[ENG] AfreecaTV StarLeague(ASL) S16 Ro.16 Group B (Tastosis)

[ENG] AfreecaTV StarLeague(ASL) S16 Ro.16 Group B (Tastosis)
Ro.16 Group B: Mind, Killer, Mini, Rush

[@jstockton100]

"mini hits half the shots uphill, not misses" optimism one of lifes freeroll Artosis you are a legend

[@LiquidRR]

I thought I was watching StarCraft unremastered last night 😂 ty for the reupload!

[@stefanc4520]

Why can't SCV's attack air if they can repair floating buildings?

[@HasekuraIsuna]

_[X-files theme]_

[@shaggyfeng9110]

Because the air unit allows itself to be repaired, lol

[@utarian7]

🤯

[@SaltyMyke]

Obviously they climb little ladders to repair flying buildings.

[@dungeonmaster6292]

I always look at this game as an abstraction

[@anonymousAJ]

14:00 English commentary 19:00 Mind (T) vs Killer (Z) 43:30 Mini (P) vs Rush (T) 1:04:49 Winners 2:05:23 Losers 2:26:34 Final

[@eurapeon]

I was wondering why it was still at 360p even after I woke up (I'm too old for all nighters even for StarCraft 😅). So glad AfreecaTV noticed the problem and gave us a re-up 😊

[@jacobkarlin6147]

My understanding is that it uploads at the lowest possible graphics and then automatically reuploads the rest of the data

[@oncedidactic]

Tasteless's laugh after the FATALITY is pure joy lol, such a great moment

[@MeteCanKarahasan]

It was the best Ro24 game by a mile.

[@scottc9151]

Around 16:24 where Today’s match up graphic is shown - all the player text down below is about the group A participants.

[@InfernalHaze]

Ah yes, my favorite tactic - the OOGA BOOGA move

[@nanthilrodriguez]

This is the best round of the ASL I've seen all day!

[@ajrids7108]

Just stumbled on your channel, and thank God for all your castings, been searching for sc and sc2 channels. I'm a fan of the game and love your videos.

[@AdamVsEverything]

Ah, there we go. The 1080 processing. I hate when YT never processes past 360 :P

[@dsm2k1]

Oh wow didnt expect to see you here but kinda makes sense with the micro you do.

[@julkiewicz]

It's like when Arty sends an SCV to build a depo and it doesn't build

[@AdamVsEverything]

@@dsm2k1 Yeah, used to play BW a ton back in the day. Even in some of the same channels/clan wars etc as Tasteless and company. Stopped way before them, though, but never stopped watching.

[@pinroshan020]

I wish this was 4k 60fps video. 🤧

[@snaffu1]

Heyyy! Awesome to see you here! Catching up on ASL and then back to some Rimworld VODs! 👍

[@drewosterhout4035]

Aww yeah woke up just in time for the HD glow up!

[@saimorgestern831]

Love hearing your voices and insight. Thanks 4 all you do, guys. Truly. So much for the SC community! ❤❤❤

[@christopherho7856]

Oooh. Get to be one of the early posters thanks to the re-upload. Amazing games, amazing casting. StarCraft and Tastetosis, a perfect combo for a relaxing weekend. Keep up the great work!

[@dragonsdynamite6403]

Lucky you, something to tell your grandkids about

[@Handle35667]

I’m 7 days “late” and this is early for me…but I’m successful so your results may very.

[@ollantaymedina2204]

2:20:13 Probe builds assimilator, which actually makes the gas smaller. The probe can now pass between the pylon and the warping assimilator. Cancel the assimilator to reseal the cannon.

[@Brozef]

2:22:54 they spot it in the replay

[@peterhone9763]

That actually makes a lot of sense.

[@noblehelium3794]

There was a different map that highlighted this by having preplaced neutral assimilators on the map that would allow units to pass through. Players could destroy the assimilators to revert them to geysers to prevent the movement.

[@Zraknul]

@@noblehelium3794 Nemesis is the map you're mentioning. And you're right that's probably in part what drilled it home to think about using that.

[@earthbind83]

@@Brozef Thanks, I was wondering if they'd figure it out, but by the time the match was over I forgot and skipped ahead. Also good to know about the size change, because while I saw what happened I assumed it worked the same as with the glitch, i.e. I assumed the assimilator was bigger than the geyser (because of course a building on a geyser is bigger than the geyser).

[@brav0wing]

That's more like it! 1080p60hd

[@smmmma]

1:35:00 the discussion that starts around here re: age/skill/reaction time is great. In particular, listen to this while keeping in mind Killer's competitive age juxtaposed with his micro against Rush in G1

[@Materialist39]

what’s cool is that like, if you take care of yourself even decently, physical decline is a very gradual decline. It’s real and cannot be stopped but you can set yourself up to glide rather than plummet Mental decline (again if you take decent care of yourself and are reasonably lucky with health) is like a borderline plateau until very old age where it drops off quick What I’m saying is that starcraft favors experience, discipline, consistency and focused time, there will be people over 40 winning championships because they have those qualities

[@oncedidactic]

Would be cool to hear more discussion about this

[@diegomaradona3561]

4 Wraiths vs 3 Valkyries at 01:25:20

[@MatthewSmith-rv2jw]

Excellent games. Something funny about hearing Tasteless say that for a nexus first, doing 2 gate is the best way to "cover your bases". 3:10:10. I always like when a non-literal expression finally makes it back home to its original meaning.

[@Astricklin14]

My brother that idiom comes from the game of baseball

[@Tobbe628]

360p gang where ya'll at?

[@MoonyD911]

Thank you Mini for keeping the Protoss hope alive. Him and Bisu are going to be the only Protoss hope left in this tournament really.

[@yyyy-uv3po]

Well for now it's a perfect racial distribution ^^

[@utarian7]

Best made semis last season. He's unlikely but still a contender. (Last season) we saw great ZvP with him using Dark Archon devastatingly. And his PvT is brutal.

[@citizenofterra]

@@utarian7 Indeed, never count Best out. When he plays well, he REALLY plays well

[@yyyy-uv3po]

Thanks for re-posting!

[@shaggyfeng9110]

what happened?

[@yyyy-uv3po]

@@shaggyfeng9110 the initial video was stuck in 360p

[@shaggyfeng9110]

@@yyyy-uv3po thx

[@BreakTheIce222]

HD glow up doesn't disappoint

[@julkiewicz]

It's the Remastered version

[@ollantaymedina2204]

Mini is relentless. He has no brakes. Sometimes that is his downfall.

[@SmokerFace12]

He's my favorite, im reading your comment without having watched, but this sounds promising

[@HasekuraIsuna]

I don't remember who of them said it, but they said Mini is like all ladder-Protosses combined in one, with all of the cheese but also all of the skills.

[@SmokerFace12]

@@HasekuraIsuna Can already tell Artosis said this 😂💪

[@paulhamtorlia3039]

@@HasekuraIsuna To me, I see him as the ultimate Protoss.

[@utarian7]

Two expos ahead and facing a 2 base all in, still sacs reavers and templar. Sheesh, mini! What were you thinking

[@SuperFriendBFG]

La Campanella sounds like what Tasteless would call his restaurant if he owned one.

[@NinjaBoy606]

17:04 the descriptions of each player is for group A’s players lol

[@zanethurman6330]

Mini took forever to gg out of the 2nd game with Mind because he wanted to piss him off. Mind knew he had already won the game, so Mini drew it out so he could start thinking about the next game and also frustrate Mind and stop him from thinking clearly. Pretty smart, but also super annoying.

[@arbootieoaks]

Mini got that dawg in him

[@utarian7]

Psychological warfare.

[@mrbluemancheese]

couldn't watch: Now I can:

[@tohothewriter8002]

That final match reminds me of the series where flash went 14 CC EVERY SINGLE GAME for the win, when it was considered to be a terrible opener against Protoss. I think Mini channeled his inner 14CC Flash with that Nexus first build. Kind of want to watch the early seasons again now. 🤣 Truely fun games to watch!finals

[@olegsbornov3552]

Long have I waited...

[@CashMoneyMoore]

It just ain't the same without 360p

[@XFoX90]

just select it lemao ?

[@SplashJohn]

@@XFoX90 Nope, voluntary 360p just ain't the same. 😉

[@vincechilt]

Loving this

[@albert4860]

Mini's smirk at 2:26:33 kills me. He knows he got away with murder with that previous game.

[@utarian7]

Psychological warfare haha

[@SirWtfcharles]

Nice! Finally working!

[@wilz3346]

Ty

[@Rbrxrbrx]

Final game reminds me of the wise words of Day9: If your opponent is doing something weird, just go kill him.

[@HasekuraIsuna]

*[SPOILERS]* Post-games season 16 map statistics *[MATCH-UPS]* TvZ 7-6 (avg. time 14:03, T wins at 14:48, Z wins at 13:12) ZvP 6-3 (avg. time 13:10, Z wins at 15:44, P wins at 08:04) PvT 6-7 (avg. time 15:07, P wins at 12:40, T wins at 17:13) TvT 5 (avg. time 14:59) ZvZ 7 (avg. time 09:51) PvP 2 (avg. time 12:58) Overall avg. time 13:38 *[GAMES]* Longest: free vs EffOrt on Tempest (35:29) Shortest: soma vs Calm on Apocalypse (03:20) *[SPAWN LOCATION]* Top (10-3 o'clock) 20-21 ~ 49% Bottom (4-9 o'clock) 28-28 ~ 50% Left (1-6 o'clock) 27-23 ~ 54% Right (7-12 o'clock) 21-26 ~ 45% Against clockwise opponent 13-12 ~ 45% *[MAP BANS]* Invader 4 La Campanella 3 Neo Dark Origin 2 Tempest 2 Polypoid 1 *[MAPS]* *Apocalypse* 16 games, avg. time 13:04 TvZ 3-2 (avg. time 12:53) ZvP 1-1 (avg. time 13:48) PvT 3-1 (avg. time 12:01) TvT 1 (avg. time 21:06) ZvZ 3 (avg. time 10:29) PvP 1 (avg. time 16:29) *Invader* 5 games, avg. time 14:22 ZvP 2-0 (avg. time 12:57) PvT 1-0 (avg. time 10:46) TvT 1 (avg. time 21:34) ZvZ 1 (avg. time 13:37) *La Campanella* 6 games, avg. time 18:16 TvZ 1-1 (avg. time 20:26) ZvP 1-0 (avg. time 35:29) TvT 2 (avg. time 12:31) ZvZ 1 (avg. time 08:14) *Neo Dark Origin* 2 games, avg. time 18:40 TvZ 0-1 (avg. time 13:52) PvT 1-0 (avg. time 23:28) *Polypoid* 5 games, avg. time 08:31 ZvP 0-1 (avg. time 03:50) PvT 1-0 (avg. time 14:22) TvT 1 (avg. time 07:12) ZvZ 1 (avg. time 07:42) PvP 1 (avg. time 09:27) *Retro* 8 games, avg. time 13:13 TvZ 2-1 (avg. time 16:53) ZvP 1-0 (avg. time 07:37) PvT 0-3 (avg. time 13:09) ZvZ 1 (avg. time 08:00) *Tempest* 7 games, avg. time 13:04 TvZ 1-1 (avg. time 06:27) ZvP 1-1 (avg. time 09:04) PvT 0-3 (avg. time 20:09) *[Comments]* - Mini now has most wins this season, with a 6-3 score. Rush and effOrt have a 5-1 score. Mini is also the only player to win on Invader spawning bottom. - Mini vs Killer on Polypoid becomes the second quickest game this season at 03:50. - Fighting against a clockwise opponent on Retro isn't good, it's record is 0-3. - Tempest was banned by both Terran players in the mirror match, Artosis seems to be correct in his assessment that it is terrible for the match-up. - We have now 5 games on Polypoid up from 2. All matches are in different match-ups, TvZ is still unplayed this season. Though a macro map, only the PvT has gone past 10 minutes and it is by far the shortest on average map. (08:31 vs Apocalypse/Tempest at 13:04). - Protoss can't win against Terran at neither Retro nor Tempest, the match-up is 0-3 on both! With Retro being the opening map, will this spell disaster for Best in group D when he faces off against Sharp? Bisu in group C perhaps shouldn't be too confident either, the map is 0-1 against Zerg!

[@sebdeef1086]

Are you serious? Thanks for those stats thats amazing!

[@HasekuraIsuna]

@@sebdeef1086 I did this back in season 12, but I stopped watching for a couple of seasons. (I just caught up when this season started) I do this for every video, but as they are mostly uploaded when during my working hours I'm usually late to the party. I'm working on refining the stats, format and get the data for other seasons in there as well, but it will unfortunately take time.

[@dragonsdynamite6403]

@@HasekuraIsunaIm grateful for your thorough effort. Please help yourself to two slices of cake, kettle just boiled

[@M_Farias]

GOAT

[@bencheevers6693]

Stoked my two favorite players got out and there's a great side effect which means they won't face each other in Ro8 and a higher chance they won't see each other in ro4 I think because they can't be in the same ro8 means there's a 66% chance they'll be on opposite sides of the bracket from each other. If this is a repeat of the finals I'd be so happy.

[@shaggyfeng9110]

It is crazy how light, queen, snow got eliminated in ro24

[@utarian7]

Rain... Soma... @@shaggyfeng9110

[@denesolah1328]

@@shaggyfeng9110and rain, now bisu and best also out of the ro16 only 1 protoss remaining😭

[@InsaneMetalSoldier]

Killer looks like a how you would think a zerg player looks

[@shaggyfeng9110]

He looks so cute like a baby Zergling

[@dancydance]

SPOILER: - on youtube skipping a certain match up is the "most replayed" part of the video, haha.

[@Laserchicken88]

If you don't get up there, you don't get up there. very true!

[@dimayurchenko4859]

Girl from Penza? Пенза? Great to see someone from so far away :)

[@utarian7]

Mini employing psychological warfare against mind in set 2 of final match

[@daymonklotz]

armor applies twice under heal. again that longmine gas from group a for mass zerg air was so it

[@daymonklotz]

the atk+ then also applies longer. can meatwall on pure def if glasscannon elsewhere eg +off on mech or air. all in off no def can have better timing n penetration payoffs too. situ dependent 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@11_Hashtagged_11]

Protoss dream baby!!!!! LETS GO

[@Eliteownage]

love you too

[@engerlandt]

Whats the song that plays before each game?

[@user-xy6ts9yq3g]

отлично ,но куда делась наша любимая карта 76?

[@zimmerman1031]

Mini really needs to clip his finger nails. I swear they're always long every time I see him.

[@elidhx6635]

he's developing Zealot blades

[@Tmr2010]

Adderall be keepin ya on point

[@mohastgridlock]

Reupload saved my life

[@dragonsdynamite6403]

I was under the impression micro is essential to a terran player. Info from the streamer himself, I think

[@citizenofterra]

I love watching Mini. I don't get why Tastosis always talk of Snow first. Snow has been irrelevant in ASL the last five seasons. It is Mini that bears the torch of Aiur. And partly Best and Bisu too. The young templar and the two old dragons are all that is left of Protoss, but Fall is coming...

[@denesolah1328]

yep… same idk why are they always bringing up snow when he had 2 good seasons.. best and mini are performing much better, and bisu is coming back slowly but surely. idk how long these protosses will keep up with the younger generations of terrans and zergs

[@citizenofterra]

@@denesolah1328 Yeah, I like Snow and he's definitely strong, but always just seems to fumble when it matters in tournaments. I am sure his online level may be the highest of all tosses, but that's a different story

[@yyyy-uv3po]

Artosis says that because he played a few times against Snow, and got raped (with mass Scouts once). But more seriously, Snow has incredible results in KCM, he really under-performs in ASL. That being said, I prefer to see Best zap Defilers with Dark Archons!

[@utarian7]

It's already fall... Come on, Protoss! Live for Aiur!

[@citizenofterra]

@@yyyy-uv3po Even though Best often fumbles too, I still love him. When he performs, he REALLY performs. Macro toss is the most badass macro style when in the right hands.

[@cybren3003]

Can someone explain why the audience reacted and that girl put her head in her hands?

[@sebastianbean8226]

Did anyone ever answer the Mexican guy asking "what does that mean?" I couldn't figure out what the middle line was, so I wanna know what he was asking and what it meant...

[@spindlymist]

I don't speak Korean but I think it said 나가, meaning "out," as in 나가세요 "get out."

[@TheAeolas]

If I could fix something in the game it would be templar´s storm and vessels irradiate energy requirement from 75 to at least 100, and then it would be more even.

[@ukaszmrowka740]

20:29

[@cl8804]

poor people tend to live in clusters

[@owendavis3500]

Still no group c or d ?

[@archangelz2312]

LOL the todays matchup info for group B is the group A players

[@XFoX90]

there it is.

[@DeuceOnFace]

that trap music after the games goes hard

[@sologmaane]

Does Mini have long nails to get further reach on the keyboard?

[@utarian7]

Pre-match coke fix.

[@julkiewicz]

He plays with voodoo dolls of his opponents between matches

[@leeloodallasmultibox6172]

good games !

[@user-zk4ch9kj8e]

ok. high quality - go see =))

[@dogboneman69]

Great matches. Mini really showed the level he's at today.

[@TheOdMan]

The list I made with the people who I wanted to advance and potentially win this ASL reads more like a hitlist at this point.

[@guimontag]

jesus these windows notification sounds

[@schwanimal]

Anyone know the post game music? The metal song?

[@rennerjc]

Kaledonia mighty son

[@Stranzua]

After watching Hero vs Rush, I wonder why Zerg doesnt plague drop scv's, especially when they have mutalisks or cracklings. Plus, as good as reavers are, they are really inconsistent. Killer could have killed 30 scv's if the reavers didn't shoot duds.

[@steinarmathisen3015]

Was tasteless high during that last game xD

[@ohanamibaba]

"shoot out of my chair like a geyser" bro what lol

[@kevinengel656]

yay high res reup

[@avos5]

🎉🎉 the reupload has arrived

[@billdewall6152]

Artosis trying to explain to Tasteless that losing your greedy nexus first in a Ped v Ted doesn't end the game is kino.

[@imma5269]

LETS GOOOO

[@ferbarca3107]

Ok so these guys chitchat when the action with Vultures going on lol.

[@KuraiChanZ]

People nowadays are so spoiled smh The video being stuck at 360p was fine. I remember being happy if I could get 360p way back when

[@dragonsdynamite6403]

I’d love to see young ones watching whatever on old school TV units. Nokia 3310 for communicating. Or a house dial phone*

[@ashrasmun1]

19:38 lmao

[@DerpHerper]

Spoilers Below I genuinely think Mini making Mind play an extra 10 minutes in game 2 was not just an incredibly Mini thing to do, and an incredibly Ladder Protoss thing to do, but was frankly a masterclass of mental warfare. Imagine you've gotten Nexus-First'd twice in a row and after finally beating down this dumb ape, they make you play the length of nearly another game. I would be so annoyed. And then he comes back, not only with another Nexus First, but also the most apeish plays on the face of planet Earth? I'd be barking. I'm not kidding this was incredibly well played.

[@LORFCASTER]

GGs

[@Virtua..]

mini is a god

[@Halilbel]

SteveJung army

[@Fewshin]

man that last game was painful

[@bruh47213]

1:24:35 Windows sounds MonkaS

[@paulhamtorlia3039]

Mind making firebats against zerg is exactly what I wanted for other Terrans to do so they can just straight up attack under dark swarm with infantry upgrades and Defensive Matrix.

[@x-rated05]

Finally

[@octaviogarcia1019]

Does anyone knows why mini has such long fingernails?

[@pathofthewarlord6192]

do any of them have youtube channels?

[@HasekuraIsuna]

Tastosis or the players?

[@pathofthewarlord6192]

korean players. Mini was cool would like to see more of his videos@@HasekuraIsuna

[@HasekuraIsuna]

19:42 to skip on-screen spoiler for Game 1

[@N0d4chi]

It annoys me when the "sprite limit" is attributed ot the valkyrie not being used much. THat limit came up in 1v1 very seldom. It wasnt used cause people didnt know how to micro it.

[@elidhx6635]

Pretty sure the "sprite limit" only matters when you're playing UMS Golems or Simpsons Mass Attack lol

[@ShawnL3113]

Salty Artosis 'A protoss player made this map'

[@Shoveltime198]

Comment for the algo

[@spenyn7]

RT_?

[@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard]

2:29:05 A beautiful russian girl who loves Starcraft? Damn!

[@Seva15951]

Tasteless confused me so much talking about mind as he was mini

[@iamLI3]

mini >you hit 50% of your shots shooting uphill X"D

[@akalapov]

Why Mini nails look like graf Draculas

[@JPR3D]

Is it just me or are Zergs using Plague a lot more than they used to?

[@HasekuraIsuna]

I think we see more Defensive Matrices as well, when the skill keeps increasing, the players need to utilise their tools more and more. We saw some Maelstroms last season, in a couple of years, I only think the use of niche units and abilities will increase.

[@Akumasama]

@@HasekuraIsuna Looking forward to the day queen-Hydra defeats the muta micro in ZvZ. lol

[@yyyy-uv3po]

@@HasekuraIsuna Yeah, I'm looking forward to Zergs using Ensnare more

[@iceee420]

Mini is an emotion player

[@petercriscuola]

Why flash is not playing?

[@BiberandDolik]

cause he didnt sign up for qualifiers?

[@petercriscuola]

@@BiberandDolik yea, but why?

[@BiberandDolik]

@@petercriscuolacause hes not been in military for long and is currently renewing his skill i guess? I think in one of the vods this season Arty said Snow 4-0'ed him on the ladder