Endfield's Character Writing is Garbage (so far)

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[@VCE4]

HG: finally releases a cute horse-girl Eha: Endfield is a pinnacle of character writing!

[@f.b.lagent1113]

once they release a sword wielding, shield carrying, heavenly-light shining, sky praying, team healing, blonde hair-ing cute horse waifu we. are. gaming.

[@neonayse8803]

I also feel like the "pioneers who braved the harsh conditions of Talos II" unbelievable with how almost everyone looks like a college freshman

[@planetary-rendez-vous]

It's true, why is the legendary endministrator a little girl kid looking?

[@Rivershield]

I guess it can't be helped since this is anime. You would be delusional to expect the main heroes to not be very young, unless the inspiration was 90s anime like Cowboy Bebop and Trigun, but they don't make those anymore.

[@KABLAMMATS]

"the harsh condition of talos ii" is sound like college to me

[@_unknown123.]

I mean... Old dude or battle harden warrior kinda doesn't match cute and funny waifu

[@milesgoering3755]

Text at the end, for anyone wondering: "does the existence of d32 steel in endfield confirm the existence of astesia on talos-ii :thinking:"

[@user-qs3kz2xg8v]

I think the thing that stood out to me the most about Endfield’s character designs is how everyone looks like the exact same age. In Arknights we get characters that are clearly meant to be older (Shining, Hellagur, Passenger) or younger (Amiya, Rosmontis, Ursus Child Soldiers) with real consequences for their personality, experience, and general outlook. In Endfield everyone seems to have been pulled from the sane anime pretty-boy/girl clone vat.

[@yautl1]

My thoughts on the matter: 1. Given that Arknights is still maintaining its regular content schedule, this is likely a new team of writers. There are probably a couple of veterans from AK along to help with the process, but that doesn't change the fact that when you go from producing one game to two, your writing team needs to expand accordingly and the new writers may not be as experienced (certainly not with this particular setting) as the old ones. 2. The bar for characters is going to be higher here. With a squad size of four in Endfield, compared to AK's twelve, I'd expect the Endfield roster to be a third or fourth the size of Arknights'. With less characters around, however, they're going to have to put more work into individual characters to make them feel appropriately fleshed out. Endfield's files seemed about on par with Arknights files to me, but that's not going to be sufficient when you have fewer characters getting proportionally more screentime than their Arknights counterparts, and hopefully they figure that out quickly. 3. Most gacha games suffer from early story weirdness (Arknights felt more cohesive than the others I've seen, but it still wasn't immune.) One would hope that after Arknights, Endfield would start on a better foot, but as mentioned in point 1 this is likely a mostly-new team of writers less familiar with AK's setting and style so it might not. 4. And finally, of course, this is just the technical test. The point of this test was primarily to make sure the game is running properly on a variety of devices, so the writing may improve before the actual game releases, and we certainly haven't seen the full scope of the game's story and characters yet. So while this is a worrying sign, I wouldn't start panicking about 'game bad' just yet.

[@FlamyEX]

Man, and this is the least likely thing to change between testing, too. There's really good potential in these characters, and Endfield is squandering all that to make them as smoothly-peeled as possible-- Like, we KNOW that Sankta are race traitors to the Sarkaz. How does that affect Ember's feelings towards Xaihi? Is a sort of transactional redemption the only way she knows to make it up to Xaihi? Why do these girls wear high heels and no pants? How much of Qianyu pursuing the legacy of Hui-Chieh for herself, or to uphold the family name of Chen? Where's the conflict of Wulfgard and Medic Wolfboy??? Why won't HG have faith in its own damn characters to be cool and do stuff to you/their world??? Is it Liduke? Are you to blame, Liduke? Were you [too busy jorkin' it at the function to your own designs] to make real characters???

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Thats a big issue in arknights too Honestly HG never properly made any personalities at all, they mainly make backstories and thats all, most characters has the same "serious man" or "serious woman" personality as a result of it

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@Dorankuu You think they will change the LITTERAL lore after technical test? Lmfao

[@Miqzz]

@@Dorankuu Homie, we all would love it if that was true But it's just not.

[@EvalithFoG]

​@@kyarumomochi5146​ they removed the one thing that let us know that it takes place 500 years later. It's an early alpha, if course they can change the lore lmfao, plenty of other gacha have had awkward stories and nonexistent lore in their alphas.

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@EvalithFoG Dude alpha stage shoes the first chapters of the game, them removing some spoiler content DOESNT MEAN they will outright change the lore You have no clue what alpha even means it seems

[@EvalithFoG]

I doubt their priority was to deliver a cinematic masterpiece of a story in an early alpha technical test with 50 levels of content crammed in. They even removed the only thing letting us know it takes place 500 years later, showing that anything could change. Early alpha and CBT gacha stories tend to be pretty bad and incomprehensible which is what Endfield is currently like.

[@noksve]

cock-and-ball torture gachas? 😳

[@KABLAMMATS]

dude overanalyzed, thinkin the game will be release next month

[@GhoSt-mu2io]

@@KABLAMMATS I mean with how most beta test nowadays are just ads can't blame him

[@roomer8381]

not an excuse. Bad writing is a bad writing

[@roomer8381]

@@KABLAMMATS Do you believe they will revoice all dialogs and redo all the cinematics before release and present to us peak story? Hope is free, i guess

[@364-unbirthdays8]

The jokes in this video had me cracking up 😭

[@adamantiux9750]

It feels weird watching this video without being able to play the game to make my own opinions... As a matter of fact, it is making me dislike characters who I know literally nothing about. Better to sit this one out and just hope that these issues are resolved by the time of the game's release.

[@manoi8]

I think they are way too focused on the world-building lore to the point that they neglect the characters and compelling dialogue in the story. Also Endmin is basically a cute face Doctor is really bad. We don't need to have 2 "mysterious" main characters that would slowly be revealed later to create a plot twist, while the main assistant (Perlica) is the one that takes charge.

[@niallk9336]

This is the tutorial and Chapter 0. World-building is what they need to be doing to provide the basis for everything that follows. There's a lot of valid criticism out there, but criticizing the tutorial for world-building is... an interesting take.

[@manoi8]

@@niallk9336 you dont need to explain a whole thesis of world buildings to introduce the world itself. Many anime, games, etc that have a big world building doesn't have to shove down all of it to your throat on the start. If you are coming to a new country and decide to stay in, do you need to know the whole government agencies and their history and relationships just because you use their work? No you start with the people, then to the cultures or something in society level, then you can bring out the history why these things happen or important

[@KABLAMMATS]

isnt this game like 3 years more in the oven?

[@bittersweetener7836]

As someone who fortunately got a chance to participate in the technical test, I agree with what you said about Endfield's writing because when I was playing it, the story was the last thing I cared about. I went from reading every dialogue in the game during the first chapter to just zoning out and listening to the voice acting because the voices are nice but i couldn't care less about the story. it was really disappointing to read the character files too because they seemed to pale in comparison to Arknights' operator files, especially if you compare it with Angelina's. Arknights' operator files often reference other operators that they interact with, so it seems like the operator is grounded to Terra and its people, and in turn it feels less than an out of place OC insert like the characters in Endfield. It's specially jarring when you look at the visual designs of the characters which are amazing but reading their files feels like a brick being thrown at your face with how bland they are. It's also funny how you mentioned about Wulgard and Fjall fucking off midway because I remember when that happened I was like "wait, you are leaving? I hardly knew you or what you did, come back!" At least Perlica and Chen felt more like real characters because they hung out for long enough with the Endmin. Also I think at some point my mind made up some headcanons while playing about the characters to make them more interesting to me. That said, given that this is a "technical test", I assume that deep character lore and story aren't the main focus for this test so I would be optimistic that the writing will improve as time goes on, but I am unsure if major changes can be made given that the cutscenes already had both EN and CN voice acting, and changing that might be difficult. I focused most of my feedback on the AIC system because there's some serious flaws that I think really needs fixing, but from what I can tell in the tester discord group, it seems that plenty of people had raised issue with Endfield's writing, so hopefully the writing will improves with the next game test.

[@kyarumomochi5146]

I think they went with a hard genshin approach on this one BUT genshin fixed the character writing issues after inazuma disaster with sumeru and fontaine having amazing character developments so endfield copied the worst parts of genshin and called it a day lmfao

[@Ezekiel_Allium]

@@Dorankuu So you don't see how the dubs might make this situation different?

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@Dorankuu DUDE THATS NOT HOW TECHNICAL TESTS WORK You are the stereotypical arknights whiteknight lmfao

[@abdulrohim91]

​@@kyarumomochi5146and you like GI WK lol

[@abdulrohim91]

​@@kyarumomochi5146and you look like GI WK lol

[@FrostDemigod]

So far from what I've seen none of the endfield designs do anything for me, they all kinda feel like the same slice of bread and sometimes the designs make even less sense than whatever arknights has going on. But hearing about the character writing like this is making them even less interesting omg 😭😭😭

[@Pelsik]

horse man, my heart yearns to hear your voice again

[@_unknown123.]

So the administrator's use is only to open the door Unlike Dokuta, whose it presence can change the course of a battle even if he does nothing

[@Niken-hj3vj]

I don't like Endfields whole idea, even if they fix story. Why you had to make a game with the story happening so far in the future and still have some old characters and factions. Just having sancta and sarkaz working together in same organisation already might have huge implications. Rhodes Island existing in this game means that we can be sure nothing will ever happen to us in original game. And oripathy hasn't been cured, so we can't expect our characters finding a cure which is our major goal in original game. Instead they should have rather expanded on existing lore on terra and make a game with reunion members as mc's or rusthammers, inquisition, ursus northern guard, some random adventurers searching for old ruins, artifacts of precursors, aegir, ancient sarkaz. Terra's lore has HUGE potential. Yet they made Enfield with villains teleporting away after a defeat, with generic asf lines.

[@er220kine]

Enddfield writing it's like a game influenced by Genshin impact, it's a sht formula but it makes a lot of money

[@governmentshugedick8735]

Thats one harsh reality

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Dont know why you are saying that Are you one of thoae mindless genshin haters too? Because genshins story became extremely good with sumeru and fontaine arcs, Endfield seems to take inspiration from inazuma where no character had proper development at all

[@markopusic8258]

​@@kyarumomochi5146I'm not sure that's such a great compliment you're doing to Genshin there. I heard from friends who kept playing after I left that Sumeru and Fontaine were massive improvements yes... but that's still 2 regions out of 5 present. I'm not going to lie, I've become extremely jaded over Genshin after enduring a mostly miserable experience during its first two years... but Mondstad was and Liuye were as shallow as it gets and Inazuma was a jumbled mess with the worst major character up to that point in Kokomi, the great strategist who got fooled by the obviously bad guys while acting like a naïve 10 yo. That's a lot of pain you have to get through to reach the supposedly good part of the game, and frankly not something I would recommend. Genshin has valuable arguments as a game, especially now that the added content made it less stale and that devs progressively learned about basic RPG ergonomy, but the story will never be a highlight, it's too late for that.

[@ortah2616]

@@markopusic8258 It certainly takes a while for the story to get good, but I'd say from an objective stance they've learned from their past blunders and subjectively speaking; It's good now, the characters are consistently well written and characterized. It's just the biggest issue is that there's some story and character development hidden behind limited time events even recently, but they are working to release permanent versions of those events

[@3takoyakis]

I'm being tired with genshin formula Those experience with mihoyo really taking toll on me Why endfield need to copy genshin and make endfield an obvious cashgrab Who needs a sequel when AK still thriving and why we don't just expand AK current world building -_- Like seriously, AK being tower defense game really limits the story and newcomers

[@taka_0012]

I support this video. give all your criticism to hypergryph, it will improve this game greatly. but I will tell everyone, the principle of getting to know character intimately. We've been running together with Arknights for 4 years, so for Arknights players, you know. you get to know the arknights characters so well, very familiar, their personality jokes and all. The principle of getting to know character is time and experience. and what I imagine in this technical test. We are only given a little time to play with these endfield characters ( its only a week) therefore we don't know them. Even though I know them a little, Perlica is a protective, endministrator is careless and reckless who follows the chat "like a choice of action when she chooses violence for that NPC who has a strange speaking style." Chen, who doesn't like small talk, always grumbles. So are you actually reading it, or are you comparing it to games you've played for 4 years or more? I'm a tester, so I know its. I'm not defending endfield, I'm happy for endfield to be criticized for the sake of future perfection. I'm just stating the reality like that.

[@Hieulegen27]

Ye, I agree with you. If you really want to compare anything, it should be AK's earliest days like chapter 0-4 cause my god that was fucking tedious and horrible. All I got from it was "Amiya is your average anime MC girl", "Kaltsit is that wise characters", "Ch'en is that hot head character", "Swire is smug, Hoshi is funny" like there's lit no depth to it. Reunion okay, terrorist But as the game progresses more and as we learn more about the characters' lore and pasts and know their story much better and come to love them. Like how we first got Darknights Memoirs and learnt about Ines, W and Hoerdere, that was good. Also I will be honest, the test was like only 7 days so they prob only laid all the basic infos and world settings so you can get the general grasp of the story. Like someone said "They knew it was only 7 days so they have no reasons to write a bunch of stories to then change later on". They prob only laid the general infos to see how people react and to see if they should go with those directions or not.

[@taka_0012]

you're smart. Yes, that's basic knowledge. all games will do the same thing. And regarding technical topics, it won't focus on points like story. It's just a technical test, meaning it's aimed at some technical aspects such as whether the hardware and software are working properly or not. @@Hieulegen27

[@emenova3553]

​@@Hieulegen27Really hoping for improvement in final release cuz for me personally they'll be competing with Star Rail and that game came in swinging

[@foujiz]

What? You don't need 4 years to know if the writing for characters is good or not. You just need to read the dialogues. If it's good, you're invested in the characters. If you find them boring, it's bad. End of story.

[@taka_0012]

shallow thinking, all feedback about things you have just learned is subjective. experience and time more deeply into how you respond. even things like this are applied in the real social world. Do you rarely touch the grass?@@foujiz

[@xurnz3282]

Hopefully all of these were just placeholders

[@draftsky12]

Ongggg

[@nibblesnarfer]

I mean.. it's technical test, so yeah..

[@roomer8381]

you dont spent money and time on voice actors if youre making a placeholder

[@EvalithFoG]

@@roomer8381 You're so clueless on how many voice lines are cut during development. Dialogue is placeholder, not the voice actors lmao. Did you know that movies have fully acted out scenes with complete visual effects deleted entirely? They absolutely spend money that way.

[@lunamagnoliid8984]

It's like, perfect for the Arknights players who've paid 1% attention to the story always I suppose

[@NezeruGaming]

I feel so vindicated that others do see how bland Wulfgard (Kagurabachi) actually is. Saw it coming a mile away just from his visual design alone.

[@pegasusenderby4074]

"It's as if the Endfield writers have a competition to write the character with the least memorable traits possible" holy crap I think you are on to something, that might just be the case, so players would just be focusing on using the characters rather than focusing on knowing the characters in the tiny 7-day testing window. After all, typing out words takes significantly less effort than changing the skill compo or questions such as "the flow of the entire tutorial".

[@pegasusenderby4074]

which I think the flow right now is just ass there was like 2 hours of running around until what's the most unique about the game and its literal core system was introduced to the player.

[@FlamyEX]

yeah, they need to give you control over the AIC faster, you don't need any of this walking or combat filler to get in your way

[@blegh277]

i mean do we even know if the characters will be in the main game? its a test to test game mechanics

[@roomer8381]

your copium is something

[@giahuytran720]

I wish Endfield would just make the visual novel style narrative like in Ak cause I really dont want to see another Genshin style of narrative where the Npc( and the Op) just make a emotionless expression and moving their mouth while having to take a sec to turn a 180’ in order to change into the walking animation (another 2 sec as you watch they slowly jog off screen) it is pretty CRINGE tbh

[@shutup1037]

Never played jrpg huh

[@zacharysiow5478]

man i love this video

[@Hieulegen27]

Tbf, I can make the same argument for AK since 95% of AK characters is basically just there. Even with the records, it's also random as fuck 95% of the time. Not to mention, most of the good characters comes way later not early. Also regarding Wulfguard, it's just an english thing, he's expressive in Chinese.

[@kyarumomochi5146]

LITTERALLY And the 5% that appears suffers from the monologues so much that ALL characters sound and talk the same because they waste their uniqueness on stupid monologues

[@Hieulegen27]

@@kyarumomochi5146 ye, the charm of HG storytelling is their ability to build a cohesive and impressive world that stays consistent no matter how much shit it happening.

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@Hieulegen27 Not really? "Consistent" world you say? Every single event has their own timeline going on and we dont know for sure if they are before or after the main chapter events take place You shouldnt take "they show many regions on many events" as Consistent world building as we NEVER see those places mentioned again on other content almost as if they never existed

[@Hieulegen27]

@@kyarumomochi5146 We do know when a lot of the events take place because they have specific mentions of current going on events, year and timestamp. It's consistent because whenever a time stampt is mentioned, it rarely breaks the entire lore of the world unlike that Pela incident in SR. A lot of locations that showed up in events are mentioned again in events though? Ofc there are still events that feel off as fuck like Mansfield's break but a lot of locations do get mentioned in later events

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@Hieulegen27 Like what? Give me the examples of it go ahead AH events are litterally either on another timeline or in future We dont know if any of the events are before or after main story or not as there isnt a time frame REGARDING to it Dont mindlessly bootlick HG please

[@DarkfrostEN]

Eh i wont judge without playing Endfield and getting deep into it, it's lackluster and has many flaws in it but i keep reminding myself that this game is still in development, i mean this game took 2 years of development and im impressed of what they done in the game.. So we gotta let them cook first, i got a lot of faith in this game and i like to see what will they changed and make in the near future

[@MajorJak]

Hmm, I'm not really worried, I think what's there is good as a baseline for the writing to be expanded upon in the future. It really does not feel that different to me how early AK files/story were at launch or when it was still in beta. Some ops (actually most) have only started getting explored whenever certain new content around them started and this doesn't feel any different.

[@bishamon1075]

While there are some stuff about endfield im excited about, its no doubt reminded me of how pso2 went to ngs. It carries alot of the same redflag in how bland the world and enemy design, simplified combat, and weak opening plot. Still crossing my finger tho.

[@wreath4668]

It's a shame the writing isn't there yet, but I like to think that'll improve like how a fair amount of the early AK files and story were pretty lackluster.

[@rune2ch]

this video highlights my main complaints after playing the alpha test. Story and Characters feels like a low quality fan made spinoff instead of a proper arknights game I especially cringed so hard at the 2nd area emo twink boss wanting to hug chen is the only thing that kept me going (and the AIC system)

[@mammothmk3355]

Endfield character, is what happen, when instead of writing something coherent and believable, the writer instead consult a checklist to see if their character is "anime"enough. ( I mean, it's a anime game, but still...)

[@lumsalo]

Since it's early alpha, I think these are probably just placeholders. They have some unique designs to at least use something esthetically pleasing in gameplay but intentionally not enough characterisation to get attached to them

[@Elidan1012]

If it was just text, then sure, maybe, but this is also voice acting, which is not cheap. There is no way they hired someone to voice placeholder lines

[@isaacfernandez2745]

@@Elidan1012maybe not placeholders but they could definitely change some if not most of the dialogue, wuthering waves is already doing something similar im pretty sure

[@mycatjoe4]

why do i feel like Gryphfrontier wont do shit about the critisims of the fan base (especially EN ones)

[@awes5893]

Comparing Endmin to Persona 3 protag?

[@Vadikus2424]

Door-kun >>>>>>>>> Endmin

[@zgaryoz7787]

Just hope Endfield would have more beta tests like a movie test screening for its writing/plot too and make changes. Doctors would be disappointed if Endfield ends up with early arknights writing where almost nothing happens in the side story to develop the story and no character growth.

[@benjisurf]

struggled to put my dissatisfaction with the story and characters into words in the surveys, this is exactly it

[@nibblesnarfer]

I hope they listen to feedback regarding storyline just like Wuthering Waves. If it really happen, that would be great.

[@Unknown_Nerve]

since they are redoing the story I hope we can get better characters and well *story* in the future anything can still change so we just have to hope the devs listen

[@mn7306]

Eh, I don't mind much. It was still Tech test so there's a looooooot of time for them to change things. Some early release Arknights OPs also not really have that intriguing story until few years like Skadi for example. And most early Arknights operator also have very few things said in their profile to get more interesting story out of them, and we don't have Operator record yet.

[@wordliker]

6:57 replays in my head rent-free

[@lancergt1000]

7:30 bruh the Endminisrator is an originium bender, the fact that the story never brought it up until the final boss is nuts

[@sebastianrochefort6763]

Avywenna: Why do her clothes look like they've been labelled so she puts them on correctly in the morning?

[@luminary69revision2]

i will be excited for endfield if it measurably improves in any important aspect the only adequate parts of it are the sound design and visual effects the final boss is genuinely peak boss design tho but the fact that the whole party is on the field (especially with the far-too-simple-for-that AI) makes several of its attacks a pain in the ass to do anything about and kinda makes it a slog at times (actual real horrible bad awful huge problems) - combat systems (just about everything relating to it) could be redone to be much more engaging and unique while also getting rid of most or all of the issues the overly simplistic friendly AI present - weapons being separate equippable gear not tied to characters is a mistake for multiple reasons and literally copying how characters work in arknights would've been better but that might partly fall under things relating to combat, idk - base building controls could be...uh...actually put in the game, maybe even optimized for the platform the test was on? and, god forbid, improved substantially on mobile as well? it took me like 3 minutes to think of a way to do the interface for mobile to make it actually usable (and allow full precise control of everything you'd want control over while placing buildings) and for pc we have satisfactory as an example (which is already the thing they were using as inspiration) - base building progression could be expanded vastly so it stays engaging for a half meaningful amount of time - the acceptability of the leveling system can't be reasonably evaluated until the game's properly released to some extent and we see how much of anything can be gotten in a given amount of time, but copying genshin's system down to the number of ascensions doesn't make me very hopeful - a standard gacha stamina system in a vaguely open world rpg-type thing simply does not work, they're foundational components of two entirely different kinds of experience (slightly more personal nitpicks) - at least SOME of the menus could've been shuffled around a bit to not look like they were literally genshin screenshots slightly edited in photoshop; genshin menu layout isn't bad but it's also not the only good way to do menus and several elements of arknights led me to believe HG was more creative than that - the dude that became wulfgard had a fuckin AK (the gun) of some kind in the original CG trailer and while i'm perfectly aware that was a super early teaser type thing, 1. greatswords as a separate weapon class are a bitch to balance (either they're broken or not worth using in any situation) and serve no purpose other than adding bloat and making interesting characters unfun (or making characters must-pull if they're broken) and 2. i was given a glimpse of a reality where the game has an AK (still the gun) in it and i have been robbed of that reality - the CN test happened right around the time global arknights got lone trail and the way endfield completely and utterly ignores and invalidates everything that happened in lone trail despite being literally the most perfect possible opportunity to give that story an incredible, much farther reaching payoff is nothing short of criminal in my not-all-that-humble-actually opinion, *in its CURRENT STATE as of the tests* endfield is a truly cataclysmically disappointing creative travesty that absolutely does not deserve to have the names of hypergryph or arknights even loosely associated with it to summarize what i mean by that i'll stick in this thing i said to someone during the CN test "how did we go from arknights (gameplay that doesn't really have anything you can compare it to) to endfield (i'm watching genshin with a satisfactory mod and arknights texture pack, outside of that the only fundamental difference is slightly different combat setup) like you can compare AK to any tower defense game but you'll have to have like 187 footnotes endfield, i literally just described the whole thing" i am fully prepared for the inevitable "endfield isn't that bad, genshin isn't that bad, why would you say they're bad, you're so dumb, stop overreacting" in the miraculous event that someone planning to say something to that effect reads all the way down here, i will say *i never said completely unplayable, i'm pointing out bad parts; bad games can be playable and even fun, but still bad. i simply feel genuinely immeasurable disappointment* and having said this, if i get any replies to that effect i will proceed to not care at all and ignore them

[@kon-ichiwa6987]

Endmin: What is my purpose... Perlica: You open doors. Endmin: NOOOOOOO

[@lynerra1920]

Man we miss you when are you coming back

[@Disappointed_Philosoraptor]

Uh oh. The first characters you meet in a game REALLY need to deliver, or the game has the potential to be dead on arrival. This is actually very bad news, and especially character writing i not easy to fix. I sure hope they do the hypergryph thing and pull off a miracle, but if that's how bad it is, I am incredibly worried.

[@MatildaHinanawi]

i liked the part where eha said time to ehd this

[@lothar3073]

I wanted a new Arknights game that would give us an Arknights world to live in. MMORPG or whatever, because I feel like the Visual Novel way the story of Arknights is exposed is really bad and frustrating to read. I think the world of Arknights is quite fascinating and should receive a more in depth adaptation so we could really experience it, but I don't think this is going to be the one. I don't see the elements that make Arknights different from other games here. The tasteful mature anime style of Arknights isn't here, all I see is generic sanitized blobs of anime. The writing being bad? Well, that alone makes having "Arknights" in the name a mistake. I also don't see how the gameplay would be good. I find Arknights the only gacha game that I had the ability to enjoy. Tried all sorts of other games that I would say are in a similar genre to Arknights, like Fate Grand Order, Blue Protocol and such. This game is more similar to the Genshin Impact types, which I played, as well as Tower of Fantasy and then Honkai Star Rail (that one almost worked for me). None of these games worked for me, only Arknights. I just don't want this to be an Arknights thing in name only, I expect this to deserve the Arknights name.

[@skrawl8374]

Arknight Factorium looks good! I hope I will have fun with the game

[@chrislee5685]

I wonder it a repeat failure of Arknights that have weak beginning then improve in later chapter. Hope feed back from test will have positive changes.

[@yojo8667]

Finally, they gave me more Yato content

[@misterraider7212]

I 100% agree, i felt like hypergryph would dumb down their story writing and character writing to make endfield more accessible to new fans and watching a full playthrough made me see i was right. This is still a technical test not even an alpha or beta so there will be improvements but as of rn it jus feels like playing as a void of personality

[@Muda9090]

Dad come Back

[@Gacha-Ritual-Master]

I also want LoneTrail lvls of peak on day 1 but let them cook for now, Genshin didn't exactly employed the word "Writing" on release TBH and they did great.

[@chaosdestructionlove]

I cant get over how young all of these characters look, even the guys who clearly are supposed to be a bigger character model type. Feels like im looking at highschoolers. Is it just the transition from 2d to 3d??

[@Unknown_Nerve]

no arknights characters were always like that due to different species = different aging process

[@concettooniro-artsandtales3673]

Really good analysis, the game looks extremely interesting, but I do hope they will work more on characters, they look a wee flat.

[@disintegratedstrategist]

4:20 I know nothing about the character writing for Endfield so to hear it compared to rent-a-girlfriend (which I also read some of) is just.............. *wow*

[@veronicaa7748]

Am i the only who doesn't like this "genshin style" style while the character are speaking? it just felt really shallow seeing these character talking back and forth with almost no facial expression and uninteresting cinematography. (Am i expecting too much for gacha game to have a similiar way with Live-action film on how they execute the scene?) And it amaze me that HG took this decision in the first place because i am expecting them to do different on how they deliver the storytelling. Are we just going to accept that this is the "mainstream" way to tell a story? I know its still in beta but i still want to point out an example like in 7:33-7:38. am i expecting too much to see Perlica acted more realistically like holding Endministrator hand to prevent her from opening the gate Instead of took a few gentle, not quick sudden steps (to emphasize that she actually tried to stop something) and silently watching MC for a few seconds after asking her to stop? and Why is Ch'en in at the back doesn't react at all? surely a soft gasp expression could work Also i don't know if they will even rewrite the story. it has a voice. are you saying they are going to re-hire the voice actor again? are you saying they are willing to spend money to do it again? because i've heard someone said they are going to rewrite story. the dialogue. which mean re-cast the voice acting again

[@killugon]

HG know that EN can' read. So they reduce budget around character profile. lol

[@shutup1037]

Yea, they're just gonna read summary anyway

[@reallyreallywrong2228]

I always like saying that, ALWAYS when the main character is totally player based, then for the lore its a paradox, its basically non-canon, you can choose to lay how you want but you wont feel like it, i hope they do make an actual CANON main character, no gender choice, name choice is understandable, with face and everything, since always when it happens or the main character doesnt have a face or simply its design gets to be really lame for the "put your face here"

[@Phos9]

When I grow up I’m gonna have so much amnesia

[@hOFalt]

Endfield is running a losing race for me, since it's unlikely it's going to beat Wuthering Waves for me and that's most likely coming out before.

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

On one hand, this might just be bad character writing, and with feedback they'll try redo some of it to make it better. On the other hand, they have just given a couple of interns the job of writing the tech test "lore" so they don't spoil the main game during it, which would be weird but vaugely understandable. Still, i hope endfield character writing does improve. Comparing Ember to Saria.... it's pathetic.

[@DirtTapes_]

dare i say holy based for risk of rain and battle cats music

[@meh4294]

The game looks really boring, the characters are boring ,,the writing is boring, i was exited but looking at the gameplay of kyo in the 1st demo ,i found myself skipping to get to exploration part of the demo ,also alot of people (me included) want the desings to not look boring AND "geneirc si-fi cloths " however, OWL GUY I LOVE YOU

[@SuiseiAnimations]

Doors are very dangerous

[@blueadmiral41]

Yeah probably arknight:endfield wanted to let you know that games can be too realistic sometimes. I mean of course sometimes a person's life is not as interesting as we imagine :v

[@Delphineas]

Sorry, but I already found genshin impact to be absolutely mid-to-poor, and now it's being re-released as shittily as possible?

[@shutup1037]

Wdym? What part of endfield is genshin impact?

[@benrossphotos]

Endfield is super disappointing, there's nothing fun that was shown in the gameplay or story content. I really don't get the point of it at all

[@Unknown_Nerve]

“endfield is super disappointing” brother it isn’t even put uet and they are actively changing the story just give it time and hopefully stuff will change we still have a while

[@benrossphotos]

@@Unknown_Nerve The gameplay loop is what majorly concerns me. The combat is meh and the whole 'collect resources and build a base' thing has been overplayed for years now. Genuinely concerned it's going to release and just not land

[@Moonshine_143]

Yeah same thoughts. No docter either and its set years into the future :(

[@wilder6408]

I care more about the bland combat. I stick with arknights and have dropped other gachas over the years because of its depth and variety of strategies. Here I see a combat system that is neither action nor strategy. Perhaps it will be successful, as Blue Archive also has bland gameplay, but I'm just disappointed.

[@ortah2616]

Heh, I guess this really was the end... Field

[@zomfgroflmao1337]

Here is something I find when looking at the game, the character designs look like ass. Yes, they are very well modelled, nothing wrong with the quality, but they look like any other gacha games characters. I mean if we want to compare them to Arknights, take a random operator like Wildmane and check the unique design aspects, like the literal horse shoes, and then compare to Endfields 'every character wears high heels with some techwear for the apocalypse' 'artstyle' and it is not even close. It seems like the strength of Arknights of having different artist put their own spin on the ideas of the world is completely gone (probably because they relied on only a few in house artists because of the 3D models, even though they could have used at least other artists as basis to given them SOME character), so in the end they all have the same design cues. Even Angelina looks worse than any of her Arknights versions, just look at her normal version with the messenger bag and big sneakers, or the thousand belt older version with the same coat as in Endfield wearing big boots and a for fitting uniform ...., the only thing that is left in Endfield is her weapon and her coat.

[@drakdragon4480]

Tbh, it's still in alpha not even beta 1, so I have hope for future.

[@sandy4386]

Damn bro i feel old. Sorry

[@khalifa6413]

Let's share this video to ak endfield feedback. I really hope they didn't actually try and make this game as "another hoyo game". Cuz I like AK cuz of its storyline

[@mattpet7913]

I don't understand how u can call arknights fantastic writing when u can spend 1 hour reading 4 missions in which nothing of note happens. The pacing of the story and skill of the writers is horrendous

[@Unknown_Nerve]

that’s why he said sometimes sometimes arknights story is absolutely shitty story other times It’s amazing hell it was praised by one of the story writers for baldur's gate before

[@mattpet7913]

@@Unknown_Nerve i read like a web novel/light novel ervery week. I've seen a lot of shitty writing. Even then i can't tell u the last time I've read an arknights story where i was impressed by the writing/pacing. Like lone trail had good LORE not good writing. I cant name a single arknights story/side story that was enjoyable to read rather than just surprising lore drops. Can u??? The world and lore is pretty decent. The story telling is garbage. Id say the only game with worse story telling is gbf. A side story takes like literally 3 hours of listening in that game.

[@file17462]

Arknights executorfield

[@starpolemic]

This video is the real reason why HG sent hackers to Arknights: End your OBS stream setup

[@scrubscrub5634]

Not the Rent a Girlfriend manga 😂 Fanfiction writers having creative freedom is probably more of a bad thing than a good thing...

[@lancergt1000]

2:30 it really does not help that Wulfgard has the most uncool voice ever

[@niallk9336]

It's Hypergryph, not Gryphline. Gryphline is just their subsidiary publisher. Hypergryph is the developer.

[@lingerlights]

This is some horse content

[@madaokun3582]

just like in arknights

[@katarinanokami2718]

Time for them to pull a Kuro and rewrite not 90% but 100% of the story LMFAOOOOOOOOOO

[@4erejes]

Hola buenas noches desde México

[@lintecassidy206]

uh oh

[@dobosabel7453]

i hope that the writing is shit because they dont want to reveal any of the main storybeats so they made up like some shit to have players read, and the spots wouldn't be blank

[@Zarven1]

If it has weapon gacha like it looks like, I'm going to skip endfield. I have no interest in playing a gacha game with shitty business models like genshin.

[@3takoyakis]

Genshin was a spectacle. Though time now have shown otherwise. The management are really bad, they never care slightly to the players and keeping the mindset as "This is a spectacle. Players are either enjoy it or leave since this game are bigger than players itself" Now endfield is being developed by same guy who made AK. Dear lord, I can't imagine the next 2-3 years of the game bcs AK itself are horrendously managed by HG Both didn't care to players qol and giving game rewards. Only to specific region such as CN or JP. It's getting old, it make a bad experience -_-

[@Zarven1]

@@3takoyakis What are you talking about, arknights itself is extremely player friendly compared to other gachagames. It's why I was cautiously optimistic for endfield before I saw hints for weapon gacha.

[@fading_cinder7513]

How do you fuck up The Endministrator so bad??? She has so much backstory and set up for this???? What the fuck. And yeah, the lore so far really scares me. If endfiled drops the ball on the story I think I’ll drop dead

[@HellecticMojo]

At this point it's just better to admit that HG does not have good writers. It's bloat and glurge given with such heavy hand. Mystic entities are added each event with no real sense of interaction or scale. Mysteries just get piled on like the writers thought LOST was a good show. Does the setting even make sense that people with rock cancer gets treated like slaves when said rock kinda fuels everything and turn people into wizards?

[@errorcode4743]

When said rock cancer has a 100% mortality rate and can reduce your lifespan instantly then yeah for sure, real life is literally an example of how people would alienate others with certain unique conditions.

[@TheFirehands150]

Why they didn't just make Arknights Endfield a retelling of Arknights is just baffling to me. They just needed to deepen the character interactions, less text dump lore. I understand they wanted to make something different maybe? But they had the blueprint with all the characters right there. Do they realize how much they could have made announcing like "Abyssal Hunters banner and Undertides chapter incoming." They really dropped the ball here.

[@rachel6301]

It's not like AK is gonna die when Endfield is out, in the latest interview about AK, they are planning to support AK to at least their 10th anniversary and above so it's likely that both games are gonna live together for a while before they end support for AK. Also, making a new game just to rewrite the story is just a waste when nothing is stopping them from doing the same thing to AK. Furthermore, AK is already covering the past, present, and near future so Endfield covering the far future makes sense.

[@GhoSt-mu2io]

@@rachel6301imagine they do something similar to Granblue relink in the future

[@Rasselon]

You played yourself. How can you take the flavor text for a character deesign seriously? Just say "Ah, they neglected the story aspect entirely". I guess the mechanical design was more important for them on this stage of development. Maybe they'll retcon the story in later, lol

[@PlatinumKrown]

On the one hand, I wouldn't want to play this game if the gameplay sucked, on the other hand, arknights is like top 5 or even top 3 gacha's with good writing, so having this happen isn't a good sign, hopefully they just limited the lore for the test to make sure it was playable.

[@Istreakilaz]

Proviso should show up in Endfield only because we should be able to sue the manufacturer of these literal plot gates

[@KAZITOKI97]

I'm big fans of game Final fantasy 12 zodiac age and This game really similar like FF12 I really wan play this game so much for me this game will be 10/10

[@kiarime]

Yeah

[@Fuwachi]

How they handle Endmin is similar with Doctor in Arknights. Got woken up » meet people from the company than knows you and your ability » no memories but still able to do your thing. Just different ability, Doctor is commands ability, Endmin is Originium Arts. But at least in Arknights it has better conflict, in Endfield it's because of ROCKS, and they make cute MC just to fix doors, such a waste of a character. And the fact that Oripathy is still a thing and still no cure just a suppressor. That just basically saying Arknights story end without archiving the main goal which is finding the cure. Unless Arknights story keep on going until Endfield timeline...

[@vp7877]

Arknights character writing didn't really interest me until I read children of ursus. I Honestly think the way arknights wants to tell it's story doesn't really lend to good character writing (at least the main story)

[@Mr.Dempsey115]

Endfield characters feel like a downgrade or just mid version from the ones that we had in AK maybe because we were spoiled too much. It also feels they are taking from Genshin (or at least how i see it) Which is a shame because i think the characters do have a potential it just wasted. Hopefully they will learn with time and improve more about the game and writing...

[@raewsyadrs4645]

Besides angelina and ember, i think the rest of cast has a pretty bland character design especially compared to the starting cast of the original arknights. Also not a fan of mc. They look like a 2 star character. If your going to make them faceless at least make them look interesting or unique like the doctor. Its not even beta yet so there is still tons of time to fix things.

[@TheExpressionless1]

HG's Character Writing is Garbage in general