Engine Building Part 16 - Dyno Testing

After you finish building your engine it's good to choose the right dyno service. This video is about selection, prep, performing, and analyzing a dyno run.
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[@mervyncausier]

Just finished watching the whole series … excellent! Whilst here in England I’m not going to work on too many of those engines I can relate it to the Rover V8 ‘s I used to build in the TVR sports cars I used to work on in my garage. My current project is an R32 V6 Vw golf that I’m turbocharging and using nitrous. Your videos are a great source of information and inspiration . Well done Pete !

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you my friend. You're going to have an awesome Golf!

[@gst69man]

478 hp , great job Pete. masterpiece. cant wait to see it run in a car. tks for the great vids

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks my friend...I'm on the project

[@billmurphy8282]

Awesome video series, I learned a lot. Thanks for your time. Can't wait to start watching the other videos.

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks Bill

[@WhiskeyDale]

EXCELLENT video series. I really enjoyed watching all of it and a I learned a ton. nice job sir.

[@PetesGarage]

Awesome Dale....thanks for watching, we are all here to learn.

[@allamitgroup4146]

We must confess you really did a good and you made so easy to comprehend. Thanks for this series we look forward to partner with you

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you, what are we partnering on?

[@jal492]

It's a thing of beauty, Pete :) Can't wait to see the upcoming Cobra project videos; thanks for taking us on the journey with you!

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks my friend. It's going to be a fun journey.

[@petepaleta6776]

Awesome build! You have been extremely helpful with your video’s.

[@PetesGarage]

Awesome, thank you!

[@Jeff-gc2sb]

Awesome series Pete!!! You are very talented at what you do!!!

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you very much Jeff, I'm glad you like the videos.

[@abdulrazaqali9249]

Awsome series, learnt a lot, thank you very much

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks for watching

[@j.whiting7177]

Love the series. Can't wait to see the engine installed! Great work Pete!

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you my friend

[@stevejanka361]

Great info on break in. So many people have myths and bogus information about this. Now we know. Thanks for another great video.

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks Steve

[@ozjado]

This is the second time I have watched this series and this last episode still hurts more than seeing the end of game of thrones haha.. excellent work Pete, I am building a 351cleveland in Australia for my 1971 xy falcon and the knowledge gained from you is going to make it a pleasure

[@PetesGarage]

That's awesome! What's game of thrones.....lol

[@ozjado]

@@PetesGarage it's what some people watch when we ain't watching Pete's garage 😉

[@wysetech2000]

Looks like you got the smoking problem fixed. Well done, Pete.

[@PetesGarage]

Yes sir...runs awesome

[@craigorsomething7533]

Love watching these series. It would be great to work along side someone like you to learn hands on too, so interesting. Hopefully I'll be able to get and build one myself one day. Keep dreaming Craig...

[@PetesGarage]

Never give up Craig! Take your dream and write it down, then it becomes a goal. Put down some action steps to make it happen and it becomes a plan.

[@craigorsomething7533]

Definitely. Planning on getting an old second hand engine/motor rebuilding it and up grading parts. One step at a time it will get done. Thanks pete

[@Dave-id6sj]

I'm with you Craig. I have taken the first step and taken my V8 Falcon (In Australia) 302 off the road and the engine and transmission are out. The engine is at the machine shop, where like Pete says I went through with the machinist what I wanted, could expect, took advice and the game has started. New pistons on their way and let the machining begin. Pete's right, make a goal into a plan after you decide what you want and do it like me, I only get a job done each payday, I'm lucky that the machinist recommended to me doesn't mind that, and he's happy for the engine to reside at his shop until we have done everything and bolted it back together. After that the auto gets a freshen up as well. Haven't decided if I will use factory EFI or get an aftermarket setup from MSD or Haltech. So yeah mate, have a go and go at the pace you can afford.

[@PetesGarage]

@@Dave-id6sj That is an awesome comment! Thank you for sharing and good luck with yours.

[@mpantera913c]

Best advice ever. that goes for anywhere you go not just dynos lol

[@ipdjbt]

Very nice and thorough, Pete!

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks Maxey

[@teamletteracing]

Thank you for the video series. I watched all of them and learned a lot from you! Thanks again!

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you my friend

[@Hernandez530]

Ive been waiting for this video for quite a while...nice build Pete

[@PetesGarage]

I'm so happy is finally done too

[@cozydram1]

awesome chap...........so chuffed you got it sorted ........looking forward to seeing you instal it now.........NEAT

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks Phil

[@pakdefencewarfare7544]

i really love ur all videos and i a big fan of u really thankfull to u to share lot ov knowledg with us .

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you my friend

[@cali72283]

Thanks For share your knowledge with us Pete !!!!!!!

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you my friend

[@johnsmith-qz4bv]

looks great pretty good numbers too..

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks John, more than enough for what it's going in

[@KaliKilla916]

Very informative video series. Makes a noob like me want to tackle an engine build on my own. You are a very good teacher and you make it seem so easy. Hopefully if I do decide to build a motor, it actually turns over. Lol

[@PetesGarage]

You can do it

[@caseygates2175]

What is it about watching an engine get dynode for the first time? Just subscribed to this channel and already a huge fan!

[@PetesGarage]

Awesome! Thanks Casey

[@caseygates2175]

I assume I speak to Pete; I appreciate your ability to explain the intricacies an ICE! You make it comfortable and easy to get into a motor! That is a talent my friend👍

[@PetesGarage]

I answer every comment

[@caseygates2175]

Rad! Thanks Pete! Just out of curiosity have you ever built an air-cooled engine like VW? One day in the future I would like to build a Karmann Ghia

[@RobertKohut]

Nice!!

[@INCC74656I]

my engine's oil pump is geared to the crank so i couldn't 'prime' the system. i ended up cranking the engine over the course of a couple days for about 50 or so rotations and running for about 60 seconds before i fixed the issues with my oil flow. i used two full bottles of assembly lube and three bottles of zinc in my oil when i built it so i hope no damage was done. when i was researching doing my build people told me not to use assembly lube but just use normal oil and that didnt sit right with me. after having to trouble shoot like this im glad i had more in there than just a thin coating of oil... turned out to be a wrong gasket in my rebuild kit that had a block off where i should have had a hole.

[@PetesGarage]

Wow...that's a crappy thing

[@INCC74656I]

yea it kinda sucked. i just hope no damage was done. she runs smooth as silk right now so i guess i got away with it

[@stevenshepherd3875]

fit and finish is amazing.

[@PetesGarage]

It has to look as good as it runs

[@st_us]

Very nice engine. Nice video as well

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks my friend

[@xavier3961]

Amazing

[@HodgePodgeGarage]

this is such great information. I hope to make some quality videos like this on my resto-modding of a 1972 Plymouth Satellite Sebring Plus

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks, and make sure to share your videos

[@HodgePodgeGarage]

Petes Garage I already am! I just started not too long ago and am still finding my groove with making vids, but I have a playlist with what I've done so far. thanks! looking forward to seeing more of your progress

[@teamarrow6717]

Hey Pete thanks for this series about the Cobra engine would you do a series on the Cobra jet 429 please it's your Ham radio guy Peoria AZ

[@PetesGarage]

I would love to...know anybody who has one and can ship it to me?

[@roaddog1973]

Make that 2 guys from Peoria, AZ that would love to see that. ;-)

[@jimball816]

really enjoy these basic engine building vids. very informative. do you have a section somewhere on what machinist tools are good to have & how to use them ?

[@PetesGarage]

Not yet

[@INCC74656I]

after watching this series i wish i had seen it back before i did my first engine rebuild. i may have been able to avoid a couple issues i had during my build if i had. not all the issues mind you but some, i woudl still have a had a couple dozen to "enjoy" working through, lol

[@PetesGarage]

Building is fun, problems are fun to solve as well. As long as you catch them before you start it.

[@MaximRecoil]

Your valve covers say "427 Cobra." Wasn't the 427 a big block engine? How is it that the valve covers fit on your smallblock 351 Windsor?

[@PetesGarage]

351W with a 408 stroker crank bored to 427. They make valve covers for 351 heads

[@MaximRecoil]

​@@PetesGarage A 351W-to-408 stroker kit already includes a .030" over-bore as part of the calculation, i.e., a 4.030" bore (stock bore size is 4") with a 4" stroke (stock stroke is 3.5") = 408.18 cubic inches. To get to 427 cubic inches with a 4" stroke you'd need a 4.120" bore (which would give you 426.61 cubic inches, or 427 rounded up). That's a 0.120" over-bore, which isn't possible with an original equipment 351W block (.060" over-bore is about the most you can do). You'd need a specialized block with siamese cylinders to do that, like this one - performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6010-BOSS351BB - which starts out with a 4.120" bore.

[@PetesGarage]

Can't give away all my secrets......besides, I'm going to change the valve covers and air cleaner because EVERY Cobra has them

[@MaximRecoil]

​@@PetesGarage There is no secret that can get you to 427 CID with an OE 351W block and a "408 stroker crank" (crank with a 4" stroke). It isn't possible because you'd need a 4.120" bore diameter, and an OE 351W block doesn't have enough cylinder wall thickness for a 0.120" over-bore; not even close. These are the possible displacements using an OE 351W block (which has a 4" bore from the factory) and a "408 stroker crank": 4.000" bore = 402.12 CID 4.030" bore = 408.18 CID 4.060" bore = 414.28 CID Even a .060" over-bore (half the amount of over-bore you'd need to reach 427 CID) is pushing it with an OE 351W block, and isn't recommended unless you have the block sonic checked for sufficient cylinder wall thickness first. Your dyno sheet says the displacement of your engine is 408 cubic inches, which is accurate if your cylinders have a typical 0.030" over-bore.

[@kennethchapman9564]

I have a 98 Mustang GT that my oil pump failed on and trashed the engine. The 427 small block ford is an power plant that I am looking at to replace the 4.6 2v with.

[@PetesGarage]

That would work great

[@user-pi5kk6pf7v]

You ar so cool man

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks my friend

[@dicapriovenegas]

very very good ,thank you

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you my friend

[@SuperChevyman98]

Hey Pete, I’m having Paul do some machine work on an olds 403 I’m going to build. Where did you dyno this and how much does it cost?

[@PetesGarage]

Paul has a dyno at his facility. Talk to him about rates.

[@jamespalmer9556]

i thought i was already subed to this channel ? had to re subscribe!

[@PetesGarage]

Maybe somehow you can get unsubscribed. I'm glad your back

[@Travelingman-1980]

Thanks Pete for the lesson, I am not sure if Australian dyno operators are as flexible with letting the owner having as much input. Nevertheless, when the time comes to using a dyno, I'll no what to look for, and what questions to ask.

[@PetesGarage]

Well, you are the customer. They are providing a service and should be allowed to be involved with such an expense

[@Travelingman-1980]

Petes Garage , it can be an Aussie cultural thing, whereby they want to do the lot. Pete my caveat is, this is my assumption about my own people, but I am yet to test it. We have strict worksafe laws and insurance issues which could limit access to any workshop.

[@PetesGarage]

That kinda sucks, but I'm sure you can find someone who will work with you

[@donphillips5471]

Like the video! Need to get to the point tho

[@manitoublack]

Glad to see this project still has legs :) What ever happened to the wave-runner Yamaha engine?

[@PetesGarage]

It's got running legs, the Yamaha will be finished this winter.

[@humidbeing]

This is the kind of engine ETCG should have gone with. Turbo setup is going to be never ending.

[@PetesGarage]

It was pretty complex, but much simpler than a turbo.

[@carolinamanjr1385]

That is great for a 351W

[@PetesGarage]

I'm happy with it

[@INCC74656I]

i couldnt find a dyno around here for an engine stand alone. i have a small leak from my rear main seal now after installing due to the rebuild kit including the wrong sized seal and i didnt realize it while reassembling. they sent a seal for a crank that was machined, not polished. so its about 1/32 all around too small :/

[@PetesGarage]

That sucks, dyno testing is such great insurance

[@INCC74656I]

yea i wish i could but i was told my engine would damage their dynos. i needed to find a water backed dyno or something like that... i didnt look into it much more after that as i reallly didnt have lots of spare cash either. reason i built it myself was purely economic

[@johny3506]

Hi Pete's Garage, that's great the fact you share your knowledge. you're amazing man. wish i could be your helper in your garage. by the way, i have an hyundai tucson 2011, 5 speed manual transmission, not that kind of monster motor you're building lol, my car is jerking on first gear, i mean when i'm at low rmp when i step on the pedal the car jerk like someone was playing with the brake pedal, what could be the reasons, where should i start looking. thanks in avance for your feedback.

[@PetesGarage]

Thals Johny, could be either the clutch plate or spring pack

[@johny3506]

Pete's Garage thx my friend I'll check it!

[@tennywho6011]

How did you learn so much about the technical side of how an engine works? You seem to know so much, how can I acquire the same knowledge?

[@PetesGarage]

Working on engines for years and as an engineer in an assembly plant.

[@pakdefencewarfare7544]

Petes Garage sir my car engine has some problem it not running smooth and its has fluctuation in rpms not minor while its in low gear mostly also not produce enough torqe to derive uphils what i do tell me plz i have efi 16 valve engine suzuki make 1000cc

[@PetesGarage]

Could be so many things I can't even guess

[@MyassesDragon]

For an expensive engine, dyno testing makes sense.

[@azriel4446]

How much does it typically cost to dyno run an engine?

[@PetesGarage]

Usually around $80 an hour. If the dyno guy is good and there are minimal adjustments you can get on and off the dyno for about $320 in 4 hours.

[@geterdone]

If I’m rebuilding an early 90s 351 Windsor and the factory calls for a .044 for a gap in the spark plugs but I get iridum plugs that are gapped .030 should I gap them to .044 or leave them as is like the box of plugs says?

[@PetesGarage]

The gap drives the heat of the spark. Gap to .044

[@vomdeich1011]

Great video! Did you set the engine for 93 octane E10? Here it's common to tune for 98 or 100 octane... Why did you choose "low quality" gas or is the US octane rating not the same we are using in the EU?

[@johnd5805]

It's not the same rating.

[@PetesGarage]

Yeah....the rating systems are different.

[@ArcticAstrophysics]

Hey Pete I have a rebuilt small block 318 in my truck and my oil pressure is 80 psi at idle on startup and around 70 psi while cruising, then when its warmed up it will be around 25 psi at idle (my idle is around 750 rpm). Do these numbers sound okay? 80 psi sounds like a lot for a small block 318

[@PetesGarage]

It does sound like a lot, if you're using 10W30 switch to 5W30

[@garrettdicken9663]

How's it going Pete! I'm trying to turn my first car (2005 Saturn Ion) into a project car road king, a sleeper that dominates any car that decided to go against me. I wanna totally rebuild it. 1. Is it a good idea? I think it'd be pretty cool to take your first car and turn it into a beast, and you still have the sentimental connection with it. 2. What engine would you recommend and parts etc etc. I want to totally rebuild and create a new engine like you did in this series. Taking all the turbo, supercharge, fuel injections, etc into consideration whichever route I wanna go which engine would you recommend to withstand all that power? Thank you Pete -PVT Dicken

[@garrettdicken9663]

And also it needs to fit the actual engine bay

[@PetesGarage]

That is a huge project for your first car. Garrett is right, it all needs to fit under the hood. Get some experience and then try to upgrade. Those cars are not made to handle high torque or HP

[@garrettdicken9663]

Petes Garage what would you recommend for a good solid all around project car to build to dominate the streets. And is there anything I could do to make the Saturn ion handle all the hp and torque ?

[@garrettdicken9663]

Petes Garage not really worried about money atm

[@garrettdicken9663]

What about that?

[@bicylindrico]

527hp 590tq

[@aymensaadoon6601]

How much horsepower? Wtf

[@PetesGarage]

480

[@MaximRecoil]

"Wtf" "WTF" indeed. He said in the video how much horsepower it had and even showed the complete dyno sheet at 22:17. It didn't occur to you to watch the video before asking questions?

[@frankcherry3810]

I could have used his videos 50 years ago

[@PetesGarage]

Me too, that's why I made them

[@Lake_Lover]

512 hp.....