[ENG] ASL Season13 Finals Rain vs Light (Tastosis)

[@jpank11]

Great job getting this uploaded quickly we noticed your efforts! I got nothing but love for the ASL

[@noahbaker-kang5148]

I wouldn’t call 5 days late “quick”, but I guess it is relative to past games.

[@nice__username]

thanks :] ~editor

[@Davidoh1]

It was a great season. Thank you for casting guys! Definitely will keep supporting BW for life!

[@kylehill]

WHERE CAN I BUY AN ASL JACKET

[@robertwalko2169]

If you find out let us know

[@majormononoke8958]

In korea, but they have a limit edition i thing. Either way you probally need a guy in korea to buy it for you and bring it or send it aswell.

[@MrGouldilocks]

@@majormononoke8958 I'm sure Artosis would be happy to send the jackets to the United States at his own expense, he probably wouldn't even mind giving you his personal contact details to facilitate everything.

[@turumbar427]

WAIT since when did Thor play BW??

[@KenNywithrice]

Gotta say that Life Graph segment was superb, always love hearing about their progamer days and of course it's also never a dull moment when Caster Park is involved.

[@yuripantyhose4973]

yes you are right, that scene was amazing, and man what fun and good energy and they have, AfreecaTV must be a great company, you can tell they all love working for that corporation. Amazing, can't say this is the modus operandi for most.

[@dungeonmaster6292]

I went back and watched because of what you guys said and I agree that was a good segment. At one point Light calls Rain out about being complacent and content not wanting to prove anything. It showed in this Finals, too.

[@user-sp7rc9nu3z]

@@yuripantyhose4973 they also cancelled live ASL english, so theres that

[@Mattfreeman89]

I only really watch StarCraft because of this duo. They make it fun and easy to understand as a spectator. Of course, I've played the game before, so that helps, but I'm still a noob. Never played a game of ladder, but don't feel lost because of the great commentary.

[@portoseb]

Big thanks to AfreecaTV and the players, and of course to the awesome Tastosis, you guys have helped me learn so much about the game. It was super interesting to see the life graph interview, it gave a valuable peek into the players' minds and showed that everybody's life, including champions', has lots of ups and downs. For me, watching the ASL seasons one after each other is not only entertainment and relaxation, but also a source of motivation, of work ethics, of learning strategy both inside the game and outside it.

[@WatsonatorTV]

Thank you so much for everything you do Tastosis! I encourage everyone who loves this content to donate to their Patreon if you are in the means to do so, it will keep this kind of stuff going long into the future and your generosity helps them a lot. They could have stopped doing this when they were no longer paid to come into the studio to produce it but their love for this great game shines on!

[@marklego4750]

Yes well said

[@ericd545]

Preach it❤️

[@gusinfantas2070]

Earlier in the season I commented on the speed of the uploads in a negative light. Just wanted to give you guys props for speeding it up. We thank you.

[@petitknightcreations7431]

What an incredible ASL Season 13! I enjoyed every match, and everyone worked so damn hard (players, production crew, ASL English and their translations and Tastosis' casting). Really, what a boon when times are tough!

[@marc-etiennemercier6584]

Man Caster Park has to host every match. He's so damn entertaining and makes every player laugh.

[@TCG_HERO]

I agree, Caster Park a legend

[@seedhero6266]

Even when I can't understand a word, he remains my favorite caster of anything ever. The enthusiasm he brings, on top of everything else, is next level.

[@BauerPower4]

I loved that slideshow at the end showing all the players just enjoying themselves/interacting amongst one another. Was a cute look behind the scenes a lil

[@crh18]

most of the shots were from them playing the minigame that presenter Lee, Stargirl, hosted.. winner of that was SoulKey i think

[@TheSarenarass]

My first season watching every game, I am now a fan for life

[@dylanfalk3243]

What an amazing season, I am blown away. First season I watched every match, everyone involved should be proud for producing such a class event.

[@furlisht]

It's great to see a champion crowned in front of an audience! Thank you for this season!

[@wackaflacka548]

It's been a good season, excited to watch this final play out.

[@naczelnypsycholog6296]

awesome season, terrible final 😆

[@coyrex1250]

@@naczelnypsycholog6296 even though Light steamrolled Rain I enjoyed it

[@naczelnypsycholog6296]

@@coyrex1250 I don't, I've seen this for years, late game PvT is imbalanced, so you need weird tactics before 3 bases and 3/2 kicks in

[@coyrex1250]

@@naczelnypsycholog6296 Rain also lost in the early and mid game the other 3 games though. Light outplayed him

[@naczelnypsycholog6296]

@@coyrex1250 yeah he stubbornly played 4 times fast nexus g1 = 19/25 (cuz gas steal?) g2 = 12/17 g3 = 16/17 g = 12/17 i guess it's not that great opening as it seems

[@spencerfeathers1105]

Man, from watching Rain v Light KSL Season 4 on YT which kind of got me back into starcraft, this rematch was awesome to see! Thank you Tastosis for the casts this season, I can't wait for the next one!

[@ChefJeff789]

Really cool to see and hear audiences again. Different feeling and very welcome!

[@stiltzy1534]

1:31:57 I really didn't expect that 2nd bunker above ramp, so ballsy! ...followed by Tasteless' perfectly cut scream as marines rush into it lmao

[@isambo400]

Terran is so imba. They have the best music

[@der_Mann_mit_der_Nase]

Thanks a lot for this. So grateful for high quality Broodwar stuff in 2022.

[@alfredomallqui2665]

Thanks for afreeca to keep preserving the BW competition...i still have memories from OSL 2007 to 2012, maybe those days won't come back...but is good to see irl people there and the spirit of rooting for the players and the game :')

[@7thquark309]

That life-line interview was so funny, I hope to see more of that in next seasons.

[@huggernaut55]

Awesome to see some high level broodwar : ) SC2 is good, but I like watching broodwar so much better. Everything is bright and colorful and you can instantly tell what it all is. Some of those SC2 marine, marauder, ghost balls just look like a jumble of stuff, but broodwar has that great quality of, wherever the camera is looking, you know exactly what is there, and that makes it so pleasant to watch.

[@yuripantyhose4973]

yeah couldn't agree more, personally I prefer to play sc2 much more than BW, especially ladder and competitive. But when it comes to watching nothing beats brood war. Like you say the balls of deaths just look like jumble of stuff, whereas in Broodwar you can see the micro very clearly and the awkward way the units move on the map adds to the tension and overview like you say you know exactly what is there. BW is the best esport to watch imo.

[@abstractdaddy1384]

Completely agree. The "worse" graphics and unit pathing end up being better.

[@bloodshot8916]

Well said, yeah this is the problem I have with most modern games tbh. Brood war is so clean.

[@huggernaut55]

@@yuripantyhose4973 Too true : ) Plus I'm glad that we are still seeing innovation in BW after all these years. It really never got stale and that's kinda nuts, in a great way.

[@TJ-ck3fp]

Yep 100%, Brood War has a fantastic art style where everything is super clean and clear but also very detailed at the same time. You can tell at a glance what everything is but the extra detail is there if you stop and look closer. SC2 has kinda the opposite, a slightly chunkier art style which should in theory be very clear but for some reason at a glance the units sometimes just blend together into a "jumble of stuff" as you put it. I think it's the lack of contrast of individual units combined with the death ball style unit formations that really muddy things up.

[@jgmweston]

Artosis and Tasteless are the curators of English Brood War, thanks so much for a great season.

[@realGBx64]

Wow, it started with a lot of psy storms, but it ended with only some Light Rain...

[@kevinhu7684]

😂

[@SCDJMU]

Well....i.... have an upvote.

[@fatboyjr364]

😐🤦🏼‍♀️

[@NP-gb5su]

Why do people upvote spoiler comments? Like wtf

[@fatboyjr364]

@@NP-gb5su because it was funny why do people read comments and get surprised when there is a spoiler you should have a brain going into it that’s what you are going to see

[@bladesofseven]

Fun fact: This is technically a rematch of KSL season 4, where both Light and Rain faced off in the end. Spoilers: It also largely ended the same way, too.

[@Goenitz33]

Rain’s PvT is not his best matchup and this finals looks like a lack of preparation

[@TrueRahf]

Essentially two games were decided after early aggression was repelled, and then the defending player simply let that position run out in the sand. Almost as if one side didn't know at all how to capitalize on strong defensive play leading into the mid-game.

[@aeonstar293]

Thank you for getting this uploaded quickly!

[@flowertowerrr]

U know who won cause of ARTOSIS's smile in the thumbnail

[@jonathanferguson9226]

I knew who won because I watched Scan's cast a few days ago.

[@catra195]

Hahaha

[@MrDdz]

Damn... the stage is next level. So is the audience. Hell's yeah!

[@alfredomallqui2665]

Well, compared to OSL era... is very different, at least they still preserve the gaming and professional tournament compared to outside south Korea :')

[@chrisdavid6452]

Son los mejores casters que hay en la vida. Aunque no les entienda ni la mitad de lo que dicen :) Saludos desde Chile

[@maximvoronkov9418]

Guys, you are awesome! Can't support you on Patreon, since I am from Russia, and my bank card wouldn't work, but my heart is with you! Thanks a lot!

[@dimitartodorow4996]

What a great season! It brought memories from 2007-2008, starcraft BW must surely live forever.

[@MrGouldilocks]

Just to think, Mini actually chose Light as his first opponent/prey during the round of 16 selections.

[@Renwoxing13]

Isn’t that more like : “I might as well face light now because either I lose/beat him now, or I lose/beat him in the finals ! Just get it over with!

[@MrGouldilocks]

@@Renwoxing13 When it comes to playoffs or tournaments, I think it would be wise to do everything in your power to move on to the next round, and not look ahead or think about the finals until you get there. If you believe Light to be your biggest threat to winning the tournament, then you should try to face him as late as possible in the tournament, preferably the finals. Why not let some of the other players try to take down Light? Even if your plan fails, and Light sweeps you in the finals, if youre Mini, at least you're getting a fat second place paycheck, and a seed for next season. That sounds a lot better than getting sent home in the round of 16.

[@tiagomota4734]

​@@Renwoxing13wow your logic, your eprobrably not a math teacher or some scientist huh?

[@gam3rjae330]

The game sounds and soundtrack are incredibly satisfying. The nostalgia is real.

[@cyruscrossan]

So good to see this with the fans again. Like the old days with MSLs and OSLs.

[@vitorodino9851]

at 50:40 - After they discussed the decision by Rain to not storm the SCV's because of the lack of mineral patches and subsequent worker oversaturation, I started to wonder. Is it a good idea to throw a few scv's in with your army to tank shots, and to body block? An SCV has 60 HP and is "Small" meaning it takes 1/2 dmg from explosive. This means zealots will always take 3 hits to kill them, and dragoons will always take 5-6 shots to kill them (depending on upgrades). They tank just as well as a vulture, for most intents and purposes. Seems like throwing a few SCV's into your "junk" control group (The science vessel + goliath + spare units group) could help to buffer and add some extra resilience to your army, especially when your minerals are already oversaturated. Would also help with post-battle repairs. Grab your 2 scv's that lived, shift click your red tanks.

[@samusaran13372]

I think it will be a negligible difference at that stage of the game. You will see Terrans do it in mid game, but when late game rolls around, all the mine drags + tank splash + storms + zealots will just make the few SCVs in your army useless.

[@BLooDCoMPleX]

While on paper this might sound good, in BW the amount of things you can control is one of the invisible resources that you have to manage in the game. There are only so many things you can do at once. The amount of workers you would need to pull to make any reasonable difference would cost you at least 2 control groups so it's not something you can use every fight. The Zealots will be charging into your army through Mines, which would evaporate the SCV line as well. Instead of that you could maneuver your Vultures a bit better or target fire with your Tanks a bit better and you would probably end up in a better spot. Throwing workers into the fight is something you do when you have absolutely no other option, not something you do because it's efficient. Terrans already do it in TvT to break Tank lines, against Protoss it wouldn't be that much effective I think.

[@spinvn]

dude, Vultures are only 25 minerals more expensive than SCVs, they can not only tank shots but also shoot back and lay mines and run around the map. There's no reason to use SCVs for that purpose.

[@TheDasErdinger]

He did pull his workers on the 4th base when his Vultures died. So yeah, you can pull them to protect tanks. It's just that Vultures are even more tanky than SCVs. They also get 6 shot by Dragoons but are more tanky vs Zealots.

[@inguh7041]

Dunno, but why not? It's an idea

[@Frankenberryoneone]

Thanks so much for the great casting this season. Very much looking forward to the next one =D

[@EebstertheGreat]

Caster Park is so good. I know the storyline of the hardworking Light coming back against the newcomer Rain writes itself, but it's so funny how he shouts it on stage. Light looks like he's about to laugh at times, or maybe cry.

[@joeblow2069]

How is Rain a "newcomer"?

[@samusaran13372]

I think it's funny when he tries to get beef started between them in all the pre-game interviews haha

[@samusaran13372]

@@joeblow2069 Not a newcomer newcomer, but he did just return from a 3 year retirement.

[@EebstertheGreat]

@@joeblow2069 Yeah I definitely shouldn't have said "newcomer," rather "newly returning." The idea is that Rain hasn't really been practicing much lately, since he just came back, while Light is one of the hardest-working pros out there.

[@CoqPwner]

Thanks for another awesome season guys! On point casting, production and editing as always. Cheers and see you in Season 14!

[@Handle35667]

Thanks AfreecaTV, ASL and Tasteosis Patreons for another great season of StarCraft

[@d4d]

Guys, your game 2 post game analyse is why I am proud to support you on Patreon. That was witty! It wasnt a scientist view of all of that, but it had what makes you guys unique : life! Bravo

[@TheBlvision]

This final is incredible, I'm totally blown out. The champion absolutely deserved the tile. Great games. And big thanks to Tastosis again for this epic journey of ASL season 13.

[@mo0omo]

that worker drill up the ramp on game 3 tho, incredible, he sent it when he had sight of the minerals about a whole minute before

[@abstractdaddy1384]

Yeah Light with some killer instinct there. Awesome

[@quinton1630]

That’s insane strategy and timing. These are the tricks we don’t even consider when we’re watching.

[@Dr.Gainzzz]

Man that 1st game is legendary and artosis asking if Light was trolling by building so many siege tanks actually made me laugh out loud.

[@crh18]

I too have never seen so many tanks at once.. you think cheat mode is on.. haha

[@TheBryceWade]

What an epic season of BW. Great series and mad props to the winner. Too bad it was a blowout, but Light still put on a clinic of tactics. Can't wait for Flash to come back as Random and win an ASL.

[@Slaphappy1975]

Hear that, Mr. Anderson? That's the sound of inevitability.

[@abstractdaddy1384]

Nice

[@Slaphappy1975]

@@abstractdaddy1384 Thanks, at least one person got the reference lol

[@SwitchBlade180]

If I were to go to Korea to watch ASL in person, will there not be an English commentary available now that you guys are only casting VODs?

[@THAC0MANIC]

pretty much which is th e sad thing.

[@BLooDCoMPleX]

They only do VODs now.

[@Phantom_madman]

They cut the english cast because it wasn’t making money appearantly. They are still allowed to upload english vods on afreeca channel though

[@majormononoke8958]

Lol, do you really think they had the english cast going loud in the event? Dude 98 procent are koreans, they have the korean casters + caster lee they all speak in korean for the korean audience... I doubt they ever had the english going on for the live audience in the events.

[@SwitchBlade180]

@@majormononoke8958 I think before foreigners can wear a headset to listen to tastetosis cast live in person

[@NinjaBoy606]

Wow that was a speed-run of a finals

[@delonho2]

TASTOSIS FOREVER! Thanks for the wonderful cast. Can tell that they are really disappointed on how lopsided this was xD

[@quinton1630]

This was the S13 Ro.24 Day 1 (group A) match all over again 😂

[@vikmaknae]

please continue this productionn, Our community in broodwar is not so big here in the Philippines but we love korean starcraft, I my self ranked B+ on iccup back in the days!

[@WatleyDoomCrab]

Wild season, lots of great battles but also so many that were blink-and-you'll-miss-it. Lots of exciting new tech too. Thank you so much for this English cast!

[@kantsus]

GREAT FINALS!! =) Thanks to everyone at Afreeca & special thanks to our legendary casters!!

[@Winium]

51:56 I'm in disbelief that Tasteless actually said the full name "Psionic Storm" instead of "psi storm". I don't remember the last time I even *thought* of the full name.

[@anonamos701]

Grats on the win! Even though the games were a bit on the lopsided side it was still an amazing g1!!! Looking forward to the champ's future ASL performances!

[@Cernunn0s90]

Thanks for a fantastic season guys! Looking forward to the next one :)

[@WolfNinja13]

Great cast guys, was amazing watching the season with you :D.

[@bandwarrior007]

No way, I made a finals? Holy cow this is something I've dreamed about for 15 years. The saga with Bisu coming back, Jaedong coming back, flash being gone, everything is unreal. This is what I wanted. This is exactly how StarCraft should be so many years after inception, inspiring old players to enjoys, and new players to see and develop the skill to potentially see this stage. Tasteless being the caste is beyond my wildest dreams, the fact that you still love and cast this game is beyond my wildest dreams. Thank you. What a dream come true.

[@benjaminisaacson1807]

Another great ASL season comes to an end. What is the translation of the oft-repeated phrase by Caster Park at 15:36 before the match starts? Sounds like "Shijaaaaa Kagashimida!" but I have no idea what it means.

[@Galacsia]

The korean for that is 시작하개습니다, which means something like "Let's get started!"

[@qfrank76]

Flipping awesome! Another great season, thanks for the cast and upload!

[@BrickRoadDX]

Thanks so much for this! Can you consider putting padding on the end of the video to help avoid spoilers about how long the match is?

[@callmeLilSparky]

Artosis mentioned this once before when someone asked. They apparently can't do that, because with the way KZbin monitors watch time as a part of it's algorithm, it would mess with the channel's place in it all, if they were to do that, as people would just leave so much of the video unwatched.

[@vitaminamulti]

Feel free to place ads on youtube, if it helps you load here faster! Best commentary and fun~

[@MrTheQuestioner]

Holy hell that line graph bit after game one was hilarious. Thanks for the translations!

[@dungeonmaster6292]

Light seems to be showing these greedy Protoss players some justice. Love to see meta game shifting after all these years

[@secdeal]

I haven't followed BW for like 10 years, it's good to see Light is up there! He used to be a mid-high tier Terran around 2010. I liked his style and copied a lot of his builds then :)

[@atanasangelov4943]

Thank you Afreeca and Tastosis!

[@diegomaradona3561]

Light didn`t look impressive against Action and i thought he`s not gonna go far but here we are. Congrats to the new king!

[@skykur]

He dumpster'd action, remember when he put a science facility above the nydus? that was insane.

[@kiev-b2v]

Thanks for the amazing casts

[@thomasb1943]

First game starts 29:51

[@MickBalanda]

Love it! Happy to see a Terran win.

[@ThreatFromAbovee]

I have been watching a couple seasons now and it would be nice if you would add some black screen or loop the video or something so the outcome is not determined when i fastplay through the breaks. Thanks!

[@kalmitev8271]

anyone knows when the next season starts?

[@Xcenttric]

Kinda reminds Flash vs Snow finals... What an amazing season it was. Thank you TASTOSIS! Thank you AfreecaTV!

[@WeebJail]

im so glad this is going so well. im more of an sc2 person but amazing to see just how strong their patreon for this is going. who knew they know starcraft fans better than anyone

[@Perrodetrocha]

Comparto el sentimiento de decepción de Tastosis, esperaba mucho más de la actuación de Rain. Light lo hizo impecable, el mejor.

[@grafmontefausto4620]

does anyone know when asl 14 starts

[@yellow6100]

You know its gonna be GOOD when commercials are longer than all the games together

[@userxjk8994]

Amazing to watch two of the best players running up against each other. I've always a place in my heart for Rain. Not only 'cause it's good for the nature you know. ;)

[@free-4-1]

Watching Light playing from the Beginning of ASL 13, i thought he has nothing special, and Rain will win in the Final. But it doesn't happen the way i think, Light was the GOOD DEFFENDER and perfect timing attack. and Thank you so much for everything you do Tastosis.

[@MrDdz]

What's the intro music? It's so rad!

[@fredhurst2528]

If you mean the song that precedes the start of the games, it is Bleed Into Me, by Trivium

[@DZatheus]

That was...anticlimactic. But very happy for the winner. He clearly looked like the strongest player throughout the season and this is a deserving prize.

[@КонстантинИванов-д1д]

MAN ... Light is a monster but THIS KIND OF MONSTER ?!?!? ... 4-0 against RAIN ... WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ??!?!?! That is PHENOMENAL considering the type of games that Rain displayed this season... just INSANE. Very one-sided but excellent finals overall. Huge props to Tastosis! I really wish we could have live casting again and I was really disappointed by the BO1 format in the groups at the start of the tournament, but this ASL season has been so fuckin sweet, I really cannot complain at all... So thanks to the players and the casters for bringing so much fun to us !

[@EncorePerformances]

Brings back memories of Flash's last ASL victory where he slam-dunked Rain and Snow back to back.

[@DjAtmaWeapon]

This was fantastic. Many many thanks. And the trophy was insanely nice this year xD

[@fangedcow12345]

The winner definitely deserved it. He's been playing for decades and nbever won an ASL before.

[@Baldodeathmetal]

Somebody plz tell me, what is the song that plays when the winner wins at 1:56:36?

[@nx_s]

Andy James - Shattered and Broken - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHmsZKSZgLyipac

[@TerranGhost]

Artosis seems so smug during this I love it.

[@lp4275]

Thanks you Arto and Tast.

[@muffinbucketman]

Tastosis starts at 21:05

[@wilz3346]

Ty

[@nomadtrails]

@1:45:57 oh man someone pls tell me where I can buy this jacket online!!!

[@martinlatour9311]

Exactly what I needed

[@yuripantyhose4973]

First game was amazing, but sad we didn't get butter in the finale, oh man, thanks for upload and awesome season. The whole lifegraph thing was really good, funny and man love the players and staff even more now.

[@Hatchumosc1]

was Flash vs Snow more or less one sided finals?

[@mattknaggs4499]

nice throw rain, how might of a cut did you receive?

[@presentedbyconormctappersp4565]

I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised as to who won this series.

[@FeersYouTube]

Artosis smiling in the thumbnail. Is this a spoiler? :)

[@JerseySlayer]

perfect timing, i just got caught up! long live Brood War

[@realGBx64]

damn it was played in front of a live audience? when I was sick with covid??? :(

[@christophersecreto5686]

I was hearing a korean man speak in the background and thought there was koreans outside of my apartment. Man I feel silly.

[@SCDJMU]

lol same here

[@vernificusoccultus9353]

great casts !!! thank you afreeca and tastosis!

[@Skazzo]

Perfect conclusion to my day off! Love you guys! Long live Broodwar! kekekekekekek

[@avos5]

We've made it to another finals. Thanks everybody who brought this together