ENGINE PROBLEMS Tornado + F16 + NH90, at KB

Kleine Brogel 18-09-2019
Departures Sanicole Airshow 2019
Tornado, German Air Force
NH90
F16's Belgian AF

[@JosephHelmstetter]

Man, the vertical stabilizer on the Tornado is massive!

[@ravusursi893]

What you’re actually seeing is a reheat drain caused by overpressure of fuel that has not been ignited. This pressure build is caused by cancelling reheat, causing the system to automatically dump/vent/exhaust the excess fuel through an outlet under the exhaust. Pretty standard stuff but looks odd to the general public.

[@nopenotme6369]

Never worked an afterburner system before, thanks for the explanation.

[@panicwarning4016]

And bleed valves open to avoid complete surge to the first compressor stages.

[@PhantomMark]

Thanks for that, was sat wondering why the pilot still lit the pipes and went after what seemed a problematic start.

[@sensualeye]

Ravus Ursi thank you.

[@125brat]

@@panicwarning4016 I don't remember that from my RB199 course, but I do remember that the throttle lever in reheat controls the Aj or nozzle area during lightup and subsequently fuel flow follows nozzle area as the reheat is modulated from min to max. That maintains the optimum nozzle area for maximum thrust and correct back pressure through the engine core to prevent surge or compressor stall. Mind you it made a big bang when occasionally the engine surged in reheat during maintenance engine ground runs because the adjustment pots on the MECU sometimes got noisy and caused erratic operation!

[@briansonnenfelt7125]

The real hero of this video are the brakes on that tornado

[@JohnnyC01]

Well brakes are supposed to hold the plane back.

[@BallzGaming69]

more so the tires having enough grip to not slide.

[@avgeek5396]

@@BallzGaming69 more the whole gear construction can take the load.

[@commandingnationsintl7792]

Okay then. The whole plane is amazing or the engines would just fly down the runway leaving the pilot sitting in his cockpit on top of his brakes.

[@robertevans9148]

Pain in the arse to set up and fit

[@robvilla622]

Was going to offer my Zippo, but he finally got it lit!

[@davidmihajlovic7118]

😂🤣🤣

[@f-4ephantomll271]

Lmao 😂😂😂

[@petedunn795]

I worked on these beasts at RAF Honington, 9 squadron. We were the first operational GR1 Squadron in the world. Loved them!!

[@Intrepid17011]

How can a plane look so majestic and beautiful. Must be by far , the most most beautiful plane every build, without a doubt. To bad they were decomissioned , at least i had the pleasure to see them regulary close up

[@gailcarey3597]

The Ford Mustang of the air. She never loses her swag!

[@infernalzen]

lol but she has to ask russian fighters to come down to a lower altitude to play

[@fulltilt7595]

Ford Mustang?! The most American of cars? Surely you meant Ford Capri.

[@eddiev1548]

I think the carburetor was flooded😂

[@Paul-pb3vq]

That's the trouble using NGK plugs. Should always use champion plugs on a Tornado.

[@nickleggett2101]

Paul. That. Is. Cool. Worked. For. Champion. Spark. Plugs. In Detroit. Back. In. The. Day liked. THE. Work. And. Factory. But. Was. Called. Back. To. The. Chevy. Plant. Where my. Training. Contract was.

[@Resistculturaldecline]

I thought Bosch would be the plug of choice? Lernt sumpin new today

[@maxpcint]

Not using genuine Denso from Toyota I guess

[@j.wagner8639]

NGK ia the best!

[@macmacdonald967]

Looks like a partially blocked hot shot injector which is located in the engine combustion chamber, if this gets blocked then the fuel for reheat will not get lit. The vapour out of the exhaust is unburnt fuel and the plume below the aircraft is fuel that is dumped overboard when reheat is deselected.

[@markcoveryourassets]

The Tornado always looks unhappy on the ground and also like it always has something to go take care of.... a very serious and industrious aircraft. The F-16, on the other hand, always seems eager and happy. The shark and the dolphin.

[@scottworley1479]

F16 is the shark IMO,

[@pleaseenteranamelol711]

F16 is a happy shark, always smiling and being all nimble and speedy

[@mytmousemalibu]

If we are pairings animals to jets, the Panavia Tornado would a Sand Tiger shark. Pointy and menacing with a big sweeping vertical stabilizer like the sand tiger's tail. The F-16, original name, the Fighting Falcon is perfect, a bird of pray. Sharp and attentive like a falcon.

[@stevevater8598]

Good description ,tornado so underrated

[@daszieher]

@@stevevater8598 having spoken to drivers of the infamous "Klappdrachen", the German versions are overrated.

[@TheSchmed]

That Iron Cross still brings back days of WWII

[@full_ArmourOfGod]

Paul Amarante flying british made jet ironic that

[@skyfivehd643]

Knowing the distance and fences there, this is really good stuff and awesome video quality thanks for sharing!

[@bobdyer422]

That Tornado was lookin' like the "Big Bad Wolf".

[@suzannemcdonald6547]

Runway denial... I love the look of the Panavia Tornado... She looks awfully dangerous for the enemy... Dangerous mission too...

[@gooniac33]

I am surprised that they still flew after those failed afterburner attempts!! Thought for sure that they would abort!!! Cool to watch none the less!! Thanks for sharing!

[@Dagowly83]

3 burner blowouts in a row and it's back to the line.

[@incrediblemichael]

the one afterburner is normaly enough and the main engine whasnt affected at all but what i think the ignitor for the second afterburner simply dont work after the 3 attempts it works probably the electrodes are somehow dirty or covered with sud dont forgot the tornado stands a longer period ideling at the taxi runway

[@incrediblemichael]

@@Dagowly83 that whasnt 3 blowouts the second afterburner simply dont ignite the three times

[@lmechb3305]

Samantha Willmer - RB199 uses a hot shot ignition system, not electrodes. Issue can be fouling of the hot shot injector or the system that controls it.

[@codyking4848]

That poor Tornado is in serious need of an overhaul.

[@guidopiano8390]

Most of them are.

[@mortified776]

Luftwaffe has had major issues with maintenance for years. Their Tornado fleet especially.

[@bobbeane7294]

The Tornado one of my favorite planes....and then there’s the A-10C :)!

[@trebor9711]

Didn't think the Crouts second engine was gonna fire up,, 💥🔥👊😂👊🔥💥

[@mytmousemalibu]

Its Krauts, as in sauerkraut. FYI 😉

[@cageordie]

When they came into service they were pretty clean engines compared to J79s and Speys that we saw every day. These days the exhaust looks really dirty.

[@henrikgormsen1020]

Working alongside these Tornadoes at the flightline, servicing our F-16's, for many years i thought the refuel receptacle was located behind the radar antenna. They opened up into that compartment after every flight.

[@daviddowling9830]

Perfect camera fps,well done

[@MUCSpotter]

Fantastic video. Huge like

[@MauroBrisola]

Those carburetors are tricky. Nice video!

[@xyzaero]

The Tornado is such a cool plane :-)

[@puffthedragon3983]

They seem to be very slow and use a lot of real estate in order to take off! Spectacular none the less. Thanks for sharing.

[@Larryloo1980]

It's a heavy Jet, but in the Air it is with Mach 2.3 in high Altitude and Mach 1.2 Groundspeed the opposite of slow.

[@peanuts2105]

Looks like an engineering request for the reheat system before flight. Ops check satis.

[@vrendus522]

Igniters? Still a very nice jet for the moeny.

[@shreddder999]

At first I thought it was the turboprop version of the Tornado. Why does it bounce so much? Did they heat the springs?

[@alfincassimiro4878]

WONDER ! BEAUTIFUL !

[@bullittfanatic]

Indeed, "thumbs up" for the strong brake system. More so, at prolonged pressure applications starting at 3:07.

[@Sorent1993]

Well the germans are used to some exhaust problems on their vehicles

[@rapbotsuniverse4843]

That day was other engine's day off and you guys still forced him to work.. So he took his time. 🤣

[@CarlosChagasOficial]

Muito legal seu Canal parabéns 🌍🔔🕭✊

[@gionathan3760]

🇮🇹MAGNIFICO 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 FROM ITALY 🇮🇹

[@jwagner1993]

The Only 3 axles military engine. Incredible compact even for 21° century.

[@xyzaero]

The military Kuznetsov NK-25 and NK-32 are als o 3 spool military engines (the NK-32 found limited civil use)

[@Zuloff]

At 3:22 just as he's throttling up to mil the right engine kicks out a plume of something. It wasn't happy even before trying to go into AB.

[@devinthierault]

It's fuel.

[@RedBeard10118]

Why did the tornado continue with a clear engine problem?

[@visionary_8865]

Pity that tornado begging for retirement

[@allangarrity8778]

pilot had no interest in staying overnight at that airfield - he was going regardless

[@nopenotme6369]

It’s just a code 2 dam it, I’m heading home!

[@tractorsmachinesro1405]

Absolute amazing

[@rickyroan3419]

Spark plugs are fouling out?

[@DieyoungDiefast]

Looked like a R/H engine reheat ignitor problem

[@theamazingyoutubewatchergu6838]

Can anyone tell me what function the intake looking protrusion at the bottom the vertical stabilizer on the tornado serves? I can’t find an explanation anywhere.

[@Wannes_]

Air intake for a heat-exchanger By the looks of it - and this cutaway - for the ECS aviadejavu.ru/Images6/AN/AN84-9/9-1.jpg

[@125brat]

@@Wannes_ From memory it's the precooler intake for the heat exchanger which cools the HP bleed air from the engine.

[@MakeeScience]

Whats going with the Tornado engine??

[@lesterbeedell9725]

The reheat didn’t light, the white vapour was unburnt fuel

[@phantom1298]

He should not have taken off......

[@mrandrossguy9871]

Lester Beedell So Its Basically like turning on a stove top Burner but when the Snapping doesn’t light it ?!

[@adventurekid9242]

Fine British engineering with the afterburner... I mean reheat... That Olympus was sketchy... I mean dodgy... Couldn't tell from this angle or sound what was going on with the rest of the engine. Those Germans had some pretty gutsy Kahuna's to take it like that knowing they might get an afterburner stall at any time.

[@chunder27]

@@adventurekid9242 Lol so Rolls Royce engines are shit are they, I think you might want to have a look over their record, this could be servicing, a fuel issue, not necessarily anything to do with the engine!

[@tomcline5631]

That German tornado needs new set of spark plugs on that Starboard motor!!!

[@philippayne6655]

Need to get that into Halfords mate

[@billyuhlir3783]

I knew I should have given this old girl a tune up.

[@opalablack78]

A spark plug not working on the right engine...

[@NutzerYOu]

Tornado engines do not have a "Spark Plug" for the afterburner. They blow the combustion chamber flame through the turbine to light the afterburner. This technique ist used in order to prevent heat seeking missles from locking on.

[@kaischwab1239]

@@NutzerYOu No offence, just to understand... There is not enough hot air produced by these two engines to "light a candle" for heat seeking missiles, but a spark plug will do the difference to ruin the pilots' day? Really?

[@jimwest1967]

Ive never seen an afterburner wet start before

[@chpatriot9878]

also ,das steuerbord Triebwerk ist jetzt voll durchgeputzt !! Auch eine Methode ,die Turbine zu warten !!

[@chrisfowler5079]

Do you think it was a good idea to take off? Great video 👍

[@Dagowly83]

RB199 burner blowouts are common.

[@CapStar362]

failing AB Injector Ring igniter?

[@LefThirtysix]

Great video, liked!

[@zingermike]

Tornado had clogged fuel injectors

Ground test OK? Unreliable Afterburner not so good inflight...

[@matthiasschmidt5725]

Oh shit, what problem ?? If there were a problem with the right engine, the pilot wouldn´t have started !

[@pingni2617]

Two After burner open,maybe brake cannot hold..or right engine after burner ignition fail... intermittent ...

[@simonmossman711]

Not enough choke.

[@danielramirezcruz.2209]

Super video I love it thanks..

[@killingfields1424]

The Tornado, if only they design it to be carrier operable, it might be at par with the American F-14Tomcat. Its performance numbers is identical to the Tomcat

[@moneymandan6217]

Not even in the same ball park, f14 miles ahead

[@haiedd8171]

Ooh old ages...

[@SUPREME83WHV]

Beautiful Video !

[@jigssscupid8836]

The sounds of these awesome machines are sooooo, orgasmic.

[@infernalzen]

dont tell gretta, shell have to create another 5x ngo companies to be a ceo of, +be a multi millionaire. not bad for a school failure

[@lilibethdoherty295]

When the after burner won't light there may be a fuel dilution problem poor fuel quality is most apparent when the fuel has trouble igniting, you could see a vapor coming out of the right engine but no combustion.

[@antoniocresce619]

all' 83% Aj il DECU cancella la sequenza se cala la pressione nel condotto di scarico. Il carburante nel circuito viene drenato all'esterno per vuotare l'impianto R/H.

[@jeanlouisrin8931]

Le tornado peut'il faire du surplace dans l'air

[@briantigerdaugherty]

Old girl needs her spark plugs changed

[@silentzero7]

This tornade-nozzles look like devil eyes.

[@pascalparee8915]

What is current status of the Luftwaffe? Read some info in the Dutch media about issues with the Eurofighter, what about the Tornado?

[@archer-0251]

They are going to buy a fleet of typhoons to replace the mighty Tornado. But it was controversial at first since someone suggested F-18. putting at risk lots of jobs.

[@bountyhunter_5150]

those Tornado's came alot to the enarby Pampa range. Sadly politics is killing that range.....Great vid thx for sharing.

[@bountyhunter_5150]

nearby*

[@louisvanrijn3964]

At 4:40 the right engine looks less bright, orange v.s. yellow. Ignitors or fuel nozzles / fuel flow / pressure ? Do you know that the Tornado has average 60 hrs of maintenance per flight hour? Initially it was 35, now it is 60, due the agening fleet. Want to learn to be an aircraft mechanic? Go to the Luftwaffe. Allways something to do and good meals!

[@UKAviationMovies]

Woah! Cool video :D

[@billjamison2877]

A little problem lighting the right engine I'd say!

[@petergrisdale6797]

Takes choke off, sorted off we go 😎

[@eyespythesky124]

Tornado having a vape before take off. Very distinguished.

[@atharvsarang]

It's not an problem..... It's just a check for afterburn preparation...

[@VAHOSS]

Not a failure

[@0040-u8j]

немецкая военная мощь в одном видео) жаль навальный не видит) удивительно как эти динозавры вообще летают)))

[@ЕвгенийУваров-ф6у]

Ты лучше спросил у хуйло путина, почему такая аварийноть супер пупер джет 100!? И почему ещё летает говно мамонта ту 160.

[@raymondwilliams2609]

The Panavia versions were the problematic ones. It's no wonder they were shut down.

[@jackdonald5061]

All ways love the deck boys

[@ronnieharsh1556]

Ok 🤔.

[@kristinawhorey3837]

If a similar misbehavior of the engine on my ship, I would turn back.

[@goodsdeeds3980]

f16 is still hero of all jetzz

[@atom7216]

poor tornado lol

[@ВикторВекшин-ж6ъ]

Самолет красивый, но если при пилотаже двигатели будут выходить на режим с таким рассинхроном.... Разложат его с вероятностью 100 процентов

[@DjDizzyWales]

I'm surprised that the Tornado pilot was given clearance to take off with an engine that didn't want to light it's afterburner...

[@flexmann2148]

The Tornado, best damn fighter jet in the Gulf war. #operationdesertstorm

[@SSaugaCriss]

credit to them being sent on most risky sorties but was not the best. the 117s were the most advanced and capable for the coalition.

[@williamrogers.]

Too oooops loud for Sunday!!!!! Outlaw it! Haha!!!

[@tomcline5631]

Need to clean and gap the points!

[@rossouwmalherbe757]

Love Duitsland!

[@frankfisher3363]

Better pull the spark plug on that right engine, appears to be a little fouled

[@kevinwiltshire2217]

Looks like the engine was sucking in the smoke

[@lefkadapao13]

Awesome 😀😊

[@jaimemedina6430]

Got really worried about the right engine afterburner. It was letting off a lot of white smoke which I thin is oil and then seemed to suck in those fumes😨😨😨😳

[@slickstrings]

The white smoke is unburned fuel because the afterburner was failing to ignite

Was unburned JP fuel, not oil.

[@series25a]

slickstrings how fuel become white smoke?

[@cooler066]

And.......she stalls it at the lights!!

[@nowheelspin]

Why is the tail wing smoky? Ah I get it reverse thrust

[@Dagowly83]

Venting fuel from the tail port. Common on acceleration due to the tanks being pressurised and full.

[@williamhudson4938]

@@Dagowly83 Not exactly, most afterburners, when canceled, dump the manifold through a pencil drain out the bottom of the jet. He didn't get a light and brought the throttle back to retry and it dumped the excess each time. If you noticed, the F-16 does have a pair of AB igniters with which to light the burner.

[@michaelgarbett7656]

Didnt see any engine problem with th f16 or am i reading the title wrong .

[@rajeshupadhyay8322]

Pahele Jo dikhaya tha vo mig 25 fox bat that....

[@starliner2498]

No that's a Panavia Tornado

[@kbng02]

Damn! Those tomatoes are old! Should they be canned by now

[@NielsMF]

Oh no been refueled with ethanol gasoline again

[@mudskipper0075]

Bottle of Redex and good to go...👍

[@bartologomezlopez2737]

Buen aparato