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What's The Best Fuel Injection? Carburetors vs Port vs Direct

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Engineering Explained

Engineering Explained

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@EBuff75
@EBuff75 4 жыл бұрын
That was one of the clearest explanations that I've ever heard for how a carburetor works. Thank you very much for that!
@benc8386
@benc8386 4 жыл бұрын
It was a good explanation but they aren't really quite that simple because a venturi doesn't give you the right air/fuel mixture across the range of throttle openings. So they have emulsion tubes and things to hack it.
@Abb0nz1
@Abb0nz1 4 жыл бұрын
@EBuff75 - I was going to say the same thing.
@superdupergrover9857
@superdupergrover9857 4 жыл бұрын
If you ever want to go further down the rabbit hole, go to Uncle Tony's Garage youtube channel before anywhere else. He explains things in normal car person terms and isn't delusional about carbs either.
@scottmcgahey9720
@scottmcgahey9720 4 жыл бұрын
the diagram was terrible the fuels level is always lower than the secondary venturis outlet other wise it would just gravity feed constantly that is why the float level is a critical adjustment it is suprising because this bloke is always spot on
@benjaminwands4663
@benjaminwands4663 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottmcgahey9720 If it was a video about carbs exclusively or much more detailed as most carbs are quite a bit more then that I'm sure he would have been accurate and said something about that.
@cloverasx
@cloverasx 4 жыл бұрын
I always feel like I have a good understanding of how most vehicle systems work and with every one of your videos you teach me something completely new.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear it, thanks for watching Aaron!
@millomweb
@millomweb 4 жыл бұрын
Fancy explaining the propulsion system on Fred Flintstone's car ? ;)
@fasteddie2413
@fasteddie2413 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you decided to make KZbin your career. Always educating.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 4 жыл бұрын
So kind of you, thanks! :)
@andersonng1709
@andersonng1709 4 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained I'm curious now what would be your career if u didn't switch to youtube
@SharikhKhan138
@SharikhKhan138 4 жыл бұрын
When people moved from carburettors to injectors... They literally cut down on carbs...
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 4 жыл бұрын
Now they're fueling their appetite in different ways.
@juliojonathan8348
@juliojonathan8348 4 жыл бұрын
Sharikh Khaan get out, you
@SharikhKhan138
@SharikhKhan138 4 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained Oh my god, thank you so much! I love your channel!
@samosrakar
@samosrakar 4 жыл бұрын
Why not use both carburetor multyport and direct together
@juliojonathan8348
@juliojonathan8348 4 жыл бұрын
Samo Srakar 1) adds unnecessary complexity 2) carbs and multipoint fuel injection both mix the air and fuel before entering the cylinders 3) the air-fuel mix would be too rich 4) it hurts your mpg Some engines run on both multipoint and direct fuel injection, but usually in engines running so much air to be burned (usually from excessive boost like you get on a Koenigsegg Jesko), or on engines using different rpm-dependent fuel-feeding strategies: multipoint/port injection on low rpm and direct injection on high rpm
@teopolitis
@teopolitis 4 жыл бұрын
"Carburators haven't been used in any production vehicles in decades" Lada Niva laughs in the background
@nasonguy
@nasonguy 4 жыл бұрын
Even most modern motorcycles have switched to EFI... Then there's Lada...
@bkalinic
@bkalinic 4 жыл бұрын
Only carburetor
@oditeomnes
@oditeomnes 4 жыл бұрын
I had to do some research, it seems that they actually made a new petrol engine (1.7i) with a singlepoint injection and 5 manual gears. Pre-1994 1.6 had indeed a carb and 4 manual gears. Still the simplicity of even modern Niva makes me want to buy it for garage mechanic hobby.
@bkalinic
@bkalinic 4 жыл бұрын
@oditeomnes My neighbor still has a 1.7i Lada Niva. Could you imagine how much does it smell on gasoline from behind? It's kinda funny and I think it has a carb
@rob21
@rob21 4 жыл бұрын
I guess he's not a motorcycle guy.
@AntonioBarba_TheKaneB
@AntonioBarba_TheKaneB 4 жыл бұрын
I hope one day you'll cover motorcycle engines, nobody else is doing it on youtube, and you have all the right ingredients to make good quality content and tons of views!
@TheEsseboy
@TheEsseboy 4 жыл бұрын
Missed The workshop?
@Ratkill9000
@Ratkill9000 4 жыл бұрын
There's a few on here. Watched one about a week ago on how the constant mesh transmission on a bike works. Every 4 stroke engine pretty much runs on the same principle of; suck, squeeze, bang, blow.
@samfedorka5629
@samfedorka5629 4 жыл бұрын
@MunroM84 there's a LOT of differences other than them usually being oversquare. Ducati has desmo instead of valve springs which is different. The transmissions are very different. Many of them use ITBs which are different (than most car engines). Carbs were on motorcycles way up until the 2000's. I'm not "in" to motorcycles that much, so there might even be new ones with carbs. MotoGP used 2 stroke engines until very recently. Those are way different than 4 stroke engines in cars.
@DocKhan
@DocKhan 4 жыл бұрын
Check out Matt at The Workshop. He makes detailed videos on motorcycle engines and everything else. He's also an engineer so his explanations carry just as much, if not more, technical information.
@erikhordnes1641
@erikhordnes1641 4 жыл бұрын
The Workshop is an incredible channel, my only regret is not watching him more
@gowthamogowtham3029
@gowthamogowtham3029 4 жыл бұрын
I just finished my Mech Engineering exam on Internal Combustion Engines. Just about time for this video! So fresh to see real components in contrast to pics from the slides!
@arifazman4621
@arifazman4621 4 жыл бұрын
chapter 1 ICE
@davidscott5903
@davidscott5903 4 жыл бұрын
My biggest complaint about college was that almost every class was all formulas and theories on the board. The best teachers brought in examples of real world applications, like when my statics professor brought in a rubber I beam that you could bend and really feel the difference in the moment of inertia depending on which way you bent it.
@millomweb
@millomweb 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure that was mech eng and not history ? We're all going electric !
@sergio3674
@sergio3674 4 жыл бұрын
I feel you bro
@JudyAbbott494
@JudyAbbott494 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidscott5903 That's one nice teacher. I always had difficulty understanding the inertia thing.
@Nexlingz
@Nexlingz 4 жыл бұрын
11:17 jump scare
@dustinmorrison6315
@dustinmorrison6315 4 жыл бұрын
How neat!
@romirsarangi4341
@romirsarangi4341 3 жыл бұрын
Very neat
@MasterKeyMagic
@MasterKeyMagic 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the best fuel system: Car Enthusiast: Carburetor Mechanic: Port Injection Engineer: Direct Injection
@ryadhasanahmed5443
@ryadhasanahmed5443 4 жыл бұрын
I hate Direct Injection it pisses me off
@raysears5439
@raysears5439 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Dual Injection
@dildoshwaggins1017
@dildoshwaggins1017 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryadhasanahmed5443 and why?
@johannesdatblue4164
@johannesdatblue4164 4 жыл бұрын
politics: no fuel injection
@ryadhasanahmed5443
@ryadhasanahmed5443 4 жыл бұрын
@@dildoshwaggins1017 carbon build up, my dad's BMW is suffering from that right now
@Devilacme
@Devilacme 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video about mechanical fuel injection, like Bosch KE-Jetronic etc.
@archygrey9093
@archygrey9093 4 жыл бұрын
Both my mercs have it, its pretty cool how they still work even with the electronic side of it unplugged
@davidscott5903
@davidscott5903 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@kevink2315
@kevink2315 4 жыл бұрын
Agree. I had The basic Bosch CIS system on 2 cars, but there are other mechanical systems like on early Corvetts.
@davebarenberg4922
@davebarenberg4922 4 жыл бұрын
i have this k jetronic on my 1993 mercedes benz 300E 2.8. . .never needs maintenance always works without adjustment. that is on the benz 104 engine.
@znoop72
@znoop72 4 жыл бұрын
Or the far superior system Bosch Kugelfischer Injection system.
@davidscott5903
@davidscott5903 4 жыл бұрын
I love diesels, and know tons about them, but I was wondering if there's any chance of you making a video about how diesels work to help others understand how they work. And if you wanted to go down a rabbit hole, then you could do a series of videos about how the diesel fuel injectors and pumps have changed over time.
@R4M_Tommy
@R4M_Tommy 4 жыл бұрын
Considering that common rail injectors work at 10x the pressure of Direct injectors in gas engines, that would be cool.
@stevewilson9792
@stevewilson9792 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the older Detroit Diesel 2-stroke covered. They would give the driver a work out shifting the trans all day. Back in the day, they were not my favorite to drive. Now, I like all their noise.
@kalebpersinger7864
@kalebpersinger7864 4 жыл бұрын
try adept ape channel
@chrisbragdon5901
@chrisbragdon5901 4 жыл бұрын
David Scott, that’s one big technical issue I’ve had for quite awhile now. How do these 3 liter, 4 cylinder turbo diesels work so well, unlike the old diesel motors that had no power, made lots of racket and smoke? They must be a form of direct injection that earmark diesel motors, but I’l be damned, I can’t even find the throttle plate on these new turbo Diesel engines! Can’t find the “theory of operation” book here.
@davidscott5903
@davidscott5903 4 жыл бұрын
@Ohio Boy I don't know if you even deserve a reply, but I am willing to waste a little time. I am a mechanical engineer who has rebuilt a 7.3 powerstroke along with a couple gas engines, and if you want to, you can go check out my comments on Jason's other video where he describes the Achates opposed-piston diesel, where I talk about using steam injection to clean up the emissions and eliminate the need for an EGR system and how it will increase power and efficiency both. I also did one of my senior reports in thermodynamics on this topic and my professor was impressed and said that it is a promising approach. I have noticed from replies to comments though, that very few people understand what compression ignition is and how it works and why it is so much better than spark ignition. Since Jason is great at explaining things in a way that helps others understand subjects that are new to them, and has a fan base that can potentially reach out to millions of people, I thought that it would be better for him to make the video, than for me to make the video.
@danebeck7900
@danebeck7900 4 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I was confused by the Bernoulli effect. It made sense that pushing the same volume of air through a smaller hole requires it to speed up, but I didn't understand why the pressure drops? I now understand it's because air has mass and requires a force to accelerate it. The pressure drop through a venturi creates a net force that accelerates the air. The Bernoulli effect is a consequence of Newton's laws.
@DeadlyGhostrider
@DeadlyGhostrider 4 жыл бұрын
Hello EE from Canada. Thank you for uploading such great videos. Love watching them. 🙏🙏
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words, thanks for watching! :)
@cS-nf2dg
@cS-nf2dg 4 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained You have many Canadian fans ;)
@davidmorales2887
@davidmorales2887 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on this video and your always interesting explanations. I would like to mention, though, a couple of important mistakes I noted: 1. Gasoline in an engine does not explode, it deflagrates, which is a controlled combustion. The only time when it explodes is when the dreaded instantaneous and uncontrolled detonation, or pinging, occurs, which engineers of course want to prevent. 2. The purpose of carburetor sprays and fuel injectors is to atomize, not vaporize, the fuel. Atomized fuel maintains a high density while being very effective in reducing the air charge temperature, increasing its density. Vaporized fuel, having a much lower density, reduces efficiency. The idea is to get all the air/fuel mixture all the way into the cylinder in this atomized state, to preserve a high density and ideal air/fuel ratio. The biggest disadvantage of carburetors-and for that matter, throttle-body injection-is not that they are imprecise per se, but that the plumbing between them and the cylinder is less than ideal: part of the mist of fuel droplets tends to separate from the air charge at the turns and nooks of the intake system and puddle on the walls, and another part tends to vaporize due to the heat they find along their path. That is one of the reasons why 1-carburetor-per-cylinder systems of the Weber DCOE type, with their mostly straight individual runners (which are also unaffected by the intake pulses of adjacent cylinders) can offer both better economy and power than a conventional single- or double-barrel carburetor on a multiple-port manifold.
@markbedross8721
@markbedross8721 4 жыл бұрын
So.. semantics. Lol.
@kyzor-sosay6087
@kyzor-sosay6087 4 жыл бұрын
Heads Mess there’s always one
@michaelhansen7516
@michaelhansen7516 2 жыл бұрын
important distinctions, thanks
@soundseeker63
@soundseeker63 4 жыл бұрын
A good and thorough overview of the different fuel systems in gas cars, though I was surprised no reference was made to catalytic converters, which is essentially what mandated the switch from carburetors to electronic injectors back in the late 80s - early 90s. Now as then, emission regulations are what have required manufacturers to come up with these complicated dual injection engines to meet emission standards at low loads while providing acceptable performance at high loads. Perhaps you could do a video just on the evolution of emission control systems and how they have shaped modern engines?
@mennovanlavieren3885
@mennovanlavieren3885 4 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting, although getting political is not really EE's cup of tea. I wonder what kind of designs we would have if manufacturers were free to design according to demand. Would we have a race to the bottom with lots of corner cutting or would we have even more efficient engines as more engine types were explored and engines were kept simple and pragmatic.
@LordOfSilense
@LordOfSilense 4 жыл бұрын
@@mennovanlavieren3885 Race to the bottom. Engines before emissions were massively inefficient since they could just up the cylinder size to make more power. That's why we had production cars with 8+ liter engines not even pushing 200hp. Especially moreso when you compare what the "bottom end" of back then was compared to the "bottom end" of nowadays. We can already see what happens when a manufacture is free to design according to demand, that's why General Motors always needs a bailout. People don't actually want what made all of the old cars "great".
@brenj
@brenj 4 жыл бұрын
I second this suggestion!
@Mach141
@Mach141 4 жыл бұрын
It was 1986, and had nothing to do with catalytic onverters
@soundseeker63
@soundseeker63 4 жыл бұрын
@@mennovanlavieren3885 Focusing on the engine design its self isn't political unless one tries to debate the merits and demerits of government sanctioned environmental regulation, which I wasn't suggesting and I don't think is particularly relevant to the channel.
@jacksonmehlape6144
@jacksonmehlape6144 4 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to this channel because its intellectually engaging! Your 'petrolheadedness' is on another level, I am keen to understanding it!
@masterofdisaster492
@masterofdisaster492 4 жыл бұрын
Using a small pocket of rich a/f mixture next to the spark plug and running the rest of it more lean is what the Honda cvcc engines were back in like the 70s
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Very cool stuff for the time, even today haha. It's a technique similar to what is used in Formula 1 as well. Mercedes engine efficiency is wild as a result: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYDLnpqmoM58nMk
@ssllhh100
@ssllhh100 4 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained but it makes a lot of NOx emissions ... if onoy there was a way to reduce the air density for efficiency ... oh wait there is the dirty EGR to do so
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 4 жыл бұрын
Wow amazing, I had to look that up to check (Not that I didn't take your word for it🙀)...1971 Holy moly! Mr Honda himself developed it.
@ozzymandius666
@ozzymandius666 4 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained Some diesel engines use a camshaft/plunger to actuate mechanical direct injection. Seems to be to be a good system.
@masterofdisaster492
@masterofdisaster492 4 жыл бұрын
@@martinda7446 I'm an old fart, when he started describing it, it sounded familiar
@michaelskinner896
@michaelskinner896 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and a very clear explanation of the different types of injection! The stratified charge portion was quite interesting. Thanks for doing this one.
@cme2cau
@cme2cau 4 жыл бұрын
I have one of each! A 1980 Bedford van (carb) , 2005 Corolla (port injection) 2009 Golf (direct injection) 2018 86 (dual injection) . They all work! It amazes me that the 86 can run 12.6:1 compression ratio due to the wonders of direct injection (as Al from The Skid Factory explained to me). Another advantage.
@anandhakannan552
@anandhakannan552 4 жыл бұрын
Points, Carburetor & kick starter make a perfect combo.
@tomnwoo
@tomnwoo 4 жыл бұрын
Tool kit under the saddle and you are done, 70's Honda FTW
@Incab
@Incab 4 жыл бұрын
The vid didn't mention repair either. Should of been considered when grading "best" system. Carb and point is so much easier to maintain.
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 4 жыл бұрын
@@Incab I hate carbs and points!!!! Had a 1970 Volvo with both; was working on it forever. I always knew when it was time to file or replace the points (every couple months): the engine would get balky and the clutch would be really ragged. The throttle pivot was worn out as well, letting air in and making the idle unreliable. Much less maintenance with electronic ignition and port injection. Made it 200K miles in my last Prius without touching either one.
@Incab
@Incab 4 жыл бұрын
@@flagmichael That's just a bad car, not a bad system. Look at the cost difference between an average carb kit and rotor cap vs the injection system and computer chip on the prius. Substantial. To each their own but I would rather have a 1978 F-150 than a 2020 F-150.
@RodFleming-World
@RodFleming-World 4 жыл бұрын
I'll concede on transistor ignition. But the rest of the BS you can keep. FI: I have 12 vehicles and not one has injection. Just keep it.
@reistje
@reistje 4 жыл бұрын
Port injection is my favorite for sure, it can be very reliable and the entire setup can be pretty simple. Direct just brings more problems and replaces cheap parts with expensive high pressure parts. Carb are very simple but also a complete pain in the ass, hard to tune, have to be synchronized, require maintenance. They do sound good though. There's always people saying I love carbs because I can fix them on the side of the road, but with electric port injection you wouldn't be on the side of the road to begin with.
@adelaideautowashes
@adelaideautowashes 3 жыл бұрын
If you know what you're doing, a carburetor isn't difficult to tune. It's only difficult if you're uneducated and/or unskilled with carburetor tuning. Literally all you need is a screwdriver and some knowledge/experience! Think of tuning a carburetor like tuning a guitar: There's that sweet spot you want to be in, but there's also such thing as too much and too little.
@The_Touring_Jedi
@The_Touring_Jedi 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, I have a Suzuki Kizashi 2013 with port injection, old technology in compare to other brands same year. Those engines and components even if old school are pretty reliable and can hit over 300k miles with normal servicing.
@friendofvinnie
@friendofvinnie 2 жыл бұрын
Haha nice one!
@ChuckTheHamster
@ChuckTheHamster 4 жыл бұрын
Another well done video, thank you for that! One remark: You forgot to mention the downturns of direct injection with regard to smoke and NOx emissions which makes exhaust gas aftertreatment way more complicated. Greetings from germany :)
@ronanrogers4127
@ronanrogers4127 4 жыл бұрын
Genau. Das ist richtig.
@whuzzzup
@whuzzzup 4 жыл бұрын
DI also has big problems with the inlet pipes getting carbonated thanks to exhaust gases getting re-fed into the engine. Newer/better models use multiport injection to also inject into the air inlet like in the old days.
@TheGreatBritishFarm
@TheGreatBritishFarm 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love wee bit reek tho
@CrazyPetez
@CrazyPetez 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done, Jason. The only thing I learned was what I had thought was your misidentifying a carburetor as a fuel injector. By golly, your white board diagram of the carburetor demonstrated that in fact, a carburetor does inject fuel. Bravo!
@James-eg3nf
@James-eg3nf 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same. In fact, I just learned that a carburetor is actually just a more advanced mechanical fuel injection system. I've seen some articles call it "carbureted fuel injection".
@kevink2315
@kevink2315 4 жыл бұрын
Best look again. The engine draws fuel in from a carb using a venturi (aka a restriction), while FI's squirt it in.
@johannmartinez8886
@johannmartinez8886 4 жыл бұрын
My car engine still uses a carburator. Nice to see the explanation of how it works.
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 4 жыл бұрын
A really good explanation for how all of these various systems work...perhaps the best I've seen so far! I do get the feeling that dual-injection is really a Rube Goldberg kind of solution for the pitfalls of direct injection though. Really wish more automakers would stick with/return to port injection for long-term engine durability.
@amirbechor3768
@amirbechor3768 4 жыл бұрын
Hey EE, Could you do a comparison between motorcycle engines and car engines? maybe most powerful across the two platforms or comparing 2 inline 4's etc...?
@millomweb
@millomweb 4 жыл бұрын
What for ?
@eblemis
@eblemis 3 жыл бұрын
Carburetors are by far the most fascinating work of engineering out of all fuel delivery systems. It never ceases to amaze me how much versatility and precision has been achieved just by some intricate use of holes and cavities in a metal block and utilization of pressure difference and Bernoulli’s principle. They don’t do calculations to time and quantify anything, they don’t force feed fuel, they just maintain a constant state of balance which allows them to deliver exactly what the engine demands. Which in turn makes carburetors the snappiest of all. Nothing responds to throttle inputs as crisply as a well-tuned carb.
@jeffer168
@jeffer168 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of Jason's best videos yet. Impressed with how good a job he does explaining things. Bravo.
@postlerzogger
@postlerzogger 4 жыл бұрын
With 2 Years of Experience in crafting port and direct injection valves for Diesel and gasoline engine I habe fo say thats pretty Good explained
@chrisgraham9203
@chrisgraham9203 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Rochester Quadrajet. One of the best carburetors ever manufactured.
@painkillerjones6232
@painkillerjones6232 4 жыл бұрын
The QUADROBOG!!!! it went well with the "Slip and Slide Powerglide"!!!
@marcomacias8941
@marcomacias8941 4 жыл бұрын
@@painkillerjones6232 Ah, if only you had the knowledge to tune it. Then you'd be able to see its hidden potential.
@thebaconsonful
@thebaconsonful 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcomacias8941 It was a favorite of mine back in the day, rebuilt more of them than I could count. Spot on though, they copped a bad rep here because not many people could tune them properly, but set up properly they were a great all rounder.
@Texassince1836
@Texassince1836 4 жыл бұрын
I have 2 trucks (76, 86) registered that I drives daily, BOTH are Quadrajet equipped. They're great, reliable, and use less fuel that Edelbrock or Holley Equipped motors.
@marcob4630
@marcob4630 3 жыл бұрын
A perfect and clear explanations about how fuel gets into the cylinders: my compliments
@funtohave5604
@funtohave5604 3 жыл бұрын
This is the only time i fully understand the cleaning effect by the fuel injector to the valve Thanks
@rickrack78
@rickrack78 4 жыл бұрын
It would have been great to hear about Hondas CVCC carburetor and engine
@timothykeith1367
@timothykeith1367 4 жыл бұрын
stratified charge is still used by Mazda
@kalemathews1899
@kalemathews1899 4 жыл бұрын
I know what the Honda cvcc’ are but what’s special ab the motor and carb other than being a motorcycle engine
@steventrott8714
@steventrott8714 4 жыл бұрын
It should really be called an air pedal. It lets air in first, and more fuel flows as a result of more air.
@aygwm
@aygwm 4 жыл бұрын
So in a gasoline-powered engine, yes. In a diesel, it’s legitimately a fuel pedal.
@royalriding1720
@royalriding1720 4 жыл бұрын
The proper term is an accelerator pedal
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 4 жыл бұрын
@@royalriding1720 You mean throttle.
@LSX_Tony
@LSX_Tony 4 жыл бұрын
Shain Andrews only if it’s actuating a throttle body
@crazytrain7114
@crazytrain7114 4 жыл бұрын
The governmental morons started calling it a gas peddle during the fuel crisis in the 70s. It was previously called the throttle, in that it literally throttles the air.
@davidrayner9832
@davidrayner9832 4 жыл бұрын
I was once a painter and if you know how a spray gun works, you'll know that carb is a combination of a spray gun and a toilet. In a spray gun, air rushing by a nozzle draws the paint out and atomizes it. In a toilet, the water level in the tank is controlled by a valve connected to a float. When the level drops (you flush to toilet) the float drops and opens the valve whick lets more water in until the level (and thus the float) rises enough to close the valve. Spray gun + toilet = carburetor.
@totti79
@totti79 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the days there was BOSCH L-Jetronic fuel injection system, this was a mechanical fuel injection with multiple port injectors that continuously sprays fuel and an injector distributor (head) that controls fuel to the injectors using a lever and plate that is moved by the engine intake suction .
@nikolafilipovic5506
@nikolafilipovic5506 4 жыл бұрын
Getting some Bill Nye vibes. Keep it up!
@PopcornSticker
@PopcornSticker 4 жыл бұрын
„and thus make more power” is such a beautiful sentence
@mario18sebast
@mario18sebast Жыл бұрын
The only thing I regret about finding this channel is not founding it earlier, keep up the good work!
@rickc303
@rickc303 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for properly explaining carburetors and not just blanket crapping on them, from a fuel injection guy
@ChrisPBacon-wq4pu
@ChrisPBacon-wq4pu 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, it's past 2 am here in NYC, glanced at the title and thought it said " What's the best fuel injection for Coronavirus"? I need some sleep :/
@user-ls9ff4cu9x
@user-ls9ff4cu9x 4 жыл бұрын
That moment when you realize 2011 was 9 years ago
@mennovanlavieren3885
@mennovanlavieren3885 4 жыл бұрын
1/1/2020 early in the afternoon?
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager 4 жыл бұрын
SCP 89 Math not your thing?
@deanjohnson7283
@deanjohnson7283 4 жыл бұрын
It wasnt 9 years ago... It was 3-3 and a half years ago :D Thats how I feel it... One day you graduate from school... 3 months later - a year passed by
@alexskywalker888
@alexskywalker888 4 жыл бұрын
That moment you realize 2011 model year was 10 years ago... Marketing doesn't know how numbers work.
@frankmills1917
@frankmills1917 4 жыл бұрын
You had me thinking that this video is from 2011. Nice.
@Aspicientis
@Aspicientis 3 жыл бұрын
Those were 11min and 40s of direct information injection into our brains! Great job! Thanks a lot!
@mr.h5436
@mr.h5436 4 жыл бұрын
wow! In an abstract way, this seems so insanely complicated to solve getting goods delivered and commuting to work. Excellent video, as always.
@boriss.861
@boriss.861 4 жыл бұрын
Now you have got to explain the Air Mass Sensor and the O2 Sensor and how those are controlled by the Pixie Machine Confuser to give an efficient burn.
@archygrey9093
@archygrey9093 4 жыл бұрын
The mass air sensor and the o2 sensor tell the computer what to do not the other way around
@lordjaashin
@lordjaashin 4 жыл бұрын
theres a great video on this topic by diagnose dan on KZbin. check it out. the engineering of it is pretty neat
@MaximEck96
@MaximEck96 4 жыл бұрын
"Carburators haven't been used in any production vehicles in decades" Aviation world and Lycoming : "mmmmmh looks like we missed a train here"
@sweetcheels
@sweetcheels 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know of any new Aviation company that still uses a carburetor. 🤔
@robbeplunkett699
@robbeplunkett699 4 жыл бұрын
Maxime Eckstein You can still buy carbureted aviation engines, but virtually all of the new Lycoming/Continental engines sold in new aircraft use a rudimentary port injection system. The FAA is slow to adapt new technology.
@sweetcheels
@sweetcheels 4 жыл бұрын
Robbe Plunkett man isn’t that the truth.
@DavidGonzalez-lu3eb
@DavidGonzalez-lu3eb 4 жыл бұрын
@@robbeplunkett699 so true. I worked for a small lite aircraft manufacturer and we used Lycoming and Continental engines. The injection system reminded me of the 90's poppet valve system used on GM V8 and V6 truck engines, which was eventually replaced with injectors, as EE showed the injector "spider" in the video. The Rotax engine we offered did use a modern (for the aviation world) electronic fuel injection with injectors at every port, a MAP sensor and associated electrics. For what Lycoming and Continental charge for an engine (last I checked it was $30K) you'd think they'd offer modern fuel injection. And yes, the FAA is WAY behind the curve.
@robbeplunkett699
@robbeplunkett699 4 жыл бұрын
David Gonzalez Exactly! I currently fly newer Cessna 172s and Piper Arrows and the fact that these modern aircraft (albeit old designs) still have a mixture control for the pilot to vary the AFR is ridiculous IMO. If you don’t mind me asking, what company did you work for?
@falconejo
@falconejo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You, that is what I meant in you other video about the 1000hp street legal car. How port is better for cleaning and direct for power. I think all car companies should incorporate both. Great video.
@ccpgmike620
@ccpgmike620 4 жыл бұрын
As an ol'skool retired engineer still tuning carbs (1958 Porsche) I have to say v.g. explanation of carb physics. Well Done!! Regarding complexity, whilst use use the term "electronic" you did not address the complexity associated with that seemingly simple term. That includes everything from crankshaft positioning sensors to the mini-computer. That might make a nice sister video. You might start with Chrysler's attempt in late 1950's to build an analog electronic FI pre-solid-state electronics. The wax insulating media within old fashioned physical capacitors would melt!!! Keep u the good work
@lag_profil
@lag_profil 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer direct injection, compression ignition and turbocharging.
@flashgordon99999
@flashgordon99999 4 жыл бұрын
Diesel for the win!
@martinandersson5278
@martinandersson5278 4 жыл бұрын
flashgordon99999 or a HCCI, Mazda engine
@timjohnson1199
@timjohnson1199 4 жыл бұрын
Do you prefer to do all the work on that?
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 4 жыл бұрын
Evil, dirty stuff. I had a Ford 6.0 EGR valve stick open 12 miles from pavement.
@electric7487
@electric7487 4 жыл бұрын
*Diesel Gang Rise Up*
@Bozacar
@Bozacar 4 жыл бұрын
It's not explosion. As far I know explosion means moving faster than speed of sound. But during combustion it doesn't happen, and when it does happen it causes problems.
@jgerdinggmail
@jgerdinggmail 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saying it... Despite the speed at which it occurs, it's still definitely controlled combustion, or at least meant to be. Explosions or uncontrolled simultaneous combustion just wrecks things.
@amdviperxd98b
@amdviperxd98b 4 жыл бұрын
EE- for dummies instruction not from a dummy. Best breakdown of basic fuel integration I have ever seen.
@Wolfiecolada
@Wolfiecolada 4 жыл бұрын
"and there you have it" it's in my head now. my girlfriend in passing said "is that Ross from friends?" and now i can't unhear it.
@PumpkinDefender
@PumpkinDefender 4 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video explaining how mechanical fuel injection works? I’ve always been curious about the transitioning period between carburetors and EFI.
@petarmiletic997
@petarmiletic997 3 жыл бұрын
There are two systems of mechanical injection that i know of. For instance early injection engines used a injection pump that operates on the same principle as diesel inline type injection pumps. A camshaft drives individual pumping plungers for each cylinder. The effective stroke and thus the fuel quantity is controlled by variable spill port opening and closing. This type of pump can be used for both port injection and direct injection. In the 70's Bosch came up with the K jetronic aka Continous injection system. It uses a vane type air flow meter to control a valve which varied fuel flow to injectors. More air flow - more fuel injected. Later the system evolved to KE jetronic with some electronic controlls but still mainly mechanical. There might be more but I don't know of any
@dewiz9596
@dewiz9596 4 жыл бұрын
One more thing. . . By cooling the mixture and minimizing knock, the difference between cold and hot is greater, increasing the thermodynamic efficiency of the engine. . .
@timjohnson1199
@timjohnson1199 4 жыл бұрын
When it's running perfectly.
@apyllyon
@apyllyon 4 жыл бұрын
to all those talking about lada:Lada Niva,Samara has been Produced still today and has both the fuel injected gasoline engine used since the 1990s as gasoline, and a diesel variant both with bosch k-jetronic fuel im and more modern fuel injection solutions.and more modern models introduced technical features from renault-mitsubishi-nissan. Niva had Power windows as option since the 1990s.although now days somewhat underpowered the older generations of the niva series were designed to be ``low maintenance`` along with 1st and 2nd gen samaras(1988-2000),samara series was much rarer as a diesel variant but existed much to my understanding,with peogeot diesel engine,along with the later years of nivas production.the 2000-2003 samaras where rife with ecu and other related problems(been there done that)
@markguzewski5430
@markguzewski5430 4 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why a choke does what it does on a carburetor, as compared to the throttle. Finally, I get it. Thanks.
@nirfz
@nirfz 4 жыл бұрын
There is something i would want to mention and something i want to ask: The 300 SL of 1955 had a mechanical direct injenction. And i would think it had no problem with carbon deposits, as i think (could be wrong) the return of exhaust gasses into the intake was done much later for emission reasons. The question: Diesels before common rail had a little pocket inside the cylinder which contained the glow plug and the injectornozzle. Does this still count as direct injection? It is inside the cylinder, but notin the designated "burning space"...
@dylanmontgomerie6069
@dylanmontgomerie6069 4 жыл бұрын
Technically they arent direct injection even though the injector is constantly connected to the combustion chamber through a tiny hole.
@nirfz
@nirfz 4 жыл бұрын
@@dylanmontgomerie6069 Why not? everything i read about the cars engine said it is direct injection. It injects directly into the chamber onto the exhaust valve and the pistonhead. (for extra cooling of these parts)
@dylanmontgomerie6069
@dylanmontgomerie6069 4 жыл бұрын
@@nirfz Sorry i meant the diesels you were talking about, the 300 sl is direct injection.
@wherewhenandwhy2481
@wherewhenandwhy2481 4 жыл бұрын
Wow you are amazing ,I changed the way I see the things, with this inspiration I have started my own KZbin channel "Where When and why ❤️", it is about real time applications of my strem. Thank you for everything because you have changed my life 🤗.
@rifat_yilmaz
@rifat_yilmaz 4 жыл бұрын
The engines which have both port and direct injections are sold worldwide. For example Mitsubishi uses it in Eclipse Cross. I drove it for about one year and the engine was amazing.
@andresguraieb1947
@andresguraieb1947 3 жыл бұрын
Man you're the best teacher in the universe. Thank you for all your videos.
@pierredentremont2999
@pierredentremont2999 Жыл бұрын
A great video as usual! A carburetor will have the most cooling effect as the time that the fuel moves from the carb to the cylinder is longer due to the length of the intake port/runner. This tends to allow for slightly higher power numbers than FI on the same engine. Fuel injection gives the most control over the entire rpm/load range, but without working control systems they will not run properly or at all. Carbs are archaic but will still supply fuel after all the high tech control systems breakdown. Don’t get me wrong I like FI but I get more satisfaction working on my +80 years old car.
@superseriousreviews1168
@superseriousreviews1168 4 жыл бұрын
Port injection ftw, the best of both worlds.
@akoponen
@akoponen 4 жыл бұрын
If you want both performance and economy it may be hard to beat patent pending Augmented Compression Engine (ACE) technology. This uses either a super simple carburetor (no need to vary fuel/air ratio) or fuel injection to inject the stoichiometric ratio of fuel to air, the inlet is long enough to vaporize the fuel and the throttle valve just before the combustion chamber adds enough recycled exhaust (EGR) to reduce down to the power selected. Just before the throttle the ACE also uses water injection to put in the appropriate quantity of water. This water does the triple duty of cooling the mix, making it denser allows more into the combustion chamber, cooling the combustion just enough to prevent power being wasted in combining oxygen with nitrogen producing NOx and in doing so turns to steam, expanding and providing even more power. Otherwise no changes need to be made to the average internal combustion engine, though one should no longer need a catalytic converter and ceramic coating the combustion chamber(s) and recycling water vapor from the exhaust is suggested.
@dharma4320
@dharma4320 4 жыл бұрын
Why lectures aren't like these ?... I learnt a lot thank you
@ArthurSperotto
@ArthurSperotto 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely disagree that you don't have much control over a carb. You can have a silly amount of control over air fuel ratio, you just have to know how to use it. The AEM UEGO I have in my 1971 Dodge Dart proves my point every time I drive it.
@mingusog7036
@mingusog7036 3 жыл бұрын
"Carburators haven't been used in any production vehicles in decades" *Laughs in motorcylces*
@adifferentangle7064
@adifferentangle7064 4 жыл бұрын
There is something very satisfying about adjusting your air/fuel mixture with a screwdriver.
@nasiefhendricks5349
@nasiefhendricks5349 4 жыл бұрын
You sir, are a good example of things we need to see more of on the internet
@archygrey9093
@archygrey9093 4 жыл бұрын
You also have the mechanical fuel injection systems too like Bosch Ke or k-jet from the 80s, very complicated to work on but are actually suprisingly reliable and good at holding a tune. They still seem to exist as fuel systems for race engines though
@curtislovrak5390
@curtislovrak5390 4 жыл бұрын
Archy Grey all hail the mighty K Jetronic
@MarvelousSeven
@MarvelousSeven 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, love how he totally glossed over throttle body injection.
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 4 жыл бұрын
Ever worked on it? I want to forget it (and the older Tauruses that used it) ever existed.
@MarvelousSeven
@MarvelousSeven 4 жыл бұрын
@@flagmichael yeah, crossfire fuel injection once upon a time.
@kittlebeans596
@kittlebeans596 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic videos. You talk quickly but I never lose track of what's being said or have to skip back from not understanding something. A lot of detailed information and explained in a great way 👍🏼
@justinbelk89
@justinbelk89 Жыл бұрын
After a many watched videos on carbon GDI & port injection, I’m so happy to discover my 2023 Kia Sportage has duel injection systems. Great video.
@bravosierra2010
@bravosierra2010 4 жыл бұрын
How neat! I’d love to hear your thoughts on desmotronic valves on Ducati’s.
@R4M_Tommy
@R4M_Tommy 4 жыл бұрын
DesmoDROMIC not tronic. It's not electric or motorized. BTW, it was invented by Mercedes.
@chrishernandez2490
@chrishernandez2490 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason, better title suggestion "What's the best fuel DELIVERY" Since carburetors don't really count as 'injection'
@dylanmontgomerie6069
@dylanmontgomerie6069 4 жыл бұрын
Injection is high pressure on one side and low pressure on the other. carburetors are injecting the fuel.
@nathankopfmann8659
@nathankopfmann8659 4 жыл бұрын
Have you checked out metering rod carbs? Like the ones from lectron or smart carb. They use really ingenious stuff. They have a specially designed rod that sticks out into the intake, and it creates an eddy current that draws fuel up the rod in different volumes and heights depending on how much air it draws past
@Wonka0998
@Wonka0998 4 жыл бұрын
That's a wonderful video. I can't believe how far we've come with fuel injection systems. I'm always glad nowadays engines are so freaking efficient compared to old cars. I knew there was technology behind it but I didn't know how cool that tech was until now.
@PhaedruS007
@PhaedruS007 4 жыл бұрын
D’AWWWW he thinks carbs automatically account for engine modifications and exhaust flow rate! BOY do I wish that was true. Then my garage wouldn’t be full of motorcycles and cars forever out of tune. I have 13 carbs in my life and sometimes I want to stuff them all into a shredder.
@danieljensen2626
@danieljensen2626 4 жыл бұрын
Just because they react to differences in airflow doesn't mean they react the way you want them too.
@stevenlefebvre2991
@stevenlefebvre2991 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Hinman It’s not so bad once you learn how to tune them correctly and keep them clean. One trick I would like to share with you is once you get your carburetors tuned correctly run Marvel mystery oil in your fuel it will help keep your carburetors clean and performing at their best. 1 ounce per gallon of fuel works best. Plus it is an excellent top end lubrication. And it does wonders for the intake valve guide.
@tomthumb1322
@tomthumb1322 4 жыл бұрын
I still love my old quadrajet, feel free to send me the new one you have there if you're not gonna use it for anything. :)
@kevink2315
@kevink2315 4 жыл бұрын
Rebuilt a few, beware the "sinking float" on some. Solid float absorbs gas, & gets heavy.
@GTRxMan
@GTRxMan 4 жыл бұрын
Looking at the 4 bbl carb reminded me of my old Buick with a 455 and a Rochester Quadrajet. It had tiny primaries and massive secondaries. I can still remember the glorious sound when you floored it and the secondaries opened up.
@Texassince1836
@Texassince1836 4 жыл бұрын
The 4bbl in this video is infact a Quadrajet
@hooman2824
@hooman2824 3 жыл бұрын
Very Loud and Clear😎👍 this will help a lot of people without any small idea about what kind of part it is and how it really works in our engine 🤓 excellent!
@memogana
@memogana 3 жыл бұрын
Now I love internal combustion engines tnks to you. What a great channel!
@martinschulz9381
@martinschulz9381 2 жыл бұрын
Like always, well explained, and no time wasted.
@benevolentbear8213
@benevolentbear8213 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing videos man. I am an EE graduate but learning about automotive engine from your videos is so satisfying.
@hakansternersson1804
@hakansternersson1804 4 жыл бұрын
Wait to 8:52 for the white board. As usual, great information for everyone motorinterested. Thumbs up!
@mattheviewer
@mattheviewer 2 жыл бұрын
Helpful explaination! FYI most home generators including the large whole house models still rely on carburetors.
@Matt_from_Florida
@Matt_from_Florida 2 жыл бұрын
In the 1970's my dad had a Chevrolet Cosworth Vega. Of the half-dozen Chevy dealerships in town only 1 of them had a mechanic who understood how to service the Cosworth's unique fuel-injection.
@Mark-dn7jv
@Mark-dn7jv 4 жыл бұрын
My aviation background and training makes me believe the only thing you got wrong is the fuel in a carburetor is actually drawn in from the vacuum caused by the venturi. Your videos are really good, keep up the good work.
@cameronpack6908
@cameronpack6908 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you break down the new fancy electronic carburetor management like Holly has.
@carlitosbrigante6889
@carlitosbrigante6889 3 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained great comparation , clear and detailed video ,but at 10:26 right behind you that s a NEC violation .
@ardent.soul.
@ardent.soul. 3 жыл бұрын
This guy explains it very well.
@Guy-ky9mc
@Guy-ky9mc Жыл бұрын
I've built many engines on cars, motorcycles, jet skis, name it.. and several totally custom turbocharger systems with obd0 (yes) . I have much appreciation for the ability to fine tune air/fuel ratios with the ecu/EPROM chip but there's still something I just love about old motors and carburetors.. especially the two strokes. We need to get back to two strokes but perhaps without the premix.. i.e. an independent oil system to keep things clean
@Jonathan_Doe_
@Jonathan_Doe_ 3 жыл бұрын
That four barrel carb isn’t trying to give a different air/fuel ratio at part throttle, that would just cause rough running. What it’s doing is restricting the part throttle power by limiting both the air, and the fuel on part throttle, by limiting the airflow. Also there is plenty of control of air fuel ratios with carbs via jet sizes. Not as exact as fuel injection, but surprisingly accurate with later bike carbs.
@bicycle697
@bicycle697 4 жыл бұрын
Imparting knowledge is what you do best. Thanks!!!
@lewisbeshers1946
@lewisbeshers1946 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that clear and concise explanation.
@midwestlegacy1919
@midwestlegacy1919 Жыл бұрын
This was very helpful for understanding the carbureted engine on the Cessna 172 that I fly. The whole Venturi thing was confusing me until I saw your video 👍🏾
@bajakitesurfer9542
@bajakitesurfer9542 4 жыл бұрын
I Love All your Vides - You have quite a gift at communicating and exude a tremendous passion for your interests. In this video I’d like to offer some small critique; I wish you had mentioned. Accelerator Pumps when discussing the Carbs, this , as you know is additional way carburetors create more power from an engine, and they are integral to most Carbs. Second, I wish you would have described the physical action inside a cylinder as a fuel ‘Burn’ , not an Explosion. Which leads me to my last point - Explosions in cylinders are bad , we call that Detonation or Pre-ignition . ‘Knock’ is just the slang term we use to describe an audible symptom of Detonation/Pre-ignition , the cars engine makes pro iced ‘knocking ‘ sounds that we hear in the cockpit.
@bajakitesurfer9542
@bajakitesurfer9542 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the misspellings on my last post ( autocorrect!) the last sentence should read; The cars engine makes pronounces ‘knocking’ sounds that we hear in the cockpit . These are just small observations, please take them in a positive light. I am a Huge Fan of all your videos and appreciate your enthusiasm, ability to explain complicated subjects in lay terms and your clear expertise in your subject matter and engineering and physics overall. Please keep up the good work and keep them coming !
@jeanvaljean1475
@jeanvaljean1475 10 күн бұрын
I have a 1.4 ,75 hp port injected 17 yo Renault which works perfectly fine for me. One of the best small engines ever made in Europe. I would love to bring a v8 from the USA but where I live the vehicle tax for engines over 3000 cc are around $2000-$3000 a year and I am not rich.
@saygnileri1571
@saygnileri1571 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your good explanation! Let me clarify the difference between the port and direct injectors. Port one puts liquid gas into the place just before coming to the combustion room. And direct one puts gasoline directly into combustion room by high pressure. Port pros: cleaning carbons etc., Cons: takes more time to mix with air so less effecient. Direct Pros: Better mixture with air so more effecient. Temperature reduction by faster evaporation. Cons: no cleaning from carbons
@desmofc
@desmofc 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, Amazing explanation once again. Both informative and entertaining.
@divyansh.812
@divyansh.812 2 жыл бұрын
The best and the clearest explanation
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