2024 Levo SL - 3 Huge Updates!

[@MrMirfaelltnixein]

In my opinion the quality of your reviews, regarding video-Quality, camera-setup, drone footage, slow-mo etc. ... is the actuall benchmark of testing Videos on KZbin. It´s even BETTER than stuff from channels like GMBN oder EMBN (sorry guys i really like your work! But Rob make such a good job) .. So, i follow you since 4 years now and the evolution of your videos is massive! Hands up for your work and time on all these reviews and also to your research and enhanced information you gave the viewer. Cheers! :)

[@PelicanIslandLabs]

The price of these bikes is insane.

[@Shawn-in-da-Canyon]

I like the pricing. It means when I wanna new bike, they’ll probably be one there for me. It’s called supply and demand.

[@Shawn-in-da-Canyon]

@@asifitmatters1 Specialized is nowhere near bankruptcy. Things have slowed down and all companies are getting rid of employees and downsizing.

[@Shawn-in-da-Canyon]

@@asifitmatters1 Oh, that’s a good one. Giant owns nothing of Specialized. They make some frames for them, but that’s it. With that said, I hate the company and I’ll never buy anything they make.

[@igorberezin856]

Don't buy it then. I won't. Eventually they will get even better with time

[@DW-10]

@@asifitmatters1 delaying payment is not the same thing as not being able to pay. It can be a tactic used to smooth cash flow. Bike sales ramped up way above trend over COVID. Orders throughout the bike supply chain from component manufacturers to retailers. Many companies also hired extra staff to cope. Now with the slow down there is inventory surplus. This delays the revenue to manufacturers and they are in turn delaying payment to component suppliers. You would have to analyse their financial statements to justify your claims. You should also ideally look at a longer term trend. If for example a company hired 1000 extra staff to cope with the blip of COVID demand and then let 1000 staff go when the blip finished, they are simply resourcing to meet their needs. That isn’t a sign of trouble in and of itself.

[@oliverbourne9599]

Funny, even if you're not interested in the bike, you still watch Rob's videos anyway, for two reasons: 1. The production is so good, you get a great mountain biking fix. Locations were great in this one 2. You may well hear a tip / get some insight you didn't know, as he gets into detail riders want 👌👌

[@halfbrain86]

Very impressed by your video quality👍💪(not so much by the bike itself but thats just me). One sees that you put a lot of work and passion into this videos. You really honor the bikes and its companies by delivering such high quality stuff.

[@fredericosoares4613]

You came to test the new machine in my backyard, I am happy, because Sintra has fantastic trails and where it is possible to test all the capabilities of this new bike. Another excellent video.

[@jamesj97370]

These prices are still absolutely staggering. Judging by the sales Specialized were having towards the end of the year I'm guessing the up take for over priced bikes is dropping off. Just to remind you this S-Works bike is only £3k off a Ducati V2 Panigale!!!!!

[@Magoo71]

And that Panigale is ridiculously pricy!

[@IT-fr4wb]

Yeah, not entering into t quality and value of these awesome bits of kit, but out here in t real world t squeeze is on finances, + no matter how much we may appreciate + love riding one of these things …. it ain’t gonna happen for me! Last years model discounted for whatever reason is where I’ll look.

[@TheSpagecko]

Yeah. I definitely over spent on the Stumpy alloy Evo back in 2022 I love the bike though. I wish they had a frame only version of the new Turbo Levo SL that is not on the S Works branding

[@jamesj97370]

@T Bone I've only got one! 🤣

[@thogan7242]

Thanks for the review Rob! Well produced! I find it difficult to sit through most reviews due to lack of substance and overly chatty speakers. This one on the other hand was informative, fact filled and minimal fluff. Thank you!!!!

[@brucec2787]

Love to see how you feel it compares to the Trek Fuel EXe? Motor sounds less quiet on your videos. How does the output feel?

[@themuellers5384]

Hey Rob, thanks for once more the most comprehensive video of a new bike on KZbin! Did you weigh your S5 and are allowed to tell how much it actually weighs? I suppose 17.7 isn't the S5's weight. Thanks!

[@pauljennings1466]

Powered Stumpy Evo mullet - dreams do come true!

[@christophersmith879]

You're shifting sounds louder so ebikes are definitely heading in the right direction. This with a range extender could be a great trail exploration weapon. This makes me consider the dark side of ebikes.

[@billderas3420]

Thanks Rob. Especially for having tried the 29" rear wheel. Really like the 29"/29" setup on my current SL.

[@rtann]

Great looking bike and the trials there look very lush . Here in NSW, AUs its very rocky and very unforgiving if you fall (basically on rock). Great article !!

[@sportherz]

Excellent quality video from the pictures and style. Definetly liked that you tried the 29er config. However, a comparison to the TREK is what everybody is interested in, mayber you can do that in the future. There is one point regarding the battery, you mentioned that in the Gen 1 SL the battery could not be removed, which is actually not correct, it was removable, which is important for flying. So the question is, does this hold for the Gen 2 SL or is this no longer the case? Keep up the great work!

[@der_arvid]

So, since there is a new motor for SL bikes, can we expect a new Kenevo SL soon as well? Or will we have to wait another year for that?

[@mehukatti123]

I hope they bring this new tech to Kenevo SL!

[@steveharper4017]

What a bike. Just what was needed. Wonder will they offer motor upgrades to those with 35 NM motors?

[@WestonJamesPalmer]

I appreciate the effort you put in these videos. The go to for reviews. New SL or Fuel EXE? What would be the better, closer to enduro out of those 2?

[@EenduroMaster]

Love the the look of this black bike. It is mint. Spec trumps the competition again.

[@76ram1]

Great review Rob. Specialized we’re the pioneers, pathfinder’s of e-bikes and we have a lot to thank them for. However, I feel this bike is for the Specialized diehards, as there ecosystem is lagging behind TQ’s. Their motors are virtually silent and the display integration is much nicer. That SL motor sounds as loud as my full fat Levo. Perhaps Specialized realise they are loosing market share and punted this out as a stop gap and they need to address their excessive pricing.

[@haribouss]

@flippy5118droppable battery ONLY on some brands/models!

[@haribouss]

There are things to critizice about Spe e-bikes for sure. But software ecosystem is not one of them. In fact their interface is much more refined and options richer than TQ offering. Not even comparable to the diodes of Fazua 😂. And what about integration it is barely the same, except for the slightly more recessed screen on TQs. But in counterpart it lacks the higher definition and colors of the Spe, so…

[@Cajo22]

Awesome Bike at Awesome Trails…🤩 the majority of them are my local trails at Sintra…🌳🌿 Hope you had Fun!!

[@LargeeeScaleLife]

I just hope these motors are more durable. I am averaging replacing at least one specialize motor every week at my shop. And I have had to warranty two batteries so far this week.😊

[@xaviernieblaogorman236]

Great review, great riding; Rob is the Chris Harris of the eMTB!

[@WERIDEpt]

Great to have you here in SINTRA for some real testing on this new super light muscled horse! Epic video as usual 👌

[@ocdmods4992]

I'm glad I held out. Almost pulled trigger on a Rise. May have to reconsider now.

[@BikingwithJP]

Thanks, this appears to be the perfect bike to buy my wife to ride around town. I may borrow it a lot.

[@Bearded_Mountain_Biker]

Thanks for the great review! I’ve got the ‘22 Levo SL and I absolutely love it. The funnest bike I’ve ever owned! The 50Nm upgrade sounds appealing along with the Fox 36 though!

[@Patbike]

Really hope the 1.2 motor can be bought seperately and put in the old SL!

[@martinschwartz7342]

That is the big question for many of us. I hope Rob can find out and tell us.

[@Vodafone16v]

Looking forward to the new full-powered LEVO 👀

[@philhicks5818]

Was told by my dealer yesterday, they are 12 months away

[@lozetchells9164]

I can't wait for the new full fat one either.. Really hope they sort the motor reliability. I haven't had issues personally but plenty have... But it wouldn't put me off, I absolutely LOVE my Levo

[@IlkerCagatayASIK]

A great review as always the same, Rob. Nice footage, well production. The place where you took the video is just amazing. The bike looks solid however I’d prefer more powerfull motor than 55Nm but again it is lighter and capable for sure. 😊

[@Cajo22]

#Sintrabiketrails 🤙

[@phattysnow]

Id love to know your thoughts on why would someone pick this over the tq50 or fauza 60 offerings?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

They all have their strengths. TQ is ultra stealth. Very quiet. Nice power delivery. Fazua great motor, not as refined in the app / controls. SL 1.2 feels more powerful than TQ, is extremely refined in display / controls and app is great. TQ not as efficient as Fazua or SL 1.2 (In my own experience anyway). All great systems, competition is good for us consumers, it forces innovation.

[@MTBs]

Cool! How is the motor compared to Trek's TQ motor? I thought the TQ motor was not much more powerful than the now old SL 1.1.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

I think it’s stronger. Back to back test video coming.

[@MTBs]

@@RobRidesEMTB Thank you, great to hear!

[@bjornvesterdahl9238]

Please include orbea rise in that comparison.👍🏻

[@pipots]

Rob, when are you going to try the 1.2 motor on your kenevo SL? or is there an NDA with SPLZ?

[@BernoPotgieter]

This is the bike that will convert me from normal MTB to ebike. I just bought one :) But gosh, that price

[@cherylparrish1179]

Same. Should be here in a few days.

[@emtbtrailrider539]

I like the older Levo SL but I want the more power in my Older Levo SL, is this possible?

[@Dirtyfreqs]

im wondering the same thing.. I was comparing the design of the motor mounts they appear to be identical.. and they do use the same motor for a # of different bikes.

[@eliasbrenn7395]

Can you buy the new motor and put in the Kenevo Sl????

[@donniedarkomtb7048]

No as it’s re-mastered

[@squirerides8371]

Woo hoo! Thanks for the great overview. This week, I thought I'd trashed the rear triangle on my 2020 LSL and was thinking parts-swap to a cheap LSL Gen2. But, sadly, i just about managed to fix it :(

[@NBSTL68]

Great quality video! How many cameras, drones and downhill runs does it take to actually make a sub-20 min video look so effortless? I thought the 2023 had the "Gen2" motor... So is these changes specific 2024?

[@barryrowles8851]

Great review. Where abouts did you film it? Looks a great place

[@OlivierSoares]

I’m Portugal 🇵🇹 my hometown and backyard in Sintra 👌👌👌

[@nickolp-it7bo]

Nice bike and review Rob, just a ridiculous price

[@harrymain]

More content on Specialized SL models!

[@kayakutah]

4:20 regarding 17 to 18kg bikes making sense; not at $14000! The question really is, what's the weight on the $7000-$8000 versions and if that doesn't matter, why does it on the megabucks versions? Once you do reviews on these as they come out, I'd love to see reviews on the bikes the serfs can ride!

[@MatSpooner]

Great job I’ve just got mine and I love it 😊

[@andrextr]

Sintra 😊😊 My local trails . Great vídeo as usual 👍👍

[@Dwyeb73]

I’ll keep my full 29 custom built Kenevo but that’s pretty cool for the weight. Great video thanks.

[@28Jcarlo]

Trek Fuel EXE vs SL Carbon Comp ? In the market looking at this two models

[@barryjessop9422]

Great review as always Rob

[@sandywatson1082]

Quietness isn't a problem my knees makes more noise than any motor :)

[@UUche]

Hey again, great vid. Just wondering, could you install the new 1.2 motor in the old Levo SL or are the mounting point completely different?

[@Jwmbike14]

The mounting is the same, but the only way to do it is to buy a new SL. It's the same as the KSL too, but again, can't get a motor. In addition, you'll have to design and 3d print a motor cover as the motor cover changed for the new bike as well, and you can not reuse the old covers.

[@mtb_3930]

Rob - is the battery removable for flying. Or not?

[@corwath1]

It’s a nice bike but I can’t shake the feeling that you pay at least 30% more just because the frame says „S-Works“.

[@barbamatteo]

TQ push specy.. 50NM is the new light standard.

[@tomordr]

So, which is better new Levo SL or Trek Fuel EXE? you loved the exe.

[@JaimetheNomad]

almost makes me reconsider my new Turbo Levo Expert...almost! maybe if I didn't just get mine 2 weeks ago haha. Looks like they did a pretty great upgrade from the previous gen, well play Spesh! and of course great review/update on this, thanks Rob!!

[@gimmick_8269]

Is the Motor backward compatible to the old sl?

[@Hodler82]

Good riding man😅

[@cliffsangelsphotography]

Nice bike. It's just sad that my Kawasaki KLX 250 is still cheaper than the Levo 😅

[@Shawn-in-da-Canyon]

The KLX 250 is a pile of shit!

[@BikeIntelligencer]

You say “new motor “like it’s a good thing! The problem with new technology, of course is that it’s completely unproven. What about it is new, and what about that? Would make it susceptible to problems? And of course, time and only time can really determine the reliability of something new.

[@alexmalone1642]

U are my favorite youtuber💪🇬🇧💪

[@grahamsmith9788]

Rob: is the max speed assistance cut-off controlled by a wheel circumference setting in Mission Control, like on the Brose Levo, if so does this mean that when you replace your out-of-the-box rear 27.5 with 29, you're then getting assistance beyond the limit (e.g. 25km/h in Europe), and to get it adjusted do you have to take it to the dealer, or is the owner able to switch between 27 & 29 through the TCU?

[@sortemout6]

very good point ... in addition are there different speed limiters for Europe and the USA like for the road bikes? AND is there a work-round if there are 2 different speed versions

[@nigelrandtoul8646]

Great unbiast review, as usual Rob. Hope they upgrade the kenevo sl the same way. But I'll be waiting for the alloy version anyway.

[@CoyoteMTB77]

I think you’re going to wait a while as they have tons of stock of the old one they will want to sell off first 🤦‍♂️

[@tomnutting3836]

@@CoyoteMTB77 the KSL can be found at 30% off at the moment so I’m not sure the new one will be that far away? I agree they have a load of unwanted stock but they’re pushing it out of the door at speed haha

[@Tobias611]

Now I wonder if they kept the mounting system the same? So, if you already had a Levo SL and wanted to only upgrade the motor, could you do it? If so, that'd be awesome forward thinking by Specialized

[@TheFullKanani]

But a terrible business decision 😂

[@Tobias611]

​@Paranoid Android most people that already have a Levo SL probably won't go around and buy this one too. However, many might be enticed to get the new motor for their existing Levo as it offers quite some benefits over the old one. I'd rather say that offering a way to upgrade the motor is also a way of creating a market for that as well, instead of completely missing out on those customers that don't buy a new bike every other year.

[@jquess296]

If that means the new motor would work for the current Kenevo SL too. I’d be interested in buying a new motor

[@Dendogg7]

The new motor is has the same mounting points. They had test riders using the 1.2 motors in their 1.1 bikes. But not sure if the 1.2 motor will be available to purchase separately

[@matthewws84]

This would be great if this was able to happen. I think the main issue currently with ebike is the onward or cross comparability. If you could upgrade the old SL with this new motor, there are a lot of SL bargins to be had as old stock is now being replaced

[@SDLNinerboy]

J'ai commandé le mien en partie grace à cette vidéo... Je reçois Mon Levo SL Expert cette semaine, en montage 29er, c'était ma condition pour passer en E-bike et la solution était dans cette video. Merci, j'ai hate...

[@jongusta]

SL vs Fuel EXe, how do they differ on the trail and overall performance/ride ability?

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

A higher leverage rate with make the shock a bit more sensitive off the top but I do prefer a lower leverage rate as it works way better for any rider over 70kg, looks like an awesome bike!

[@Magoo71]

$13,500 is insane as that seems to reflect the "Pandemic" pricing ....By Fall all these prices will plummet!

[@themuellers5384]

Quite cheap actually compared to last year's top end prices.

[@Magoo71]

@@themuellers5384 Yikes....I've never felt that $13,500 was cheap...it's motorcycle territory...I've been buying custom Mt Bikes since the mid-80's and todays prices are nothing more than Supply/Demand....By this Fall, 5 digit prices will be all but gone.......

[@matthewcurtis4083]

Bought a Rocky Mountain instinct. 3300. Bad mf e-bike. For 1g more I fit with fox float. Done son.

[@Bikepark167]

Have you heard if that is going to go over to the Kenevo SL?

[@34crustydemon]

Great review Rob! can you tell us the rise of the handlebars you built on them?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Cheers! 50mm rise

[@cristianoiria]

I can see that you enjoyed Sintra :D

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Amazing trails!!

[@agutmat]

Do you think that the new motor can be installed in the current SL?

[@girafingo9280]

@rob any idea what the chainstay length is in 29er mode?

[@macfawlty]

These Siskiu TE’s are THE best value in eMTBs by far… and full powered?? I have the Siskiu T8 non-e, which is an awesome bike. I was about to give up consideration of an eMTB with pricing North of $6,500 at the low end all the way up to $12,000… $14,000. Ridiculous. $3,600 and $4,200 is a steal.

[@glassdomedesign]

Do you think you can retrofit the motor to the older turbo Levo sl carbon? I have a 2020 and wonder if I should upgrade or whether I could update my existing bike with the newer motor?

[@antoniolatorre6047]

Rob can you provide feedback of the drag this motor has when pedaling with it in off mode?

[@cherylparrish1179]

The comment above says "ton of new updates on the new 2023 Levo SL - But the caption below video says 2024. I am confused. Thank you.

[@maciejsarnik3251]

It's e-version of specialized Status, with adaptable geometry bonus...

[@leeridesmtb]

How tall are you Rob curious to know if I should size up on the Levo to S5 as I’m currently on the kenevo sl

[@OlivierSoares]

Hi Rob. How did you enjoy our trails here in Portugal 🇵🇹 (cascais and Sintra) ? Are you riding elsewhere in Pprtugal ?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Amazing trails- would love to return!

[@OlivierSoares]

@@RobRidesEMTB do so 👍👍 We’ll be here and show you lot more trails and spots around.

[@MrSwaggernaut83]

Need to know if non-removable battery means not conveniently so, or if it means dead battery dead bike (i.e. not replaceable)...

[@koho]

Yep, tried one today. Tremendous! Damn. Anyone want a good deal on a 2020 SL??

[@finbox1000]

Amazing review as always Rob👌🤘 It would be fantastic if you could do a comparison to the Relay 🙏

[@Neksta]

Rob you make the Best Bike Videos ! Greetings from Germany

[@CarlosAntunesMTB]

So what about the battery, is it the same 320watt/hour? 😮

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Yes 👍

[@lukewalker1051]

Watt-hr bro...not watt/hour. A common mistake. Only so many high discharge cells you can fit in that small downtube to keep weight down. Looks like about that amount of space. I build batteries not constrained by such pathetic capacity. Better bring one or two extra in the Bronco if you take this bike to the trail Only about $2K more or so for couple for 'small battery bottles to continue your ride. ...laughable money grab from Specialized. Reason is the battery is integrated in the downtube so when you use it up you have to charge it and can't swap it out. Hang on batteries bottle store even less power.

[@steelgtr]

Louder than full power Levo?

[@Korea-Heaven]

Nice reviews, i always enjoy your videos, Thanks. Good bike, but another thanks-pandemic-hyper-over-priced bike

[@hans-jrgenengen195]

have you had the opportunity to test Sworks SL LTD?

[@cherylparrish1179]

Are the 2024 Gen 2s out now in Sept of 2023?

[@stuartfleming6031]

Will the motor work in my old 2022 turbo levo sl?

[@StefanMikulski]

Just a little correction: the SL 1.1 motor is 240 W not 250 W.

[@brunoladeiro3808]

Sintra, Portugal...nice place 😉

[@nizer100]

Is the battery replaceable when it dies?

[@Sherman1862]

Awesome Video, I'm ready to 'upgrade" from my 2004 Specialized Epic comp, first one to have "The brain" shock if you're old enough to remember that! lol, anyway was wondering if Specialized has updated the standard "Levo" like they have the SL? Wondering which one I might want to purchase? That new SL looks pretty sweet I must say. Anyway, thank you for your time and your opinions on he matter!!! : )

[@Burbs1976]

Hey Rob. Do you ever think there will be self charging e bikes? Like pedal power charging?

[@peterk5578]

Now, One year a go. How is it with the only 320 Wh? Did you Miss More Motor power on Climbing?

[@jamesharmer4253]

How does 50nm on an 18kg ebike feel compared to 80nm on a full fat 26kg ebike? Really not sure what route to go down for my first ebike.

[@MTB_ADVENTURE]

ok, I'm getting one !!!

[@border304]

Perhaps the older models will be cheaper for us normal people who can't justify car money for a bicycle.

[@ivansalesrolimfilho9730]

I ve just bougth one. Its incredible funny.

[@vidibites]

How does it compare to the Orbea Rise 2023? I’ve been comparing the Turbo Levo SL Comp Carbon & Orbea Rise M20 with 540wha battery upgrade. They come in at the same price. On paper the Orbea looks a better spec, however Specialized has 10mm+ longer travel back and front. What’s the real world comparison?

[@fruttidel]

Price tag as always so specialized. If do consider lifetime warranty and day to day service, the price seems to be more reasonable. Now is it worth extra bucks for that or go with the focus jam2 sl ?