Endgame Tier List Update: Season 24 Legendary Specials

[@alabamaman1372]

After missing a sniper shot in Destiny 1, I never used them again. Thanks for the tiers.

[@islxndz3367]

I wish bungie execs were as committed to the game as Aegis is to testing smh

[@davidplatt9307]

Aegis CEO% speed run?

[@lordgrub12345]

Unfortunately, the only commitment Pete "Eugene Krabs" Parsons has is to his two million dollar garage.

[@user-vl4iq7bj5e]

bro knows more about pve balance than all the developers combined

[@Mugiwara2k]

A lot of them were.. then they got fired.

[@seb5542]

Its not that they weren't committed to the game. They were. It's the fact that the higher-ups were so financially irresponsible. Thats the problem and the reason why this has all happened. Consistent bad decisions that have led to the company being in the red.

[@maj29]

thank goodness thunderlord is still on top

[@philipt2798]

Only for DPS

[@ThatLazyyGuy]

Ah yes my favorite legendary special. Thunderord. Lol

[@DomDomPop]

More like FUNderlord!

[@moreskuxx5400]

​@@DomDomPop cumderlord because your damage output is equal to jizzing on a boss

[@jmfe10]

Game balance was already beyond cooked and Aberrant Action came just in time to cook it further.

[@thebigmeme10]

Deep fried

[@yuan3128]

@@thebigmeme10more like overcooked

[@jesuisradmusic]

For real, I was living my life thinking The Call was op, and then this f'ing thing comes out

[@Laeshen]

one benefit to fusions is massive amounts of transcendance energy gained per hit. On the second warlord's ruin boss, for example I can completely fill my light transcendence bar with dragon's breath and the dark transcendance bar with scatter signal in a few shots. From there I can infinitely chain back to back supers and transcendance, because they also give quite a lot of super energy on hit.

[@gutpunchYT]

i very much like the sound of a legendary weapon archetype tier list it gives very important context for big picture analysis of the meta

[@gutpunchYT]

it would be kinda nice to maybe bold the lines separating tiers, stuff can get kind of muddled

[@imjlu]

IMO overflow deserves a mention in column 1 for mountaintop because enhanced overflow puts 3 in the tube, so the really high recombination burst damage gets effectively doubled by 2 more unbuffed shots

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah it's not bad, I'll go add it if it's not there because I share your opinion

[@Artikz_]

Chill clip rocket sidearm when

[@alexandergordon648]

Revenant probably

[@bradyschulenberg6848]

Repulsor brace/destabilizing rocket sidearm when

[@basedcringe9000]

​@@bradyschulenberg6848Most overrated combo ever. It plays terribly lmao.

[@bmkbigpapi]

@@basedcringe9000so true, and it’s unfortunate af, it needs to be buffed heavily

[@bradyschulenberg6848]

@@basedcringe9000 meant either perk really, the combo itself is pretty bad, but a lot of my void builds lack solid damage weapons that synergize verb wise

[@chrishowell5199]

I’m so glad that galliard-42 xn7568 is still viable, thanks agers!

[@Calophon]

Aberrant Action turns red bars into free health, it’s just so good.

[@NickWatson-sd2bn]

YES YES YES!!! THANK YOU AEGIS NOW MY FAMILY WON'T STARVE!

[@Hydrodictyon]

As a big fan of aggressive snipers, critical anomaly is a blessing. Grinded the hell out of Salvation’s Edge for a godroll adept of this sniper. It’s really nice to see Anomaly get the recognition it deserves from the community

[@rytre]

Would you be able to share with me what I should be looking for with a 5/5 roll adept critical anomaly? Just got back home from a long work trip, and am getting the new raid stuff! (obviously the 3 column can change depending on how many people using chill clip)

[@Hydrodictyon]

@@rytre sure thing! 1 - arrowhead break 2 - extended mag These are pretty simple: as far as I’m concerned, you don’t need any reload speed on a godroll adept anomaly, cause column 3 exists. But you do want lesser recoil, better handling and more ammo for higher chill clip and recon effectiveness. 3 - rewind rounds + chill clip + reconstruction IMO, if you get these 3 together, you’ve got yourself a beast. Load 10 rounds with recon, than choose which perk you need for the job, switch to it, demolish. 4 - Chaos Reshaped + Gravestone + Triple tap IMO, chaos is what you want for damage, while you pick gravestone to get more utility out of the gun. I personally didn’t care what I got outside chaos and gravestone here, but if you get triple tap, you’re golden. If you don’t like chaos for some reason, bait and switch is also there. I just find chaos to be a better option. Ans 5 is preset, so that should cover it all.

[@rytre]

@@Hydrodictyon Hey man thanks so much! Screenshot that 😁

[@macrodrip]

If you're gonna make shorter videos, do us all a favor and give us a 1-3 hour podcast. I'd be so down to hear you talk through metas, abilities, etc. Love the content man!

[@TheAegisRelic]

Might be worth looking into haha

[@TKBadMoon]

Even if I stop playing Destiny i'd watch just to hear Aegis yap

[@ElMigol_]

Good idea, I would love hearing an Aegis podcast.

[@Cauliy]

this is perhaps the most useful tool created to help people know what to grind for that arent like completionist i just like to become as op as i can. aswell as showing this to my freinds that are newer. it helps a ton thank you for making this!

[@RjP_guardian]

You continue to impress with the level of detail and your encyclopedic goals of these updates - thank you Aegis

[@TheAegisRelic]

[@ixodesricinus3001]

Lost signal sticks to my kinetic slot on prismatic titan. One good shot gives you your ENTIRE darkness bar. Its insane!

[@bobjoe2604]

this comment made me give it a shot and man, it made me fall in love with prismatic. it genuinely feels like i'm prismatic 24/7. this weapon PUMPS darkness energy!

[@ixodesricinus3001]

@@bobjoe2604 great to hear! :)

[@LiesofE]

Auto+Demo for Nade Builds are so good

[@jordanreavis8163]

what's your roll?

[@ixodesricinus3001]

@@jordanreavis8163 auto + one for all. I dont need demo on titan and the bonus damage from one for all is noticable in end game content.

[@derekborders9647]

I feel like the RR/FTTC roll on Supremacy doesn’t get enough credit for being almost as good as bait and switch but much easier to use. DPS is a bit lower, but you get some back for not having to reload / swap. Popping a dragon breath shot and dumping 50+ rounds without worrying about timers or additional swaps is just so convenient.

[@Parallelocam]

Been waiting for this one, yessss Think you're massively underrating the call for getting abilities back super fast (demo/strategist). Both are solid with OFA Also, give aberrant action + mantle of battle harmony a try on prismatic warlock. It's being slept on IMO

[@christian_4904]

Ergo single-handedly setting back all of Aegis’ videos XD

[@CruzPT1]

How am I supposed to play the game without aegis telling me what I’m supposed to use

[@tacticutie4277]

This is such a helpful list. You should consider turning it into a little light or dim wishlist!

[@TheAegisRelic]

Someone is working on automating the spreadsheet -> DIM wishlist conversion

[@tacticutie4277]

@@TheAegisRelic best news I've heard all week!

[@bobjoe2604]

as a new player this stuff has been incredibly helpful to target what i should be looking for

[@Weebfox]

Thank you as always for what you do to the community 🙏

[@adenvh_]

Just to let you know Aegis I enjoy every minute of these

[@aaronyeager6778]

What an underrated channel.

[@Revadike]

Why is Aurvandil FR6 so low? It offers the same utility as riptide, with some tradeoffs. - it can freeze enemies with only 2 shots now as opposed 3 shots from Riptide. - It has reconstruction, which is basically ALH but better. - Because it can overflow the mag with recon, you can use chill clip longer. - The only downside really is that it shoots slower than riptide, making it worse for overload stuns.

[@TheAegisRelic]

High-impact frame with no relevant boss damage perks, Riptide has much faster overload stun potential and Vorpal/Frenzy

[@ravenous2268]

Energy specials feel so terrible this season (other than rocket sidearms)

[@hovno3858]

Real

[@arandomcomp2427]

Solar snipers can be nasty with right build .

[@hovno3858]

@@arandomcomp2427 will they still be good after a new season? No

[@lazykb]

Honestly over all kinda true. There's exceptions. But like most of the damage energy guns are iffy

[@Blanktester685]

@@hovno3858 yeah what else you using for special weapon dps?

[@MSK-o1n]

The ikelos sniper has been a very welcome addition to my GM loadouts. I like pairing it with speaker, dragons, ember of char and hellion, the ignition chaining is phenomenal and the ammo economy is so generous. I'm really gonna miss this artifact lol

[@KingJellyFishIII]

Buried bloodline is also a Rocket sidearm. They’re all bangers.

[@DomDomPop]

Glad somebody else noticed Lead From Gold on the rocket sidearms isn’t really all that. Drives me nuts how much people ignore other good perks for extra ammo that you shouldn’t realistically need. I use an Enlightened Action/Voltshot Indebted Kindness and I can quickly reload after every shot and blast whole groups. Saves a lot of ammo.

[@DemonKarasu]

This comment might age like milk left out on a hot summer day... Time will tell I suppose.

[@krakklover]

HE ACTUALLY UPDATED IT YAY (happy pepe)

[@samuelwallace9060]

Great video! It feels great to hear someone validate your opinions. Lead from gold is indeed over rated. Keep spreading the good word!

[@thomasbagrel5854]

Domino with subsistence or overflow + incandescent is good for killing ennemy snipers fast in medium-level missions.

[@benjaminwatkins429]

Good info. I think the solar snipers all earn a tier bump from the seasonal artifact. "Why not still hunt" is a hard question to answer though.

[@dude5590]

I know Long Shadow has been trash for a minute now but still hold unto it out of nostalgia for my CoS duo runs. Those were the days...

[@dadankengine6546]

This series literally solved my vault capacity 😮‍💨

[@tuna5332]

Midhas Reckoning being a high impact charges really slow but it also means it gets the highest possible bonus from charge rate perks like Successful Warm-Up. On a perfect adept roll it can theoretically reach 529 charge rate with SWU which is super easy to upkeep (can stack up to 20 seconds!). Being able to get Field Prep or Cornered in the third column is good too. Swapping weapons will remove the SWU buff sadly so its mostly just good for activities with lots of elites but I still think its something worth considering.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah the only problem with trying to minimize charge time on high-impacts is that fusions actually do benefit a fair amount from their perks so it sacrifices stuff like Reservoir, Discord, Recon, etc.

[@MyxeQ]

There is a reason I held on to my OG Truth Teller. Quick Launch, Blinding or Spike, AutoLoading, Disruption Break, Handling MW.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeahhhh I use ALH DB in PvP :P

[@PunknPixels]

Aegis the goat strikes again

[@ThriveOnEgo_]

in GMs aberrant action doesn't feel that great tbh. but indebted, feels really good. if incandescent had some sort of stunning capability outside ignitions (which don't happen often with it in GMs) it would have more utility imo

[@TheAegisRelic]

I really don't think Voltshot is a reliable stun option to begin with anyways but much like other primaries I don't think most people should take them outside of champ stun mods

[@ThriveOnEgo_]

@@TheAegisRelic depending on the GM is pretty reliable. however i did have a backup just in case :)

[@TheAegisRelic]

Of course :P

[@jackalsniper892]

For me it's the opposite, I use abberant in GMs all the time, don't like indebted much

[@HarlequinJitsu]

You sir, are awesome. Thanks for this. Invaluable info. I'm gonna tell all my friends about you... both of them

[@RafaelHipolit0]

I really recommend you getting an Indebted Kindness with Impulse + Voltshot. On Prismatic Warlock I only use Aberrant Action if survivability is really a big concern, most of time I get use Indebted Kindness with this roll.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah that's a great role, Impulse is super nice QoL, but this is an endgame list after all, where Heal Clip really shines

[@jackalsniper892]

Really? I really prefer abberant over indebted, feels much better to me

[@furyfist8489]

My favorite yapper has finally given me my opinion. Thanks my glorious goat

[@BosheitV]

Deliverance is surely A or S tier, Demo and Chill clip is a great combo since chill clip only needs 2 shots to freeze and both perks can be enhanced

[@TheAegisRelic]

Nah Critical Anomaly has largely replaced its role so you're really only using it for stasis synergy (which is at an all-time low)

[@griqs]

Maybe fusions application if slow need to change based in how many bolts connect, a full burst could freeze, that way it has better utility vs other weapons, while requiring a bit of something to not power creep them as hard....

[@blookey5707]

The abhorrent action glaze is justified. The buried bloodline rocket sidearm that applies weeken and gives devour isn't better than abhorrent action's healing and add clear.

[@Blanktester685]

false

[@ksiit117]

I’d like to see a video of that archetype tier list with explanations of what placed everything everywhere.

[@connormcateer7125]

I think Aegis likes Abberant Action

[@smoxch5444]

Best destiny YT creator by a mile

[@ryzesupremus611]

Thats a lot of work man. Thanks for the hard work. You really deserve a lot of subs. Btw, critical anomaly aint that good at least its not better than the succeesion and supremacy the goat

[@BKNYMIKE]

Running slice on the call proccs invisiblity which makes it S tier for liars handshake hunter for solo GMS

[@ih197]

Are you gonna add pre-nerfed still hunt to the historical tab eventually?

[@TheAegisRelic]

Perhaps yeah

[@novectus9933]

It's certainly deserving

[@paul2725]

tierlists are back letsgooo

[@user-wg7pw3ix9h]

You should include the collection 21% Delirium, It Stared Back, & Wendigo GL3 in your heavy weapon video! The LMG has been slightly powercrept, but overflow is unique, It Stared Back is a solar other half, and I think the Wendigo is an interesting mix of utility/solid enough DPS for say a GM.

[@life-destiny1196]

I have been playing this game since S15 and have literally never heard of It Stared Back

[@TheAegisRelic]

Added a pinned comment on that one!

[@HighFiveGhostenjoyer428]

@@life-destiny1196 new light

[@foemonkey123]

hmmm imagine a rocket sidearm with chill clip and another cool perk that would synergize with it

[@GrandmaDestiny]

Great video, Aegis. Aberrent is OP!

[@ukemi-]

rip truthteller my goat. blinding / alh / disruption break carried me through the legend witch queen campaign

[@MarkusKhan_]

How do you only have 68k subs. You need more fr

[@Galaxy40k]

The first drop I got of Perfect Paradox was Pugilist-12P.....as a Warlock, who has no melees that work with 12P....I apologize to whoever I stole that drop from

[@yourbrojohno]

If act 2 artifact mods work for act 3, 140 rpm solar snipers (distant tumulus, ikelos, twilight oath) are all still going to be great options for legendary dps. I get whisper exists, but you have to proc the perk, and for GMs i prefer running parasite ikelous because insta nuking champs and if needed having a shield breaking option is better than having to expose myself, ads for 1.5 seconds and then getting flinched so I cant crit the hobgoblins.

[@schlangpoofa]

when will be get a ballyhoo update? what the heck aegis!

[@TheAegisRelic]

What the frog

[@Sagittarial-A-]

Still waiting on a Husk of the Pit video smh

[@Juan-GC]

Gotta test them on Parsons’s green Porsche

[@disbled]

NEW AEGIS TIERLIST

[@Revadike]

Now, LFG for rocket sidearms are necessary again, sadly.

[@TheAegisRelic]

It doesn't really change that much since heavy ammo drops were the problem, not really special so much

[@thisone98]

Coriolis... I just wish this one-of-its-kind fusion had good perks

[@degenerativewalnut9079]

Season of the weapon testing, again

[@ammuhautaavaikene123]

If i could have 1 new weapon to destiny, it would be a solar sword like the other half, but with eager edge/whatever dmg perk and the blade part would be orange. I would love that sooo much!

[@TheAegisRelic]

I would love a flaming Eager sword

[@filophalotahpicist5736]

Im offended my greasy luck got 25k kills aegis/incan criminally underrated only thing is swap it for is occasionally my forthcoming aegis/chaos but its situational thanks for taking time to include glaives love to see it 😊

[@LiesofE]

My Truthteller with blinding nades, auto loading and quick draw though 😢

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah that's the old version :(

[@dude5590]

Loose Change on Indebted Kindness is amazing in this meta. And as much as I love them, I hope the community at large understands that they are gonna have to nerf Rocket sidearms.

[@xkoshy6033]

"Aberrant Action is the best Legendary weapon we've seen in 3 years" Riptide "Am I a joke to you?"

[@TheAegisRelic]

Not even close

[@illumo_d2]

Add Drop Shadow to the NEW!! Meta

[@kingkobra4910]

Destabilizing rounds still feels bad no matter how they buff it, volatile is and how it’s used just doesn’t work with how the perk is designed

[@Sestze]

Gallu RR3 gets Overflow/Focused Fury if that pushes it up to E tier.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Added it to E, surprised that flew under my radar, it was used in speedrunning for a time with StL + Snap so I guess I focused on that too much

[@lazykb]

I know these tiers are about conparing weapon types to wachother. But i think when you look at competition from other weapon types Mountaintop is better than Martys. Since top is a beast at major burst, and has movement, and is usable as a low commitment dps rotation item.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Mountaintop is certainly more versatile, I want to see how Martyr's plays out though ;P

[@pitmaster226]

What do you think about Golden Tricorn as a perk on “special primaries” like Traces and rocket sidearms? I find that a tiny bit of buildcrafting makes for a shit ton of ammo efficiency from the 50% damage buff.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Works well if you can proc it effectively with your build for sure

[@scalarmotion]

Hey Aegis, if aggressive swapping isn't relevant any more, what DPS do you recommend for the Tractor user against Herald if my team is still mostly using swords? The only other options that make sense seem to be either Strand titan stuff or a fusion... Or should I just weaken with Twilight Arsenal and do sword DPS too?

[@TheAegisRelic]

Trench aggressives or debuff extension + Ergo swap

[@scalarmotion]

@TheAegisRelic I guess warlock can use the prism grenade with weaken fragment to extend tractor debuff, and for the other classes it's back to focusing Comedians...

[@cobaltepsilon1080]

Thank you for your hard work!

[@mythicaldragon2260]

Pete parsons should give you a raise 😂

[@nameless2746]

Kind of sad how most exotic primary add clear weapons are outclassed by a special weapon disguised as a primary (Aberrant Action) (Also off topic but saw the perk list and can't believe it took aegis 8 months of recommending weapons with incandescent to finally lead to him reevaluating that incandescent was maybe pretty good and finally moved it from c tier)

[@Sabre5106]

It's weird to hear you glaze Aberrant Action so much. I personally much more enjoy Indebted Kindness with Voltshot. Incandescent doesn't really have the same killing potential I find.

[@pinkushion5437]

When is the Pete Parsons car collection tier list?

[@jabberbox]

appreciate your dedication

[@celsonjunior9376]

destabilizing rounds being 3s is still too long, havent seen anyone ever use it outside of some friends who happen to have it on some random gun they had in their vault and decided to test it once, i guess the gyrfalcon retrofit incident made the balance team quite... volatile

[@life-destiny1196]

I think enhanced has a lower ICD? I remember eyeballing it at 2s enhanced

[@luke1804]

love these vids

[@kpcool2877]

Salvager's salvo 😭Look how they massacred my boy

[@itszigzag]

Meanwhile, at Bungie; Pete Parsons organizing his Legendary Car tier list.

[@mostner7]

I’m also loving rocket sidearms more than anything else these days. The question is though, do you always use two at the same time? Or do you pair one with something like a fusion rifle or sniper or do you just pair it with a primary?

[@TheAegisRelic]

Nah not always, usually you pair with something else like a shotgun/sniper/GL

[@mostner7]

@@TheAegisRelic good to know, thanks for the response!

[@Five_head]

Aegis do you think the ammo gen Nerf has bumped the rocket sidearms down? Bungie made them gen ammo as a special would unfortunately and while I don't think it'll hurt their viability alone, I think It could hurt a little bit in terms of rocking double special

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah a bit mostly in solo ammo-sensitive content

[@rytre]

Is there a section comparing solely weapons to others in their weapon type? I could be missing something in the spreadsheet, but I find myself more often than not looking for weapons in this way. For example, let's say I wanted to compare solely which rocket was better in terms of dps or total damage without crazy buffs (eg Gjally, radiant dance machines, reign of fire). There is no section for comparison of base numbers, ie Cold Comfort numbers only have DPS and total numbers for Radiant Dance Machines, or swap DPS with Ghorn. With that said, I don't come with a problem without trying to bring a solution. I don't know exactly how to test DPS with your exactness, but if there is any way I can do testing to get these numbers or help make something for the spreadsheet, I'd be willing to do so! My main reasoning for this is because I am a stubborn Titan main who wants to find what works best without crazy hunter or warlock stuff (basically I want dad DPS numbers and comparisons). Hey while I have you, are there situations where I wouldn't want to enhance a random roll weapon (like an adept)? If so, why, or why not? Love your videos, they inform so much and in such detail that is hard to find! It would be worse for you to burn yourself out making long videos than just making shorter ones that get the info across-and don't destroy your schedule or mind! Don't forget to take great care of yourself 😁👍

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah the Reference tab in the DPS spreadsheet

[@KnownAsSys]

Deicide my beloved (I didn't want to farm for basso/dead weight)

[@Eazyrun]

I personally don't understand how so many people enjoy aberrant action with its 0 range. I'm not talking it down, I'm simply confused. Indebted kindness feels stronger over distance

[@TheAegisRelic]

I've never had range issues with any rocket sidearm

[@ForlornGG]

Opinion delivered, thanks.

[@tarrenfreeland461]

until its return with overflow and cascade is a great yellow bar killer for medium level content

[@KbIsCool]

good morning aegis

[@TheAegisRelic]

:)

[@arandomcomp2427]

Solar snipers with solar fulmination with ember of char and ashes can cause a ignition that chains itself . All you need is just 3 crits . Any solar sniper will work .

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah that mod is pretty cool, I try to avoid accounting for artifact mods when doing this sort of analysis though :P

[@Zurrke]

​@@TheAegisRelic you should reconsider, since the goal is to update these lists for the season they exist in, and because no serious endgame player will be ignoring them

[@imjlu]

Shout-out to Praedyth's with Osmosis for that shit too lol, in case you want to run Aberrant or something

[@ChaoticSynergist]

quick question about Incisor, why are the chosen 4th column perks Hatching/Attrition orbs? is Target lock or any other damage perk really not worth mentioning in regards to the weapon?

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah traces aren't good if you're holding them down on a single target, I pick perks that best suit what the weapon type is good for

[@funnyvalentine4265]

One question regarding Critical Anomaly. What about Explosive Payload in Column 2? Is that just not good on Snipers? Kinda surprised me to see it not even being mentioned. Or is all of this just from a DPs focused point?

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah it's not good on snipers unfortunately

[@funnyvalentine4265]

@@TheAegisRelic alright thank you. Good thing I kept my Chill Clip/ Chaos Adept roll lol

[@cameroncalladine4078]

Lingering dread? Weaker blinding GL? Am I missing something, it’s got ALH/Chill clip and blinding in the kinetic slot. It’s an anti overload/unstop blinding GL that auto loads.

[@TheAegisRelic]

In practice a projectile Chill Clip weapon doesn't really work out that well as you need direct impact

[@Fuwe352]

Im not putting down my indebted kindness, no matter how good aberent action is