[ENG] AfreecaTV StarLeague(ASL) S10 Ro.16 Day4

[ENG] AfreecaTV StarLeague(ASL) S10 Ro.16 Day4
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[@chicodamaster]

"He has to tech to guardians to get the zealot.' 😂😂😂💀💀💀I'm done, had me dying.

[@sauldeleon4522]

28:45 soma vs Mini 55:37 Shuttle vs SoulKey 1:17:03 Winners' set 1 1:31:36 Winners' set 2 1:46:20 Winners' set 3 1:58:46 Losers' set 1 2:20:40 Losers' set 2 2:43:50 Losers' set 3 3:05:21 Final set 1 3:22:36 Final set 2 3:34:20 Final set 3

[@iusgaming]

Merci.

[@goodisgood153]

Thank you for this !

[@3rdworldvictimyouvebeenlie817]

Thx!

[@sethiddings7293]

Your forgot 8:02 "Cock cock cock cock cock" great song XD

[@kd2409]

I LOVE THIS GAME!

[@Slaphappy1975]

HELL YEAHS!

[@raduantoniu]

"soma" is the name of the drug people were taking in Brave New World. It's also the name of the neuron cell body.

[@jacobunderwood4957]

It's also a psychological thriller game about (spoiler alert!) an AI that saves the consciousness of the last dying person in a science facility to download them into robots and keep trying to save the facility, to give the AI a chance to 'live'.

[@ellmunzai]

"soma" is simply Greek for "body".

[@daniels1597]

Soma originally was a drink of unknown contents (possibly cannabis) that was consumed ritualistically by Vedic cultures.

[@CanariasCanariass]

@@daniels1597 Yes, it could have been some psychedelic stuff such as psilocybin as well.

[@JerseySlayer]

Take a screenshot, five smart comments in a row above ^ ^ ^ KZbin record.

[@vladimirgorov4986]

come for starcraft stay for the cast

[@user-ro2nn7lt3r]

both

[@ericlandon950]

ASL make 2020 bearable

[@GrandBenja]

I don't see any problem with 2020.

[@evantaylor2883]

@@GrandBenja then you are delusional my good sir xD

[@pjv9361]

Scouts more!

[@7thquark309]

That's actually the only reason I'd approve a patch for BW. Something like -50/50 cost, +3 damage ground, -4 damage air Well, that, and a Ghost update...

[@TheHeroLoto]

Great job Tastosis! Great casting, great matches. Love to see it.

[@user-qz4wk5tv4z]

ㄹㅈ5555ㅡ555ㅏ99ㅡㅑ😅

[@user-qz4wk5tv4z]

55555555⑤5

[@user-qz4wk5tv4z]

😂55⑤55😊

[@samyazzam4517]

I love ❤️ BroodWar. I love SOMA. Gimme Soma that SOMA

[@user-zx5iv5tb5e]

New build trend maker Soma

[@jacobunderwood4957]

Don't go down there unless you're a quick reader. We got some novelists watching ASL today.

[@jacobunderwood4957]

@Collins Rath Yes, please. I'll take 2.

[@nimblesheepvenomous3811]

Especially that guy who went on a rant about covid and bad cities

[@AleksandarProkopec]

Tech into guardians to get the zealot out, hahaha :_D good one. Or, you're the ogre-zerg gamer, you build a few infested Terrans and hit that Zealot with 500 damage to get him out of the mineral line.

[@MrGouldilocks]

Great point from tasteless about getting dark archons to maelstrom the mutalisks. I've only seen it done a couple times but each time I've seen it it annihilates an entire control group of mutalisks within seconds. Zerg looks a bit overpowered against protoss sometimes, but it seems like a lot of these protoss just don't use the tools available to them. Protoss players will consistently lose virtually every single high Templar they build to mutalisks and do absolutely nothing to counter it for an entire series. If they're going to make HT the entire game, it seems stupid and stubborn to not to mix in a couple dark archons to shut down the mutalisk snipes; they can also feedback defilers. They aren't even all that expensive , the Maelstrom upgrade is 100/100, and a dark archon is only 50 more gas than a high Templar. The bullheadedness is right up there with only having one or two observers against a Zerg player with lurkers, and losing when they get sniped.

[@abstractdaddy1384]

I completely agree. It works so well too that if it became the meta I would imagine Zergs wouldn't even bother making mutas. Just the threat alone of killing a control group of mutas virtually for free would be too much. Additionally they would have other uses too. As you said, they can snipe defilers with feedback (which seems even better than irradiate at that job) and I've been wondering if maelstrom would be worth it against mass hydra. It seems like it would but I could be wrong.

[@GrandBenja]

@@abstractdaddy1384 Maelstrom would indeed work well against Hydralisks. It's the same idea as against Mutalisks : Maelstrom into storm. I'm always surprised Protoss players don't use the Dark Archon more. It's a really strong unit. Perhaps it would be hard to use in reaction to Mutalisk because of the time it takes to research Maelstrom. You need anti-air now, when your templars are getting sniped, not one minute and a half later. But even then, the Dark Archon is good enough to fit in any PvZ scenario, so you could always build a couple of them as part of your standard army composition.

[@mattetis]

He literally talks about dark archons every game

[@GrandBenja]

@@mattetis Well, why not? Some people are passionate about video games. Some are passionate about one specific game, like Starcraft. If this guy's passion is one specific Starcraft unit, you know, whatever floats his boat. ^^

[@mattetis]

@@GrandBenja The silly one here isn't Tasteless, it's Casey Gould

[@AyayaFan]

amazing gameplay of Soma, truly amazing!!!

[@UncontrolleDperson]

This season of ASL!!! I have no words!!! GREAT!!!

[@7thquark309]

I'm with Tasteless on this one, I also want to see Flash RvT, even if it's too easy for him. Let's keep RvZ for the next rounds

[@henryh.448]

@2:43:50 Wow they got a 1-minute break....after that huge epic game of 21 minutes. I cannot even imagine the clickpower needed for that game, and they only gave them a 1-minute break? I would need 5 or 10 minutes to rest my hands and maybe walk around some.

[@MJ.Actual]

you ever noticed flash rushes to bathroom between everygame? walk it off snort some blow nah mean?

[@quinton1630]

Tastosis’ casting reminds me of Halo devs talking about Martin O'Donnell being responsible for one third of the game. You have this entire tournament setup, players, directors, audio/video people, then you have two guys and an observer responsible for easily over a third of the presentation.

[@maximilianw9671]

It is impossible to find any ASL video where people are not praising tastosis' casting. I always think like "hey they are AMAZING, lets share that in the comments", but then I scroll down and find that hundreds of people already did it :D

[@silvercrystalct]

Looking forward to watching this, just wish the first comment I saw before switching to full screen didn’t tell me the results.

[@Chromeshell]

Soulkey Mini series was incredible

[@odoacredacalcutta5085]

pretty sure Rush is the easiest pairing Flash could get. I don't see him winning against any of the 4 z in here. Also Z is the race that suffer going against random the least

[@GrandBenja]

That's true. As opposed to Terran/Protoss, Zerg can go for standard openings that may transition safely into a normal game regardless of the race Flash gets. Zerg don't have dilemmas such as walling, or early gas vs expanding: they can do the same opening against any race.

[@BobfromSydney]

I suppose the main difference is the various types of dirty cheese that will be available in at the start of the game e.g. bunker rush, proxy gate, quick pool etc. Give Flash options to catch Zerg off guard. Note the ZvZ openings are 9 pool, 12 pool or 12 hatch (sometimes Over-pool too) and apart from 12-hatch these are inferior against standard macro openings from T or P

[@Poncherello777]

Dan “Vultures on the Map” Stemkoski

[@DreadGaze]

outstanding!

[@andrewcox8807]

2nd game, SouKey vs Mini, trust me this game is worth your time.

[@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709]

Tasteless speaking truth: the defiler is only as good as it's support and it works against own units the same way as it does against the enemies. The defiler will never kill a unit on it's own. It's tier III and needs a ton of research. Vulture is a tier 1 unit basicly free, is the fastest unit in the game, does a ton of damage, does detection and damage pretty much anywhere on the map. High dps and speed. If u play terran units right you win 100%. Dark Templar has the highest ground unit DPS. It's DPS is equal to the Ultra on units without Armor. With armor the Dark Templars DPS is even higher.

[@SmokerFace12]

Lol Soulkey Bnet name NeedMoney[LMAO] 55:30

[@ghtjdrla]

he got cheated in business in the last year. nothing left without debt 😰

[@Yusuf-ok5rk]

@@ghtjdrla bruh do all these starcraft pro players get cheated on business stuff? squidgame is real.

[@KuraiChanZ]

Anyone else wonder why some Koreans watch this stream and not just watch it on AfreecaTV? Do they just like the YT player more? Use to watch some VoDs a long while back on YT instead of Twitch because the liked the YT player better.

[@ghtjdrla]

you asking question that you already know the answer to! AfreecaTV require heavy resource cause their player force grid-computing. and as you know yt player have better function

[@KuraiChanZ]

@@ghtjdrla Just guessed lol. Yeah, same thing with Twitch. Thanks for confirming.

[@jamesrobbins3117]

Brutal, thanks Arty, I totally agree with your comment regarding Clown World.

[@logicallord3238]

Good luck for Best, love Queen so much though.

[@zackray1240]

I look forward to this season's finals, I think that the protoss has a real shot at winning this year. I mean we have best and snow, they're both really good players, I think that the best shot we have though is with the greatest protoss of the tournament, Flash

[@El_Chompo]

"Corsairs: The more you get, The more of a threat, the mutas are not, I should say." - Tasteless 1:24:53

[@ckgaming168]

❤best sharing my friend stay connect

[@alichinogaming6089]

1:00:00 Zealot is like: "Damn you, Gateway!" Bang bang!

[@SpaceMcDarky]

Nice catch. I love it when the comments take me to funny moments like this.

[@zatnikutel635]

someone can give a link about the game where soma did something to bisu ? i hate when tastosis talking about a game but gives zero direction for finding it.

[@uBenji1234]

What is the first song? Anyone please?

[@christianpearse4107]

Love this game, have to say that it's way superior to SC2 from a strategy standpoint.

[@HorizonHipHop]

yeah SC2 was better when it first came out I think, can't stand how it plays anymore seems poorly balanced and too fast (some games end in 2-5 minutes lol)

[@dj_koen1265]

Sc2 was not as good when it first came out as it has been for the last few years imo

[@slbjjk]

not enough lurkers!? hes sick! 2:17:17

[@snuzzy4984]

Name of the song after the first game?

[@walmansa]

Damn Tasteless is well-read dropping references to Brave New World and shiet

[@harizotoh7]

It's a high school required book.

[@xxxx85]

Guys! Remember to like, comment and subscribe! We need to KEEP ASL RUNNING! :D

[@adamdziubich4748]

this game is + 3 and we watching all the time for 30 min early game xD

[@3rdworldvictimyouvebeenlie817]

Nothing cooler than overwhelming amounts of Zerg :-D

[@IntoTheClouds7]

Haha artosis at the end says some wild shit about championship caliber haha

[@detrockcity3]

2:51:28 there's no way he didn't make those mutas before killing the corsair, right?

[@taylorjensen2787]

Soma is the drug they take in a Brave New World. Soma is also a real drug, a muscle relaxant, a powerful one. They hardly prescribe it anymore. Soma means "body" i believe in greek.

[@WatsonatorSC2]

Lol i love Tasteless but twice he said Soulkey did a 9/9 hatch/pool and one time it was 11/10 and one time it was just the standard 12/11, what are you talking about good sir?

[@muffinspuffinsEE]

SOMA is the thing from the novel, Artosis is wrong !

[@MundaneDave]

Man, group C and D have been stressful for every player. I do like Artosis being the enthusiastic observer. No Terran = ???

[@ericpotts6311]

SC BW Forever!!! For Ev Er!!!!

[@MrTheQuestioner]

Thankfully the Dark Templar was wrong and we got more than 14 seasons of ASL

[@za1728]

56:25 did you just call shuttle dumb? Was it on purpose?

[@benjaminwaitukaitis1138]

Tasteless is right. Soma is from the book 1984.

[@nfcheeze]

So glad Tasteless is aware of soma from a brave new world. :)

[@joeo6378]

T: lots of wiggling going on here A: especially for me (Complete silence for 5 FULL seconds) That was a moment right there.

[@alichinogaming6089]

Why do Protoss pros never (or barely ever?) use Disruption Web on the Corsair? Is it deemed a weak ability?

[@Galacsia]

The problem with Disruption Web is that it is too costly to tech up to it and research it and it also costs too much energy for Corsairs to use it.

[@CanariasCanariass]

It's a very strong spell, it might be used more often in future but it's expensive to build the fleet beacon and upgrade

[@istolankinen3482]

If going heavy on corsairs it also enables +2 and +3 attack upgrades. +3 upgrade with web and energy upgrade makes them strong, most of them should also have 200 energy when disruption web comes available. The attack upgrade is especially strong as it upgrades splash damage with high rate of fire and low base damage. This depends do you intend having lots of them but making 2 starports is a heavy investment. All of the units and upgrades in this game have utility when used correctly and disruption web have indeed made by the developers to counter balance lurkers as both of them are brood war units that come with the add on. Having enough corsairs on upgrades, disabling spore colonies and hydras, shooting overlords within seconds (3 shot overlords, 2 shot mutas in area damage) how can zerg ever come out of supply block ? Having Devourers which is at disadvantage with no upgrades against +attack on corsairs.

[@adamdziubich4748]

mini goog

[@adamdziubich4748]

iam agrrred with you tasisi

[@thebmi1983]

when play Flash?!?!

[@jaytherey]

He already played, it's the day before this one

[@GrandBenja]

Larva is so unlucky. He gets matched against a Zerg in ro8 again. Out of the 4 opponents he could have drawn, he would have been fine with any except for Soulkey. It was a 1/4 chance.

[@filoflin5345]

For me he is still a solid favourite.60/40 Larva.Hope he makes it.Its just more entertaining when he plays.

[@CanariasCanariass]

Larva'sZvZ is really solid. Good chance of winning.

[@mintrasomsay5772]

Would not have been fine against Rush

[@filoflin5345]

yeah protoss today was definetely not on top of his game but soma really made this look very very easy

[@MrGouldilocks]

It seems like protoss kind of struggles against Zerg. But I also can't help but think protoss players could do a lot better if they built dark archons to counter mutas, reavers to counter hydralisks, and observers to counter lurkers. Every protoss just build dragoons, zealots, and High Templar, and then gets owned by some combination of hydra, muta, and lurker

[@GrandBenja]

We'll see how easy he makes it look against Snow. Snow will be a tougher customer. :)

[@jamesrobbins3117]

YES BOI MINI-STROM!!! Nah MINI -STORM actually BIG STORM. TAKE EM DOWN BOI! GET EM!

[@naczelnypsycholog6296]

unlucky - I would like to see Flash vs Soma in the final

[@Oblivionm24]

We may have Flash vs Queen! Queen is also a monster.

[@adamdziubich4748]

micro from soulkay with this mutas is insane

[@cryptorage7206]

3:21:20 Captain I NEED that song name pls!

[@7thquark309]

Primal Fear - Afterlife *flies away*

[@cryptorage7206]

@@7thquark309 Thank you cap.

[@Lauraraksin77]

Man. I wish they had merch for the players, I would love to rock those jackets.

[@CanariasCanariass]

True, they look cool

[@adamdziubich4748]

best in this was soulkay killem all gas and he manage to 300g for dark archon

[@jpthefisherman]

Tasteless was right above Brave New World. Artosis was r/confindentlyincorrect

[@dj_koen1265]

That mealstrom thoughat 2:42

[@dj_koen1265]

Also #Vulture>defiler

[@csucskos]

A few comments: You can't go just all hydra, because then protoss can supplyblock you for days. (In the context they were talking about. Yes, it's true you can go all hydra and defend that way, in some circumstances, but not when protoss has that quick corsairs) At that point there was no way Soulkey could have had the money to research overlord speed, drop and lurkers, while making that amount of mutas. You CAN put a spire under a cocoon, but it's so high, its top pokes out, so it's visible. Not big things, but I thought some might wonder.

[@GrandBenja]

Perhaps you should add timestamps to your text, so that we may have an idea what you are talking about. For example, when you say "at that point", no one is going to guess what point you are talking about.

[@csucskos]

​@@GrandBenja Are you kidding me?! It makes total sense if you've watched the games! What do you want from me?! Go through the 4 hours of video again? Oh well, the things I do. XD Hydra: 2:25:45 Drop: 3:18:25 Spire: 3:29:15

[@GrandBenja]

@@csucskos 9 ZvP games were played in total today. Of course no one is going to guess what specific game you were talking about with a vague comment like "you can't go just all hydra". Good, thank you. :)

[@kmjxpyzbizhat3393]

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[@Hatchumosc1]

Is d web a bad idea to break that ridiculous lurker contain? He had the corsairs already...

[@Galacsia]

The problem with d-web is that you spend to much money to tech to it and research it, it takes too much energy to cast (and you need a lot of them for how many lurkers there were), and they also stiffle your own army so you can't take a good battle in that position. Mini wasn't doing too bad with the Reavers but the problem was that he had multiple Reaver drops fail, they didn't do enough damage and Soulkey had a better economy.

[@7thquark309]

@@Galacsia Honestly, if you went Corsairs, they probably all have 200 energy banked, and the upgrade is only 200/200 IIRC. And you're pretty assured to break the siege. And if you only kill 2 lurkers thanks to it, it's already paid for itself. So I would tend to agree with HatchumoSC1.

[@byronmiller3877]

Does anyone know what happened to Rain?

[@ghtjdrla]

He quit sc1 cause he doesnt have much profit or fun compared to get stressed when he loses the game. He is already a vip customer at the bank and has a lot of winning experience, so he doesnt seems like motivated to try hard anymore. Now he is basically a streamer, not a professional player, so he once said that the atmosphere of relying on fans' crowdfunding for his income is burdensome

[@CanariasCanariass]

@@ghtjdrla Thanks for the detailed info! Can you tell me what happened to Last? He used to be the second best Terran after Flash but then he just disappeared. Is he in the military??

[@ghtjdrla]

@@CanariasCanariass He will be in military service, but that doesnt mean he wont be in asl. He still has wrist problem, making it difficult to join asl. He still streams sc1, but play with non-progamer for enjoys light games. And his dessert cafes are expanding its branches so there seems to be no reason to try hard anymore for money

[@MJ.Actual]

lmao wonder if that eric kid that was claiming zergs not op is watching.

[@twinesper]

Great game 4. Good game 5. Game 1 wasn't bad either.

[@adamdziubich4748]

he hide shuttle aggainst mmutas taht s sick

[@adamdziubich4748]

and hes killing gas probes xD

[@Virtua..]

mini new ogre protoss

[@adamdziubich4748]

archon cannot deal with hes mikro

[@Virtua..]

why dont protoss players put templar in shuttles

[@filoflin5345]

it is forbidden in asl otherwise they disqualify the scammers

[@fukcingweeabos3167]

Algorithm tuning comment

[@theeraphatsunthornwit6266]

You cant know who win by looking at their face😄

[@ChiefDoggingfood]

WE DREW THE TEETH FIRST

[@ltsmx]

**SPOILER ALERT** i really dont understand why protoss players don't use Dark Archons more. i know its micro heavy and quite expensive but watching game after game of mutas destroying HTs confounds me. theo ne time mini used it he closed the game against soulkey.

[@7thquark309]

ikr, it costs 2HT in gas, including the upgrade plus the DA is not targeted by the AI, so it often survives the battles, and it's useful even against Hydras Best does use it a lot.

[@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709]

Oh no! Stargirl fell on her knee :(

[@MatsNorway]

Dragoons so weak.

[@sinfonia11]

My girlfriend: "Why don't they ALWAYS get Scouts to scout?"

[@adamdziubich4748]

turtle protoss

[@adamdziubich4748]

that was anything what he just could do malestorm and mini so good

[@jon1805]

that soma/shuttle zvp was a masterclass... jesus

[@allydea]

3:39:49 Zzz Flash.

[@leeloodallasmultibox6172]

gl hf

[@ToguroCrypto]

2:56:23

[@zanartofwar7892]

Lol, mini throwing his early advantage by trading 16 zealots for an evo chamber and 2-3 ground units. What was that? Mix 1 archon with the zealots and bam, they don't die to muta and u can bust Zerg, but who to think of that its so hard to, lol

[@dgasgsdgsdgsdgsa203]

Someone did that and all sunkens targeted archon and bam with mutas...

[@zanartofwar7892]

@@dgasgsdgsdgsdgsa203 you mean that 1 or 2 sunken? mini had map control zerg couldnt do shit.

[@dgasgsdgsdgsdgsa203]

@@zanartofwar7892 I am not saying you re wrong in this particular game ..just saying it doesnt apply to all games..

[@yeetbra9485]

Sc2: "zerg's the best in my game" Sc1: "hold my hydralisk"

[@jacobunderwood4957]

Terrans still have more major tournament wins overall across SC2's history. Zerg just surpassed Protoss' major tourney wins like a year ago.

[@yeetbra9485]

@@jacobunderwood4957 it was a joke man, I was taking the piss at how everyone whines about zerg being op in sc2, I don't think either game is particularly imbalanced for the record.

[@erichall090909]

MELEESTORM

[@adamdziubich4748]

my best mu watcvhing playing zerg vs protoss

[@user-no6hk8ik6n]

the girl is the only thing worth time during the interviews. its like her own channel.

[@adamdziubich4748]

1 bad think about this bulid zerg can contain fck

[@bayasgalantsogtgerel3346]

my god what is wrong with you and all these comments? nobody understands what you're saying

[@jamesrobbins3117]

ROFL ROFL ROFL, second game started... Look at these trolls, BLIZZZARD WHY U GET B-Class Gamers

[@adamdziubich4748]

soulkay cab you loos ?