max power mode button on the top of the switch unit so what he said about it being a downside if you suddenly need max power is rubbish. It is available instantly on tap with one button push. What Specialized needs to do now is bring out a new switch unit. Same plus and minus buttons for micro tune and a parallel plus and minus for mode selection. So coarse tune and fine tune button layout
@lozetchells91642 жыл бұрын
My 2022 turbo levo doesn't have that button. The only button on the top is for switching the display mode on the TCU
@eugenux2 жыл бұрын
instead of trying to convince us that Spez battery is enough, better to convince Spez to put a bigger and more efficient battery in the bike..., what do think about that?
@eph8334 Жыл бұрын
If he lost that 2kilo gut he would save even more battery 😊
@Dba15152 жыл бұрын
That word 'default'...😅😂😅
@ЯрославаБогдан-я3ь Жыл бұрын
Handyman
@lyellclare93652 жыл бұрын
Getting 20% more range from an EVO just gets the rider 20% further away from the EVO motor repair shop.
@malanalan12 жыл бұрын
maybe you could explain what Micro Tune is and how it works. Jeez!
@robhaskins30682 жыл бұрын
Eat more salad, Why didn't you just link your heart rate monitor to smart control with 20% support until your heart got over 120 bpm.🤔🤔 even 2018 levos have this feature .E=Mtb²
@mamadjun2 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Micro-tune test should have been done first.
@Mcfc2Rich2 жыл бұрын
Micro toon is a great opportoonity for toonability, watch on youtoob. When British people say tune like that it fucks me off lol