Turbochargers vs Superchargers - Which Is Better?

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What's the difference between a supercharger and a turbocharger?
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What's better, a supercharger or a turbocharger? Well, while they both do a wonderful job of increasing and engine's horsepower, they go about it in quite different ways. The turbocharger relies on exhaust gas pressure to spool up a turbine to deliver more air to the engine. A supercharger on the other hand is driven by an engine belt, which rotates a compressor feeding the engine fresh air.
While ultimately both will result in more power, there are advantages to each, such as throttle characteristics, efficiency, torque curve characteristics, engine reliability, and packaging. In this video we'll discuss the pros and cons of running a supercharger or a turbocharger on your car.
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@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
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@manutyagi8019
@manutyagi8019 6 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained make a video on double drs used in formula 1
@Sold_a_dummy
@Sold_a_dummy 6 жыл бұрын
Nooooooooooooo! What have you done! Not the turbo v supercharger argument! 😮😮 Very good as usual.
@KevinRamesh
@KevinRamesh 6 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained what if we connect the shaft of the turbo to the engine (like a supercharger) and use the exhaust to drive it further? Sort of an amalgamation of a turbo charger and a super charger.. do you think the vacuum created in the exhaust port will be to large for the fins of the turbo to handle or will it help scavenge the exhaust more?
@niharthakar4983
@niharthakar4983 6 жыл бұрын
Jason please make video on power steering
@shadowninja569
@shadowninja569 6 жыл бұрын
@Engineering Explained can you make a video on the Achates Opposed Piston Engine,
@qoenntrell
@qoenntrell 6 жыл бұрын
Basically, Bwaaaah Stututututu vs Weeeeeeeeee
@1970HondaCL100
@1970HondaCL100 6 жыл бұрын
I read this in Marty's voice.
@travosk8668
@travosk8668 6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it my self
@j0lel666
@j0lel666 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine if supercharger would make noise like REEEEEEEEEE ou yeahhh
@Stralsundistmeineheimat
@Stralsundistmeineheimat 6 жыл бұрын
Koen Foo yes but turbos mute the sound thats coming from the exhaust. Superchargers not
@Chris675R
@Chris675R 6 жыл бұрын
Caner That's in my opinion the biggest downside of turbocharged engines. They simple can't keep up with the sound to supercharged an NA engines. Best example: BMW straight 6 in the M3. How lovely do they sound in the NA configuration (e36/46) and how inferior and without any character in the nowadays turbocharged versions. They sound so bad that BMW actually tunes in fake engine sound through the speaker system :-(
@muhammadisaansyari9759
@muhammadisaansyari9759 6 жыл бұрын
I think this channel can read my mind. He knows everything what i want to know about cars.
@medokn99
@medokn99 6 жыл бұрын
lmao
@EmazingGuitar
@EmazingGuitar 6 жыл бұрын
He's one of us
@Anthony-xm2gd
@Anthony-xm2gd 6 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Isa Ansyari same
@eDriver
@eDriver 6 жыл бұрын
Just try driving silent electric car, with much more power than every gasoline car. Full power instant right now from the first millisecond. Without trying, you just don't know how beautiful it is... Much mire fun, than every noisy gasoline car.
@MexMX
@MexMX 5 жыл бұрын
@@eDriver As soon as a nice electric car drops it's price to match my wallet, or I stop being poor I'll switch to electric bro. Until then, Petrol is the way to go.
@pilotavery
@pilotavery 5 жыл бұрын
My wife and I both really love your videos but I don't hear very well and she is deaf. THANK YOU FOR CAPTIONING YOUR VIDEOS
@kushpie7973
@kushpie7973 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@cursedchest6469
@cursedchest6469 4 жыл бұрын
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie
@gastongregory1167
@gastongregory1167 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a match made in heaven! Does she have a deaf sister?!
@pilotavery
@pilotavery 4 жыл бұрын
@@gastongregory1167 No lol her family refuses to learn to sign.
@solofhxcjccsubliminals5483
@solofhxcjccsubliminals5483 4 жыл бұрын
@@pilotavery That's selfish of them 😐
@lollypoofy
@lollypoofy 5 жыл бұрын
I swear, if this ends with “it depends “
@TheHidalgo99
@TheHidalgo99 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you think is it that both ways see implementation in modern cars? You may think it is because both have pros and cons depending on the situation and you couldn't be more correct.
@MiraSubieGirl
@MiraSubieGirl 5 жыл бұрын
Generally speaking "Big Capacity engine use a Supercharger, Small Capacity engine use Turbo".
@BigUriel
@BigUriel 5 жыл бұрын
@@MiraSubieGirl It's not about capacity it's whether your priority is NA-like fast throttle response and drivability or efficiency and outright performance. Turbos will always give you more power and efficiency but will also always give you lag.
@pilotavery
@pilotavery 5 жыл бұрын
@@BigUriel Turbos tend to give more efficiency, but power is really arbitrary. Typically the reason superchargers aren't as powerful is because they designed it to form a balance of efficiency. Essentially, you're trading snappiness for efficiency with a turbo.
@MiraSubieGirl
@MiraSubieGirl 5 жыл бұрын
@@BigUriel Oh sure! I generally mean though 4 bangers respond to Turbos much better than V8s. You can safely double 4 cylinder horsepower, but its not like turboing a 500hp V8 is going to get you close to 1000hp without major major work.
@David57979
@David57979 5 жыл бұрын
I dont understand how can u dislike a video with someone discussing their knowledge on something they have knowledge on. The brain is a terrible thing to waste.
@rothotborski
@rothotborski 4 жыл бұрын
Good point...maybe those people don't like "-charging" at all..*lol*
@IlMemetor72
@IlMemetor72 4 жыл бұрын
Cant waste what you dont have...
@ruemignon
@ruemignon 4 жыл бұрын
Please forgive me for rephrasing your last sentence: The brain is a good thing to have, which unfortunately someone doesn't.
@g.k.1669
@g.k.1669 4 жыл бұрын
Trolls be hating.
@lsixty30
@lsixty30 4 жыл бұрын
He gestures to the Turbo and calls it a Super and vise versa, confusing, probably just reading a script.
@markp9366
@markp9366 4 жыл бұрын
I really like how Mercedes has started this genius idea. It revs the turbo with an electric motor so that it gets that power. Once the exhaust really kicks in, it powers the turbos. It’s genius b/c u get that instant power and also get a lot of it
@jeremy144713
@jeremy144713 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah honestly hybrids are the future of sports/hyper cars having a second electric engine to power the gaps between gears or power turbos, etc has helped so much and the increase of HP they bring to the table alone.
@electric7487
@electric7487 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremy144713 I had in mind something like a gas engine with a manual or automatic and an electric motor with a CVT with a transfer case to link the two trannies' outputs together to drive the wheels. You could run your car on all-electric mode in slow traffic (like a drive-thru or in a city), then turn the engine back on once you're on the road again. And the electric motor's instant torque means almost zero turbo lag.
@yewwtooob
@yewwtooob 2 жыл бұрын
Sequencial turbo do the same thing.
@victorsimukoko9304
@victorsimukoko9304 2 жыл бұрын
@@electric7487 I get you point, so you need to switch manual or it has to be autonomous (self deciding) system ?
@electric7487
@electric7487 2 жыл бұрын
@@victorsimukoko9304 You manually switch the engine on or off.
@mac3865
@mac3865 5 жыл бұрын
Supercharger.... Nah Turbocharger....nah Superturbocharger... yee-haw
@nothingbutfaxx
@nothingbutfaxx 5 жыл бұрын
Twincharger
@datgamerboy123
@datgamerboy123 5 жыл бұрын
It's called twincharging, and in my eyes, you get the best of both worlds.
@Rob-326
@Rob-326 5 жыл бұрын
@@datgamerboy123 Wasn't it used in the Lancia Delta S4?
@datgamerboy123
@datgamerboy123 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rob-326 yes. But only in a certain year. They ran a KKK K27 turbo and an Abarth Volumex supercharger. They had 32 lbs of boost.
@andersl.359
@andersl.359 5 жыл бұрын
that's called a twin charger
@firefighter277
@firefighter277 3 жыл бұрын
He looks 20 and 40 at the same time
@superrodge8352
@superrodge8352 3 жыл бұрын
So 30.
@Mike-vo2rp
@Mike-vo2rp 3 жыл бұрын
I see 27
@thaoyen6676
@thaoyen6676 3 жыл бұрын
That's what engineer school will do to you
@RichieB40444
@RichieB40444 3 жыл бұрын
And he's actually nearly 60
@Mechjeb661
@Mechjeb661 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Scott energy
@W.Vanderbilt
@W.Vanderbilt 5 жыл бұрын
Never knew Beto O'Rourke was so informative about engines
@UMfan21
@UMfan21 4 жыл бұрын
But sounds like Napoleon Dynamite.
@mrniceguy3006
@mrniceguy3006 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@FlexSZN23
@FlexSZN23 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yes, we’re gonna take your naturally aspirated engines
@kingofshmups3390
@kingofshmups3390 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yes he's going to take away your Turbo and Superchargers
@raulquintanilla8718
@raulquintanilla8718 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@maximilianogirardi2246
@maximilianogirardi2246 6 жыл бұрын
This Channel is a tribute to physics and science application! Long Live EE
@HomieJeans
@HomieJeans 6 жыл бұрын
Maximiliano Girardi he's sold his soul.....
@christianhodges685
@christianhodges685 6 жыл бұрын
TheUnbeen ....how do you figure?
@josephmason9910
@josephmason9910 6 жыл бұрын
Tribute to physics and science application? You could just say engineering
@gigakoresh
@gigakoresh 6 жыл бұрын
Not really, he is not using scientific units!
@SS-hw1ou
@SS-hw1ou 6 жыл бұрын
Being a tuner 101
@disco.jellyfish
@disco.jellyfish 5 жыл бұрын
Biggest advantage a Turbocharger: "Ssssswududududududu"
@jeanrivera6160
@jeanrivera6160 4 жыл бұрын
Psssssss
@crosswire7777
@crosswire7777 4 жыл бұрын
The sound of fluttering is a problem
@nickmorris47
@nickmorris47 4 жыл бұрын
Jet noise / plane noise
@tokinGLX
@tokinGLX 4 жыл бұрын
sound of turbo spooling >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wastegate/bov
@briancastro8004
@briancastro8004 4 жыл бұрын
I think the major problem with turbos is the heating. They cause a lot of reliability issues if they’re not factory or a noob build.
@danielnelson9373
@danielnelson9373 3 жыл бұрын
I'm putting a 4.6 supercharged stroker in my 97 jeep wrangler. The reason I think it's best is exactly what you mentioned in that you know what you're getting from the throttle. Hard wheeling then all the sudden getting a huge boost of power with a turbo could get you into trouble. Great video 👍👍👍
@georgerivera6970
@georgerivera6970 6 жыл бұрын
Superb video. I just recently purchased a turbocharged engine vehicle and ALWAYS wondered of the difference. You explain things concisely and your visuals are on point. Thanks for your channel.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
@ZackZyzzyvin
@ZackZyzzyvin 6 жыл бұрын
I did too except I didn’t know it at first
@JockD2006
@JockD2006 6 жыл бұрын
George Rivera ii
@Swervy
@Swervy 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know if you can turbocharge an automatic?
@NervylHraje
@NervylHraje 2 жыл бұрын
@@Swervy You absolutely can. The transmission has no effect on if you can Turbo your engine.
@TechShowdown
@TechShowdown 6 жыл бұрын
I have had turbocharged and supercharged cars and I personally would still pick the Turbo mainly because of the noise and the rush as it comes on at higher rpm.
@garybulwinkle82
@garybulwinkle82 6 жыл бұрын
That's what I like about DIRT BIKES!!! It's the throttle response and engine control. There is no greater "feeling" than the throttle control on a powerful engine!!! Especially when you're sitting on it!!!
@Nick-1992-SRB
@Nick-1992-SRB 6 жыл бұрын
Your opinion is wrong Superchargers make that nice whine sound like a jet.
@tristangillis7365
@tristangillis7365 6 жыл бұрын
Blower whine > turbo whistle. I'm sorry, these are just facts.
@Tube-tv4qx
@Tube-tv4qx 6 жыл бұрын
"Facts" It's purely preference.
@myguydied
@myguydied 6 жыл бұрын
Nicks 92 videos wow his opinion is wrong? Yours is arrogant and that's way worse Granted i loved the supercharger whine on (what used to be the) V8 supercars, esp. the Holdens (GMs for u in the states, they ran chevy motors anyway) and waste gate shutterring on a turbo annoys me (not as much as a wrx that sounds like a lawnmower), but opinions aren't "wrong" or "right" because you agree or disagree theyre expressed personal feelings on a matter Just say you disagree and say what you like about superchargers, like the dude making jet noises. Simple
@jared321
@jared321 4 жыл бұрын
There’s no sound more satisfying than hearing a turbo spool
@robpotter1355
@robpotter1355 3 жыл бұрын
I am lucky enough to work on freight train engines, 3100hp. On test these units take 2 mins to make peak power. After 10 seconds or so the turbo starts to wind up to 32 psi like a jet engine taking off. As you say, the sound is something that runs though you and makes you smile. The turbo itself weighs just under a tonne, the engine weighs 32 tonnes, and the locomotive weighs 130 tonnes. ( I love these on test)
@rhull3939
@rhull3939 3 жыл бұрын
@@robpotter1355 Jesus. A 2000 lb turbo. I've had entire cars that weigh that. That's awesome. What's the displacement on one of those engines?
@robpotter1355
@robpotter1355 3 жыл бұрын
@@rhull3939 not sure about displacement but it’s a Mirrlees MB275t if you want to google it yourself? Fitted to a British Rail class 60 locomotive.
@rhull3939
@rhull3939 3 жыл бұрын
@@robpotter1355 145 liter engine with 3100 horsepower and 106,500 foot pounds of torque. Crazy.
@rahmatiTV
@rahmatiTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@rhull3939 ya but what's the 0-60 lol , damm tho
@thomasschadeberg4471
@thomasschadeberg4471 6 жыл бұрын
That was probably one of the best and most cohesive explanations of the differences between the two I have ever heard. Thank you. And I wish I had your job
@ImmortanDan
@ImmortanDan 2 жыл бұрын
That final point about throttle communication is a very important one. I recently went for a lengthy night drive in my car - a Volvo S40 - which is a turbocharged, automatic-transmission vehicle. It has some serious power for a compact daily, but between its still-pretty-slushy and aged torque converter (which would at times allow the engine to wander in the 1300-1800 RPM range without changing gear *or* actually affecting the road speed) and the turbo (which starts spooling around 2000 rpm, but will lose the boost very quickly once I stop flooring it and therefore basically has 2 different torque curves depending on now depressed the throttle is) a lot of my fun or my feeling of control was sapped. I am pretty much certain that at least one of those aspects, most likely the automatic, will not be present in the next car I purchase. What I'm about to say is not directly related to the video, but I urge anybody here who can't operate a manual to learn to do so. It's much less arduous than some people make it out to be, and provides fun, control and - on older models at least - a vastly superior fuel economy potential.
@cnorth12
@cnorth12 4 жыл бұрын
Supercharged/ naturally aspirated cars are much better for off-roading, which is something you didn’t cover. It relates to the throttle response/ rpm vs power. When you’re crawling along, or ripping through some mud, it’s helpful to get that power instantly. Also, if you’re in a tight situation, the sudden powerban from a turbo could put an unwanted amount of power to the wheels. Great video though, very informative
@goofydda6164
@goofydda6164 Жыл бұрын
Im trying to figure out whether I want to put a super VS turbo in my 07 accord v6. This is very informative 🙏
@kcwalkman
@kcwalkman 6 жыл бұрын
Jason, great video man. Been a loyal subscriber for years because of your delivery and research which seems to bring credibility to the information you provide on your channel. Thank you for sharing your awesomeness.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Very kind, thanks for watching and sticking around for so long!! Happy to hear it. :)
@PaulausDeutschland
@PaulausDeutschland 5 жыл бұрын
As a soon to be engineer i really appreciate your videos i have spent so many hours on this channel over the last couple of years to learn. Thank you for the good content!
@exedracs4029
@exedracs4029 6 жыл бұрын
Another well thought out video mate. Much love from Australia.
@statefarmkid
@statefarmkid 5 жыл бұрын
Never drove a super charged car before but this makes me really want to try. My car is turbo and pro tuned and the response seems pretty damn spot on. I have a lot of torque which is what I want for the rodes I drive but if a super charger is even more responsive I would love to see what that feels like.
@johncarry5989
@johncarry5989 11 ай бұрын
Supercharged cars are so much nicer IMO because they just feel like a naturally aspirated car. So you have more control over the throttle and also you don’t get that nasty uncomfortable jolt like in some turbo cars when the turbo kicks in.
@Sam-db4zi
@Sam-db4zi 11 ай бұрын
​@johncarry5989 The lag on a bigger turbo car can be very fun, makes the car feel faster when all the power comes in one kick.
@blanko_sama8049
@blanko_sama8049 2 жыл бұрын
Superchargers are for those of us that like instant gratification. 😅 Serious note: this video has been very informative. I respect and enjoy listening to both devices. Thank you! 👏🤘
@unholysaint1987
@unholysaint1987 6 жыл бұрын
great stuff jason... always watch your videos when the come out and havent seen a bad one
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate it, thanks for watching!
@ExhaustedOfficial
@ExhaustedOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer turbo but purely for the sound and having a snail in your engine bay 😂😂😂
@C6Z_Bob
@C6Z_Bob 6 жыл бұрын
Exhaust-ed Supercharged V8 sound much better than turbo V8s
@lunoirxx
@lunoirxx 6 жыл бұрын
Exhaust-ed But the centrifugal supercharger is also a snail.
@ExhaustedOfficial
@ExhaustedOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Bob all depends on your taste I guess mate👌🏻
@ExhaustedOfficial
@ExhaustedOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Lunoir NSX Very true, just my personal preferable but I can see how a supercharger could also be prefered👍🏻
@ExhaustedOfficial
@ExhaustedOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Muhluri Nkuna I sure have, it’s just a preference 😂
@oneoffour63
@oneoffour63 2 жыл бұрын
I liked how you put this in layman's term so that anyone can understand the pros/cons of super charger vs turbo chargers, excellent presentation.
@DaRockCRX
@DaRockCRX 6 жыл бұрын
Jason nailed it! Its the quality of inputs that makes a car great.
@justingordon2293
@justingordon2293 4 жыл бұрын
Love your ch. Bro you're very knowledgeable and can explain things in layman's term.
@JRosa-mh2hk
@JRosa-mh2hk 5 жыл бұрын
i appreciate the drama of the turbo, so much fun and worth the split second wait
@marchm78
@marchm78 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite car parts thank you for explaining 😁
@anditis29
@anditis29 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You’ve helped with my decision. Supercharger for my mustang!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Heck yes!
@elr2141979
@elr2141979 6 жыл бұрын
Andy Torres do it for Dale
@hank1556
@hank1556 6 жыл бұрын
youll be able to smash so many more crowds!
@benjaminbuljevic7977
@benjaminbuljevic7977 6 жыл бұрын
i dont like mustangs because theyre bad at cornering
@alextrainor2552
@alextrainor2552 6 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Buljevic thank you for providing your ignorance
@ironmandave3000
@ironmandave3000 4 жыл бұрын
Don't understand how anybody could thumbs-down you. You're articulate and knowledgeable. Thank you for the education.
@bishopp14
@bishopp14 2 жыл бұрын
For such a complicated subject, you actually made that pretty simple and easy to understand. Thanks dude, great video!
@tonycrispino4493
@tonycrispino4493 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. I've owned both turbocharged and supercharged and totally agree that supercharged is better.
@jpdoc5722
@jpdoc5722 Жыл бұрын
always great explanation from Jason😊 I wish all my teachers were like him.
@du4lstrik3
@du4lstrik3 5 жыл бұрын
First car was a supercharged Grand Prix. Loved that 3800 engine so much.
@JunkBondTrader
@JunkBondTrader Жыл бұрын
Just bought an 05 GTP. Deceptively fast. And the response is excellent.
@ckcharlie56
@ckcharlie56 7 ай бұрын
Those cars are amazing
@NadeemKHAN-USYZ
@NadeemKHAN-USYZ 3 жыл бұрын
Man You explained complicated charged so simply,,, you are a good teacher ,, Thank you
@dupeaccount1647
@dupeaccount1647 4 жыл бұрын
Centrifugal superchargers are great for large engine cars where you already have decent low end grunt and getting a ton of top end power is very useful.
@nick9463
@nick9463 3 жыл бұрын
I super appreciate your professional expertise and how you deliver it, thank you for the wisdom that I can understand.
@Hesho1962
@Hesho1962 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, the heat from the exhaust causes many problems , something it damaged the cylinder head completely
@gregorytrane7828
@gregorytrane7828 6 жыл бұрын
I've owned turbocharged engines and hated them because even the best design still has some turbo lag. The supercharged engines that I've owned were always a joy to drive with, because of the instant thrust and continued wider instant power band to performance ratio. I have to agree with your points on both engine variations, however and I enjoyed the video and honest evaluations.
@CodyCombat
@CodyCombat 6 жыл бұрын
I love the feel of the turbo kicking in. You feel like the car is decently fast and then the turbo works it's magic and you take off like a rocket.
@23mistakes
@23mistakes 2 жыл бұрын
That is the clearest explanation I've ever heard between the two. Kudos!
@static_mk6_gli223
@static_mk6_gli223 6 жыл бұрын
I was on a computer and I couldn't like since I wasn't logged in. So I logged in just too like. This is how I feel too!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the like, thanks for watching!
@bbkangs
@bbkangs 6 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t choose, so I just put both in my mom’s minivan
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Such a thoughtful gift!
@AshAirheart1995
@AshAirheart1995 6 жыл бұрын
Oh ma gawd hahaha I’d love you if u were my kid
@ausintune9014
@ausintune9014 6 жыл бұрын
You should get that minivan to 600hp +, then the mom mobile is perfect
@yoshiyoshida977
@yoshiyoshida977 6 жыл бұрын
I'm currently building a super minivan myself and I've given it some thought so I'm supercharging it
@hamidkiangaikani
@hamidkiangaikani Жыл бұрын
Best technical comparison I’ve ever seen in my life! Thanks bro
@nathancruz2843
@nathancruz2843 6 жыл бұрын
Haha I noticed to put a mirror on your shelves to avoid crashing your honda again! Good idea.
@iWakhloo
@iWakhloo 6 жыл бұрын
Nathan Cruz I did, too! 😂
@OscarMaris
@OscarMaris 6 жыл бұрын
lol 😂 who crashes they car in they own garage
@gigel99324
@gigel99324 6 жыл бұрын
use a balloon or tennis ball
@FlyingDropBearAU
@FlyingDropBearAU 6 жыл бұрын
Pool noodle epoxied to any surface it can touch.
@Drunken_Hamster
@Drunken_Hamster 6 жыл бұрын
I wish you would've gone over ease of installation, ease of tuning, compatibility, reliability, and durability, including how each type of compressor affects durability and reliability of the rest of the vehicle.
@ErikSeastead
@ErikSeastead 6 жыл бұрын
saving it for another video im sure
@dposcuro
@dposcuro 6 жыл бұрын
...Do you want a 9 minute video, or a 4 hour long video?
@babybirdhome
@babybirdhome 6 жыл бұрын
Superchargers win those hands down too. At least the types that don't pretend to be a turbo.
@lbear3321
@lbear3321 6 жыл бұрын
Goldmarble He's a lefty so he doesn't know what he wants.
@christianhodges685
@christianhodges685 6 жыл бұрын
babybirdhome eh it depends. I prefer supercharging generally speaking, but the fab work if there are no kits for your vehicle is usually simpler for turbos imo. Tunability I think is simpler with sc's though, there's a more definitive relationship between rpm and airflow
@CouldUseARide
@CouldUseARide 2 жыл бұрын
Interested to see what the turbo vs super debate becomes with AMG's new e-Turbo. Basically they use an electric motor to lower the boost threshold to _almost_ eliminate turbo lag entirely. Still a teeny bit there since it takes time to get the crank shaft moving.
@COMB0RICO
@COMB0RICO 6 жыл бұрын
Really good video, especially about how turbos are harder on oil. I've never heard that before -- makes sense, though.
@electric7487
@electric7487 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Turbos are very precision devices whose rotors can spin at up to 5000 revolutions _per second._ The internals have very tight tolerances and only work properly if they are fully warmed up and are getting clean oil delivered to them at all times. And yet my parents keep telling me that I don't need to warm my car up.
@OmmerSyssel
@OmmerSyssel 3 жыл бұрын
@@electric7487 shouldn't that technical sensitivity be compensated by higher oil quality? No modern engines are officially recommended an explicit warm up period, rather the contrary.
@electric7487
@electric7487 3 жыл бұрын
@@OmmerSyssel Not warming up your engine doesn't mean everything is just gonna blow up, it just shortens its lifetime.
@ImmortanDan
@ImmortanDan 2 жыл бұрын
@@OmmerSyssel I have a rather modern turbocharged engine in my Volvo S40. It doesn't need a true, hard warmup, but it A) has a cold-start feature which helps with the initial stages of a warmup with a quicker idle and B) the manual states that you should refrain from revving the engine (and thus running the turbo hard) for the first several minutes of operation. All this points to the fact that even modern engines - especially turbocharged ones - are meant to only operate at peak power one they reach operational temperature, even if they're technically capable of doing so from startup.
@RealSteelStreet
@RealSteelStreet Жыл бұрын
Always better for longevity to let ANY engine warm up…also highly recommended to let them run at idle for a cool down period before shutting off, especially turbo(s)👌🏼
@iamesko
@iamesko 5 жыл бұрын
Why not both?
@Hebdomad7
@Hebdomad7 5 жыл бұрын
Nissan Super Turbo. Search MCM super turbos and temples 2
@ark2380
@ark2380 5 жыл бұрын
Volvo has employed both in it's suv
@rustyshakelford4232
@rustyshakelford4232 5 жыл бұрын
Some Detroit diesel engines use both.
@harryking4007
@harryking4007 5 жыл бұрын
Devin Christy both? at the same time will get into each others way. Very difficult to run both at the same time and be efficient.
@davidrolland150
@davidrolland150 5 жыл бұрын
@@harryking4007 not when each of them run best at different ends of the rpm range, supercharger runs best at lower end while turbocharger runs best at upper end
@SerajEmad
@SerajEmad 4 жыл бұрын
Turbo doesn't make free energy The exhaust gases have to escape as easy as possible, that's why bigger exhaust pipe=more efficient. The turbo is creating a resistance and thus using fuel energy in an indirect manner. Please correct this...
@karlreisa3872
@karlreisa3872 4 жыл бұрын
SERAJ EMAD yes but turbos aid in compression
@SerajEmad
@SerajEmad 4 жыл бұрын
@@karlreisa3872 ofcource it does, supercharger too, what I mean it is a resistance if it is on the exhaust (turbo) or by a belt (supercharger). however, you need to remember that turbo works in high temperature and has a high rpm plus it needs an intercooler = additional weight. More over if the turbo go bad it is very likely that it will inject oil (turbo is oil cooled) into the engine instead of air which will destroy it in a matter of second...
@SerajEmad
@SerajEmad 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThatWasPrettyFunny through the video he said: turbo make use of exhaust gases instead of being wasted...
@SerajEmad
@SerajEmad 4 жыл бұрын
Long story short. it is a resistance if it is on the exhaust (turbo) or by a belt (supercharger). however, you need to remember that turbo works in high temperature and has a high rpm = easy to break, plus it needs an intercooler = additional weight. More over if the turbo go bad it is very likely that it will inject oil (turbo is oil cooled) into the engine instead of air which will destroy it in a matter of second... Supper charger is better in every way, and more expensive, also harder to install. but some times you cannot have it duo to the lack of space...
@kieveyepth2730
@kieveyepth2730 4 жыл бұрын
@@SerajEmad You here whinning on the internet saying super charger is better while people out there who play with cars and engines everyday likes and use turbo charger because it handles better and is more cooler
@airriongalloway6998
@airriongalloway6998 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2014 Audi A7 and that super charger was actually very responsive. I now have a 2017 G90 and the twin turbo on the V6 are pretty good also there is a bit of turbo lag but it’s not noticeable to the untrained or informed person. I do miss that throw you back in the seat feeling with the A7.
@larrydeason5970
@larrydeason5970 6 жыл бұрын
This guy is really dedicated. I love it .God bless you dude
@kain35m
@kain35m 6 жыл бұрын
How is nobody talking about the fact that he's got an animation of a 26b TURBO That friggin thing would make a million horsepower. Yes please!
@paulg444
@paulg444 3 жыл бұрын
great video, I like the idea of a very long stroke with a turbo charger. The biggest down side of the turbo is the intercooler.. I have 3 radiators on the front of myvehicle, one for the turbo, one for the engine coolant and one for the AC.
@caseyjones3684
@caseyjones3684 3 жыл бұрын
The Video should be named The Connectivity of The Forced Induction Automobile & Man !!!!!!! Great explanation. Spot On
@andrewhixson2235
@andrewhixson2235 4 жыл бұрын
I've driven a setup with a twin turbo and a supercharger. Probably the best being put into my seat felling I've ever had.
@justinlabarge8178
@justinlabarge8178 6 жыл бұрын
Rob where is the 4 ro... Oh shoot, wrong channel.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, though it is his turbo!
@malijames12
@malijames12 6 жыл бұрын
The 4 rotor's been hiding over here. We have to tell EVERYONE
@m_wijaya
@m_wijaya 3 жыл бұрын
finally, this video answers all my big questions on turbo and super chargers. thank you very much for the education. super charger it is for me then.
@jagstrguy847
@jagstrguy847 6 жыл бұрын
I love my supercharger That whine😍
@oldblood_eyes
@oldblood_eyes 6 жыл бұрын
Superchargers FTW! Just listen to the sound of a hellcat supercharger. It's just orgasmic!!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
The hellcat supercharger whine at mid-throttle is 👌👌
@oldblood_eyes
@oldblood_eyes 6 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained I got a reply from the man himself!! 😲😲 And hell yeah!!
@eDriver
@eDriver 6 жыл бұрын
Best sound is electric car. Very silent and something like the supercharger sound, without that enormous combustion engine sound.
@rccipriani
@rccipriani 6 жыл бұрын
I love that sound, sounds like a jet engine.
@yodawg3469
@yodawg3469 6 жыл бұрын
The '03 and '04 Cobra's had that beautiful whine as well
@dkoning373
@dkoning373 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation video I've seen on KZbin. Thank you so much!
@sleepingbackbone7581
@sleepingbackbone7581 5 жыл бұрын
I learned something. Thank you.
@OzzieSean
@OzzieSean 6 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, you explain the content so clearly and concisely. Keep it coming!
@whyqu.i.t
@whyqu.i.t 5 жыл бұрын
Very valid points on both alike. And turbo lag is real but overcoming turbo lag is achievable
@MajorMalfunction
@MajorMalfunction 5 жыл бұрын
I personally love the way the turbo boost winds up. It's exhilarating. Put your foot down. Wait for it. Wait for it.. Wait for it... Here it comes! Wooooo!!! I also enjoy the intricacy of throttle, gear, RPM, and timing control. It's not hard to stay in the powerband if you know your car.
@bogota2464
@bogota2464 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!
@JunkBondTrader
@JunkBondTrader Жыл бұрын
Supercharger put your foot down wooooooo!!!
@AnthonySvt_
@AnthonySvt_ 6 жыл бұрын
I still like supercharges because of the whine and no lag
@_Drekavac_
@_Drekavac_ 5 жыл бұрын
Ok i dont know alot about cars. I have a TDI engine and my friend says i could use a supercharger, is that possible? 😂
@Jv19979
@Jv19979 5 жыл бұрын
Turbos are better tdis have no lag
@rosegold-beats
@rosegold-beats 5 жыл бұрын
Rather lag and more power
@richdf5664
@richdf5664 5 жыл бұрын
Modern turbocharged cars have minimal turbo lag. My 2004 Audi hits peak boost at less than 2000rpms. Not to meantion theres newer cars out there that will hit peak boost before even 1600rpms.
@carlover5911
@carlover5911 5 жыл бұрын
Antilag........ Turbo boost without lag (I think that is Howe it Workshop)
@hunterherzog4788
@hunterherzog4788 4 жыл бұрын
I really like your throttle pedal analogy and how they differ for supercharger and turbos makes a lot of sense
@char-lezbraden4837
@char-lezbraden4837 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Exactly what I needed to know.
@sammylam1649
@sammylam1649 4 жыл бұрын
honestly, the problem he mentioned about turbochargers having lag and superchargers having better pedal communication only applies if you are relatively new to the car. after spending some time with a turbocharged car, the driver should be able to fully understand its characteristics and thus will be able to get what exactly he wants from the car. most boosted racecars with experienced drivers who won't face the miscommunication issue use turbochargers and not superchargers for a reason. turbochargers and simply better if the driver is good.
@lordgriselbrand4600
@lordgriselbrand4600 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why the 10,000 horsepower + drag cars I've seen do a quarter mile in 3 seconds use superchargers then?
@anthonyhooper6764
@anthonyhooper6764 2 жыл бұрын
Na dont agree at all. You need to spend alot of money on a turbo charged car to getnitntonthe same response as a supercharged factory standard car. Then you soend the same money on a already amaizng response supercharged car and you have annihilation of any turbocharged car.
@JunkBondTrader
@JunkBondTrader Жыл бұрын
nah you cant get the same response as you do from a supercharger, its well known.
@timothymuir5167
@timothymuir5167 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, I now possess a clear understanding of the difference between super chargers and turbo chargers, thank you !
@HMan2828
@HMan2828 5 жыл бұрын
You don't really have to choose between the two. Feed the supercharger output into the turbo intakes. It will help overcome turbo lag, get them spooling early and supplement them in times of need to achieve their full potential.
@electric7487
@electric7487 2 жыл бұрын
I think the better solution is to feed the turbos into the supercharger and then bypass the SC once the turbos' boost outflows it. To save fuel you could even de-clutch the SC at idle. The turbo versions of Detroit Diesel's 2-stroke Diesel engines did the exact same thing except the blower is always engaged and is required for scavenging. The turbos boost and scavenge once they've spooled up.
@isbeartlh
@isbeartlh 2 жыл бұрын
So you want to use engine power to make more power? Did you think this through at all?
@GOLD_FEVER
@GOLD_FEVER 2 жыл бұрын
@@isbeartlh Yes and not just me but MULTIPLE TUNERS AND ENGINEERS have, and guess what else? It works! You literally described a supercharger lol.
@rayzecor
@rayzecor 2 жыл бұрын
@@isbeartlh Did you even watch the video? That is what a supercharger does.
@brucefrencham2628
@brucefrencham2628 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Volvo did do that with their T6 engine.
@DaisyHead666
@DaisyHead666 6 жыл бұрын
I personally love *BOTH* of ‘em.
@Louisiana_Levitator06
@Louisiana_Levitator06 4 жыл бұрын
This is my solution. My Grandpa wanted me to find the difference between a Turbocharger and a Supercharger: so I decided to check out some videos on KZbin. This 1 is PERFECT 👌
@scribehades
@scribehades 6 жыл бұрын
Superchargers all the way! Thank you sir.
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 5 жыл бұрын
Have the beat of both worlds- compound boosting!
@josephgonzalez4289
@josephgonzalez4289 5 жыл бұрын
Wow this dude is really smart he makes everything seem so simple and it makes total sense of everything, tons of knowledge, I think he said he was an automotive journalist should have been an engineer
@mountaincarjunkie3307
@mountaincarjunkie3307 5 жыл бұрын
He went to school to be an engineer from what I'm aware. Most of what I understand about cars comes from this channel. He puts complicated concepts into layman's terms and understandings which makes it very easy to learn.
@cryban7011
@cryban7011 6 жыл бұрын
for me NA and mechanical throttlebody is still the best throttle response.. :)
@DanielOrtegoUSA
@DanielOrtegoUSA 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer cubes of NA as well.
@twoscoops5197
@twoscoops5197 6 жыл бұрын
I really, really enjoy your videos!!!!!!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@eiland369
@eiland369 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, you actually gave your honest opinion and didn’t waffle between both.
@sarah_aaron40
@sarah_aaron40 3 жыл бұрын
I would rather use bwaaaaaaaaaaaahhh stustustu
@TTime685
@TTime685 6 жыл бұрын
Turbo spool>Supercharger whine
@sctm81
@sctm81 6 жыл бұрын
TTime685 have you heard the hellcat whine ....
@DwainDwight
@DwainDwight 3 жыл бұрын
agree - in a sports car, I like that instant throttle response, but I think today in July 2021 - turbo lag is getting close to zero.
@LITTLE1994
@LITTLE1994 4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to put a good supercharger in my 1989 Crown Victoria LX in the future. I have plans to make it a sleeper.
@explosiveboy321
@explosiveboy321 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm planning on doing the exact same, but I have a 1999 crown vic LX
@ДжерретНет
@ДжерретНет 5 жыл бұрын
Supercharger is more reliable robust system . turbo is more complex and more moving parts and more expensive to fix
@aklol7384
@aklol7384 4 жыл бұрын
True said
@bitTorrenter
@bitTorrenter 4 жыл бұрын
Is the energy lost from the engine powering the supercharger reclaimed by it's use? What I mean is, does a supercharger give back more power than a turbo after taking into account losses?
@briancastro8004
@briancastro8004 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent answer I would say the supercharger is more reliable and easier to build and make work properly. Turbos have that heating issue so if the car doesn’t come stock with turbo and you’re trying to make a no turbo car turbo. You’re going to have a hard time that thing is going to be heating everywhere specially if you’re a noob.
@davidsmal5510
@davidsmal5510 4 жыл бұрын
@@bitTorrenter yeah
@GB3770
@GB3770 4 жыл бұрын
@@briancastro8004 plus trubo lag and superchargers dont
@ian2372
@ian2372 2 жыл бұрын
My 2018 hellcat challenger is the most fun I've ever had and I've had four turbo cars in the past. The supercharger whine from the belt and the immediate response is addictive and why I now swear by superchargers.
@davmar9923
@davmar9923 5 жыл бұрын
Nitpick. A turbocharger is a supercharger, just a shortened description for convenience, i.e., the full technical name of a turbo is "turbo-supercharger. Superchargers are mechanically driven compressors. Turbos are exhaust turbine driven compressors. Soon we will have "electro-superchargers" (please don't say "electric turbos", which would be nonsensical) as manufacturers are introducing compressors driven by electric motors. These will have tremendous advantages over current mechanical technology, e.g., instant response and the ability to vary the compressor speed completely independently from the engine RPM's.
@woobilicious.
@woobilicious. 5 жыл бұрын
renault demonstrates an "electric turbo" on their KZbin (search "Renault Energy F1") , it's a turbocharger, with an EV system to pre spool the turbo, and capture waste energy while slowing, it's a standard turbo operating like a normal turbo most of the time.
@adibz959
@adibz959 5 жыл бұрын
Isnt f1 engine electric-turbo? Why you said dont call it electric turbo?
@anthonyesposito9251
@anthonyesposito9251 5 жыл бұрын
Dav Mar Thank you for pointing out whether belt driven or exhaust driven,compressing the air is Super Charging.
@johnfau06
@johnfau06 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to cover electric boosters too. Also, what about using an exhaust turbine to generate electricity and store in say a super capacitor and use that power for super charging?
@highfighter219er5
@highfighter219er5 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like it would be a very complex and expensive system.
@dustinswatsons9150
@dustinswatsons9150 2 жыл бұрын
Y'all just be patient and wait for an electrical engineer to say something about it all at least this topic right up
@jameskielland5018
@jameskielland5018 Жыл бұрын
Here's the problem with electric supercharging:. Where does the power come from? Ultimately the alternator. So instead of a belt driving the supercharger you're just using a belt to drive a larger alternator, creating your electricity, and then feeding that energy into an electric motor which is driving your supercharger. So more weight and complexity AND less efficiency.
@BlaqRaq
@BlaqRaq 4 жыл бұрын
Just be a troublemaker of sort: A turbocharger is really a subset of superchargers. BUT I know, we just use turbo vs super to differentiate between the two main “types” of supercharging. There’s even electric supercharger now. Still not as efficient as the turbo. Now we are sapping electric energy from the alternator which demands mechanical power from the engine. However, quicker boost than both the exhaust supercharger (turbocharger) and the belt driven supercharger (supercharger). Anyway, still meaty information from you again. Keep it nice and clean as always.
@_j.a9586
@_j.a9586 4 жыл бұрын
When I see a picture of both on the internet they are different to the one he touches when he talks about them.
@emilianobenavides4630
@emilianobenavides4630 3 жыл бұрын
I was getting so confused as well so I searched it up, I knew for a fact that the one he was touching was a turbo charger but I started to doubt lol
@BiggMo
@BiggMo 5 жыл бұрын
Engine bay geometry can limit the application of superchargers. Turbos have a greater range of installation (location) options, plus you need to consider center of gravity when choosing location of the equipment
@Ima184mm
@Ima184mm 2 жыл бұрын
Good Explain about Con and Pro
@minimanadam
@minimanadam 5 жыл бұрын
Roots style sc is my favorite boost maker . I love that whine and instant boost
@straightupgutta
@straightupgutta 4 жыл бұрын
I agree 100 percent. nothing beats the whine sound
@Kieva_Storm
@Kieva_Storm 5 жыл бұрын
For me, it depends on application. My Cruze's turbocharger makes sense. I wanted a car that got a very high mpg, and found 42 to 50 highway, and the 1.4T certainly provides. As for Superchargers? Well, the Hellcat wouldn't be such a ballbuster with twin turbos. Also, fun fact, many modern turbochargers are coolant cooled, so the con of the oil suffering can be (mostly) disregarded.
@justicewarrior9187
@justicewarrior9187 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer supercharger!! Nothing like having the power right there unlike having a boost a few moments later and that can be crucial in split second situations!!
@kender1412
@kender1412 5 жыл бұрын
You just need to.learn how to launch your car or do a better job of matching the right turbo to the right engine. I have NEVER had to wait for my turbo to spool. If you want moderate point and click power, go with a big ass blower. If you want to get the most out of your engine, choose the appropriate turbo for the car and learn how to f'ing drive.
@Tim.1113
@Tim.1113 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Nichols I’m still waiting for my turbo to spool up.
@glorybenjamin771
@glorybenjamin771 Жыл бұрын
i liked your explanations, is very clear
@beaman7263
@beaman7263 5 жыл бұрын
My Volvo XC90 T8 has both turbocharged and supercharged, they work very smooth and powerful! Plus an electric motor, this SUV is a super car!
@Rob-326
@Rob-326 5 жыл бұрын
You want to say that it is twin-charged. :)
@momo.ru-kun
@momo.ru-kun 5 жыл бұрын
Now I am confused. Isn't the turbocharger on your left and the supercharger on your right?
@philnleblanc6664
@philnleblanc6664 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the feeling of the power building up in turbo charges engines.
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