Encanto Theory: Did Abuela Approve Of Félix & Augustín?

[@Lucas-yy5qe]

Felix is naturally the kind of person who's good mood can't be shaken despite terrible weather. Pepa says they were married in a hurricane, and he still describes it as a joyous day with a smile

[@Vekcrazah]

not to mention he brushed off the fact that it was a hurricane. Just said that the wedding was nice and continued with the song.

[@rovanajean9550]

The thing is, in Colombian culture, marrying in a rainy day signs misfortune to the marriage. So Pepa tried hard to be smiley all day and Bruno basically tipped it off xD they're so happy together now, calling her "mi vida" xD

[@rookhousestudios3686]

Does not apply but that does remind me of the line where Pepa said that it was HER wedding day while Felix says it was OUR wedding day one it show that everything is for their family and two it shows wedding culture where the bride has a habit of thinking it is about them

[@EtamirTheDemiDeer]

I love Felix so much. His little “yes >:(“ when Pepa said “I’m doing my best! You’re lucky it’s not a hurricane” warms my heart

[@triggerredstudios6349]

@@EtamirTheDemiDeer Honestly it was! Felix is my favorite, he's so cute and I love how excited he gets despite trying to be serious talking about the wedding. He really loves his wife and family and it's wonderful

[@rosieg6989]

I don't think Abuela cared much about who her children were marrying, just that they were indeed getting married so they could continue the line. But here is the thing, I don't even think she cared as much about preserving the family line 10 years ago as she does in present day as we have no evidence that she pressured Bruno to marry, she seemed fine to let one of her only 3 children not have kids. I think it was after Bruno left and Mirabel was giftless that she realized that her legacy could die out and hence way she was trying to pressure her first born grandchild to wed and have babies as soon as possible. Even so though she never forced Isabela to marry Mariano, she just encouraged it and Isabela went along.

[@GadereneLegion]

I’m not sure she would have wanted Bruno to get married. She didn’t want more of him. In a way, she was probably glad when he disappeared. Anyway, I think her love for the magic and gifts overwhelmed her love for the family. That’s what changed. Mirabel and Bruno were mistakes not to be repeated. She wanted to choose an ideal mate for perfect Isabella to get the most ideal babies possible. Five babies (if the groom had his way) who could keep the Encanto safe and take up the slack for any kids with less desirable gifts. She wanted to keep the family safe, but it’s like she forgot she wanted to keep them safe because she loved them.

[@marcusianaviation9372]

Yea I agree.. because when you hear Abuela's singing lines in The Family Madrigal, it's basically all about every new generation keeping the miracle burning 😂

[@autismman6360]

@@marcusianaviation9372 kinda eludes to the fact that Abuela sorta cared more for the miracle being preserved than the family

[@erikas.6790]

I think abuela would have seen Bruno married, but is kinda difficult to date in a city where just saying your name is considered a bad omen 🤷‍♀️

[@capysarah]

@@GadereneLegion "I was so afraid to lose it that I forgot who our miracle was for."

[@aromaticchicken518]

something others have pointed out is that despite being accident prone, if you watch carefully during the movie Augustin never actively asks Julieta to heal him the way the villagers line up. He doesn't even complain about the injuries -- Julieta has to actively notice herself and give him the food. For Julieta, it must've been nice to have someone she could help but who wasn't demanding it of her.

[@Vipre-]

At that point they'd been married for twenty plus years, he'd have no need to ask he'd know she'd toss him something eventually.

[@testerwulf3357]

@@Vipre- Or maybe she was drawn to him because he's never demanded help from her like the others in town? Maybe he'd always tried to brush off his injuries to not bother her as she's busy with a lot of others and she actively had to reach out and heal him without him asking (which could of brought them closer as they deeply cared for each other). If he was like the rest of town he'd still be lining up to whine about booboos and get free health food for them, but he never bothers..he'll accept the food but he never goes out of his way to ask her for it. The others in town should of gotten used to her healing them on sight like he had yet they haven't which makes me feel like he was just never the type to bother asking her for help (maybe he likes to deal with his own problems, or was shy about asking, who knows).

[@lillylavender6876]

U make much sense. Much wow.

[@ElizaHamilton1780]

True. Although the mental picture of these two growing up and Augustin showing up in her food line for healing almost every day would be cute, I think. I can imagine a younger Julieta making a face at him and being like: “You end up in this line a lot. Why is that?” Augustin: There were bees EVERYWHERE. And every day, or almost every day, Julieta would see the end result of Augustin getting into some mad adventure doing normal tasks like chopping firewood or going downstairs for a glass of milk. It was never because he got into a fight or something violent, though. I bet that in most cases, he was trying to be helpful, just like in the movie, and that made her warm up to him over time. I think there’s something endearing about him trying and failing and getting up to try again that would’ve won her over.

[@Zodia195]

@@testerwulf3357 Being accident prone myself, I know I never really "look for someone to help" either. You simply get use to taking care of yourself. It does genuinely surprise to this day when someone notices I am hurt and tries to help.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

Abuela with Felix: What a nice young man. Abuela with Augustin: He keeps getting hurt. This boy isn't going to last to give me grandchildren. And what's with the suit? We live in the mountains!

[@hi-ms1es]

And Felix calms down pepa so that's an addition to why she would've liked him even more

[@somebodythatyouneverknew5806]

Yeah like the most accident prone is the one with the fanciest suit? I’m just confused but he rocked that suit so ok

[@nantae1047]

That suit was to add male colombian fashion from around 1950 ^^ For all I know originally all the men in the movie were wearing suits, fully focused on the 1950, then they decided it would be set in the 2000 and be a mix of different colombian eras

[@sairajmenon556]

@@nantae1047 Hold on just a moment, but it's been practically confirmed that Encanto takes place in 1950... Aside from the setting and technology(and Bruno's telenovela visions aside), the Art of Encanto tells us that Abuelo Pedro died in 1900...

[@juicyfruit8640]

If we are being honest about the rampant colourism in Latin America she may not have liked Félix that much in terms of his appearance. Dark skin and type 4c hair. I grew up hearing only awful things about having those features.

[@thecrownfighter7189]

Here’s a theory: between “He wants five babies” and telling about Bruno’s vision at dinner when she was able to keep him a secret for 10 years, do you think Dolores tried to get Isabela to crack and admit she does not want to fall in love with Mariano?

[@jovanym2931]

No

[@klaravictoryklimecka]

possible since Dolores probably knew Isabela doesn't want to marry Mariano

[@riserose700]

I would think so. Dolores is a quiet person (nothing bad with that). She could probably learn how to be sneaky around people. People don’t seem to talk to her unless they need something.

[@rovanajean9550]

well she's scared that Bruno's vision about casita cracking would be true (just like her lines in "We don't talk about Bruno) so she panicked ofc. From a logical standpoint that's it

[@christopherrosas2738]

He wants five babies was so a ploy to worry Isabella..... Dolores knows way more than she's putting out there and Mariano is hers not Isabella's.... anything to get Isabella out of the way so she can swoop in

[@kiki0girlify]

I think that the biggest contributing factors for Felix and Augustin is that they helped contribute to the family. Felix helps control Pepa's moods with his charm. Augustin helps advertise Julietta's abilities by being accident prone and being healed by her. Mariano is handsome and has a good reputation in the village and helps verify Isabella's beauty. It's all about how the people who come into the family are useful to the family.

[@Tialovestea]

Mariano writes poems which would be calm and nice for Dolores since she has sensitive ears due to her gift

[@testerwulf3357]

@@Tialovestea Omg that's an amazing thought..he does seem like the more sensitive type, and I bet she'd enjoy a good poem or a dozen, so it all balances out. He could be her gossip buddy to talk about the stuff she hears or just there to help her relax and be happy.

[@Tialovestea]

@@testerwulf3357 yup!

[@lxvelytorie9021]

félix and augustín are the first actual disney fathers that are good and still there (idk about every movie but based on the movies ive watched)

[@IsaacCarlson]

Princess Aurora's father was around and did everything to protect her as best as he could. Triton overextended himself, but he was really trying too. Oh and Mufasa is an epic father.

[@poploli2660]

@@IsaacCarlson yeah but mufasa died pretty early in the movie

[@Troutprophet]

101 Dalmatians. Pongo is a present dad.

[@taphappyfeet]

@@IsaacCarlson Pacha from The Emperor's New Groove!

[@mavidarkie]

Mulan's father! 🥺

[@shinshokulc]

Felix is absolutely wonderful, but I’m a sucker for a nerd in glasses. Also, that eyebrow and smirk Augustin gives Julietta when Mirabel sings “and my Dad married Julietta” is just too charming. I also love when Augustin chases after Luisa to make sure she’s okay.

[@Heather777S]

He is a very supportive and caring father, I love that. The eyebrow wag was so adorable!

[@j.d.e.7416]

He also does a cute hip bump with Julieta when he's telling her Mirabel takes after her (at the end). They're an affectionate couple.

[@moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115]

I wish that the deleted scenes with Félix and Augustín could have been saved in the Encanto animated film. My favorite husband is Félix. I wish that Félix could be in the movie much more. 🌈🏡✨

[@JC_Cali]

Yeah, for real! Like most in this fandom wish they could spin off into a series (me included), but some of these deleted scenes shoulda remained! (like the one with Abula apologizing to Mirabel).

[@toomanymonkeys21]

I love that “Félix”means “happiness.” ✨❤️✨

[@theserpent8667]

@@toomanymonkeys21 Nice! Wonder why he looks suspiciously like Maui...

[@billcipher8645]

@@theserpent8667 he is just dark skinned and short.. Maui is much more muscular and thicker, his face is also different It's not like having similar characters is wrong, I mean, Ronpunzel, Elsa and Anna are basically carbon copies of each other with different hair and eye colour

[@theserpent8667]

@@billcipher8645 I was joking, but okay.

[@EChacon]

This is an interesting breakdown on Félix and Agustín backstories and how Abuela interacted with her son-in-laws. I'd say I enjoy both of them due to them being fun loving husbands to Pepa and Julieta respectively and provided a good dynamic to them (Félix comforting and calming Pepa down when she's stressed and Julieta healing Agustin from his accidents), but I do enjoy Agustin considering that despite being accident-prone he's so supportive of his daughters especially with Mirabel and he's voiced by Fez himself, Wilmer Valderrama.

[@mx.purple6450]

What I feel is that Felix met Pepa when something bad happened in her life, and Felix was the only one that could calm her down.

[@imarrams511]

Question:Is Fez or Fes? Because in a episode(70's show) he said that Fes was an acronym. Foreign Exchange Student. FES. But why is FEZ? I really curious.

[@EChacon]

@@imarrams511 It's Fez

[@imarrams511]

@@EChacon Ok. Good to know.

[@tcrpgfan]

Imma make it better. They're not only loving husbands, but both of them have LIVING wives where all four of them are equally important plot-wise. IN A DISNEY MOVIE. Most disney movies don't even get one full set of parents. Encanto has two.

[@RSA-zv9hd]

I think those men are amazing fathers and husbands. Its not something that the media always portrays. It’s good to see men like them being supportive of their family and wives. Felix keeping Pepa steady and calm under the weather. Augustine protecting his daughter and being there for Julieta. Edit Felix keeps pepa calm and not go into a stress storm.

[@kirey3295]

Idk men. Agustín is not a very present father. He wasn't even aware of what abuela was doing to Isabel and Luisa. He cared mostly about Mirabel

[@gus7807]

@@kirey3295 yeah but noone knew about isabelas and luias issues so cant blame him and mirabel was super present and he did the best he could but true he wasnt much present in his daughters lives

[@yodel7781]

@@kirey3295 Are you serious? He cares about his whole family. He helps his best at Isabelas proposal (and respects when she don't want to marry Mariano), he runs after Luisa when she says "I'm a loser" and he of course supports Mirabel the best he can. And btw, he loves them so much he made them a part of his clothes. The flower he has on his suit is from Isabela and his two socks represent Luisa (these weight things) and Mirabel (butterflies).

[@xxcallmeniaxx3272]

@@kirey3295 not only was he present in all the lives but Isabela is also 22 so he can't really wait on here the same as his younger daughters

[@shaneyzamora2525]

I would have loved to have seen Felix, Augustin and Mirabel bonding over not having powers. I wouldn't be surprised if they were the ones that cheered her up after her door ceremony went wrong and even showed her the perks of not having powers or showing her that she was special without them.

[@miloebreday2675]

i wish they kept that in!

[@midnights2631]

Same

[@Ella.A.Eh.]

Would have made a nice song too

[@midnights2631]

@@Ella.A.Eh. That would have made it much better

[@fffakefffrank4115]

possible theory: Alma only became insecure about preserving the magic/bloodline after losing Bruno. js losing a kid in any way has to be it’s own trauma. evens when it’s caused by your own bs

[@Laeiryn]

considering the timeline, and how others say that everyone was afraid of Bruno's power, but Alma says that it's Mirabel's fault Bruno left...

[@shannonrhoads7099]

@@Laeiryn Apparently, the timeline for that day is, sometime after 7 PM, Mirabel's door faded. I expect everyone went home in shock after the door disappeared. Within moments, Alma asked Bruno to look into the future. Bruno's gift has a distinct effect on the Encanto, so Alma would have known he tried. But Bruno disappeared without a trace after investigating what was going on with Mirabel. So, your granddaughter's just apparently been rejected by the miracle, the candle has nearly gone out, and your son has disappeared without a trace, all in the space of what, an hour? 30 minutes?

[@Didagg]

I feel like this is true too

[@deborahhoven8360]

I think Abuela would prefer Felix because he is more useful in maintaining her desired prefect family image as he helps Pepa keep calm and in control of her gift. Agustin, being accident prone on the other hand, adds to the chaos. Felix is also charming, whereas Agustin is a bit awkward. And, even though Agustin's children have the most useful gifts of the grandchildren, he is also the father of Mirabel, the only grandkid with no power and Abuela's favorite scapegoat.

[@velvety2006]

and he did not shun her for either, he tried to protect her from Abuela's criticism

[@sleepyhxd1351]

its more of agustin being a comforting father, we can see him chasing after luisa while she's having a breakdown and standing up for mirabel

[@yodel7781]

Agustín is such a good father omg 🥺 And I love him for his awkwardness

[@MinnieMouse-oc6tj]

On the other hand, he’s also the father of Isabella, Alma’s favorite grand child. (Though they barely interact in the movie)

[@victoriascott3137]

I can't give Abuela Alma crap since she got cased out of her home, lost her husband, nearly lost her kids and her own life, and had to raise TRIPLETS ALONE. Plus she learned in the end and I like to think everyone got their apology from her... Also whenever I see Felix and Abuela getting along it just makes me happy. Like the evil mother in law trope is so over done so seeing them all just genuinely getting along warms my heart. Also Felix and Agustin definitely had guys nights out where they drank coffee and just chilled away from the other Madrigals. Alma might not have thought they were perfect at first but after seeing how Felix and Augustin made her daughters happy she gradually warmed up to them.

[@Hamantha]

Not to mention that you could tell that they love abuela too and did what they can to make her feel loved and young again.

[@xenaioaks5363]

She literally got umbrellas for Peppe and Felix's Wedding just so it can continue. And she probably sees herself and Pedro in Juilete and Augustin... loving their childrens.

[@michikomanalang6733]

It makes sense to me that Agustin would be more of a city boy; the way he stood up for Mirabel when Abuela started going off kind of hints towards that.

[@gamer242mooo]

I always head cannon that his family were from the city and had come to the village before the start of the movie possibly as teachers or some type of white collar professionals

[@tcrpgfan]

@@gamer242mooo Mine is that they encountered some sort of issue that made them want to get away from it and thought moving would be for the best.

[@durvapatil497]

I like Augustin because he always on his daughter's side.

[@Visceralx1]

I really wish my father was like that lmao

[@chingizzhylkybayev8575]

He isn't really though

[@victorialn1317]

@@chingizzhylkybayev8575 Hum, yes, he is.

[@bemiatto67]

@@chingizzhylkybayev8575 he was the one to defend her against Abuela

[@chingizzhylkybayev8575]

@@bemiatto67 excuse me, speaking up once over the course of 15 years is not standing up.

[@kathy-leew3989]

I think Disney really outdone themselves with these two. Really showing men, that being romantic and invested in their family is not a bad thing but actually something lovely. These two are my favorite Disney fathers/husbands.

[@juanrojas1935]

As I see it, it probably went like this: Abuela to Félix: You were made for her. Abuela to Agustín: She was made for you.

[@25nikolet]

What he forgot to mention, is that not only those guys were great to their wifes and kids but also Bruno too. Even it is a small scene, they welcomed him in the family without second thoughts and they were very warm about it too. Augustin hagged him and Felix was quick to agree with him when he was talking to Pepa

[@velvety2006]

it is possible Felix grew up with Bruno and maybe even was a friend, considering he wanted Mirabel to know what happened to him while the rest of the family wanted to keep it quiet.

[@acecat5575]

Agustin has more of a reserved personality, which I prefer, but I loved how both were great representations of healthy masculinity.

[@deshawnedwards6412]

Wasn't the whole point of her of trying to marry Isabella off was to expand the Madrigal Family? If she has a problem with the men her daughters marry she probably would've done something about it a long time ago.

[@sorenstarchaser]

I may have some ideas, since its quite obvious in the movie that abuela favors isabela more, because isabela's gift is literally her growing flowers, I think abuela wanted her life to be as perfectly pictured as possible, good looking husband, etc etc. even in the morning breakfast scene, you can see abuela remove a flower from her hair for it looking different that the rest when they were talking about the date, showing imperfection.

[@kyaschafer7357]

No, she was living through Isa.

[@doffy1715]

basically, isabela is the first grandchild of abuela, and looks a lot like her too, and wanted to live through her, since she didn't get to live her best life, so in turn she wanted to do that with isabela. I mean, Mariano looks a lot like Abuelo Pedro, and both do things in the literature field, Abuelo being a Writer and Mariano being a Poet. So you can see why she wanted to force the marriage.

[@junjunjamore7735]

The magic, she didn't start caring until Mirabel proved that a miracle can be fragile, so she probably thought good genes will save the magic.

[@neigeshusband5327]

No, it was confirmed by Bush that she disapproved of Agustin

[@mimikyulover3411]

I love to think that Augustine probably pushes Julietta to be more carefree, more daring because well, "getting hurt made me meet you, so is it really a bad thing?"

[@Serendipideemusic]

Felix and Augustin seem like really fun guys.

[@NightmareWolf-yn4ll]

Of course they are Encanto is a great movie I read it 10 out of 10

[@Maaii_laaa]

And supportive

[@NightmareWolf-yn4ll]

@@Maaii_laaa Yes 👍

[@j.d.e.7416]

They have a cute little dance break together in 'The Family Madrigal'.

[@mmmaryj]

I also think Abuela appreciates how understanding and caring both Felix and Augustin are to their wives

[@TheMovieMistress1993]

I thought that Abuela would have had a hand in arranging her daughters marriages. But Agustin and Julieta and Felix and Pepa didn’t need their marriages arranged as it was already love at first sight for them. But yeah, I think she grew to accept them as part of the family. Felix and Agustin didn’t seem like the type of people who she’d have liked to set her daughters up with. Felix was also very good at keeping Pepa relaxed and calm and happy and that clearly pleased Abuela Alma. Agustin wasn’t perfect as he was quite accident prone, but he did stand up to Abuela Alma over her treatment of his daughter as he understood what it was like to be a member of the family who didn’t have a gift having married in.

[@valeriadavalos4724]

Director said on twitter that she was pleased with felix, but hesitant with Agustin

[@nantae1047]

*Agustín, Julieta

[@classiccutie916]

You know I was thinking about this earlier. Like how she wanted Isebela to marry Mariano, so it made me think if Felix and Agustin were the ones she chose for her daughters and they eventually had fallen in love or they met naturally.

[@Chopsparillo]

I remember someone from the crew saying Augustin and Julieta met because Augustin kept coming back to get healed over and over. So they probably met naturally.

[@oh_omo7989]

it’s the fact that isabela is her first and favourite grandchild that abuela wanted to force the marriage since she didn’t live the life she had wanted to live. i mean, it makes sense; mariano has good looks, (kinda) resembles pedro, and is a poet considering pedro was in the literature field. abuela wanted to see the perfect life she never had by seeing isabela and mariano having kids.

[@Real_Genji]

I love them both but for me it's Augustin, I especially liked how everyone is absolutely mortified by Abuela and he seemed to be the only one who set his foot down and stood up to her to defend his daughter.

[@celesteigo231]

I wonder who walked Pepa and Julietta down the aisle at their wedding? We don’t know about Julietta’s wedding, but I’m sure Bruno didn’t walk pepa down at her wedding. Pepa sings “Bruno WALKS on with a mischievous grin” and you see him in his normal attire. Of Bruno was waking Pepa down the aisle, he would be wearing something like Felíx was. Edit: Why are the comments being passive aggressive with me? I’m just proposing a question and ya’ll are being rude for no reason smh

[@LadyBlackRose143]

Its most likely Abuela, I mean- Mothers can walk their daughters to the altar when the father is absent. Happened in a Telanovela, so...correct me if I'm wrong.

[@imahumanperson361]

@@LadyBlackRose143 I agree. Hell, even if the father isn’t absent, if a bride wants her mom to do the honors she can. 🤷‍♀️

[@LadyBlackRose143]

@@imahumanperson361 Oh, k,

[@overwicket1339]

Ofc her Mom .She is Matriarch.

[@celesteigo231]

Just because Abuela is the matriarch doesn’t automatically make her walk down the Aisle. My dad has also passed away 4 years ago and 2 years ago my sister got married and our Older brother walked her down the aisle.Yes, it is most likely Abuela but that doesn’t mean Bruno wasn’t considered and Julietta’s wedding is still unknown.

[@christinadepenbusch9407]

As someone who struggled with crushing expectations, judgement, and criticism with my own father, I find Augustine exceptional. He wants to validate, support, and comfort his daughters. He takes joy in their gifts because they are his daughters. What more could a girl ask for?

[@BHStudios01]

I am a Felix fan, though both he and Augustine are amazing and incredibly loving fathers and husbands. But I’m partial to Felix simply because he is so good with Pepa, loves her no matter what, and TAUGHT that gentle, caring, and fun side to Camillo, Antonio, and Dolores.

[@Sedow1231]

Someone on Tumblr read the novels and they said that Alma was charmed by Felix instantly but Augustin wasn’t her “first choice” for Julieta but her daughter loved him anyway So I think as long as they are good people she won’t mind much

[@bananatheo3796]

i honestly wish that augustin had more of a proper personality as literally his only defining trait was "accident prone" that's it. honestly one of my favorite moments is when augustin walks in on mirabel with bruno's vision because it gave his character a lot more importance throughout the whole dinner scene.

[@itzelmontalvo6645]

I have a feeling they met their spouses naturally and it was not Abuela's doing like Agustín kept getting injured and going over and over again to Julieta so she could heal him and they fell in love. Felix and Pepa seem to share a love for dancing, hence many times when they are seen together they are dancing. So maybe they met like that? Plus he is a literal ball of sunshine, who wouldn't fall for that?

[@soa._523]

I said this as a instagram comment but my idea was that Augustin was a business man based on his suit in his 20s and came to El Encanto as one of his trips. He had a slight accident by tripping and the townspeople told him to see Julieta. Obviously he goes to Julieta often because of he gets into accidents. Julieta seems the type to make the first move and for my theory she says "you know, I like you very much Augstin! :)" and heals him with bandages, not food just so she can have a few extra minutes with him.

[@jafer78542]

Omg this is a really cute theory. I love it!!

[@erinharwood4440]

I absolutely love Pepa and Felix! As someone currently going through depression (wild mood fluctuations, not just sad) my partner is currently my rock. He always brings me around with humour and understanding; and I completely see this mirrored in their relationship. Love them to bits!

[@dance_ofThaDEAD]

Keep in mind Abuela didn't if the Gifts were going to be passed down to her grandchildren until Isabella was old enough to get one first. She didn't have the "cultivate the gifts" mindset she had with Isabella. That's probably why she was more relaxed with her children.

[@Laeiryn]

Dolores is the oldest, slightly, but I agree and that's a good point. Alma had triplets, three all at once, and presumably they all got their powers together. That may have been seen as a one-time event. Plus, it took so long? Fifty years? So Pepa and Julieta were both 29 when their first child was born? (And Pepa was 45 when Antonio was born?!)

[@doro5026]

@@Laeiryn Actually, Jared Bush confirmed Isa is the slightly older one , Julieta just got pregnant a few months before Pepa

[@animefallenangel]

A little off topic, but that concept art of Agustin at 3:33 looks like a piece of Gomez Addams fanart and I love it!

[@annikaruelo1383]

I love the two of them so much, but if I had to choose my favorite I’d probably choose Augstin. A month ago I probably would choose Felix, but after a couple rewatches of the movie I’ve seen how dedicated Augstin is to his family, his wife, and his daughters. And it’s just so cute

[@Pinefr0st]

I have this idea that Agustin and Bruno were pretty good friends when they were young. Throw Felix into that mix and you have three very different boys who would make for one awesome best friends trio.

[@Laeiryn]

goddamnit now i have to write friendfic of them hanging out as teens or something, THANKS

[@whattwowhat]

I think Abuela has one very big requirement which was "Must have kids to grow the family!" Considering that Bruno never married and didn't show interest in it, wonder if this REALLY bothered his mother and added to the tension he had with the family.

[@Regal99]

Given Bruno's reputation, I think the women of the community wanted nothing to do with him.

[@bearstarpresents2264]

Bruno was hated by everyone though, I doubt Abuela could find a woman to marry him if she offered the bride a million dollars.

[@whattwowhat]

@@Regal99 As if Pepa didn't have a reputation with the storms she causes, yet Felix loves her. and even if it was JUST Bruno's reputation, you think Alma wouldn't blame him for not being able to be "acceptable" enough for a wife?

[@shellamuchtar3661]

Given that pepa and her emotional swings still can attract a genuine love, i guess some girls in encanto might be okay to be at least, friend with bruno. It was bruno himself and his opinion about himself, that makes him think he is better alone. Bruno clearly thinks he is not as good as everyone else and better dont interfere, because he might mess other people's life

[@EmoBearRights]

I think being able to see the future would put him off forming relationships too. A You Tuber I follow says he used to look at dating sites and think this is a woman who can have a really great few years with and then have a heartbreaking split from. I think rep plays a part too but also I'm not sure I'd want to be with someone who would foresee the negative outcomes of every decision I'd make, I'm not sure I'd ever make a decision.

[@SilverSkyCloud]

i'll be honest, with pepas ability shes the last person anyone would want to make angry, also shout out to augustine for being the first person we see putting his foot down with abuela

[@_Egon]

In regards Isabela's proposal, abuela makes the announcement official the morning just after Antonio's ceremony. I think one reason for doing so is that she saw the magic coming back, and fearing that it won't always be there rushes Isabela's wedding so they can have children and therefore more gifts, as a way of secure the Encanto's future. Mariano turns out to be, in the eyes of abuela, the best option available in a rather enclosed place along with know him since childhood.

[@bradleyelliott1271]

I have a theory: each side of the family has their colour theme pepa having yellow and julieta having blue (not including Isabela since she didn’t get to choose her colour) and Mirabels glasses are green, a mixture of both the families. This is why I think Mirabel is going to be the next Abuela. (Also the nursery is above the house door)

[@joyy7513]

Augustin is most protective of Mirabel because she is the only ne with no gifts like himself. He feels awkward in the family and can relate to his youngest so he tries to shield her unintentionally overlooking Luisa's and Isabel's problems because they have gifts.

[@asymrsqueezes9675]

I noticed in Pepa’s song Felix said “no clouds allowed in the sky” and I can’t help but think Alma told him to ensure it was perfect.

[@N1ghtmareCharlie]

Félix and Augustín and probably the nicest people that got into the family, even Mariano is pretty nice at the moments he was on screen. Félix helps Pepa with her powers by keeping her calm, Augustín cares for his family and makes sure to watch over them, he loves his daughters and you can tell that he does. I don’t think people have realized that most of the characters that are married/might be married into the family and the sweetest people ever. Mariano isn’t a bad character in my opinion, he just wanted to love someone (Dolores) and he’s generally really nice to the people in the family. Now I’m just ranting, sorry about that-

[@unoriginal1562]

Fun fact, Agustín’s voice actor also voiced Handy Many and the guy who knew Ian’s dad in Onward

[@velvety2006]

he also kinda looks like the dad from onward lol

[@fandyyy2571]

Felix and Agustin aren't giftless. They managed to be a great husband for their wives and a beautiful father for their kids in a world created by Disney, whom as we all knew: having weird fetish of making a jerk, absent, or dead parents

[@Trollestiatumblur]

I get what you’re saying, but they literally are giftless. That doesn’t mean they don’t have worth in the family, it’s just a fact that they don’t have gifts because they are outsiders

[@fandyyy2571]

@@Trollestiatumblur I don't know how should I reply to this. So I'll just say: ok opinion accepted

[@Trollestiatumblur]

@@fandyyy2571 It’s not an opinion, they literally have no magical powers. I don’t get what you don’t understand-

[@fandyyy2571]

@@Trollestiatumblur then I'll just say ok

[@lusachukfi]

@@Trollestiatumblur they don't mean literally, they were just saying that it's rare for such loving husbands and fathers to be present in a Disney movie

[@kentslocum]

I appreciate all of the Encanto coverage, as the hype (and the questions) are still going strong.

[@moonchild977]

I love Felix and i’m not trying to say he was doing something wrong, but I think it’s obvious why Abuela would like him more - he’s the one walking around making sure Pepa has “clear skies”, something Abuela wants. while Augustin is over there never letting anyone put Mirabel down, and being her support, when Abuela would much prefer that Mirabel got out of the way. when she confronts Augustin about the vision, he says “I was thinking about my daughter”, making it clear that he puts Mirabel above the image of the family

[@livtempleton]

I wonder if Augustine wasn’t liked as much because he did have more loyalty to his immediate family rather than his extended family? He wanted to put his daughters happiness first

[@KL-ki8db]

I’d imagine that she would be very hesitant at first but considered their positives for the family. Felix would help Pepa with her mood swings and Agustin, although extremely clumsy, would use as great practice for Julieta’s abilities. Well I think that is how the magical gifts work where more practice equals more strength in that gift.

[@aloidia2122]

I'm sure it definetly helped with her baking. He was her taste guinea pig that helped her perfect repeated recipes and try new ones :)

[@KyleRayner12]

"Augustin, did you lose one of your socks?" "No. It's, um... a statement! I'm representing all of my children today, instead of just two!" With that said, I love both of these characters.

[@hannahhester8376]

Felix is awesome, he's definitely one of my favorite characters, and Camillo. I really hope we get a spin off series of maybe what led up to the movie, like their full backstories, or even one that takes place after the film but does flashbacks.

[@Ada-oj4gj]

I think that she would definitely approve. The reason being that without them she wouldn’t get what she wanted which was for the Madrigals to have future generations.

[@TS-pl4tf]

As an aside: Julieta is the golden child of the first generation and Isabela is the golden child of the second generation. While Luisa was seen the beast of burden, Dolores was Abuela's spy system. In Abuela's eyes, Camillo and Antonio had useless gifts while Mirabel had no gift at all, therefore Abuela saw the family gift as fading. A second aside: The first generation had gifts for: the Past, Present and Future. The second generation had gifts of: See no evil, Do no evil and Hear no evil. The last group of kids of the second generation had gifts of Growth for Change and Flexibility: Put yourself in other the other person's place, Observe to learn, and Talk to animals who may know more than humans (with which I agree) .

[@tarielkaroldan4106]

"I was thinking about my daughter!" And just like that, my namesake won a legion of loyal fans

[@kbm875]

I think the two dads were very good supporters to their families! Good job Issac Carlson (Wotso!)

[@Althomp81btg]

I love the way Augustin stood up for mirabel

[@Bulbasaur617]

I like both the fathers here. Even if they don't have Special gifts themselves, they're both amazing in character and personality. Especially their relationships to the Mardigal family.

[@stingerjohnny9951]

I would love if they make an Encanto Disney+ show to see more of of Felix and Agustin’s relationship. With more screen time provided by a series, they could take a lot of previously deleted concepts like Isabella’s true love of Felix and Augustine’s bromance.

[@ohsugarsnapsx]

I love Felix, I think his energy and vibes are so good! But I’ve also got a soft spot for Augustin, he reminds my of my boyfriend lol (who’s also super clumsy, and from Colombia!)

[@r27kristo21]

That's so sweet 🥰

[@deshawnedwards6412]

You know, next to Isabella, another member of the Madrigal Family I think could be giving a love interest is Burno. He's the only of his two siblings not marry and it'd be a nice way to make it up to him for his self-exile from the family for years.

[@imugi-16]

I would love to see him get a love interest. I think it will be hard for him though, since he was shunned by the town for his vision until recently, not to mention his lack of social skill due to his isolation.

[@jaggin7561]

I enjoyed them both in the film a lot. Would love there to be a series so they could explore their background and hometowns.

[@saraangel6696]

Let me say this. As someone from colombia, if the abuela didn’t approve, they wouldn’t have gotten married in the first place. Family is CRAZY important to us, so yeah, your parents’ approval is key. They will not force anyone onto you (they might suggest or try to set you up, but never force), but they WILL tell you loud and clear if they approve of your relations (not only romantic, but friends too).

[@abyssalzei552]

I wished they'd keep the deleted scene where we see Mirabel and the in laws interact together. Would've been great to get more screen time of the dads

[@usdutchkitty]

In a time where Hollywood loves to use the “Bad Dad” trope, seeing the trope broken with Felix and Augustin is just wonderful. Supportive, loving, full of life, funny… Pepa and Julieta really were blessed with their partners.

[@srabontichattopadhyay5671]

Another thing I felt after watching this video 😅: Felix always sneakily follows Pepa so that he can comfort her from injure or damage to other people and things with her weather power... He is the best stabiliser to her😍😂

[@RavenYoung]

I'm just happy she didn't try to imbreed and create the ultimate madrigal

[@CyricRO]

Even though she was too judgemental and critical, she wasn't SO stubborn that she was unwilling to allow love to flourish. She changed in the end so quickly, and let's be honest, someone who was really set in stone would NOT have changed their tune so quickly/easily. The fact she could admit when she was wrong says a lot about her character. She's hardly flawed, she just got caught up in stress like the rest of her family, and handled it differently. She did butt heads with uuh... (forgot his name, father of Mirabel) for a second when he said "I was protecting my daughter" but that was more or less him just standing his ground against her, and she didn't have much of a leg to stand on. I love these characters so much.

[@animefreak1149]

This is lovely and a huge wish for me, I’ve been with my partner for 8 years and his mom still tries to spilt us up and says I’m not family, I’m just lucky that my partner has my back and always puts me first and says I’m his family 💕

[@Nozubozu]

I always kinda wondered if Mirabel not getting a gift was ever negatively attributed to Agustín by Alma somehow. Especially if she didn't like him much in the first place. Or I wonder, even, if the relationship maybe soured a bit after Mirabel's gift ceremony because he tried to defend her?

[@victorialn1317]

At first, I thought Mirabel didn’t get a gift because he was like his father Agustín, you know, giftless. Like if she has giftless blood. But no, my theory can’t be true because director said that if they adopt a child, he would have a gift because it’s in the Family Madrigal

[@ceejayjones2567]

@@victorialn1317 it also contradicts the fact that the other 5 grandkids with a giftless father all have gifts.

[@oleanasea]

Fun fact why bees are always stinging augustine: Cause Isabella gave him a flower t

[@NightmareWolf-yn4ll]

I actually never thought of that thank you for making this video

[@IsaacCarlson]

It's my absolute pleasure! Thank YOU for watching!

[@NightmareWolf-yn4ll]

@@IsaacCarlson np you are one of my favorite KZbinrs and I didn’t even think you would respond this is a dream come true

[@viviennemorgan7217]

i don't know we need alma's full story of after pedro's death and julieta has first met agustin and how pepa met felix.

[@tristanneal9552]

I like to think Mirabel's determination to help no matter what and regardless of abuelas objections is something she inherited from Augustine, and that he likely won over abuela the same way that Mirabel did.

[@kbm875]

Encanto was really special and relatable to what people go through now, Being the Foundation of a Legacy(Cassita/Pedro) Loss of a loved one/finding joy again(Alma) Insecurities/finding time to be vulnerable and relax(Luisa), Forced Perfection/Discovering there is more to one than their talents or looks (Isabella), It Also Taught Us To: Listen to Your Heart(Dolores), Finding Yourself/Being true to who you are(Camillo), Communicating with the ones who are most quiet/animals or people(Antonio), Understanding Your Emotions and how they work(Pepa), Healing the soul/helping others (Julieta) Seeing into yourself and helping others to see themselves as their best version of their future self(Bruno) Supporting and caring for the past(Felix) and Loving Your Children, gifted or not (Augustine). But above all, Acceptance, Self-Love and giving/receiving Family Support(Mirabel)! The candle could not only represent just the magic or miracle, but: Love Shines Brightest Of All!

[@mateuspedrosadasilva884]

I feel like the reason Abuela was more approving of Felix than Augustin is bcz Felix helped Pepa calm down and is always supporting here and helping with her powers while Augustin was really clumsy so the way she saw it, Felix was helping Pepa keep her powers under control so she can better use them for the town while Augustin was too dependent on Julieta's healing so she saw him as a distraction from Julieta's role in the town.

[@KiryuuMimi94]

They are so supportive and perfect for their wives. One needs help 24/7 because of his bee allergy, the other is happy all the time and always gives.

[@denisesilveira3427]

In families from Spanish, Portuguese and Italian ascent, it is customary for the daughters to remain close to the mother, so often the husbands move closer to their in-laws. Some Spanish-speaking countries in Latin America give the children their mother’s surname last (instead of their father’s surname), which would explain why they were all “Madrigal”.

[@mplahke]

In spanish-speaking countries the kids usually have this structure: first name, dad's last name, mom's last name (+ added generations, so complete names can get long). But in everyday world, it's first name + dad's last name. Example is Markos Molitsas Zuniga from Daily Kos--his mother's last name is Zuniga. The wives go this way: first name, birth family last name + "de"+ husband's last name, so Pepa Madrigal de (Felix last name)

[@Ace_Maus]

Right off the bat, the fact that Félix got Alma to dance along with him clearly shows they're generally on good terms (except when she tries to keep Pepa's emotions in check).

[@KimDongWookfan]

We need prequel for this. Wondering Bruno had love interest before?

[@Initiallyleo]

I assume she approved because they were friendly, well-liked men who were willing to marry into the Madrigal family and join the household. Pepa and Julieta never moved out (they presumably both still live in their original gift-made rooms) and Alma maintained her place and power as family matriarch. Also, while Alma was clearly VERY tough on her kids, I think she started getting even more controlling after Mirabel didn’t get a gift, so maybe she was more willing to let her daughters date (as long as they got her blessing) while Isabela basically had an arranged engagement.

I think what won Abuela over for Agustin was his musical talents, as it might have reminded her of Pedro (cuz I think Pedro was a writer?)

[@j.d.e.7416]

Augustin probably climbed vastly in the ratings when he fathered 1) the first grandchild and 2) it was the 'perfect' Isabela (who is so clearly Abuela's favorite)

[@alisondiskin3889]

I wonder what kind of woman would married Bruno? Someone loyal, kindhearted, supportive when his visions are well not so good and would stand up for him when alma is mad at him.

[@EmoBearRights]

I think she has to be a come what may type person with a strong idea about believing the best about people, no matter what others say about them.

[@MildlyRabid]

Augustín stood up to Abuela so naturally that it must not have been the first time. He probably asserted himself early, trying to defend Julieta’s right to rest or whatnot. Also, since Julieta was her favorite, Abuela was more picky and more upset about Julieta being “taken away” (on the other hand, she was probably desperate to get Pepa stable and “under control”)

[@RoseCadenza]

I honestly have a hard time picking over the two of them. Felix gets a lot of love already. So, I'm gonna say Augustin. He's a really good father. I was so happy when he stood up for Mirabel. He deeply cares for his family. He's just really awesome!

[@Simplytudors]

Love your videos Isaac 💗 they're so entertaining

[@lordkinesis4432]

Agustin: *Best father* Felix: *Best husband* Abuela: Well who am I to argue with those?

[@amyfalls]

i just LOVE ur enthusiasm in every video

[@karebear3152]

Throughout the film you can see just how clearly Felix and Pepa are in love with each other, how deeply they respect one another and how perfectly matched they are. I love how they play off one another and balance each other out. They're just so much fun to watch. Mirabel's parents' are super adorable too, just less interesting to me. They're a much more calm and goofy dynamic compared to Felix and Pepa's fierce and bold dynamic. They're both great.

[@alxny5154]

Fun fact : I found a hidden detail in encanto that everyone sees but don't realize, Julietta's side of the family has cold colour tone door arch things, while Pepa's side has warm tone. Bruno is green ( warm tone = yellow + cold tone = blue) so maybe if he had a generation the doors will be unincluded cold and warm colours such as light blue ( the blue doors are dark) , pink, and etc ( this is just a theory ignore it)

[@auntum4562]

Thanks for telling us! Because if you did not talk about this then think about the ecanto fans-

[@elizaalmabuena]

she may not have been as intense with her daughters as she was with Isabela because she maybe didn't know back them that the miracle kept being passed down to the children. With Isabela she was already aware that new generations also got gifts from the miracle and she was also already worried that the miracle was getting snuffed out, what better way to try to reignite it than by having more kids..... at that point she was also already driven to push the family (she viewed them helping the community as a way to 'pay back' and keep their miracle) so likely more driven to get the 'perfect' partner for her grandchildren.

[@MrAqr2598]

I gravitate toward Agustín more, as I am also a clumsy, accident-prone, but caring guy.

[@annnichols3091]

Abuela Madrigal was most fortunate in her sons-in-law.

[@TenzinBeifongIII]

Hey man, I'm coming from Kurtis' old video and I gotta say you changed my perception of "Disney adults" good on you keep it up

[@pandoravex4791]

Honestly, I’m just happy to see such wholesome husband representation. It needs to be more common place.