Ender 3 V2 Printing Head Upgrade Dragonfly + Orbiter V2 (Part 5)

[@S4EProductions]

I printed this head again because I didn't like my current colour just last night, you were one day late to save me 😂 I had the ideas you implemented in mind but know nothing about designing, what an absolute legend. Looked away from your channel for a day and you went crazy mode, I love it

[@DesktopInventions]

Shoot! 1 day too late! Well printing heads don't last forever, you can consider this for your next one ;)

[@edwinpadilla1977]

It was great hearing and watching your thought process on each iteration; it gave me a few lightbulb moments and happy I stumbled upon this video!

[@DesktopInventions]

I’m glad I could give some lightbulb moments! That matches my logo 😃 thanks for the support!

[@jamesbennett8004]

Swapping in Sunon Maglev fans in place of the Noctuas will give you drastically better airflow. Since the function of the ducts is essentially compressing the airflow and creating higher static pressure, you should seek fans that are designed to operate under that pressure. Noctua's fans don't have the greatest specs in that regard. They tend to be geared towards more open air flow design and use. EDIT: You also gain the advantage of using native 24v fans and if you find the Sunons a little loud, they still produce hefty static pressure at lower speed/noise thresholds.

[@DesktopInventions]

Thanks for the advice. I’ll plan to look at ordering some maglevs for testing if I can find them here!

[@markmacias4690]

This was phenomenal! Great engineering! Super interesting! Cant wait to see more!

[@DesktopInventions]

Thanks for the kind comment! Glad you found it interesting, I thought I was going crazy after about V7 haha

[@GReadyPrints]

Seriously 👏👍

[@nolan1597]

@@DesktopInventions do you have a redesigned x axis stop switch for the larger shroud?

[@DesktopInventions]

Yes I do thingiverse 5154640 now has a long version to download

[@nolan1597]

@@DesktopInventions it seems the slot for the x axis switch is slightly too large. Is there a specific perimeter and infill combination, or just put a dab of hot glue on the switch

[@russellmendenhall4259]

The inspiration drawn from an engine block is so freaking cool! Super aesthetic 💪

[@DesktopInventions]

Thanks! Luckily It's much cheaper than modding a car!

[@b00nb0i2]

I really enjoy seeing the design process involved. Great video! 👍... more please!

[@DesktopInventions]

Thanks for the support! More to come on further improvements to this printing head design!

[@jasonsteele6462]

Love the v8 thinking of doing it to mine

[@martinmckee5333]

I have a very similar setup on my Ender 3 Pro. I've got an Orbiter V2, Dragonfly, and HeroMe Gen 5 fan shroud. I designed a custom mount that holds the extruder, hotend and shroud along with an integrated ADXL345 for input shaper on Klipper. Generally a very nice update. Much better cooling, quieter, and improved extrusion. It's also set up to handle higher temperatures, so 300C is totally doable.

[@DesktopInventions]

Sounds like we have very similar hardware! This is the first time I’ve heard of the ADXL345. An accelerometer mounted in the printing head to help with cornering, ringing, etc? I will have to look into that 👀

[@martinmckee5333]

@@DesktopInventions It's used to test the resonant frequencies so that Klipper's input shaper can avoid them and run the printer at higher speeds and accelerations without ringing artifacts, etc. I know some other firmware provide similar functionality, though they may just use a test print to identify ringing.

[@senpaisimon_]

First of all, awesome Design, i am looking forward to building it myself. What are the offsets in x and y direction for the BL-Touch?

[@DesktopInventions]

Here are the offset values. I am still struggling a little bit on the overhangs more than 60 degrees. I'm working on getting an update out this weekend. X -24.9 Y -42.8 Z -1.5

[@senpaisimon_]

@@DesktopInventions wasn't the part cooling on point judging from the bowl test?

[@DesktopInventions]

If you’re using 4020 fans it should be no problem but dual 4010 fans performance is about 60-70 degrees for overhangs. I added the a new version for a 40mm fan on the front which performs a little better due to adjusted hotend placement. That version can do 70 degree overhangs with 4010 fans

[@DesktopInventions]

Also the bowl test is 70 degree overhangs on the top level

[@senpaisimon_]

@@DesktopInventions so the files are already on thingyverse I assume?

[@AsemGhanim]

Hi Thanks for the wonderful video and design. I was wondering if I printed this mount out, what material should I use if I wanted to print with PET filament from recycled plastic bottles at 260c?

[@chiefgeek2020]

Did you consider making your ducts adjustable? You could always use a HMG7 and get some decent cooling.

[@DesktopInventions]

Good idea maybe I’ll look into making it adjustable as well so it works on more hotness!

[@wandersgion4989]

I just started 3D printing recently, so there’s a lot I don’t understand, but what’s the benefit of this type of upgrade? Does adding additional fans help the extruded plastic cool faster and therefore adhere better?

[@DesktopInventions]

More cooling generally helps with overhangs or unsupported parts of the print. Something like the underside of a bridge. If you don’t cool the material enough as it comes out of the nozzle it will be too soft and sag when printing these types of features without support.

[@wandersgion4989]

@@DesktopInventions Thank you for answering my question! That makes sense.

[@DesktopInventions]

Your welcome!

[@garrettflowers7153]

You are a great designer!!!

[@DesktopInventions]

Thanks Garret! 😃

[@DesktopInventions]

What are peoples preferences for sharing designs these days? Printables or Thingiverse?

[@joschuaegorschin252]

Thingiverse

[@azamatbagatov7486]

Mines printables

[@Readmetxt-lq2go]

Printables

[@madr8b]

Printables

[@DesktopInventions]

Just posted the files on both! Sorry for the delay. Enjoy!

[@3D_Printing_Siblings]

I love your videos they have inspired me to upgrade my printer!

[@DesktopInventions]

That's awesome! I hope you enjoy it and be patient with the process 😃

[@joschuaegorschin252]

can you design one that can be used with the noctuan fan ❤

[@DesktopInventions]

You mean a noctua 40mm fan on the front? Yea I’ll probably work on that variation this week. The little 30mm fan now is a little noisy

[@joschuaegorschin252]

I have all the same things and it‘s printing very good

[@joschuaegorschin252]

(Part 4)

[@joschuaegorschin252]

will you then also make a design that works with the standard hotend? would be very happy

[@Readmetxt-lq2go]

@@DesktopInventions that would be a dream

[@darrengilbert8467]

I've heard using a bucket converter and 12v noctua fans isn't good because if the buck converter fails it can cause damage to the part that needs cooling

[@DesktopInventions]

This is true it does add another component that can fail in the system. Definitely true of most modifications perform at your own discretion. So far I’ve had good luck with mine *knocks on wood* :)

[@darrengilbert8467]

@@DesktopInventions nice! Good to hear. I'll probably look into it a little more.

[@nolan1597]

@Desktop Inventions Do you have link to a redesigned x stop extender for the super charge shroud?

[@DesktopInventions]

Updated the a longer model. Sorry for the wait! Thingiverse ID 5154640

[@GReadyPrints]

Very cool 👍😎 I like how you just do your own thing 💪

[@DesktopInventions]

Yea hopefully I can keep doing my own thing entertaining and informative for everybody 😄

[@elidinius4933]

What happened to the yellow color scheme

[@AlphaNovaOfficial]

Great design! Currently pondering if I want to design one too...

[@DesktopInventions]

Definitely a great learning experience!

[@AlphaNovaOfficial]

That's what I was thinking. I recently swapped the stock cooling setup on the V2 for a community designed one and really like it (improvement over original), but I can yet see a few improvements to make on this one. Thanks for the inspo 🙏

[@DesktopInventions]

Yea I’d say go for it! Just don’t throw the old one away in case you have to print a couple versions of the new design ;)

[@xuns]

would be great make a flow comparison with the BRASSfang, great designer btw, keep do in it!

[@DesktopInventions]

Thanks! That might be an interesting future comparison!

[@justinandresmooi7758]

Did you have to adjust the stepper driver voltage output for the orbiter?

[@DesktopInventions]

I did not adjust that. Should I have? 🤔

[@dimitriszellidis7084]

Well done very good job!!!! Keep the videos flow we love them. Is there any possibility to fit that in my ender 5 pro???

[@DesktopInventions]

Thanks for the support! I'm not sure if it will fit directly on the Ender 5 pro, but with enough effort and some design tweaks I'm sure it's possible.

[@dimitriszellidis7084]

@@DesktopInventions I thing you right with some tweaks it will fit!!! Tnxs again!!

[@nicholasbackus492]

what are the 12 to 24 volt adapters you are using? they seem nice and small and i need some to convert my printer to 24 volts

[@DesktopInventions]

This is what I use to go from 24V to 12V DC converter link: www.amazon.com/dp/B08R6337QY/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_a_RVV33CMAH9QZD15W7CNG

[@nicholasbackus492]

@@DesktopInventions thank you!

[@DesktopInventions]

@@nicholasbackus492 I've heard from the comments and seen some feedback on the Amazon page for this DC convertor that people have had issues with it not working above 18V. It worked fine on the ones I bought, but just wanted to bring this up to you to beware there could be some quality issues. There are many other options on Amazon you could also use but I haven't found others as small as this one.

[@rookie3528]

Awesome fan build! Is it also applicable to ender 3 pro?

[@DesktopInventions]

Thanks! The mounting plate looks very similar to the Ender3V2 so I think there's a good chance it would work. I haven't tested it before though.

[@rookie3528]

@@DesktopInventions Nice!! I think i'll try to print a better fan shroud soon for a time consuming project, always keep up the good work man! Subbed!

[@jokerlucrys]

I already updated all the same as you (Dragonfly BMS, orbiter v2, mounting head...) . I printed the test bowl and got the same results as original stock. And got ugly wall/layers on any 3d models. What's problem?

[@DesktopInventions]

Sorry your having issues with this printing head! What size fans are you using? I'll see if I can make make some improvements to the design this weekend to improve the flow even more.

[@jokerlucrys]

@@DesktopInventions Okay, mine fans are 40x20mm

[@senpaisimon_]

I have a slight issue with the design, i 3d printed the mount and ordered the parts. But now the Orbiter wont fit because its mounting holes are offset to each other and the drongfly bms is too long for the mount.

[@DesktopInventions]

Which version of the orbiter did you order? Also which version of the mounting head did you download from Thingiverse?

[@senpaisimon_]

@@DesktopInventions I downloaded the mounting head for the 4010 fan at front and I ordered the v1.5

[@DesktopInventions]

Ok I think the orbiter V1.5 has a different mounting pattern. I can look up the model and make a quick modification. I’m not sure why the dragonfly isn’t the right length though

[@DesktopInventions]

Do you have a measurement of your dragonfly from nozzle tip to the Bowden input?

[@senpaisimon_]

@@DesktopInventions is there a different version than the dragonfly bms? I would really appreciate that if you added it for v1.5

[@redfeather_]

My guy really loves his hot glue quick fixes lol

[@DesktopInventions]

Sometimes it gets you out if a hot mess haha 😂 other times it gets you into a bigger mess!

[@redfeather_]

@@DesktopInventions Absolutely true! Not just messes either- lack of concentration can leave you with a few blisters!

[@jokerlucrys]

How to configure firmware orbiter v2?

[@DesktopInventions]

No need to change the firmware, just change the E-steps with E step calibration. I have a short video on that. kzbin.info3AGysy5gLQs

[@jokerlucrys]

@@DesktopInventions Thank you so much

[@igorkh6621]

Why not to use 5015 ?

[@DesktopInventions]

This is a great question. I wanted to stick with axial fans to be more quiet, but in the end the 5015 radial fan performs a lot better.

[@kelestv4886]

türkçe altyazılı eklesen süper olur

[@DesktopInventions]

I'm sorry I looked into this and I could not find a good way to add Turkish subtitles without manually typing out my script and getting it translated. I hope youtube adds auto-captions for other languages soon!

[@dimitartenchev9338]

just use blower fans

[@DesktopInventions]

That would be too easy, sometimes I try to be a little different 😝

[@tonylessmeister7705]

This ender is just asking for klipper at this point

[@DesktopInventions]

I’ll have to put that on the upgrade list 😀

[@사토-s4i]

헤드가 무거워 보이네요....

[@DesktopInventions]

The total printing head weight is about 270-290 grams

[@LChristophe68]

Hello, sorry ! video as interesting as it is useless without sharing your STLs.

[@DesktopInventions]

No problem I’ll get them published tomorrow!

[@DesktopInventions]

Files are now added!