ENGINEER PREDICTS 2024 TACOMA'S DRIVING FEEL BASED ON POWERPLANT, STEERING & SUSPENSION CHANGES

[@danw.3291]

Hi David, Great video... I have a 2017 Tundra which I love... Two things about the new Tundra that made me stay away are: 1 the twin turbo V6 because I tend to keep vehicles for as long as possible. Time will tell but I think the twin turbo v6's won't last as long without without major expensive problems. The second thing is the new Tundra looks great UNTIL I see the front of it which is enough for me to say I'd NEVER own one. I say all that because at 5:17 I think the Tacoma's frontend looks great the white that divides the grill is what the Tundra is missing. When you were talking about the Tacoma's EPS I noticed the frame is a box frame unlike the Tundra I own which will be more rigid than say my C- Channel (except the front portion) on my Tundra. I've been saying I'll have to keep my Tundra forever but after watching this video I may very well consider the new Tacoma. Maybe I missed it because I was focusing on the look of the new Tacoma so I'm going to watch this video again to see if you talked about the differences between the TRD Pro vs the TrailHunter... Again Great Video I'll definitely be checking out the new Tacoma when I can.

[@chestophercolumbo4561]

Any thoughts on long-term turbo reliability with this generation turbo?

[@shadfallfan]

Will have to change the turbo every oil change.

[@Doc1855]

They Won’t last as long

[@theunown1912]

Hi David, would you possible have some information regarding the Lexus LBX? Do you have an idea of where it will be built and the quality that can be expected?

[@fezario]

Hi David, first of all I want to say just how much I appreciate your channel, you provide exactly the kind of information I look for when it comes to cars. Secondly you recently made a video about the Alfa Romeo Stelvio which I really enjoyed. I am constantly torn between going for a Lexus like an IS or going a totally different direction and buying an Alfa Romeo Giulia. I would really appreciate it if you could do a video comparing the build quality of these two cars, or at least covering how well Alfas are built these days. They always had a bad reputation for build quality but people say things have improved a lot, I would love to hear your view on this, as well as the differences in driving dynamics between these two. Keep up the good work, you are a master of your craft and people like me who appreciate quality owe you a lot

[@f1mikeyboy]

Hi David. Any thoughts on what you think the fuel economy will be, with the Iforcemax power train for the Tacoma?

[@garymatney9344]

Very good commentary! Thanks!

[@christophergodschalk3627]

I personally really enjoy the v6 in the current Tacoma, despite it not having the best performance. It has great sound and feel, and enough power for my needs. But I can’t deny that the iforce max sounds awesome. Peak horsepower at 1700 rpm is insane. I’m looking forward to test driving it someday!

[@thatoneotherotherguy]

Peak torque is at 1700, not peak horsepower, which is a function of both torque and RPM. Regardless, 465 lb-ft available from 1700RPM is extremely impressive!

[@christophergodschalk3627]

@@thatoneotherotherguy that’s right, my bad. Thanks for the correction!

[@SavagePoker81]

Indeed.. those V6 engine of tacoma still the best out there but this new 2024 tacoma engine w/ turbo is interesting, can wait to test drive one of them.

[@gearlstrickland3365]

David what will be new or different about the 2024 Toyota tundra

[@guardianguardian1321]

Good afternoon David, Insightful presentation on the 2024 Toyota Tacoma redesign. Do you think customer will be able to accessorize the Tacoma with the amber marker lights that come standard on the TRD PRO. I know that the marker lights on the TRD PRO is due to the truck’s width, but do you the marker lights will be available as an accessory for the 2024 Tacoma , TrailHunter and TRD Pro and other high end models?

[@kangill2411]

For the 5% of us who are looking at manual transmission, any thoughts on the 2024 shifting behaviour when paired with turbo, incl rev matching feature? Will it be smoother or still have an agricultural tractor feel?

[@jamesstephen5694]

David, Gotta ask you a question, can't think of anyone else to ask, Have you heard anything about the Toyota Stout coming to America, I saw it suppose to be coming on the same TGN-K platform as the Rav-4, please do a rendering of one and any other info you can find on it would be most appreciated, Thank You. if you can.

[@thatoneotherotherguy]

One statistic emphasizes how much I look forward to driving the new Tacoma and seeing how it performs: 465 lb-ft of torque starting at 1700RPM. That is way more torque, and way earlier, than the outgoing engine.

[@ronaldthistle1299]

Thank you David, I really enjoy your videos. I am concerned by the fact that the 2024 Tacoma is built in Mexico.

[@MARKKIYABU]

I Had a 1985 Toyota truck 4x4 with 2.4 Engine, it had good power & torque to move the truck, we Gotten spoiled with more power & torque over the years, I think with turbo Toyota trucks will better then past models, thank you David!¡!🤙🤙🤙

[@BigAltimaEnergy719]

It’s kinda funny how people are gonna complain the new Tacoma and 4Runner getting a 2.4 turbo, back in the 80s they also had a turbo 4cyl as well.

[@thatoneotherotherguy]

@@BigAltimaEnergy719 and it's not like the 80's turbo "22RET" was a beacon of reliability either. I don't think I've ever seen one of those (relatively uncommon) engines make it to 200,000 miles before popping a headgasket or needing a rebuild. Toyota trucks tend to get more reliable with every generation.

[@johnbielenda7336]

I had an 81', 2.4 manual.............loved it

[@timalan7406]

@@BigAltimaEnergy719 It wasn't around long.

[@timalan7406]

That was called the 22 R or 22 RE.

[@larrymarket9658]

Only thing I want to know is if I can tow a 19’ bass boat (weighing ~ 3000lbs with trailer) multiple times a week with the TRD Pro or Trailhunter with no issues??

[@triple6758]

The feel is very important. I noticed a difference in feel in the 2021 Tacoma vs how my 2006 felt. I am unsure what was changed, but it lost just a bit accuracy. The 2006 had superb steering manners and feel. Better leather on the steering wheel as well.

[@triple6758]

@dawnking7717 Not really. The money used to purchase them has little value these days. Never complain about 'rising prices' complain about government reducing purchasing power by devaluing currency.

[@gilmacababbad-qi9ql]

Hi AutomotivePress, how reliable is this new tacoma 2.4 turbo engine?

[@makatron]

The engine it's been used worldwide for a decade, it's a solid powerplant.

[@DH-mf2lv]

I guess my biggest concern would be the longevity of the turbo charged smaller engine. I would think that it have to work harder than the V6. Time will tell.

[@jesurunblends]

i wonder if getting a 2023 is better for that reason?

[@DH-mf2lv]

It would be for me. A friend of mine just bought a new 4Runner because of the same reason. There is record of multiple V8 Tundra engines going over a million miles. I don't see a V6 twin turbo engine ever doing that. Smaller engines have to work harder. Only time will tell. I know talking with mechanics they prefer a naturally asporated engine. Less moving parts. Less moving parts means less parts to wear out!

[@jesurunblends]

@@DH-mf2lv ty sir

[@dtna]

Did you get to drive the prototype truck at the TMNA press event in Hawaii?

[@Jaredius]

Turbo = heat = shorter lifespan. I plan on buying a 2025 after the major bugs are worked out, understanding it won’t last as long or be as reliable as an NA.

[@makatron]

Do you know anything about modern turbo charged engines?

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

Turbo engines actually last longer. Fords Eco engines easily outlast the old 5.4 V8.

[@justsayin3600]

​@@user-tb7rn1il3qI've got a 2012 F-150 EcoBoost it lasted 316k. It has chain slap, and I asked a reputable Ford mechanic should I fix it or dump it? Basically he said if I put the money in it would last dorm a while longer. I'm torn because it's not naturally aspirated and I can't imagine that the turbos will last much longer.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

@@justsayin3600 The turbos will outlast the engine. I’d replace the worn chains, guides, and tensioners.

[@Cody_Austin]

David, has Toyota given a timeframe of when press members will be able to get behind the wheel, pricing, online configuration, etc.?

[@johnpaul5438]

David i got 4 Taco and i think this one is perfect

[@Likiudie]

I hope you can doing a quality comparison between Toyota's made in Mexico and made in USA. I think many of us are concerned with the quality of the Tacoma after all production is moved to Mexico.

[@linhyang7944]

Great video

[@patrickaddison2426]

Question will it only be the TRD Pro and Trail Hunter that get they Hybrid engine?

[@michaelrennie5985]

Trail hunter pro off-road and limited will get hybrid

[@lennyperry6210]

Will the price jump massively like the 2022 Tundra did?

[@tortoisearmor310]

Bring back the V6 & V8s!

[@thatoneotherotherguy]

Not happening. Don't expect it. Buy one of the last dinosaurs, a 4.0L V6 2023 4Runner, if you want one last shot at an old school Toyota 4x4 in the US.

[@makatron]

I'm already looking forward to test drive the trailhunter.

[@montebeerbower7796]

I've got a deposit on a 24 trd pro but may change to trail hunter because I don't want red seats and don't want those seats really in pro. Prefer normal seats.

[@njfinests]

I'm wondering how much the 24 TRD Pro MSRP will be? I suspect around 55K???

[@natelove187]

Your the test dummy

[@wduck8919]

I'm definitely planning too be driving a new 2024 or maybe a 2025 Tacoma down the Rd.👍

[@billsharko3007]

Any idea when the new 4 runner will be out?

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

2025 Model Year

[@pinkipipe]

Love it ! Thanks

[@andywisniewski4344]

Just want ask is their a Toyota small pick up coming up

[@APOSTLESDOCTRINEPHOENIX]

Stout?

[@TwinTurboToyota]

As a new tundra owner it will ride just like the tundra and have the buzzy noisy engine in the highlander.

[@rightlanehog3151]

David, You are so enthusiastic about the new Tacoma that you had to restrain yourself with a seat belt while talking about it inside a parked car. 😉🤣😂

[@batfury9319]

Sure it’s all good and I like the look of this new 2024 Tacoma but I’m sure it’s going to be like every other truck out there today very expensive especially for the crew cab with all the bells and whistle’s which you know they’ll push to sell. I was looking forward to the new extended cab version of the new Tacoma, not everyone need or want a crew cab, but now Toyota for some reason decided to do away with the small back doors on the extended cab model and not only that they cheapened the area behind the front seats plastic everywhere which I’m ok with. And of course you won’t be able to order one the way you want with extra options like the crew cab. So like my 1989 Toyota extended cab pickup I’ll have to push the seat forward to be able to get whatever I need from behind the front seats. When the new Tacoma was revealed, I believe in Hawaii, one of the press reviewers said that Toyota decided to do away with the rear access doors for safety but I’m sure it’s to save money. So for now I’ll just hold on to my old Toyota extended cab pickup. Who knows maybe in the next year or two Toyota will decide to bring back the access doors on their new Tacoma to make it easy to load and unload items from behind the front seats. But the way it looks I won’t hold my breath for that to happen. Probably Toyota will come up with the excuse to do away with the extended cab because no one is buying it according to them. So they’ll just do away with it and just concentrate on the crew cab.

[@dudeski934]

If the New Lexus GX gets the V6 twin turbo how come the Tacoma and 4Runner doesn’t why a lesser engine

[@lorddrake8566]

Lexus is Lexus...

[@IBRAKEFORBEDROCK]

Yeah, well I predict the 3rd gens are going to skyrocket in price

[@mikeboatright5349]

My concern is the battery and what the trade in price would be at 8 to 10 years. I would probably stick with just the turbo engine. If trade in price drops a lot at 10 years or so maybe I should trade in around 6 years because of the battery. If that is the case then long term toyota quality seems to not be as big of an issue. Most vehicles have few problems at the 5 year mark so maybe another brand is on the table now??? Not sure. Just confused with all this HEV/EV stuff and long term. At 10 to 12 years do I need to spend another $10K+ for a new battery?? Not sure if that is worth it.

[@mikeboatright5349]

@@layne4376 Yes the better gas mileage might come into play but look at the Sequoia. II don't think the HEV makes much difference in mileage or at least not much.

[@mikeboatright5349]

@@layne4376 I hope so :)

[@steven4894]

Not happy with the turbo-charged engine, nor the electronic steering. 😡

[@tomkillsall]

I feel you, but not sure they have an option here. Electric steering is a must for safety sense, and turbo is kinda mid way solution for fuel economy.

[@garyr4211]

They made a mistake removing the Access Cab for 2024.

[@AlphaKorr]

Keep your 3rd gen guys!!

[@heavilymeditated2263]

The way things are trending. I can't wait for the 2 cylinder triple turbo Tacoma in 2032 😂

[@michaelrennie5985]

The wat it’s trending the 5th Gen will be all electric if the government has their way . Remember 100% electric by 2035

[@shaneclk9854]

We wanna hear about the new hilux

[@scottluthy5828]

I am sure Toyota made the turbo robust and reliable. Better fuel economy is really good thing , to.

[@insobnia97]

Thatt includes all brands not only toyota .

[@insobnia97]

This truck they're going to brake down way faster. Compared to a V6

[@garym1199]

One of my 4 Toyota's & the oldest is a 1997 V-6 4 runner I purchased new. It has 350,000 miles on it & doesn't burn oil yet. I bet the new ones won't even come close to that. I think Toyota is loosing their way & forgetting why people buy their product (reliability).

[@Doc1855]

The Turbo engines will NEVER last as long as a naturally aspirated engine.

[@dannycruse7089]

Toyotas will last for 30 years and 500,000 miles! * Swaps out Toyota vehicles every year*

[@wilyceyote]

I’ll keep my V6 four-wheel-drive m/t Tacoma for reliability and long lasting as new gen 4 Tacoma’s and won’t be able to pull as much as the gen 3 V6 long-term it’ll be nothing but a grocery getter or a soccer mom’s truck

[@thatoneotherotherguy]

Isn't the tow capacity still at least 6500 lbs?? If I some wannabe trucker towing more than that, I would just step up to a full-size truck. As far as real-world towing, provided they got the reliability right, which I bet they did, the new engine makes waaaaay more torque than the wheezy outgoing 3.5L V6, and it makes that torque a looooot earlier in the RPM band. I highly doubt very many people are going to drive a 2023 and 2024 Tacoma back to back and think the 2023 V6 towed better. Or did much of anything better. That motor was quite unimpressive in that application, just not enough displacement for the truck in N/A form.

[@wilyceyote]

@@thatoneotherotherguy Wait and see when it comes out but still sketchable on the turbo four-cylinder Long term

[@timalan7406]

@@thatoneotherotherguy Displacement is not the problem with the current engine.

[@fahler14]

Don’t get ridiculous but yes cars are going in the wrong direction. The manual transmission days are coming to an end and naturally aspirated engines as well. You drive these new cars and they are fine but not that old school feel. I’m not living in the thing, just getting back and forth.

[@thatoneotherotherguy]

@@timalan7406 I would say it is. When in naturally aspirated form, the 3.5L did not have enough grunt for proper truck things or large tires. They come horribly geared, but changes axle gear ratios doesn't solve it either. I much prefer the older 4.0L, had more torque, and that more torque was lower down in the rev range. 3.5 liters was not quite enough liters. Now if they had added dual injection to the 4.0L at some point, that could've been really nice.

[@seumasmackinlay]

😁

[@NsXy]

Tacomas drive so bad. Finally they’re changing it up

[@clintperry799]

I think for longevity the Frontier is a better choice , over a turbo 4 !

[@UNOSGALLOS]

Crap 4cyl engine why???? will not last ..all in the plan when it gets old cost for repairs especially the turbo system..just wait and see..