Endorfy LIV Plus Wireless - lightweight mouse with dock

[@KitGuruTech]

UPDATE: we have found the LIV Plus for £85 on Amazon UK amzn.eu/d/0arSYMQY Lightweight wireless mouse - WITH a dock - for just £85... would you be interested in picking this up?

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[@stickyfingers9710]

I’d buy one to try it out. But can’t find it anywhere. Is it available in Europe at all ?

[@KitGuruTech]

@@stickyfingers9710 I can see it on Amazon UK amzn.eu/d/0arSYMQY - Mat

[@Iloveyoutube-oh4ug]

On paper this deserves to do well. It’s light. Is hollowed out to keep it cool. Has a good Pixar sensor. Software support that doesn’t look bloated but on point. A dock. A bit of rgb. Solid battery life. 🍻

[@UnitedAlgorit-el4hy]

Yeah it’s just their name. It’s risky. No proven track record for me.

[@Linuxdistro15-ih8ox]

Endorfy. Weird company name. Are they Scandinavian ?

[@boltsandbraces6261]

Polish ?

[@DarwinBrookes-ss6on]

@@boltsandbraces6261 Not sure, looks like somewhere in that region to me, certainly scanda area

[@fletcher3431]

The design is great, hollowed out shell makes a lot of sense for a lot of people, like me, lighter and less heat, you either love it or hate it

[@Praireboy-hg8ip]

Just to add I really like this shape. Looks for both hands too which isn’t common now. Most are designed for righties

[@KitGuruTech]

The side buttons might be an issue for lefties but the shape should suit either

[@lovingthehardwarethisyea-py1xp]

Yes was about to say side buttons look bad for a lefty.

[@jamey-pl4ez]

The wireless dock is a game changer! No more tangled cables. 😍

[@iamahappybunny7640]

That Pixar sensor is a good one. Looks like a solid product with good software options. Hope they manage to get stock into more countries.

[@JonathanPilson-mu3rg]

Can’t find them here either

[@KitGuruTech]

We hope so too!

[@UnitedAlgorit-el4hy]

Can’t find this mouse anywhere just their coolers and keyboards. Is it released yet ?

[@johnerikson2443]

It’s on Amazon in most countries

[@joemarconi8375]

Thanks for taking time to record the clicks it’s very important to know how a mouse will sound.

[@parker3715]

Love the lightweight feel and smooth tracking! Perfect for long gaming sessions. 🎮

[@grayson8414]

Great review mat, thanks - never heard of the brand but i like the cut out shell a lot

[@One-Two_swift-kickbox]

One is all you need. Two is fun. Three is wild.

[@larwiemcdonnel5322]

You drunk ?

[@jamest484]

Good on you mat for testing their battery life theory - they are really trying to pull the wool over our eyes with that.

[@andrea8723]

The software looks in early development, but I really love the light weight and drilled out look

[@vicomilano6417]

Good review mat, the switches sounded good - nice to see the mouse taken apart, useful to see the design inside.

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mdqmusic9]

I like the skeletonised shape, plenty of airflow and light

[@freddieholmes5581]

Great review Mat, like the battery test- that was a right old eye opener, they need to be much more specific when they list stuff like that as you said

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jeremiahtech3971]

Nice to have more alternatives, even if I cant buy them !

[@stevenbryant8445]

Lightweight mice, I used to hate them as I liked big chunky old girls, but I have a bit of RSI at times, and these are life savers

[@sandraLopez901-h9g]

It seems quite expensive for a brand with no name as such, but I liked the fact you got a dock with it too

[@KitGuruTech]

The dock is useful 👌🏻

[@sandraLopez901-h9g]

@@KitGuruTech You are right!

[@bishopDavis2115]

That Pixart sensor is really good and good to see lift off distance in the software as well.

[@KitGuruTech]

The sensor is very good yes

[@bishopDavis2115]

@@KitGuruTech I know!

[@JamesYoung24]

Thanks for taking the time to review these sort of accessories makes it way easier to shop.

[@Digesale]

Scroll wheel light is really cool.

[@Andrew-ks7zj]

Long distance mode in the software - does it work well or not? would have liked to see some test on that stuff

[@stefano8514]

The skeletonised shell takes some getting used to, I hated the thumb position too Mat, but over time you sweat less and its more comfortable, honestly!

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks for the feedback

[@KrishYadav55507]

I bought their Fortis 5 air cooler, its very good, Amazon had it on sale a few weeks ago

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad it's serving you well :) - Mat

[@jamey89k83]

software looks very clean and simple to use, I like that - even if its basic - corsair icue is now so complicated I end up getting lost trying to find basic functions. its gotten daft

[@domenico7561]

That software suite looks a lot lower draw than Corsair or Razers

[@pituror5743]

Good review, took a lot from this, keeping my eye on this company, maybe they will start getting more popular

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks :)

[@antonjoantonjo5719]

Price is pretty decent for what you get.

[@lusemenefee3527]

Quite a full feature set on their software. If you dont start it on boot does it retain the settings?

[@RobertWilliams776-c9k]

Their software package isnt too bad looking, have you checked out if it sucks much CPU time? I would have liked to see that

[@allyeric6112]

Those holes are so going to be filled with whatever Im eating. Amazing Mat didnt lose a few chips in there

[@KitGuruTech]

Close your mouth while chewing 🤐

[@Daniel-zl9im]

Hell Let loose, fun game ! whats your handle?

[@ryanrichardson7285]

They are telling porkies on the battery life - they didnt put any running solutions on their website, I checked. Good to see you tested it

[@oliverh1920]

The RGB strip around the base isnt a bad idea, Not too in your face which is better than everywhere, id leave it in static mode

[@KitGuruTech]

👌🏻

[@oliverh1920]

@@KitGuruTech 😁😁

[@4thofjuly-fk4oq]

I can only see some of their coolers and cases on Amazon. Anyone else the same ?

[@KitGuruTech]

I can see it on Amazon UK - Shipping from Amazon EU amzn.eu/d/0arSYMQY - Mat

[@MohdSoyab-z5y]

The sensor in this is pretty good, ive it in my mouse and it tracks well, found it likes hard surfaces better though. you find the same mat?

[@KitGuruTech]

It's tracked with no issues at all on my glass pad

[@huxley3775]

69g is amazing - I always like my mice between 60 and 80g for longer gaming sessions.

[@KitGuruTech]

Seems an ideal weight for you then. Worth trying before buying if you can.

[@huxley3775]

@@KitGuruTech Surely will buy!

[@Hudson234]

I dont know this brand well, cant find them anywhere to buy - is this even available ???

[@KitGuruTech]

Try Amazon in your country

[@Hudson234]

@@KitGuruTech surely.. will try!

[@jameskane6273]

I think the software has enough settings to be useful without starting to get silly *cough* iCue

[@scarletartem5987]

Magnetic charging dock is an excellent include.

[@leydguitarist]

I see you guys reviewing them sometimes, seem like a decent company if under the radar a bit

[@KitGuruTech]

They are trying to expand and get more recognition

[@leydguitarist]

@@KitGuruTech Great to know!

[@stavmangr]

I love your reviews mate ,is it possible when you review mice to include the full dimensions of them ?

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks! :) Yes of course - I'll start including them in all of my mice reviews from now on 👍

[@stavmangr]

@@KitGuruTech Bro you are the G.O.A.T of the KitGuru reviewers 💪👍

[@SECRET_MUSICAL_FAIRY]

I think its a good idea if you are buying this, to get it from Amazon and if its not what you wanted, you can now legally send it back to them. I love Amazon

[@KitGuruTech]

Good idea!

[@abarpongaming7630]

Its a little expensive for me, but i would like to try it, should keep your hand cooler than a standard chassis.

[@KitGuruTech]

Amazon stock them. Guess you can try it and if you don’t like it you can return it. They offer that option.

[@EdnattPoling]

Glad to see that pricing is getting more real world especially the way things are going.

[@Sneza-wm3qy]

Keep up those hard ays Mat!

[@Draakh]

The Liv Taylor mouse LOL

[@EddiePo-zw7zu]

Lighting that gets covered up by your palm is a bit pointless.

[@anthonyward4654]

160 hours on one charge? they are optimisic

[@KitGuruTech]

That’s one way of putting it !

[@anthonyward4654]

@@KitGuruTech Great!

[@MalTon-ip9us]

Agree the dock should sync with the rgb on the mouse.

[@_mr_follow_x]

Mat, can you please let me know the CPU demand on the software - any info at all would be great please please pretty please !?!?

[@KitGuruTech]

It uses around 2-3% cpu when you're tweaking the software and 0% reported use when running idle in the background (on a Ryzen 9 5900x)

[@joshuav.d.3777]

Its quite a lot of money isnt it for a brand without a name we all know like Corsair

[@KitGuruTech]

We all have to start somewhere. If you are interested Amazon sell them. Could always try them out and return if you don’t like the product.

[@joshuav.d.3777]

@@KitGuruTech We follow u!

[@lucifersheadscarf6988]

Good fair review. Their claims of 160 hours battery life is pretty optimistic lol 😅

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad you enjoyed it :) Yeah 160 hours may be a bit of a stretch - the dock saved me moaning about it a bit more :) - Mat

[@larwiemcdonnel5322]

That was a good review. I like the shape but I’d prefer it without the holes all over it. That’s likely why it flexes so much too

[@KitGuruTech]

It's almost certainly a contributing factor but we have tried a few 'holey' mice that don't flex so much

[@boltsandbraces6261]

Interesting I thought the same as Lawrie

[@kingcobra6955]

The software looks pretty decent, all the major things are there. But is it stable? any issues at all?

[@KitGuruTech]

I've not experienced any major issues at all. It just needs a little bit of polish in my opinion - Mat

[@Edward001]

Better mouse than a Razer mouse - and no bloatware either

[@KitGuruTech]

Which Razer mouse are you referring to ?

[@Edward001]

@@KitGuruTech Dell

[@Darknightsandwetdays-lb9ko]

Great looking mouse and a more focused software suite than icue for sure

[@Rispes-ne1fk]

If Im going for a gaming mouse it needs to come with glass feet. Good they included spares though.

[@canarychrome7012]

Thanks for the review mat. I think like me we are used to bigger heavier mice

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad you liked it!

[@gaeljames6225]

Can never buy these anywhere close to where I live, but maybe in the future

[@KitGuruTech]

Have you tried Amazon ?

[@gaeljames6225]

@@KitGuruTech Will try!

[@Matori-fc7gf]

Where did they get their battery life figures from? When it’s sitting in a drawer unused?

[@AjeetSingh-te4bp]

I found some of their stuff on amazon like the fortis cooler and some keyboards, but not this product

[@KitGuruTech]

I can see it on Amazon UK - shipping from Amazon EU amzn.eu/d/0arSYMQY - Mat

[@DarwinBrookes-ss6on]

Not a bad looking mouse - like the light weight skeletonised shape, under 90g I like - never heard of this brand, did a search on amazon , weird selection of products coming up, but not this one

[@KitGuruTech]

we have found the LIV Plus for £85 on Amazon UK amzn.eu/d/0arSYMQY

[@nightcorepeter]

Build quality seems a bit weak but its a light mouse with a lot of holes in it, not sure how they could improve that, the purpose of the mouse defeats that purpose

[@KitGuruTech]

We have tested some similar mice and they didn’t flex quite as much

[@nightcorepeter]

@@KitGuruTech Hmmm!

[@zanashiakallis7307]

Not sure if I like the way they have chosen to light this thing.

[@Blake846]

battery life, 160 hours - LOL

[@Austin023]

The design is for both lefties and righties too - I like a company doing that, getting less and less now

[@KitGuruTech]

The only issue would be the side buttons for a leftie

[@Austin023]

@@KitGuruTech Okay1

[@Socialesale]

I want that glass mouse pad.

[@bobsmithson8592]

just ordered this mouse from Amazon. If I don’t like it I’ll send it back 😅

[@KitGuruTech]

Hopefully you'll like it 👍🏻 - Mat

[@hothardwareforthewin-he4fz]

Seems like a good option if you are bored of the big players. They seem competent

[@gogopowerrangers6596]

It’s my ideal shape. Not sure why people can’t find it on Amazon 🤷🏻

[@KitGuruTech]

Great! Thanks for the comment - What mouse are you using currently?

[@FrankLeCross-fo5kr]

What mouse do you usually game with mat ?

[@KitGuruTech]

I'm using the Viper V3 Pro as my main at the moment but it changes fairly frequently due to having to use various mice for reviews etc

[@MrStefanos11]

Nothing has ever bettered the Microsoft PS2 mouse and nothing ever will.

[@KitGuruTech]

You mean the Intellimouse? They remade that a couple of years ago!

[@EricDavidson-cx7bz]

I like my Corsair dark core.

[@hotandcoldrunningwater-hj2mn]

how much demand does their software package put on the cpu ?

[@KitGuruTech]

about 2%-3% CPU use when using the software and 0% reported use when idle and 110mb RAM (Using a Ryzen 9 5900x)

[@LexieMorin]

Good one 👍

[@TuduRusikakolaoffice-gb8ht]

The software package looks like the early stages of iCUE, when they hadnt just added feature after feature that no one uses or needed in the first place.

[@KitGuruTech]

We rate icue quite highly now. It’s not perfect but it’s a heck of a solution if you like to tinker

[@amdforlife5591]

can’t say I’m a huge fan of all the holes. That would end up a right old mess in my house with my cats 😅

[@KitGuruTech]

I feel you. Fellow cat owner here 🐈‍⬛️ - Mat

[@samshawn4887]

I sweat a lot, wouldnt fancy dripping sweat over the PCB inside, recipe for failure there surely

[@KitGuruTech]

Fair enough!

[@samshawn4887]

@@KitGuruTech Right!

[@Deva-im8yb]

Where are you from? What part of the UK are you in?

[@KitGuruTech]

Staffordshire :)

[@inlovewithmycar7085]

I like heavier mice not sure I could use it long term

[@KitGuruTech]

What are you using at the moment?

[@smmorigins8926]

Not a fan of lightweight mouse.

[@harleylover9446]

Never had a light weight mouse. I’d be afraid of wrecking the pcb inside it. Seems very exposed

[@KitGuruTech]

I find it hard not to use a lightweight mouse now to be honest. What mouse are you using currently?

[@justindavis7600]

It looks ok. That’s quite the asking price for it however

[@KitGuruTech]

Unfortunately it's relatively budget for a wireless mouse these days, certainly when factoring in a dock!

[@ravindraarmo7265]

That body flex is pretty bad, especially with the cracking noises,. that is an indication the plastic is at breaking point iMO

[@KitGuruTech]

We always try to show as much as possible in the videos so you can make your own mind up 👍🏻

[@trevinowoods9602]

I do not like that honeycomb design at all.

[@AntonijoMilenkovic]

The design is OK neither here nor there for me.

[@Garogameplayboy]

Why would you buy a mouse at this price from a brand no one really knows, heck of a risk IMO. what about the warranty terms in case of an issue?

[@KitGuruTech]

Every brand started somewhere I guess. I'll try and find out more about the warranty and reply when I have more info - Mat

[@billy9245]

Liv Plus - what a crap name

[@Linusfikfaps-ez2qg]

My girlfriend like three mice under 80g. She gets arm pains after a few hours gaming.

[@KitGuruTech]

Plenty of options to choose from now! It's a pretty big market these days, you can get ones all the way down to 30 odd grams now

[@Onmoneyline]

Bit too much gamey for me.

[@cerevor]

So it's basically Swiss mouse.

[@Raul-id9gp]

Meh, very boring looking product. Lost interest 3 minutes in

[@weston1701]

Annoys me seeing these reviews for Endorfy, they seem to have a few good products, but I can never find them to buy

[@KitGuruTech]

Try Amazon

[@BlaiseMiller14]

RGB, RGB, sighs - put the money into better products in stead of just lights, when will people realise the money they waste on this stuff

[@KitGuruTech]

A lot of gamers like rgb. Usually you can turn it off anyway. Not sure of the added cost for this particular product.

[@BlaiseMiller14]

@@KitGuruTech Great to know!

[@Anton-xd5zd]

It’s hard to get a lightweight mouse thats built like a tank. Bit of a contradiction.

[@rufusmctavish1164]

That was a pretty good review. Their battery life claims are borderline cheating.

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks

[@jethvamandabhai3281]

£75 - quite a punt for people with a brand name you can't even buy in the UK - can you? Amazon list a few items but its not great.

[@KitGuruTech]

I can see it on Amazon UK - shipping from Amazon EU amzn.eu/d/0arSYMQY - Mat

[@takh6806]

looks trash and I'm sure it is

[@KitGuruTech]

Watch the video. Always a good idea 👍🏻

[@JAMANI-po3jv]

Any polling rate over 1000hz is just pointless.