Energy From Mountains | Renewable Energy Solutions

[@ColdFusion]

With a growing shift towards renewable energy, cheap and effective methods of storing energy and smoothing out fluctuations are needed. In this video we take a look at one of those solutions. Enjoy! PS I'm having the interview with Dr. Adrian on Blockchain technology tomorrow so expect a video in a couple of weeks.

[@GulaschHDTV]

ColdFusion again a great interesting Video. This year in my vacation i was in austria. They are using Pump-storage-powerplants for storing energy in peakhour economicaly efficient. Isnt the idea of pumping water up and down the mountain a great option for energy storage. As far as i know does it have a rather huge efficiency. Maybe you could do a video comparing this technic with li-Ion batteries. Greetings from Germany. Keep these amazing videos coming. I really want to Thank you for making this high quality content for "free". Have a nice day.

[@RIPHitchens]

About this technology, I've only one thing to say - "Sounds Good, Doesn't Work" *Trump hands*

[@GulaschHDTV]

RIPHitchens i think i does. The Austrian "illwerk" are building their Second 600MW powerplant right now

[@C.J.Gerwin]

I'm loving all these green energy videos. But I'm far more excited for advanced nuclear technologies, they solve all the current problems of the technology and are low cost and can make a huge difference. Look up Terrestrial Energy, Transatomic or Thor Con. I hope that you can get as excited as me for the future of energy :)

[@kiraikishimaru4532]

ColdFusion Thank you again for another informative video! Now that we are on the subject of batteries and their potential in the future. Can you possibly do a video on the huge mining reserves of lithium in Bolivia and how they can be the next big energy producing nation in the world for the coming decades?

[@devenderhai]

Wow..!! Video from Coldfusion and Kurzgesagt on same day..!!!

[@thestudentofficial5483]

dev D poor stampy

[@jan.tichavsky]

Also LEMMiNO!

[@AmxCsifier]

dev D and pbs space time too (3 min ago)

[@tallestliver7853]

dev D Sam o Nella

[@blackveganarchist]

AmxCsifier Yup! All are amazing

[@beefchillingham6790]

I'm in school to be an electrician and this is the kind of stuff that motivates me to work with energy. People who create technology like this are going to need people to help install and maintain it. We just finished a semester on solar energy and I'm strongly considering working with PV panels now after watching this!

[@iansavii4278]

Coldfusion and MKBHD. It's just something about the quality of their content that just makes it so much better!

[@jackdalton2538]

You've got a soothing and satisfying voice.

[@lewiswyatt4314]

In Australia in the snowy mountains we have massive turbines in our mountains which is powered by water dripping down the inner mountain. You can google it, it's called snowy hydro. This provides enough power to the whole of NSW and excess goes to other cities and states. If it's not snowing or raining and there are clouds, we burn silver nitrate which forces rain. You need to store your energy somewhere else because mountains are good for generating energy. I'm not trying to dis this guy but would you rather be paying to create energy or store it? Mountain hydro is already an existing technology and it costs less.

[@bloodrushed]

Just finished an IEEE paper on Energy Storage Technology last night. Good timing!

[@TomyHunter]

How about the energy stored by pumpin water up into a lake that's high in the mountains. And withdrawing it by letting the water flow back down through a turbine ?

[@PtrkHrnk]

Yes... the solution in this video seems overengineered 😆

[@user-nh2lj8so9m]

Because it would be completely useless because the energy gained from doing that would be less than the energy used to pump the water up. We need something that nature has already done for us, I say let's use some thermal storage technology to gather energy from volcanoes.

[@PtrkHrnk]

No. Water pumping is efficient enough and it far cheaper than this. That why there already are hundreds water pumping plants in the world already...

[@pawala7]

Energy gain was never the point. They just need storage, so efficiency is second to capacity. With that as basis, the compressed air approach beats out the gravity based pumped-water storage.

[@Blackshark876]

um yes that's normal, you can't break the laws of thermaodynamics. And it's not completely useless, 30% of Swiss electricity is produced in these pumped storage power plants.

[@mohanpeddina]

It feels great to watch your videos. Keep going.

[@johnguarino6891]

I really like this because the mountain never wears out like a battery does and thanks for sharing this

[@voxac30withstrat]

A bit of a heads up info for everyone or some ammo for your gun so to speak - Where I work we just installed $900Ks worth of solar panels. I worked closely with the project manager. I asked him how they work out how many panels and how to space them to achieve the required output. He answered that there is a world industry wide/universal set of calculations. So we worked out how many panels and how much area would be required to replace a standard 4 x 2000 megawatt generator power station. The answer is 20 million panels which will need 14,800+ square acres of land or wildlife habitat or farmland ( The aquisition of farmland which is currently happening in North Victoria and Southern NSW in Australia. Places like Corowa or Jindera for example). As for those bloody hideous windfarms, 24 were recently installed in a forest in Germany (yep thats right, a forest). 28,000 acres of trees were mowed down. When these things come to the end of their 10 year lives they are so incredibly expensive to pull down they leave them there instead. Oh dear what to do? Oh ok I know lets bulldoze more trees/farmland/wildlife habitat. About those solar panels, the VAST majority are made in China. If you buy the Tier 1 panels they may often last their 10 years of life. If you buy the Tier 2 and 3 you can expect around 2 years. However if you are smart you'll purchase the 10 year warranty. But wait - the chinese government which owns most of the companies making them are refusing to honour the warranties. Theres one minor (minor?) problem with the old solar panels - there are literally hundreds of thousands of them that they simply dont know how to dispose of. On another note - a question or two for the Extinction Rebellion people. If you're so concerned about animals being killed, why do we NEVER EVER see you lot protesting outside an halal slaughterhouse? AND..... whats your solution to introduced species like foxes and ESPECIALLY, cats killing of our native animals? Hey kids if you really care about the planet - protest on a weekend or holiday.

[@sethapex9670]

what's wrong with pumped hydro for storage?

[@Martin71209]

Relatively high cost and slow response times. I think it can take around 3-4 mins to kick in (that's the amount of time it takes for the water to fall down and spin the turbines) which is too slow for on demand load balancing

[@sethapex9670]

and hollowing out a mountain is cheaper and faster?

[@Martin71209]

Seth Apex I'm not sure but it's possible because pumped hydro requires a lot of piping to be dug as well as requiring a dam where as this seems to just require a single chamber although depending on the capacity that could be a very large chamber

[@harperwillis5447]

Seth Apex you have to excavate a reservoir and dig a borehole, which is more expensive because you have to drag all that machinery up a mountain. Then the reservoir evaporates and power is limited. Gas can be stored at a high pressure and gives more energy per amount of material excavated, and the bore is made closer to ground level.

[@nexisssss]

They plan on using existing cavities such as old tunnels, and natural caves, so not much digging required. The time to build such a system would be simmilar to a hydro of the same size. Hydro plants also have the problem of slow response time, meaning that when load is addeed to the system, they may take multiple minutes till they are ready to provide power. Also they flood formerly beautiful valleys with water... So while these Pressure-Storage Plants my seem overengeneered they might just be what's needed to get a reliable, renewable power grid.

[@JakeRound]

I could listen to this guys voice for days

[@Mr3344555]

you earned a sub man! keep up the great work. You're doing the world a favor by informing us instead of dumbing us down like the rest of the youtube channel. Just know someone actually appreciates your work more for more than just content. You're awesome man!

[@Maat11Udyat]

Multiple times I find myself going back to your videos for homework. This time for a class out of my last term. Thank you for helping me graduate 🎓

[@YadiAnyankah]

cold fusion sees the future. Nature is glad for your presence.

[@gauravpatil6289]

your every new video gets more and more better thanks for sharing such valuable knowledge .

[@Enyonam214]

Cold fusion is the best thing since sliced bread.

[@jdudsjekie]

day will come, where electricity is much cheaper than water.

[@erlinghagendesign]

Electricity will desalinate abundant salt water into drinking water. As you see there a very promising technologies developed to overcome shortages and problems. The only real problem is the stupidity of some of the leaders in the world to focus on aggression & lobbyism restrictions instead of enhanced science / technology research & development.

[@youngspunky2835]

or water will just be supper expensive ;D at least clean wataaaaH

[@luckerooni7628]

The day should come where essential resources are so plentiful and easily replaced that their cost is virtually nothing.

[@maxpower1337]

@@luckerooni7628 capitalism tends to favor making things that are abundant worthless thus keeping them scarce and expensive. Imo.

[@Barskor1]

@@maxpower1337 Exactly why your cell phone costs 4,000 dollars right?

[@josephvalentine4820]

Kurzgesagt and ColdFusion uploading on the same day!? NUT!!!!

[@Dionyzos]

We live in such exciting times! I can't wait to start working in this field.

[@benthere8051]

Another mountain energy storage technique is already in use. Excess power is used to pump water into an elevated reservoir during times of surplus energy. During periods of need the stored water is run through turbines just like any other hydroelectric power plant. I think there are turbines that will also function as pumps.

[@That_Guy42]

What we really need is energy storage in a transportable form like a fuel as renewable energy. As renewable energy is commonly best produced in areas far from where it is needed and sometimes in a different part of the year, the second of which this one deals with.

[@WideEyesChannel]

This channel is one my best on KZbin, Keep it up dagogo you're doing great.

[@jesussard]

These info snippets are amazing. You are an Ace. If you need tech people count me in.

[@timmax8]

I live here and didn't even know about this. Good to see new ideas rise

[@stephaction2023]

I didn't know about this alternative energy strategy. This seems like a great idea. Hello from Switzerland! You're always welcome to come back Dagogo!

[@ventisca89]

Cost alone, Glyn Rhonwy hydroelectric pump storage costs about $150m for 500 MWh. In this video (9:30) compressed air energy storage costs $100m-200m for 200-500 MWh. Further development needed to reduce the cost but building compressed air facility looks like more flexible than building a dam.

[@MrMelodynelson]

If you are faced with a mountain, you have several options. You can climb it and cross to the other side. You can go around it. You can dig under it. You can fly over it. You can blow it up. You can ignore it and pretend it’s not there. You can turn around and go back the way you came. Or you can stay on the mountain and make it your home.”

[@mmc5261]

You can also tell it to move

[@andilentuli7126]

Great and insightful video as always! Stiil waiting for another mixtape video though. I really love your music!

[@danchang9976]

I have been waiting too long for this

[@Shell1770]

You're voice is awesome mate & to gain all this knowledge about the future is incredible. Keep up the good work!

[@crash1249]

thanks a lot . Your channel keeps me updated with everything . thanks a lot buddy . Good job.

[@MaghrebProductions]

I like coldfusion !!! Please upgrade to 4K quality

[@Ray-xf5mc]

Absolute joy to watch your content sir

[@F1rstp3rson]

Everything about your Videos is perfect. I love them so much.

[@advaithpillai]

Love your work mate, keep it coming!

[@europanomics]

Thanks for the video Dagogo. Love your content. Continue what you are doing!

[@kulturamoto3302]

Wow what a rare sight to see the guy behind the voice!

[@gregfredericks5201]

Well it's 2019 and at the end of 2018 ( july30) I bought a 2018 Tesla model S 100D and the year before I installed solar on my house and I think these choices were some of the best things I could have done for me and the environment. :)

[@SamuelKupferschmid]

thank you for this video. I like the format of coldfusion!!

[@hereLiesThisTroper]

When a reporter asked Einstein what it felt like being the brightest man in the world he replied, "I don't know, I haven't asked Tesla how he feels."

[@Harlock2day]

DeadTroperSociety point being ? Are you a fan of Nikola ?

[@simetric6551]

There’s no a credible source for what you just said.

[@winomaster]

I don't think the two guys were even contemporaries. And if he's says he ment Tesla and Edison, I don't think the two men were friendly.

[@luckerooni7628]

I don't think anyone in these replies knows what a joke is.

[@siffle4249]

DeadTroperSociety this is true

[@UndeaKnight]

always love your videos, great to see an aussie smashing it :D

[@TheIronglare]

Your channel is absolutely awesome and inspiring. Not for small minded people, but I hope this generation will catch onto it fast. I have a friend who is working on another project for alternative energy options.

[@CamTracey]

Just wondering when you'll do a story on the mining of Lithium and it's effect on the environment!

[@SMC01ful]

Yes, and I am interested in alternatives to lithium.

[@rosentrantz0]

@@SMC01ful Potassium.

[@artytomparis]

Thanks. Yes very interesting. It references an old tech that goes back more than 150 years but which was built to handle much smaller quantities of energy storage and creation.

[@zachsmthsn]

You should do a comparison video to underwater air storage for energy. The concept is that the hydrostatic pressure from the water means you do not need nearly as strong as a vessel to store the air, and do not need a mountain-sized container

[@MarkAntigua]

I feel smarter every time i watch one of your vids. Keep putting out that knowledge.

[@kaitlyn__L]

i'd love to see a video from you about scotland's use of renewables - i recently learned it's one of the best in europe, having many 100% renewable use days (for residential *and* industrial) in the last few years too. scotland has a large amount of mountains and lakes and dams already, so it would be interesting to know how much they would need to be supplemented by batteries and this kind of gas pressure storage to maintain 100% renewable supply for all grid loads. scotland runs a lot of its water system through local government, which leads to unmetered use - the water charge is only an equal division of the previous year's network maintenance costs. part of the reason scotland can run the water this way is because it's one of the few countries to not have many large scale droughts in the last 10-15 years, instead often having the opposite problem, with other parts of the uk actually buying up excess water supply from scotland. scotland's disproportionately high water availability compared to neighbours is a clear parallel, in my opinion, to its disproportionately high renewable energy capacity, which leads me to hope that there may be a similar "maintenance costs only" system for electricity here, once renewables become able to provide 100% capacity all year round. the actual "fuel" could become passive, much like the water reservoirs are already.

[@amitpatelspeed]

Thanks alot for providing such valuable information 👌👌🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Djkudos14]

Very interesting concept and very fascinating.

[@SUA37]

"Feel free to subscribe" done. After watching around 3 vids, nice research and work👊

[@ColtonRDean]

So with the pilot project; 3,000m^3 pressurized at 100bar = 1kwh. That seems like an important equation to remember.

[@chairmanmeaow6379]

I would never ever have known you was black coldfusion.

[@IkarimTheCreature]

My problem with this method of saving energy is, that if you pressurise the mountain over and over again, it will start to crack and eventualy collapse. A great analogy to this is the havailand comet which suffered under the same problem, which eventualy lead to a series of crashes due to the weardown of the cabin.

[@avinash22i]

Its a good day when cold fusion and kargestage upload there videos on the same day...

[@lukej7856]

what makes this better than current pumped-storage hydroelectric technologies? it sounds like it would be more expensive and inefficient than that...

[@1barnet1]

Because there ain't enough suiteable locations for pumped hydroelectric technologies. Remember we can't live keep livestock nor farm crops on lakes.

[@joshdoeseverything4575]

seems like there would be more suitable locations for that than for digging a massive chamber in a mountain and pumping it with extremely compressed air

[@afromaximus]

I have a feeling there is a reason they have it underground that they are not explaining. Perhaps its something to do with the stability in ambient temp underground or this thermal energy storage aspect that other plants currently don't implement. The cost of boring tunnels vs building a dam would be an interesting comparison.

[@1barnet1]

LukeyPook Lakes at altitudes are already widely used to produce hydro electric power. An upcoming problem since glaciers in the alps at least are retreating which in time will drastically reduce their fresh water production.

[@eternitynaut]

The advantage is that it doesn't use (fresh) water so any mountain should do and won't depend on the presence of a lake. If the mountain is made out of unsuitable rock formations, it doesn't matter because you can reinforce the walls of the chamber and if it were to leak, it's just hot air, not a mix of chemicals.

[@avyayirde8554]

I love your work!!! Please continue these amazing work. And greetings from India! :)

[@ouisbenzartie142]

Hi cold fusion I really like ur videos they allow me to foresee the future

[@anthonyt4203]

I love how you don't sell out (:

[@shadowdance4666]

I also like storage of energy in the form of water tanks set up high. Using a chain of turbines to convert falling water into energy. Channeling excess energy into a battery to reduce waste. Energy output varies on valve

[@RishiKumarPS]

A video about Indian economy, GST, Demonetisation and etc., Could be nice as I love your research and the way you present it, anyone can understand it.

[@petedavis8701]

Very informative Vlogs, keep them coming please

[@adityaelalkar4067]

Really innovative man... I watch your videos every time u upload.. You are doing great work..

[@TheSilentjoker666]

Such amazing work Dagogo!

[@iamsyt]

Thank you, Dagogo!

[@bdxoul]

when you drop your videos it like happiness bomb for me

[@LOGICZOMBIE]

When calculating the cost, there should be a direct comparison of the total cost of maintenance and replacement of components between batteries and compressed air over the lifetime of the unit. This should also include the cost of recycling the batteries (and environmental impact of mining materials for both forms of energy storage).

[@TheKingGandy]

Pumping water up a hill to a lake using electricity from solar/wind etc and releasing it when power is needed sounds a lot simpler and easier less volatile way of doing the same. Even if you were to get say 50w back for every 100w used to get the water up, the power would be just as on demand as this. The UK has been doing this since the 80s as a response to people's obsession with TV soaps and everyone putting the kettle on after for some tea 😁 Here's one we made earlier en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinorwig_Power_Station

[@ymkenshiilv7421]

I love you videos keep up the good work 👌

[@hbarudi]

Good idea about using compressed air storage, might not even need a mountain, just a tank that can handle the pressure.

[@kerrykilgour]

Love and appreciate your videos! Cheers! 🇨🇦

[@cyberlord64]

why in mountains specifically? What us from digging into the ground at an angle?

[@MA-th4ts]

Great topic and very interesting. Thsnks

[@philnius]

I would love to see a video of yours about the potential of algaes concerning energy production and bio fuel

[@TECH2TORIALS]

It feels good to see so many people are watching this video while I am.

[@stevemin9060]

This idea is simply mind... I mean, mountain-blowing! lol But seriously, the idea might sound "weird" for someone like "normal people" to thing about, but it's really impressive! WOW!

[@adityachaurasia6082]

Damm good channel on KZbin thankyou for giving us more information...

[@TheReal_ist]

At 1:07 btw Why is the "previous episode" thing blocking the data. I'd like to see the rest of it thank you very much. In the future just move the little tags on cut screens to an open area. That doesn't block data or info. Thxs

[@RockBoss313313]

You always do great and interesting videos keep them coming keep up the good work thanks a lot

[@LiegerZ0]

The only issue i'm envisioning for mountain storage is you end up blowing up said mountain, it feels rather risky with that approach because not every mountain is structurally sound

[@iansavii4278]

Here before 1 million!??

[@fred101j7]

glory hallelujah he uploaded

[@gio048]

Another great video🍺🍺🍺

[@jmt97400]

For those that feel that a water reservoir, used for electricity storage (ie no other uses) evaporates too much water, think that you can put on these reservoirs floating solar generators that will use direct solar energy, and with a floating covering of the lake, use the pressurised hot air and watersteam to make electricity too and make steam turn back to water

[@bamm86]

Elephant in the room: Could this have been what the Pyramids of Giza were used for?

[@martins4555]

In germany one of the power-supplier has or wanted to build one of the preasure-"batteries". And rhey want so safe some of the heat in a tank with something inside... (cant remember anymore) Amazing Video by the way!

[@zachfox7771]

awesome, really cool! I thought this was gonna be about pumping water up top mountains and then hydroelectrically releasing it but this seems to have the potential of much greater ubiquity

[@anissyahromi5671]

Hollyshit,just popup right before go to bed,i can spare sometime for this

[@denysxenyev3929]

Very good idea, I've supported it for a long time, but now new type of air solution appear - cryogenic liquid air energy storage. This is further development of compressed air idea and looks like it is better than just compressed air.

[@RT-js4tz]

I know this is a couple years old and may not be monitored, but there is a much cheaper and much larger way to go. In the 1980's in an undisclosed place in Western USA, a bore hole was utilized. With the top 500' or so of casing concreted in. A nuclear explosive device was detonated at the bottom of the hole, resulting in a large cavity whose walls were melted glass. After they detonated the device, they redrilled back into the cavity and found it was able to be pressurized. It was used as a storage tank for crude oil for times of emergency need. This same operation could be used for heated compressed air, enough for several years worth of cycling power from windmills and solar farms. The small bore hole would be much cheaper than huge tunnels. It takes up much less acreage than an upper and lower water reservoirs. It is old tested technology, if it is declassified. I knew of it back then, they used an oilfield drilling rig to get deep enough to contain the blast. Geologists determined the correct location made up of the type of material that would expand and glassify to make the hollow area into a sealed vessel.

[@eroelser]

how can i find out more about this?

[@RT-js4tz]

@@eroelser very carefully read wikipedias article on "underground nuclear weapons testing. It refers to the sealed area, by heat, it refers to drilling back into the created vessel, types of soil, depths for optimum vessel creation. While some details are missing, like how well it gets sealed, the size of vessel created vs. Kiloton of the explosive device in different types of soils. While it mentions how to release the radioactive gasses into the atmosphere, they don't speak of the rate of dispersions or time to purge the created vessel per metric cubic meter of diameter. The information seems to be out there, but it takes some digging to find. For this reason, I think that it is no longer classified.

[@DunnickFayuro]

Reminds me of these people trying to do quite the same idea, but using giant "balloons" very deep in the ocean. They fill it with air and the sole pressure at the bottom of the sea is enough to force the air out when needed.

[@brianevans4]

You make very interesting videos. Please make some more on block chain technology cause that's really interesting as it's growing so fast

[@kristenburnout1]

It would be interesting to see this compared to pumping hydroelectric plant, which also works as a mechanical battery.

[@LOGICZOMBIE]

Thank you for your contribution.

[@Jiga1]

Oh My God, this guy is defintely "ticinese"! I can hear it from his accent. I had absolutely no idea that just 20 km away from my home such a genius was experimenting this technology! Great! Thank you Dagogo! - Representing Ticino :)

[@SuperSmellyBob]

Beautiful video.

[@dragmit]

Compressed air has much in common with natural gas, minus the cost and pollution. It can be piped over very long distances without friction losses. But we do not need to bury these lines if they contain air, as damage does not threaten human life. Keeping pressures low allows for less compression heat losses. However, using compressed air turbines has many losses. You can eliminate those losses by inserting that air under water, then catching the bubble into a pocket on a conveyor, and out putting that displacement energy into a generator. Easily computer controlled, and only deals with enough pressure to overcome the lower level water pressure.

[@brandonstolz6283]

You missed the project in Toronto storing compressed air under Lake Ontario!

[@willybillybowcatwalkcow5213]

Virtual energy plants will be an interesting topic. Trailstone is an interesting company.