En Vogue were only making $0.02 an album while Producers made Millions!

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@deanivan3951
@deanivan3951 4 жыл бұрын
These labels were some low down crooks!
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 4 жыл бұрын
I'm hearing the same story from all the artists I interview 😥
@susanmajek
@susanmajek 4 жыл бұрын
@@HalftimeChat Exactly!
@REDD_BLITZ
@REDD_BLITZ 4 жыл бұрын
Were?? They still are.
@chooselove4307
@chooselove4307 4 жыл бұрын
I am so glad to hear Dawn finally speak out and defend herself after years of people saying she broke this group up. I remember back in 2013 when Maxine said Terry ruined En Vogue by sleeping with Denzil Foster and Cindy ruined the group by never speaking up and always defending Terry. These managers and record companies were screwing these artists out of big money back in the 90's. These women in the industry need to stop sleeping with the producers and managers, Chilli was sleeping with Dallas Austin and supposedly LA Reid and TLC got screwed out of money by his wife Pebbles. Now we find out Terry was sleeping with one of the men that founded the group and produced their music and he screwed them out of money. Denzil Foster used Terry because he knew if he told her what she wanted to hear he could get her to do anything he wanted, and that's how they were able to screw them out of millions of dollars because he got Terry to do whatever he said. She is the reason why they lost out on two record deals and why they got dropped by the record company after the EV3 album was released, because the record companies didn't want En Vogue without Dawn Robinson they considered her the face and voice of that group. A complete travesty what happened to probably the Best Female Group ever.
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 4 жыл бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@susanmajek
@susanmajek 4 жыл бұрын
"These women in the industry need to stop sleeping with the producers and managers." Unfortunately, that's how most get or keep their careers...
@thecoach11
@thecoach11 4 жыл бұрын
@@susanmajek All truth
@maxday1000
@maxday1000 3 жыл бұрын
CHILLI and LA Reid was false. Someone that that used to work for laface records and found out pebbles was jealous of chilli so she came up with a lie and said she was sleeping with LA Reid. That person also said that there were checks signed in pebbles name without the girls even knowing it. Also it was stated that TLC was signed to deals that they never signed off on. The signing was going through pebbles. Meaning that she was foraging these Ladies signatures on forms. These women was given upfront money but pebbles took the money and never told them that money was involved in signing a deasl. I believe TLC had two commercial deals at that time that that pebbles kept from them. There were a few other deals. There were also deals that they did sign but never fell through because of Perri and her team. Before we talk about sleeping with the producer and manager let's talk about how pebbles allegedly got a son by R&B singer El DeBarge. I am Facebook friends with this young man and have been friends with him since 2013 after the TLC movie came out that's when he spoke out. He was working on a tell all book. Almost 2 years later he announced on Facebook that the book was finished and he's looking for the right publishing and book company to publish the book but he never spoke more about that situation. Also from that close source when Perri son was born it was told that LA Reid wanted to give this boy to t-boz to take care of but T-Boz was too busy. Perri allegedly didn't want her own son. The Son went to live with the DeBarge family It's a lot that t-boz and chili kept out of the TLC movie they kept it clean they have stories that will put some of your artist to shame because of what they did to these ladies and how they treated them even some of your management and producers and songwriting teams
@lisabonae
@lisabonae 3 жыл бұрын
False. They did not get dropped after EV3. They were still signed to Elektra when Masterpiece Theater came out. They were dropped after that album was released due to low record sales. Had nothing to do with Dawns absence.
@niqulusviii987
@niqulusviii987 4 жыл бұрын
Dawn made a hard but necessary move
@stacyr4768
@stacyr4768 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how Terry feel cause she and the producer broke up. They had no kids or marriage therefore not entitled to any of his money
@niqulusviii987
@niqulusviii987 4 жыл бұрын
@@stacyr4768 the whole situation sucks, sylvia did the divide and conquer so well!
@rissaceehart4076
@rissaceehart4076 4 жыл бұрын
@@stacyr4768 Which producer was Terry dating? Foster or McElroy?
@geester
@geester 4 жыл бұрын
@@rissaceehart4076 denzel
@calisongbird
@calisongbird 2 жыл бұрын
@@geester *Denzil
@blackestknight1.0
@blackestknight1.0 4 жыл бұрын
Really love this Sister. She has a very warm spirit. Beautiful in and out!
@LADYDAEE
@LADYDAEE 4 жыл бұрын
She has always seemed mean.
@iamv482
@iamv482 4 жыл бұрын
@@LADYDAEE Not as mean that they ripped off the group. 2 Penney's per girl now that is mean and stealing from the group. All of the members should be living in mansions from their talents alone. Dawn you are a brand by yourself, just go do Dawn night or day because you know the way through your gifted Talent 👑💃🏿.
@stacyr4768
@stacyr4768 4 жыл бұрын
@@LADYDAEE she is weird
@TheBbtlegit
@TheBbtlegit 4 жыл бұрын
The music business is cut throat.
@CBrown9758
@CBrown9758 4 жыл бұрын
That is why Prince wrote SLAVE on the face and he tried to educate Pink on those types of contracts of which he spoke about on Larry King’s show.
@thespadestable
@thespadestable 3 жыл бұрын
@Cynthia Brown - But this was the same person who turned around and "slaved" his bandmates from the Revolution and onward.
@CBrown9758
@CBrown9758 3 жыл бұрын
@@thespadestable you should've made an appointment with him on that while alive but the bandmates u speak of are still able to give that interview.😉
@thespadestable
@thespadestable 3 жыл бұрын
​@@CBrown9758 - Prince screwed Mark Brown out of his writing credits for the song, Kiss. Prince tried to make it up by keeping him on his payroll after Mark left, but the damage had already been done. There was always pay issues with him and the members of The Revolution. Dr. Fink had to sign himself to an outside project which could not allow him to tour or record after the Sign of the Times albums, and members of The Time have admitted Prince screwed them out of money. I can understand Prince's frustration with Warner Bros, but while he's cried of being screwed over, he's done the same to people who have worked him him, not to exclude the lawsuit brought by Levi Seacer, Jr and Tony Mosley. Dying without a will or some type of financial directive screwed everyone he owed money to for goods and services got screwed also, because they provided on the belief that they would get paid.
@riverhigh4092
@riverhigh4092 5 ай бұрын
$ 0.02 Cent is like Daylight robbery ....
@terrencetolbert697
@terrencetolbert697 3 жыл бұрын
Dawn was always my favorite member of En Vogue. They were the most talented female group of the 90’s. It’s a shame they didn’t have more success. I can’t warm up to this current version of En Vogue because Dawn and Maxine aren’t there.
@Tony-de2qg
@Tony-de2qg 2 жыл бұрын
They were vary successful they got jerked for they bread and weren't able to Renegotiate after the first album
@virgovixen22
@virgovixen22 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly they are missed!!
@stonedog23
@stonedog23 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Knowles didn’t let the record companies screw over his group, yet he screwed over Latavia and Letoya.
@Haitidon
@Haitidon 3 жыл бұрын
Was it money for those girls or the more shine at lead ?
@Understanditokay
@Understanditokay 3 жыл бұрын
I saw somewhere the Daddy wasn’t right in a lot of ways👀👀👀👀
@galvanizingtechniques1111
@galvanizingtechniques1111 3 жыл бұрын
Dawn is Still Beautiful!!!.
@mrcori2649
@mrcori2649 2 жыл бұрын
En Vogue should've been bigger than the Supremes with those voices, fashion, dance moves, and class. This is very sad.
@madamenoire6830
@madamenoire6830 4 жыл бұрын
What are you supposed to do here: write your own songs, own your own publishing, produce yourself, pay for your own studio sessions, pay for your own wardrobe for shows, transportation to venues and book your own shows, events, etc. When someone else is doing that for you it’s hard to keep track. Read the contract before you sign. Singers are a dime a dozen. The recording company has to pay for all of that I listed and it comes out of the profits from record sales, shows and events. Unless singers are going to all of that themselves. The record company, manager, accountants and venues get paid first. This should be no surprise. Michael Jackson started making his most money when he started writing and owning his own as well as other artists publishing. Artists need to know the business and not rely on others to make decisions or sign checks.
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 4 жыл бұрын
But remember, Prince mentioned that he started doing all this himself and yet Warner Bros Music wanted a bigger share of his work. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHfIfYSaqqeqgqM
@darlingtonobi3324
@darlingtonobi3324 4 жыл бұрын
Any more advice
@oholm09
@oholm09 4 жыл бұрын
Going independent
@thespadestable
@thespadestable 3 жыл бұрын
​@@HalftimeChat - It was the other way around. Prince wanted a bigger share from his albums, but it's always been artists recoup their money by being on the road. Prince's problem was his creativity and his refusal to adjust to how the system worked was his biggest enemy. You create the album, the record company get's their share of the revenue, anything billable you created they collect, you as an artist hit the road and retain what's left after those expenses are cleared. You repeat the cycle until you can't repeat any longer. Prince had hired the best accountant managers in Minneapolis to assist him, but he kept firing them because they were not afraid to tell him he could not finance his vision, which resulted in him hiring Yes People, who at the end did him no good.
@garyprater8139
@garyprater8139 3 жыл бұрын
I been around recording artist and I am also a song writer and producer so I know a few things. And one of them is GREED. Yes the label and producers etc should get theirs first BUT not take all of it. What makes true success is INTEGRITY. And just for the fact you are defending this type of behavior shows something about you. A good record label will look after their artist and show them why such fee's come out and by giving them the understanding and a fair price for their trust will go a long way. No one likes to be deceived. No even the swindlers themselves.
@susanmajek
@susanmajek 4 жыл бұрын
They must have been naive thinking one of them sleeping with the boss wasn't going to affect them. Terry thought she was going to marry the guy and be a solo star & she tried, but neither happened because God had other plans...
@stacyr4768
@stacyr4768 4 жыл бұрын
Sleeping with him could of helped the group but Terry didn’t play her cards right with her verbally abusive lover .
@Troikaone
@Troikaone 4 жыл бұрын
What God? The God of the Bible? The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? I don’t think so.
@rissaceehart4076
@rissaceehart4076 4 жыл бұрын
@@Troikaone RIIIIGHT?? #NOTMYGODAlmighty
@rissaceehart4076
@rissaceehart4076 4 жыл бұрын
SOOOO TERRY pulled A DIANA FOSS Move EXCEPT Denny wasn't BERRY G. & Catered to her#DUMBELLINA!!!🙈🙈🙈SMHSMH
@stacyr4768
@stacyr4768 4 жыл бұрын
@@rissaceehart4076 he turned around and married someone else , so she left the situation broke . I wonder if she regrets being so loyal to a man that wasn’t loyal to her.
@mc365mc
@mc365mc 4 жыл бұрын
The Girls / Women in Envouge were used as instruments not artist. They played the music written and produced. The artist were the producers.
@susanmajek
@susanmajek 4 жыл бұрын
They are still recording artists, which also has it's revenue streams. They just got a bad deal, which is normal for beginners, but they just couldn't reorganize themselves to get a better one later, which is the norm....
@mc365mc
@mc365mc 4 жыл бұрын
@@susanmajek Yes recording Artist do have a revenue stream it's called "live shows", their problem besides their contract was they split the group up, so that killed the tour money. Anyone booking them is going to low ball them because it's not the full original group. Not saying they didn't have a terrible contract but they did sign the type of deal that alot of band members sign. Look at Morris Day of the Time, he only performs the songs Prince wrote, produced, and published on Paisley Park records he has nothing. They never insisted to write some material for the Albums to get some credits and publishing. The never insisted on self / executive producing material. When some members woke up the fought among themselves instead of unifying. They could have renegotiated but they couldn't deal with each other to get on on page. And not to be harsh but no one member was equal to or greater than their group.
@oholm09
@oholm09 4 жыл бұрын
@@susanmajek it's all 360 contract deals a&r and record executives
@Supermomlife
@Supermomlife Жыл бұрын
They still should not have been robbed
@mc365mc
@mc365mc Жыл бұрын
@Supermomlife They weren't Robbed. They don't own any of the material they recorded cause they didn't write, compose, arrange, or produce it. They are no different than the guy that played bass guitar on the album.
@kisha4040
@kisha4040 4 жыл бұрын
Destiny's Child didnot make 50 million a piece because Letoya Luckett said she became homeless after leaving the group.
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 4 жыл бұрын
I believe she was referring to when Michelle joined and it was 3. Michelle doesn't need to work anymore while the first 2 were on bad deals
@kisha4040
@kisha4040 4 жыл бұрын
Oh. I see. Thanks.
@jmin8400
@jmin8400 3 жыл бұрын
No, they received a 6 figure settlement EACH at the end of 2000 and further more out of court in 2002, when Survivor violated the terms. Survivor was written before the first judgment and during the first lawsuit between February 2000 and December 2000. LL and LR were not broke after they got paid in 2000.
@tonyoliver5537
@tonyoliver5537 2 жыл бұрын
En Vogue were in a 'slave contract' like TLC, NWA, New Edition, Hi-Five, H-town, Tony, Tone, Toni, Destiny's Child giving most of there life time royalties and publishing to the publishing are record company the first thing they should have done is to get an LLC and own the trademark are ownership of their name En Vogue that way no one can come in and fire group members without the others knowing about it.
@treytrey637
@treytrey637 3 жыл бұрын
Industry rule # 4080. Record company people are SHADYYYYYY!!!!!!!
@faafafineartist
@faafafineartist 4 жыл бұрын
Destiny's Child owe En Vogue credit. Mathew knew - find Envogues terrible deal - that the new and improved En Vogue (DC) was not going to be ripped off like that. EVERYTHING was modelled off of EV. DC even hired EV staff.
@thespadestable
@thespadestable 3 жыл бұрын
Matthew signed a jacked up deal also, but had the right partner with him who gave him advice, and they never let up. In all actuality Matthew was all about Beyoncé, all the other girls were passengers on Knowles' train.
@dashhill443
@dashhill443 3 жыл бұрын
Destiny's Child lucked out because Elektra dropped them and Columbia (the better label) scooped them up and took care of them. Elektra is a somewhat trash label so DC is lucky they abandoned them..
@thespadestable
@thespadestable 3 жыл бұрын
​@@dashhill443 - It has nothing to do with your label. It has more to do about being in the business long enough to where you can regain the money you lost. Artist don't really start making money until their 3rd album, and that's when most get dropped or under promoted. It's not until your 3rd large tour, artist learn why to better negotiate their tour promotion with the intent of earning more by spending less. Dawn's version of the story is the members wanted someone else to do the heavy lifting while they just sung and collected a check. It's clear the group did not have a clear cut leader, with all the members seeing their run as an opportunity, but nothing more than that. It happens, it is what it is, but it's a well repeated story that most others do not learn from, but are quick to issue a "don't do what I did" statement.
@shalaw1206
@shalaw1206 4 жыл бұрын
Love En Vogue... to Bad Terry was phucking the help.... Its a damn shame they didn't make the money they deserved. Glad Dawn is shedding light to such a disgrace. Great interviews.
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 4 жыл бұрын
The help 😂 You're right, the same friction between Chilli and Left Eye over her relationship with Dallas Austin and him wanting more money to produce their 2nd album. Really appreciate the feedback and thanks for watching 🙏🏾
@rissaceehart4076
@rissaceehart4076 4 жыл бұрын
DENNY saw that she was the "WEAK &Gullible"One that's why he was "Fond" of her Southern Belle persona..he saw she was an easy target to take Advantage of.
@markp.6639
@markp.6639 3 жыл бұрын
Right i often wonder did Terry get paid under the table?
@phillip1516
@phillip1516 3 жыл бұрын
And was very outspoken
@purposedriven2006
@purposedriven2006 2 жыл бұрын
The .02 cents per record hurts my psychi as En Vogue were such influences back in the day that such a deal seems next to impossible. Then to couple that with the types of prime time media events and coverage on the hottest video platforms it's just shocking to hear the real story. Seems like making a decision for fame you have to really read into the contracts and put your emotions to the side. I mean if I had the talent that En Vogue had I would of been excited to launch such a career and wouldn't of thought that the people managing me or associating with me would be so deceptive.
@Supermomlife
@Supermomlife Жыл бұрын
Just despicable!
@PharaohLawLess1
@PharaohLawLess1 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to meet Dawn....she seems so real and cool and I would love to talk about the past and the music business
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 3 жыл бұрын
If you connect with her on IG, it might be possible
@renamorris9308
@renamorris9308 4 жыл бұрын
Good evening everyone.
@phillip1516
@phillip1516 3 жыл бұрын
She's still gorgeous
@mexia23
@mexia23 4 жыл бұрын
Need the full interview
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 4 жыл бұрын
I'll soon upload the 2hr Interview after editing. I don't Interview live which makes it easier for the guests to relax and ask for stuff to be removed
@darrenanthony8473
@darrenanthony8473 4 жыл бұрын
Berry Gordy once said " you don't sign the contract if you're not getting paid" Whatever that means?
@Supermomlife
@Supermomlife Жыл бұрын
Should be a crime! Robbing artists like that! Making them worker mules
@LarryOnKeys
@LarryOnKeys 3 жыл бұрын
I still have "a crush on Dawn from En Vogue" 😍😘
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 3 жыл бұрын
😁
@terrencetolbert697
@terrencetolbert697 2 жыл бұрын
She’s sexy and intelligent, 2 qualities I love.
@thecoach11
@thecoach11 4 жыл бұрын
3x platinum at 2 cents is 60 grand before taxes that’s highway robbery sheesh everything that glitters for sure isn’t Gold or Platinum pun intended 🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 4 жыл бұрын
That's why she's so angry.
@Rory-ct1zu
@Rory-ct1zu 3 жыл бұрын
Was anyone looking out for them?
@thatguyfrom313
@thatguyfrom313 2 жыл бұрын
that's terrible. May as well work a job.
@gottech5601
@gottech5601 3 жыл бұрын
That's why artist are artist and businessmen are businessmen artist need to understand they have to know the business if they trying get paid
@xavierreivax9932
@xavierreivax9932 4 жыл бұрын
i know a guy from my city who's in a well known worldwide band i once saw him on soul train and riding a bike down the street in the same day
@dashhill443
@dashhill443 3 жыл бұрын
Who? And this must have been a long time ago because Soul Train has been off the air since 2006 I believe...
@sandralind5097
@sandralind5097 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you think Terry was not down with renegotiating? She is dating the producer so what he has is hers too, so that made her comfortable…in my opinion! But you can’t mix business with pleasure…she was young & I don’t think she knew any better.
@s.p.5213
@s.p.5213 4 жыл бұрын
AT THIS POINT, NOOOOO GROUO SHOULD BE EXPERIENCIN THIS BOOOLSHIT!!! WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT IT SINCE MOTOWN...... THE NET GROUP WITH THIS STORY NEEDS TO HAVE SEVERAL SEATS CUZ BEING GIVEN A BAD CONTRACT SHOULD BE EXPECTED BY NOW. ARTISTS SHOULD KNOW TO HAVE AT LEAST 2 INDEPENDENT ATTORNEYS REVIEW THESE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CONTRACTS, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE 2ND ALBUM WHEN THEIR PAY SHOULD BE HIGHER.....
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the attorneys are in on the act. They can't go against the record labels or they get blocked from doing business with any other artists.
@s.p.5213
@s.p.5213 4 жыл бұрын
@@HalftimeChat Yep, I know and agree, which is why I intentionally used the term "INDEPENDENT attorneys" to review the contract. Not every single lawyer will make a behind the scenes deal or operate unethically. When said attorneys point out the flaws in the contract, it will validate why their fee is so high and their reputation so credible in their field.
@primary3093
@primary3093 3 жыл бұрын
You would think but artist just want to perform and not think about boring paper work which is the most important part of the business.
@garyprater8139
@garyprater8139 3 жыл бұрын
Yep... This makes me think back when I tried to work with a production team and record label who tried to use me for my talent and thought they could screw me over but they didn't know that I walked in with my radar on! I didn't get a record deal but I still can sit back and listen to my music without grieving over someone owning my copyrights and publishing. PS... You should have seen the look on their faces when I returned the contract unsigned! GREEDY swindlers!
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 3 жыл бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@garyprater8139
@garyprater8139 3 жыл бұрын
@@HalftimeChat In a Elvis Presley voice... Thank you... Thank you very much 😊
@Thetruthlover
@Thetruthlover 6 ай бұрын
Yo great content!!! Would love if you interviewed foster and McElroy and ask them about the deal they had with Tony toni tone and did they think of the group of 3 or 6 members etc? It’s so confusing!!! Lol
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 6 ай бұрын
Trying to get them
@cubedmack
@cubedmack 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think all of Destiny Child's members made money like Beyoncé did while in the group. Kelly Rowland and Michelle Williams ain't living large.
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 4 жыл бұрын
Good point, but they got way more than the average RnB Artist
@rissaceehart4076
@rissaceehart4076 4 жыл бұрын
Sure AREN'T..NOR DID they SELL their Soul for the FAME Either!!!#FACTUALS!!!..Maybe it's just me,but Beyonce looks so MISERABLE, She smiles ,but it don't seem genuine like she's ESTATICALLY Happy !!
@jmin8400
@jmin8400 3 жыл бұрын
Kelly became a millionaire from Writings on the Wall within a few months by end of 1999. She and Beyonce weirdly both benefitted financially, while the other two didn't. The Survivor record paid out very well though.
@FifthKnowledge
@FifthKnowledge 10 ай бұрын
Yep, infamous boxing promoter Don King said, "You don't get the contract you deserve, you get the contract you negotiate." I'm so sorry these fine ladies got ripped off. I still love their music and respect the singers.
@Wondertroy1TV
@Wondertroy1TV 3 жыл бұрын
Destiny’s Child was signed to Grass Roots productions D’Wayne Wiggins (Tony Toni Tone).. vis Columbia records.. I don’t know about a great point structure maybe later down the line.. in the beginning DC was trying to survive
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it happened after the two original members were replaced 🤔
@Wondertroy1TV
@Wondertroy1TV 3 жыл бұрын
When they were replaced the second cd was on the brink of blowing up!
@jmin8400
@jmin8400 3 жыл бұрын
@@HalftimeChat Kelly claimed to have been made a millionaire by age 18. She turned 18 during album, so yes. Yet for the others...
@stacyr4768
@stacyr4768 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmin8400 Keep in mind DC did other things outside of music plus Kelly was featured on other artists songs . Therefore her money wasn’t solely due to music like Envogue.
@jmin8400
@jmin8400 2 жыл бұрын
@@stacyr4768Your response glosses over what I mentioned and dismisses what I stated via the wrong context. Up until February 2000, when Kelly Rowland turned 19, there were still no ventures which would allow her to become a millionaire and not her band members. She wasn't a solo artist nor featured, until well after that lineup changed. Her comment about being a millionaire by the age of 18 and Beyonce getting a Jaguar before her 17th birthday, says more a lot about the hidden truth. Studying the Knowles purchase records from 1997-2000 in Harris County, I figured out the truth. Music World Entertainment headed by Mathew was the main culprit. Kelly was not working with other artists in 1999 or 2000, to be that rich. Royalties from publishing and touring on that second album in 1999, is what was her main income. What she earned, should've been equally distributed. It wasn't and the former members filed suit. They were not getting due royalty payments nor a fair share of touring profits. MWE was also compensating members unequally.
@roland.chestnut167
@roland.chestnut167 3 жыл бұрын
DAWN YOU AND YOUR 3 SISTERS LOOK'S LIKE YAULL ARE ABOUT 16 YEARS OLD BUT I KNOW YOU GIRLS LOVE EACH OTHER VERY MUCH
@Supermomlife
@Supermomlife Жыл бұрын
I admire Dawn ❤ so sorry she was robbed!
@musiclover-cn7tb
@musiclover-cn7tb 3 жыл бұрын
Dru hill had a 1 penny per album deal to divide by all of the members that should have been illegal as well 😳 .
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 3 жыл бұрын
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@richardbritt5780
@richardbritt5780 Жыл бұрын
😢
@maxday1000
@maxday1000 3 жыл бұрын
If a artist sells 5 million records that equals out to $50 million dollars. If a artist sells 10 million records that equals out to $100 million dollars. It's not making sense that these people going around and treating artists like s*** It's enough money there for everybody but m************ is too m************ greedy. They want their cut but turn around and take the artist cut they have of the artist money it's not making sense
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. Imagine getting only $0.02 per album sale while the rest share $9.92. En Vogue got $0.08 😳😳😳
@maxday1000
@maxday1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@HalftimeChat that is so crazy, they first album has sold five to six million records worldwide where did $50 million dollars go. Their record company and their managers and producers have a lot of explaining to do. This man bought his house for $8 million but first he said 20 million. I believe he took 20 million dollars and bought his house for $8 million dollars out of that and it left him with $12 million wow. Ain't that a b****.
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 3 жыл бұрын
It started with Dawn Robinson then everyone else who I interviewed told me the same stories and I was shocked. Greed. On the back of human beings. Music slavery. Now for the first time I understand what Prince was saying. 😥😥😥
@Chrishawn
@Chrishawn 3 жыл бұрын
*A+ brother, A+! i knew they had to be multimillionaire, this is insanity!*
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 3 жыл бұрын
😥
@Chrishawn
@Chrishawn 3 жыл бұрын
@@HalftimeChat *when i think envouge member, I would always associate them with marrying a nfl, NBA, or European Soccer star (David beckham, Lionel messi, Nomar) being short of money would ever come into the mind when one factors in their universal stardom talent & beauty. that entertainment field is a dirty game*
@kisha4040
@kisha4040 4 жыл бұрын
They had to go on welfare. Such a shame.
@JoyceThompson-di3vn
@JoyceThompson-di3vn Жыл бұрын
I don't blame dawn for leaving them
@kel-melprevail8127
@kel-melprevail8127 Жыл бұрын
Enough signed a Production deal and got ..got .sad
@JoyceThompson-di3vn
@JoyceThompson-di3vn Жыл бұрын
Envouge said that they will try to work it out
@morganmalone9535
@morganmalone9535 4 жыл бұрын
Horrible! I just seen a video with Cindy, Terry, & the new member. . They were interviewing the producers...
@stacyr4768
@stacyr4768 4 жыл бұрын
Let me guess Terry and Denny did not mention dating each other ?
@morganmalone9535
@morganmalone9535 4 жыл бұрын
@@stacyr4768 I don't think so..
@rissaceehart4076
@rissaceehart4076 4 жыл бұрын
@@stacyr4768 OH COURSE NOT..Thats like the GUILTY admitting to the Crime..CMON NAH!!!💁💁💁
@stacyr4768
@stacyr4768 4 жыл бұрын
@@rissaceehart4076 it was rhetorical question
@bobjohnson7441
@bobjohnson7441 4 жыл бұрын
It's not called the Music BUSINESS for nothing. Can't live with a contract, guess what, don't sign it.
@Cat-sx6ep
@Cat-sx6ep 4 жыл бұрын
Before someone say I am male bashing how and why would certain men take from women who are helping you stay rich whether finance spiritual emotional support I dont get it ????
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 4 жыл бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@StopDaPress
@StopDaPress 4 жыл бұрын
I feel we're one of the most innovative race but also the leading race that feel we have to step on one another to get ahead! I wouldn't say you're male bashing, but I'll say those type will take from anyone not just women. I'll say many are flashy to the point of "look what I have and you can't afford" or "crabs in a bucket" mentality. Their agent could have played a part of generational wealth for this group, but instead choose greed for him and his business partner. It's like a love/hate relationship within ourselves.
@Cat-sx6ep
@Cat-sx6ep 4 жыл бұрын
@@StopDaPress appreciate your comment. i am not rich speaking from experience i had a man steal from me and i am a single parent i was nothing but nice to him. I just dont get it especially as a black woman and he is a black man...just sad have a bless day.
@rissaceehart4076
@rissaceehart4076 4 жыл бұрын
@@StopDaPress ANNND IF YOU NOTICE..You don't hear of too Many Artist TODAY, Who are event Working with Tommy&Denny anymore.👀💁
@StopDaPress
@StopDaPress 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cat-sx6ep Advice my dad told me as a teenager when I was done wrong by someone I thought was a friend and has stuck with me since. "Just because you're good to someone doesn't mean they'll be good to you!" I don't know anyone who hasn't experienced that. Sad but I go into every encounter with anyone with that in mind.
@leiutley4083
@leiutley4083 4 жыл бұрын
Sad that artists get used when they are the money makers greed from company producers....
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 4 жыл бұрын
it has been sad hearing all my guests with the same story from the 90s
@tyralikadiamondstar8960
@tyralikadiamondstar8960 4 жыл бұрын
So what happen to the producers that wrote en vogue music at?
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 4 жыл бұрын
They are still around, but like anything else they have a contract which gives you them most of the money from the albums.
@ChampLeads
@ChampLeads 4 жыл бұрын
If the interviewer finds a presentable polish in dialogue. He is so mislead - thankfully Dawn had patience. Dawn gorgeous and gifted - reach to the moons.
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 4 жыл бұрын
I welcome all forms of feedback to improve for the next guest 👍🏾
@ChampLeads
@ChampLeads 4 жыл бұрын
All respect and support.
@melvinjacobs7316
@melvinjacobs7316 3 жыл бұрын
That shit is criminal. The record company should be boiled in hot oil.
@musiclover-cn7tb
@musiclover-cn7tb 3 жыл бұрын
Noooo Destiny's Child was fighting over money it couldn't have been great two members said they were broke and 1 was homeless.
@faafafineartist
@faafafineartist 4 жыл бұрын
typical saggi having the courage to voice the bullshit in the room and getting crucified after the fact. decades later (when everyone wakes tf up) say, 'omg you were so right!!!'...umm but its too late. It's all over.
@LONDONHARRISMUSIC
@LONDONHARRISMUSIC Жыл бұрын
Here is the real problem, when you have producers that are the writers and production company they will make all the money from the producers view point we can get anybody to sing these songs, so why should we pay you anything. As an artist if you don’t write and produce your music your at the mercy of the producers. And black labels and producers don’t pay their Artist.
@musiclover-cn7tb
@musiclover-cn7tb 3 жыл бұрын
2 cents that's b.s they should have had a better contract.
@JoyceThompson-di3vn
@JoyceThompson-di3vn Жыл бұрын
Because it didn't work out for them Envouge
@paulwigs2892
@paulwigs2892 3 жыл бұрын
🙂
@JoyceThompson-di3vn
@JoyceThompson-di3vn Жыл бұрын
Envougeisnothappy
@NathanBrooken
@NathanBrooken 3 жыл бұрын
Sad sad sad
@HalftimeChat
@HalftimeChat 3 жыл бұрын
2 cents. They don't do this to the pop, country and rock acts. They sell less but make more money
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