Carburetors Are Back?

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@Bryanscott88
@Bryanscott88 2 жыл бұрын
As an engineer and mechanic, I love teaching my son who is now 5 what I enjoy! So thank you Jeremiah, and the rest of donut for making it fun for him! We enjoy it together!!
@westreaper9681
@westreaper9681 2 жыл бұрын
That's what it's all about. Sharing what you love with who you love. You're real solid
@myass5964
@myass5964 2 жыл бұрын
Your a mechanic and a engineer? Never met someone who was both
@edd2184
@edd2184 2 жыл бұрын
It's a bond that will last a lifetime ☺️
@williambrewer855
@williambrewer855 2 жыл бұрын
What type of engineering? Id like to get involved in the automotive side
@Bryanscott88
@Bryanscott88 2 жыл бұрын
@@westreaper9681my son and my passion. I love them both! Thank you for the kind words Sir!
@5lolotrix5
@5lolotrix5 2 жыл бұрын
for the people wondering it literally just says: "something in german" on their new banner and as a german I absolutely love it
@TheRealSykx
@TheRealSykx 2 жыл бұрын
uh huh that's just what you want us to believe
@lazyhoundracing9621
@lazyhoundracing9621 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@24NL
@24NL 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealSykx no it realy says: something in German!
@TheRealSykx
@TheRealSykx 2 жыл бұрын
@@24NL I know how sneaky you Germans are, can't get anything past me
@NikoKyunKyun
@NikoKyunKyun 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealSykx i'm american and knows germans, it says the gremans are onto something!
@tylermorrison4728
@tylermorrison4728 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see Jeremiah host a motorcycle show
@goaliepro1996
@goaliepro1996 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t even own a bike and I would watch it!
@tcc187620
@tcc187620 2 жыл бұрын
@@goaliepro1996 same
@ELDaneo69
@ELDaneo69 2 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah suuuucks. He's the worst one at donut.
@tunerimpala5658
@tunerimpala5658 2 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah is what you get when a fan watches too much and try’s to hard to be funny then gets a job at donut
@goaliepro1996
@goaliepro1996 2 жыл бұрын
@@tunerimpala5658 I’ll be completely honest. I felt the exact same way when he first joined the team. I almost found it annoying. But he has definitely grown on me and I love watching him now👍🏻 keep it up Jeremiah
@lethalsparrow
@lethalsparrow Жыл бұрын
One thing I personally love about carbs is their simplicity of tuning especially for small engines. There's something to be said for the fact that a carbureted engine can be run with nothing but a magneto powering the spark plug and no other electrical system.
@milk_420
@milk_420 Жыл бұрын
a lot of them still use digital ignitions, would love to see more kickstart points powered bikes ngl tho
@catsup1308
@catsup1308 Жыл бұрын
I love carbohydrates
@k3kboi665
@k3kboi665 Жыл бұрын
Thats also their main problem. A carb never run correctly especialy if you live in a place where the conditions change a lot. You dont want to spend 15 minutes every morning under your hood to save a bit of fuel so you let them run rich😂
@Rotini-i5g
@Rotini-i5g Жыл бұрын
The carbs on the Chinese mopeds are pretty terrible I like how Honda has a EFI moped now
@mikem9536
@mikem9536 Жыл бұрын
@@Rotini-i5gHonda is the small engine king.
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 2 жыл бұрын
As an automation engineer and programmer, I can say that the carb is still a stout unit being a harmonious blend of physics and fluid dynamics. The carb is still king in my book all day long. Uncle luke here may or may not of designed and programmed a universal adaptive control that trims carb afr in real time - more on that later. Thunderhead289
@D.M.Designs
@D.M.Designs 2 жыл бұрын
The accuracy of the purely mechanical metering device is a thing of beauty.
@codyaaron2129
@codyaaron2129 2 жыл бұрын
I have a LM7 I am planning to blow and carb. Adaptive carb control is something I have actually wanted to see if was available.
@georgejungle138
@georgejungle138 2 жыл бұрын
Did you just put a signature on your own comment?
@jongottschalk6648
@jongottschalk6648 2 жыл бұрын
You did amazing work on that 302 maverick. I live in Fort dodge. I was was wondering if you would do an instructable or something on your iac controller. Keep up the amazing work.
@benygh911
@benygh911 2 жыл бұрын
The German Engineers Certainly DEMONSTRATED in REAL DIRE situations, that the Carb just could NOT Hold up in the British Spitfires with the HUGE/Efficient/POWERFUL MERLIN Engines that just DIED OFF Completely in many "High G's/Speed-Roll" Maneuvers and were TOTALLY OUTMANEUVERED and OUT RUNNED in the Air by the Messerschmitt Bf 109 with the the 1,455HP Daimler-Benz DB 605 Fuel Injected even MORE HUGE/Efficient/POWERFUL engine 😅🙃 and had no Speed/G/Maneuverability Limitations MOST of the Racing Tech Advances of Today were Effectively and FACTUALLY Made in WARTIME in WW1 and WW2 for piston Engines, just Research it and you WILL SEE that Most new things are CPUs-electronics 😁✌ Besides, TOYOTA already Solved the Problem with it's Dynamic EFI System, injecting DIRECTLY and in the Manifold when needed and Modifided the SHAPE-Size of the Piston and Combustion chamber/Timming, _Effectively Solving_ the Mix/Vaporization issue GreeTs guys and G0D✝Bless you ALL
@martyatspotgoes
@martyatspotgoes 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not that old and we used to call filling the tank with “Ethel”. Ethanol has a long history in America. Over 100 years ago, Henry Ford designed the first Model T to run on ethanol or gasoline - the original flex-fuel vehicle. He did this because gasoline was not commonly available everywhere in 1908, and farmers could produce ethanol very cheaply and use it to fuel their vehicles - essentially, you could run your Model T on moonshine. Ethanol also made a comeback as fuel during WWII when gasoline was strictly rationed.
@2OO_OK
@2OO_OK 2 жыл бұрын
Ethyl in this context refers to Ethyl Fluid or tetraethyl lead.
@pigtrapper1329
@pigtrapper1329 2 жыл бұрын
Also makes sense why alcohol was prohibited. "They" didn't want everybody making their own fuel at home. 'They" wanted us to be slaves to big oil
@dixen9116
@dixen9116 2 жыл бұрын
The Ethel you remember is the poisonous leaded gasoline of the past, the one that increased everyones blood lead content and increased world aggression
@richardprice5978
@richardprice5978 2 жыл бұрын
@@2OO_OK also E50-up aka E100
@DriftKing86
@DriftKing86 2 жыл бұрын
Petrol is "Benzine auf Deutsch"
@karmA2q
@karmA2q 2 жыл бұрын
"Don't ask me how I know 1986 was 35 years ago." I feel that on a spiritual level. Great video as always!
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 2 жыл бұрын
86 was a hell of a year. Actually the rest of the 80s were pretty kickass.
@pigtrapper1329
@pigtrapper1329 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an 86 model also. Seems like it was a good year
@davidgalea6113
@davidgalea6113 2 жыл бұрын
the 80s...the decade of blow and glitter...
@Sinerwray
@Sinerwray 2 жыл бұрын
It's 36 years not 35
@electroborg
@electroborg 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah when I was 35 I felt old too. When you get to 50 you stop worrying.
@0o0ification
@0o0ification 2 жыл бұрын
"Etwas auf Deutsch" 😂 Thanks to B2B team for putting together a great carburetor episode.
@geoffrey6000
@geoffrey6000 2 жыл бұрын
Why did they put that on there 😂 "Something in German"
@inderet4118
@inderet4118 2 жыл бұрын
@@geoffrey6000 Its kinda like those people who put a bunch of japanese on their doors which jusr translates to a grocery list
@ThisMarv
@ThisMarv 2 жыл бұрын
@@inderet4118 or also RAUH WELT BEGRIFF
@leumel900
@leumel900 2 жыл бұрын
@@inderet4118 Well, as a german i really didn't get the joke at first, so thanks for explaining😂
@MrLawendel
@MrLawendel 2 жыл бұрын
@@inderet4118 I guess, it might be also because of the logo / font that the "HRSPRS" catch phrase is based on - H&R Springs. Which, if I remember correctly, is a German company. But that also made me wonder as a fellow German :D
@kulturamoto3302
@kulturamoto3302 2 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah should be Donut's face for motorcycle contents. I'm a motorcycle enthusiast and it fills me with joy whenever motorcycles are mentioned in Donut.
@danielescobar7618
@danielescobar7618 Жыл бұрын
Fortnine makes great videos, if you wanna see some similar themed moto vids.
@alexjenner1108
@alexjenner1108 2 жыл бұрын
4:53 That is what the accelerator pump on the carburettor is for. If you have to wait for more fuel with your carburettor, then maybe the accelerator pump needs adjustment or repair. Sometimes the accelerator pump diaphragm needs replacing.
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS 2 жыл бұрын
Not all have those
@alexjenner1108
@alexjenner1108 2 жыл бұрын
@@GunFunZS True, there are constant velocity carburettors which achieve the correct mixture using a different method.
@aaronjones9866
@aaronjones9866 11 ай бұрын
There is still a huge delay compared to efi! I think your comparing street use to applications Jeremiah was leaning against. Take a drag app for ex, your doing the 60 in 0.6, thats with reaction time. That would be impossible from a carb system.
@alexjenner1108
@alexjenner1108 11 ай бұрын
@@aaronjones9866 I'm not a drag racer, so if you get better results with efi, I believe you, but there is no "huge" delay with a properly setup carburettor system. The video claimed "the carburettor... needed to wait for the pressure differential to build, before more fuel was added". That is what the accelerator pump does, it provides more fuel without waiting. Carbs were responsive enough for WRC drivers up until the early 1980s, with Walter Röhrl beating the Audi Quattros in the drivers championship with his Opel with 2WD and Weber carburettors in 1982. So no. I wasn't talking about street use. The main reason WRC cars went to fuel injection, is that everyone was also switching to turbochargers, except Lancia who used a supercharger in the 037.
@YukonDemon
@YukonDemon 11 ай бұрын
I've probably personally replaced close to a hundred accelerator pump diaphragms over the years.
@cyrilthomas9730
@cyrilthomas9730 2 жыл бұрын
Two stroke + carburetor = pure happiness Great upload, Donut
@Mr9Guns
@Mr9Guns 2 жыл бұрын
Simplicity at it's finest
@iterminator309
@iterminator309 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@johnalogue9832
@johnalogue9832 2 жыл бұрын
There are easier ways to inhale oil fumes
@eriktruchinskas3747
@eriktruchinskas3747 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnalogue9832 yeah like running an engine with failing piston rings, like a real man ;)
@johnalogue9832
@johnalogue9832 2 жыл бұрын
@@eriktruchinskas3747 "Piston rings? I thought those were like the plastic rings around beer cans, you're supposed to take them off after you buy the piston then stick them on a nearby seagull..."
@youthful9477
@youthful9477 2 жыл бұрын
I watch these videos like “yeah, this will help me during my interview at Jiffy Lube”
@ym.820
@ym.820 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@moto_rad
@moto_rad 2 жыл бұрын
Just be an idiot and youll get in
@honatom2894
@honatom2894 2 жыл бұрын
Hope I get the job my fren
@cosmicfiber4
@cosmicfiber4 2 жыл бұрын
Dawg I’m gonna tell you right now jiffy lube ain’t a great company to work for I would find a Bridgestone or a dealership personally
@loganwork7024
@loganwork7024 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck dawg. Doesn't take much to work their though. My cousin went from jiffy lube to Autozone for a raise in pay
@KamiKatzeCos
@KamiKatzeCos 2 жыл бұрын
12:30 As a german, i like this banner. A lot. The text is so deep. Thank you.
@louis24
@louis24 2 жыл бұрын
As a German, I agree
@8tonystark8
@8tonystark8 2 жыл бұрын
As agree, I'm german
@Vanadium
@Vanadium 2 жыл бұрын
LEL
@elvis1745
@elvis1745 2 жыл бұрын
As a non-German German speaker, finde ich es uebergeil!
@1Life4Passion
@1Life4Passion Жыл бұрын
Das ist ja Mal toll! Deutsche gucken mechanic Donut
@PalmRiverGarage
@PalmRiverGarage Жыл бұрын
Worth a mention would be the short lived Hitachi electronic metered feedback carburetor mostly used by Isuzu, Nissan, & Suzuki. It used a MAP, O2, and Coolant Temp sensor to regulate mixture, and also control choke operation. Some even had an in-line resistance heater coil to warm the mixture at sub freezing temps.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Жыл бұрын
Did it work with a catalytic converter?
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 11 ай бұрын
Yes, an interesting side note as fuel injection is still best, for cars. Carburetors are best for things like my chainsaw, because it's really annoying when it breaks while I am chopping up annoying solicitors....
@PalmRiverGarage
@PalmRiverGarage 11 ай бұрын
@@gregorymalchuk272 Yes.
@Chewiestmonkey1
@Chewiestmonkey1 11 ай бұрын
The varnish issue is no joke. I have a 1952 Ford 8n tractor I use for mowing and I always shut the fuel off and let it run so it burns all the fuel in the carb and the fuel lines. If I don't it will get coated in varnish and then run like ass.
@mo.1591
@mo.1591 2 жыл бұрын
the channel smarter every day has a great video about how a carburetor works, and uses a simple, clear plastic carb to demonstrate. highly recommend
@brettbaratheon9776
@brettbaratheon9776 2 жыл бұрын
Great video too.
@mycosys
@mycosys 2 жыл бұрын
never seen anyone adequately explain all the vacuum lies etc on the later ones
@ethanoldenburg6645
@ethanoldenburg6645 2 жыл бұрын
Heard of Warped Perception?
@noahman27
@noahman27 2 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion. Destin made at least two Carb videos recently. Fascinating and fun to learn.
@JiorujiDerako
@JiorujiDerako 2 жыл бұрын
Fortnine also has a great video on specifically why they can sometimes be better for motorcycles still too (mostly due to the fact that ECUs are tougher to tune for motorcycles, and not all motorcycles even have one). Not quite as in-depth as Smarter Every Day can be with the mechanics of it, but even more info for the motorcycle side of things!
@georgieboiii101
@georgieboiii101 2 жыл бұрын
My automotive knowledge has only increased in my 3 years at a Donut lover. Wouldn’t change a single thing about it, thank you all for your hard work! Here’s to 3 more years
@noahman27
@noahman27 2 жыл бұрын
Big Donut fan here too. But, also I stumbled onto the channel Driving 4 Answers. I learned soooo much from that guy. He's a great teacher and I've been learning a ton.
@insanetaco98
@insanetaco98 2 жыл бұрын
As a donut fan but also having been a mechanic and car nerd for a while a few of their vids do contain some misinformation
@brettbaratheon9776
@brettbaratheon9776 2 жыл бұрын
Because they are perfect and awesome. Actually, a carburetor is one of the coolest inventions ever. For how simple it is, it is so complicated and fascinating.
@jonathanwieringa8808
@jonathanwieringa8808 2 жыл бұрын
But wasn't the downside of EFI that with cold starts the fuel would end up on the cylinder wall and wash away the oil causing excess wear? But with carbs, the fuel air mixture reaches all the way to the bottom during the intake stroke potentially ending up with even more fuel on the cylinder walls. What am I missing?
@dmandman9
@dmandman9 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwieringa8808 Actually that was more of a problem with Carburetors too because they needed a choke. The choke caused extra fuel to be drawn in until the engine warmed up and the choke fully opened. On a cold engine the injector sprays more fuel. The carburetor sucks more fuel. Either way, the cylinders get washed. And oil gets diluted. That’s why in both cases more frequent oil changes are needed when an engine is driven mostly short distances in cold weather.
@jonathanwieringa8808
@jonathanwieringa8808 2 жыл бұрын
@@dmandman9 thank you kind sir
@kennethobando5755
@kennethobando5755 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwieringa8808 Nah efi is better for that. Carbs cause more fuel washing. That is why efi cars have longer engine life’s. That was the biggest single engine life improvement in the last 100 years.
@jonathanwieringa8808
@jonathanwieringa8808 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennethobando5755 I was confused with direct fuel injection
@ronprice1819
@ronprice1819 2 жыл бұрын
I drive old carbureted cars all the time and the one big thing I like better about them is the throttle response. Is is immediate! All the newer cars I have driven especially ones that do not have a throttle cable have such a lag in acceleration I find them actually somewhat less manuverable trying to merge in heavy traffic. I'll keep my 40-50 year old cars.
@catsaregovernmentspies
@catsaregovernmentspies Жыл бұрын
The drive-by-wire vehicles definitely do have input lag. There is an aftermarket gadget that is supposed to bypass it to make your throttle response immediate, but I have yet to try one.
@imrenagy8478
@imrenagy8478 Жыл бұрын
Totaly agree. I have a skoda and actualy enough power to accelerate good in traffic but the input lag is soo bad. If my turbos arent spinning fadt enough already i loose like 1-2sec. I bougth a pedal box that made my car like 10x better the pedal response was almost instant but after 2 months driving my egr and dpf died 😂😂 2k on repairs 🤣 now i just accept it 🤷‍♂️
@zzzires5045
@zzzires5045 Жыл бұрын
The input lag is intentional, I always figured it was anti granny stomps the pedal down... Also a good e throttle stops you snapping the throttle open making the engine stumble
@imrenagy8478
@imrenagy8478 Жыл бұрын
@@zzzires5045 yeah..i also removed the little delay in my clutch line so i can have full controll how fast i let it go. All these granny stuff in newers cars makes me sick. I want to be able to use my skills and drive my car dammn 😂😂 my pedal box actualy really helped me but the garage couldnt tell me wheter the problem came because of that or because age 🤷‍♂️ so im scared to put it back in even when i spent 400$ on it 🤦‍♂️😂😂 but i really miss the nice trottle response and all the mods that it gave me (sport, track, city, eco) 😭😂
@1337GameDev
@1337GameDev Жыл бұрын
I find the exact opposite. I'm curious what car you have, as the handful of carb cars ive driven, especially after calibrating/cleaning the carb + intake all still have response lag. EFI.... instant for me, especially if I give a decent throttle request.
@AWEdventures
@AWEdventures 2 жыл бұрын
My 12 old carbureted snowmachine got me and my buddy home safe from deep in the woods when my fancy brand new EFI sled had an ECM failure. Just can't beat their reliability and "simplicity"!
@X7rocks
@X7rocks 2 жыл бұрын
Simplicity, no ecu needed. And two stroke fuel injection is difficult to tune due to different port timing of each cylinder. Nothing wrong with carburetors on small engines. But choose what you like that makes you happy. Also, gotta say. You can make changes to most carburetors with a pilot jet circuit for low-end with the pilot screw adjustment found on most carbs. Loved the episode either way donut. Thanks for the upload.
@moto_rad
@moto_rad 2 жыл бұрын
They still have ECUs for the ignition timing
@X7rocks
@X7rocks 2 жыл бұрын
@@moto_rad which model? Most if not all carburetor engines uses cdi style ignition systems powered by the stator or by the 12v system. The timing is also quite stagnate compared to newer ignition systems that still use a cdi system. You can see one of these ignitions in my channel.
@804_Rider
@804_Rider 2 жыл бұрын
@@moto_rad CDI is a bit different then an ECU
@BearBig70
@BearBig70 2 жыл бұрын
When SHTF, all those electronics are burnt. I'm glad I've done some work on traditional carbs, it may prove to be indispensable.
@X7rocks
@X7rocks 2 жыл бұрын
@@BearBig70 definitely good to learn some old school carbs. Their simplicity is what makes them my go to route for tuning small engines.
@anthonymorris8891
@anthonymorris8891 2 жыл бұрын
To add to the part about carbs not liking ethanol, I would like to point out that small engines like on mowers and snowblowers are carburated. If you are using the 10% ethanol gas, I would suggest a switch to the more expensive one with no ethanol. It will keep that mower going stronger for longer. Same for your 2 strokes, mix with plain gas or buy premix.
@danharold3087
@danharold3087 Жыл бұрын
That does not mean one should use the canned fuel. Chic-a-holic says it (brand with pink tint) is good for engine storage but does not run well. Some engines do not reach peak RPM others do not start. Swap out the fuel and it works.
@anthonymorris8891
@anthonymorris8891 Жыл бұрын
@@danharold3087 the channel is, Chickanic.
@miket.220
@miket.220 Жыл бұрын
I add Stabil to my fuel in small motors. Helps out.
@anthonymorris8891
@anthonymorris8891 Жыл бұрын
@@miket.220 Never had a need for that myself. My gas gets drained from the mower then used in the snowblower lol.
@zbou23
@zbou23 Жыл бұрын
This is because the ethanol binds with moisture from the air and combines in solution to make a yellowish sludge that literally clogs fuel lines and carb pinholes. I HATE ETHANOL AAAHHHH
@TheBigChad
@TheBigChad 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 35 now but when I was a child like 8 I think? My dad taught me how to tune a carburetor, said it was a skill I should know if I wanted to get into racing. One of the few things I’m really happy that we did together
@crungushakooter
@crungushakooter Жыл бұрын
I'm not really a car guy but that carb visual helped me understand why my first car would shut off all the time, thanks! It was an '84 chevy celebrity and i knew "something something choke stuck at full open" and it was constantly blowing too much air so I always needed to give it a little gas to keep the engine running, but actually seeing that makes it make much more sense to me
@olov244
@olov244 Жыл бұрын
I fought with the stock efi on my truck for weeks, tossed on a carb, worked first crank, no adjustments needed. I'll deal with the possible adjustments in the winter, I just need my truck and not a lawn ornament
@liambradley3997
@liambradley3997 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you guys are dipping into the motorcycle scene, conveniently for me it seems to be happening as my interests in bikes are peaking. Would love to see Jeremiah do a motorcycle specific show
@dietrichhoefer
@dietrichhoefer 2 жыл бұрын
Just in case it was a legitimate question, here is my take on vaporization, atomization, and emulsification: all of them tie in to the dispersion the (liquid) fuel into the air for an even mixture. Vaporization and atomization are closer to each other, atomization is done by pressure and velocity while vaporization seems to focus more on heating a substance. So a spray nozzle would atomize fuel, while applying heat would be vaporizing. You technically can disperse a large amount of liquid solely with one, but the most efficient way involves both processes. Emulsification, on the side, describes how well a mixture has been blended. Since pump fuel is a mixture of components, you want to make sure those additives are being evenly dispersed and not coming out of the mixture being made. The term could be used for the blended fuel, but it can also apply for non-engineered substances, such as water (moisture). I hope that explanation helps in one’s imagination. They do sound similar, but that’s because they depend on each other greatly to make a thorough mixture
@dreadus8125
@dreadus8125 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why this isn't higher up. I searched comments for this, I hate searching comments.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 жыл бұрын
Compress the fuel shortly before the very tight nozzle and watch friction heat it up. The heat also comes from the air. In bad weather you get ice. So better place the carb straight in front of the intake.
@SweatyFatGuy
@SweatyFatGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Atomization is a spray like from a garden hose, its still liquid in varying size droplets. Vaporization is like fog, its no longer in the liquid state, its a vapor. Emulsification is adding air into the circuit to start the atomization sooner. Boiling points decide when a liquid turns to vapor. Everything has a boiling point, even rock and steel. Some are higher than others, some lower in temp. Lower the pressure on the liquid, you lower the boiling point temp. Raise the pressure and you raise the boiling point temp. You can boil water in a styrofoam cup at room temp, if you lower the air pressure around it. The higher in altitude you go, the lower the boiling points are. Evaporation of water starts to happen across the temperature range as long as its above freezing. Water is kinda cool since it doesn't always act like other liquids. Gasoline is made up of various chemical compounds with boiling points between 80F and 450F. Its hard to get it to vaporize as a result. It takes time to vaporize it and needing 450F to do it means it will not get the chance until the combustion event, and then it is too late. Why does it matter to an engine? Well its about surface area, more surface area will burn faster, more completely, and therefore cleaner. If you can vaporize the fuel you will use less fuel to make the same power, because more of it goes to actually pushing the piston rather than going to waste heat. Gasoline in a normal vehicle is around 18% to 20% efficient, in a lab under controlled conditions they can improve that somewhat, but real world consider it well below 20%. That means 80% of the energy goes to waste heat and doesn't power the vehicle. Large droplets have less surface area in a given space than a vapor has. If you pour gasoline into a glass jar and light it on fight, you will see the flame is above the liquid, because it is burning the vapor coming off the liquid. The liquid doesn't burn, the vapor coming off it does. Dump it on the floor and you increase the surface area by a lot so the flame gets larger. Vaporize it so it is a fog and you have no large droplets, its in a different state which vastly increases surface area. Gasoline is relatively slow burning, especially race gas because it doesn't vaporize well. Even when you introduce it to the relative vacuum of the plenum/intake port, it doesn't want to vaporize well. On cold days it does it less effectively than on hot days, but with gasoline you have other things to consider.. like its propensity to ignite when it wants to due to heat and compression rather than when the spark is introduced. Dieseling, detonation, and spark knock.. its breaks stuff and its why diesel engines are built so heavy, because the combustion event happens when it wants to rather than when we tell it to. They also need high compression to get diesel to ignite, that also requires heavier construction. Lots of people are trying to build hot vapor engines that run on gasoline right now. The problem is they have to heat the fuel to over 450F for it to fully vaporize, and the lighter stuff is going to boil into gas long before that. So you get bubbles... and 450F is well out of the range of these engines, except in the exhaust system. Do you want to run your fuel through the exhaust manifold first? That is a not a great idea, very high pressure fuel, more than 100psi to keep the lighter components from boiling running through a exhaust manifold to get enough heat. Can't run it back to the tank either, and your injectors have to be able to withstand that temp. It just got VERY expensive and complicated. On the other side you have ethanol, which has a superior latent heat of vaporization, meaning it cools the intake charge as it vaporizes. The boiling point of ethanol at sea level is 173F, so you can get it to fully vaporize in the intake manifold as it hits the relative vacuum with only 200F fuel temp and 60psi to keep it from boiling. Well within the operating temp of our engines. You can run the engine hot, like 230F coolant temp, heat the fuel to 200F, and even heat the air coming in past the throttle blades, and ethanol will still cool the intake charge making it more dense for the combustion event.. and you will get better mileage than gasoline doing that as well. Throw 20:1 compression in on top of the heating/vaporization and you increase mileage and power well above that of gasoline engines, and possibly above diesel engines as well... but in a lighter, easier to cool engine that makes plenty of power. I am doing that with Pontiac engines with anywhere from 11.5:1 to 13:1 static compression with iron heads and cam timing that builds as much cylinder pressure as I can get. I've surpassed mileage and power over pump gas engines of the same size, and the cool thing is I can go from 7:1 all the way to 13:1 on a Pontiac 455 with just a head swap. So I can do it with the same car, engine, trans, rear, etc. Only the heads and fuel change. 20mpg and 550hp near 600ftlbs from a 7.5L engine running ethanol through an old Qjet carb in a 1970 GTO that weighs 4100lbs and doesn't have all the nice friction reducing things like modern sealed wheel bearings, low aspect ratio tires, lightweight drivetrain components, and reduced rotational mass. It ran mid 11s with a 2.93 gear behind it. I am working on a couple vehicles with less weight and far better aero than my GTOs. Click my name on here if you want to see them and follow my fuel project..
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 жыл бұрын
@@SweatyFatGuy partial pressure. Air is only 21% oxygen molecules, which only have two atoms, which can bind two hydrogens from fuel. Even methane has 4 hydrogens and the carbon catches two oxygens. Equilibrium partial vapor pressure is high enough for most components. I don't know why after destillation high boiling point components still end up in the fuel. Each drop is cooled by evaporation of the lighter fractions and survive until the flame front arrives. The temperature then bakes it into soot (captures only the hydrogen while the fuel forms polymere). Graphite does not evaporate anymore. You may want to look up how fog does scatter light and why that is wavelength dependent and car RADAR can pass it better than breaking lights than blue light.
@TheMCD1989
@TheMCD1989 2 жыл бұрын
I'll always love tinkering with carbs. They are what got me going fixing and modifying stuff, I think the first thing I really ever built was a 1987 Suzuki RM125 back when I was in middle school, came in a bunch of boxes all taken apart for $150. Once I got it together I loved playing with the carb on it changing out jets or adjustments when changing pipes or sprockets. Those older flat or round slide Mikunis I can still pretty much take apart with my eyes closed. In college I bought a brand new Suzuki DRZ400SM and hell they were and I'm pretty sure (10 years later) still are running Mikuni carbs. Sure I'd rather have fuel injection in a daily driver car but nothing beats the satisfaction of throwing a jet kit in a one lunger and having instant gratification when you get it all back together and running. Makes me happy to see such geezerly tech still getting attention.
@garinramadhan6572
@garinramadhan6572 2 жыл бұрын
I've also bought a kawasaki W175 which also runs on mikuni, I'm looking forward to buy a larger jet kit cause its quite difficult to start even when i live in a tropical country and its very sunny outside
@Brettdyt
@Brettdyt 11 ай бұрын
The video says a carb can't change the fuel mixture. That is not true if you ask any general aviation pilot. Most piston aircraft are not fuel injected and have a mixture control knob that allows the pilot to adjust the mixture for changes in elevation and power. There is no reason that couldn't be on a car also.
@deltacx1059
@deltacx1059 2 жыл бұрын
3:44 wait, you can just add servos to the adjustment screw and with a simple microcontroller, some programming and some sensors you can adjust things on the fly.
@daniellau5859
@daniellau5859 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like carbs. When I was looking for a motorcycle, I really wanted one with a carburetor. Now I own an '01 Honda Shadow and it is the most beautiful thing I have ever owned
@ThomasSchratwieser
@ThomasSchratwieser 2 жыл бұрын
I specifically looked for an old BMW with carbs because they're so easy to tune (and can even be tweaked when on the bike!)
@paulbudford
@paulbudford 2 жыл бұрын
Early fuel injection on motorcycles was very abrupt. Especially at little throttle. Much better now. It's a shame that not one new motorcycle in Europe uses carbs now.
@JoeBlack1108
@JoeBlack1108 2 жыл бұрын
Daniel, you must have bumped your head when you were young:) carburetors drove me nuts on cars, didn't mind them on motorcycles. I had a set of mercury gauges to keep them setup.
@Toxic2T
@Toxic2T 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoeBlack1108 I have a 1968 Fiat 600 with still the 28mm original carb on it. Not a single problem! Gonna swap it for a 32MM motorcycle carburettor for a lil performance gain :))
@JoeBlack1108
@JoeBlack1108 2 жыл бұрын
@@Toxic2T that sounds cool, I have a 1969 Pontiac Beaumont I am rebuilding. I am putting in my 3.4 dohc chev that I turbocharged with a Simple Digital System efi that I had in my 85 Fiero, even got a T-5 worldclass going behind it.
@beez1598
@beez1598 2 жыл бұрын
The best thing donut has ever done was bringing Jeremiah in. Great video
@custommotor
@custommotor 2 жыл бұрын
I know how to adjust and tune a carburetor, but I personally don't want to go back to that hell. To me I think what the manufacturer should do is stick with fuel injection, but do what a few of them used to do. If you had a 6 cylinder you would have six injectors, one per cylinder, but some manufacturers also included a 7th injector in the intake. I would want modern manufacturers to do exactly that. Just tune that 7th injector to give only enough fuel to idle the engine. Yes you could do it with a carburetor, but if you do it fuel injection you can shut off that idle injector when moving and just rely on the other six injectors. That's seventh injector would allow the gasoline to clean the back of the valves. Even more so I would actually like to injectors for cylinder. One direct injector and one multi-port injector. The reason I would want 2 it's because then you could use smaller injectors which would help atomize the fuel even better. You could also have a idle and main circuit for each cylinder. Have the multiport injector run more when idling and then phase into both injectors when you need power.
@ascoria980
@ascoria980 2 жыл бұрын
That just sounds like a carb with extra steps
@aaronthomas6155
@aaronthomas6155 2 жыл бұрын
Ford has already started using port+direct injection.....
@karlx-1
@karlx-1 2 жыл бұрын
The production level of you shows is fantastic. I can see the hours spent on set design, lighting, camera work, etc. Plus the post work is fabulous! After Effects and Premiere, etc. It certainly shows.
@colefrance9009
@colefrance9009 2 жыл бұрын
Just for those curious, bikes like the dr400 and xr650l are completely unchanged from their original 1984 designs due to the grandfather law and how much they would have to change to meet modern emissions
@yurgon
@yurgon 11 ай бұрын
The KLR was on that list too, but I believe they finally updated it to EFI
@atlegangletsoge6165
@atlegangletsoge6165 2 жыл бұрын
The valve T-shirt will be well appreciated. In some lovely neutral colours too♡
@charlesgatine7045
@charlesgatine7045 2 жыл бұрын
I saw two small inaccuracies : carbon build on valves is currently remedied by both using catch cans for pcv air and applying dual direct and port injection from the manufacturers. And as someone says somewhere else carbs can have their mixture richness modulated, it's a basic operation by turning a knob on almost pre 1980 's piston engined aircrafts (but it would really too dangerous on a vehicle for the mass market since you can starve or damage the engine if you get it wrong or don' t know what you're doing)
@meegstomtom
@meegstomtom 2 жыл бұрын
Can be remedied is key. Not all OEM cars have catch cans and plenty of at least first gen direct injection did suffer from dirty valves due to not having port injection as well. Leading to problems. Not every one mods there cars.
@charlesgatine7045
@charlesgatine7045 2 жыл бұрын
Yeas you're right. It's still baffling to me that the engineers being the first gen direct injected cars let such a huge flaw pass
@meegstomtom
@meegstomtom 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesgatine7045 I agree. Lol. I'm sure in a clean room with idea fuel direct injection would be ok. But in modern engines especially with forced induction, catch cans and port injection should be a standard.
@vernkoczur
@vernkoczur 2 жыл бұрын
As a person that has 2000 feet in elevation change on my drive to work, I enjoy my fuel injection and would never want to deal with a carb.
@erikscott5709
@erikscott5709 2 жыл бұрын
And that's why airplanes have adjustable-mixture carbs you can control right from the cockpit.
@kyleclearwater7380
@kyleclearwater7380 2 жыл бұрын
I do too and drive a carbed rig. It's not bad if it's tuned right. And with fuel being expensive, I'm enjoying the 40mpg from an 80s car
@o_sagui6583
@o_sagui6583 Жыл бұрын
If I recall correctly there are also some cars sold for really cold climates (yes I am looking at you Russians with their Ladas) That also have manual carb adjustments
@dwaynepenner2788
@dwaynepenner2788 11 ай бұрын
In an aircraft you have more consistent rpm and loads which makes manual mixture adjustments possible
@linkfreeman1998
@linkfreeman1998 11 ай бұрын
​@@erikscott5709if only motorbike and automobiles had those...
@SailingFrolic
@SailingFrolic Жыл бұрын
Things I didn’t know I needed: an air horn that attaches to a cordless impact, and Jeremiah saying “more power baby” like he’s a child.
@BatCaveOz
@BatCaveOz Жыл бұрын
The Isuzu pickup was the last carbureted vehicle in America 1994. (Often, the 1990 Subaru Justy is recorded, incorrectly, as the last carbureted vehicle Other cars that continued with carbs in the 1990's include: Honda 1990 Prelude with twin carbs (oh my!) GM V8 Oldsmobile and Buick station wagons in 1990 Ford Crown Victoria in 1991 Chrysler Jeep Wagoneer in 1991 Internationally, carbureted cars included: 2001 Lada Niva (UK) (These continued in countries such as Egypt until 2014) 2008 VW Golf (South Africa) 2001 Ledbury Maestro (UK). (The IP was then sold to China, who continued making them until 2007) I am pretty sure that UAZ in Chile are still making cars with carburetors in 2023!
@rolling_heavy
@rolling_heavy 2 жыл бұрын
I love my carburetors for their simplicity and serviceability. Once I learned how to properly tune them and maintain them, I just fell in love with them. Hell, even took my 87 E-250 and converted it's 351W from TBI to carb.
@danteinouye6098
@danteinouye6098 2 жыл бұрын
Was it the '87s that had CFI? Cuz that was a royal pain. Ford never made a good throttle body injection system imo
@DjDolHaus86
@DjDolHaus86 2 жыл бұрын
I love my injectors because they've done 180000 miles and never needed servicing. Sure they'll be expensive as hell to replace if they ever fail but when they do it's just plug and play
@a_single_white_female
@a_single_white_female 2 жыл бұрын
They are a fucking nightmare in the winter.
@SirEpifire
@SirEpifire 2 жыл бұрын
​@@a_single_white_female Wait, old gen Ford TBI or carbs? lol
@ajaxracing
@ajaxracing 2 жыл бұрын
@@DjDolHaus86 my 83 k35 has a carb never been opened in 40 years
@iainbagnall4825
@iainbagnall4825 2 жыл бұрын
Carbs can provide variable fuel mix ratios tho, just look at light aircraft engines - red lever is for fuel mix( you get injection on modern light aircraft but it took way longer to become commonplace- aircraft engines need a lot more resilience and redundancy so I assume this goes as far as dual ECUs running on separate electrical systems, or some kind of failure redundant controller to keep the fuel injection running even if you lose all electrical power.) Carbs dont need any electricity and will run flawlessly even in the middle of a thundercloud. Well, icing, but thats another issue... Thus why classic continental 4 liter H block aircraft engine has... Carbs with variable mix and heating Pushrods Two sparks per cylinder each fed by one of two separate Magnetos And Alternator for non engine electrics So you can suffer loss of a cylinder, loss of one complete ignition system, loss of electrical power, loss of a pushrod and it will still run and provide some propulsion. Carbs can also react quicker to deliver pulses of fuel air mix in very high RPM use cases. I don't think there is a fuel injector yet that can keep up at 20k plus RPM.
@greglirot8288
@greglirot8288 2 жыл бұрын
Mechanical fuel injection was a thing in WW2 where the Germans were using mechanical unit injectors (I recall them being unit but I could be wrong) on airborne diesels or on their gasoline engines. It has advantages at high g loading (no sloshing in the bowls) and offers similar benifits as dual carbs (redundancy) while being more fuel efficient.
@iainbagnall4825
@iainbagnall4825 2 жыл бұрын
@@greglirot8288 yes, but also with the attendant issues that mechanical fuel injection is on no way able to respond to environmental factors as well as EFI, and aircraft carbs were able to be modified to defeat negative g fuel starvation as well as automating fuel mixture adjustment with air pressure. Moreover, allies got all that juicy high octane pure race gas from the US vs the Axis who had to put up with dogshit gas produced from coal via the fischer tropsch process, thus the need for methanol or nitrous for very high altitude. Meanwhile, the USAAF and RAF are putting 110 or higher pure gas in their turbosupercharged giant radials or multi stage supercharger inline engines. For anyone interested in that stuff... Go on youtube and look up every interview with Eric Winkle Brown.
@hojnikb
@hojnikb 2 жыл бұрын
EFI can also work with high rpms (just look at older F1s or newer super sport bikes, all are EFI). The issue is direct injection; that can't work reliably over 6,5k. EFI can also react as quick, because ECUs are fast enough to calculate proper fuel delivery. Fact of the matter is that carbs are just not very percise. Elevation, humidity or temparature changes all affect them. So unless you set them up again, they'll never work great under all conditions. Just good enough for you to get moving.
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify 2 жыл бұрын
@@greglirot8288 Their gasoline injection systems were very much like the notorious 'P-pump' beloved by Cummins diesel tuners, basically built like a mini inline engine with a plunger pump for each cylinder. The pump was mounted below the engine, sort of between the cylinder banks (the Germans, in a moment of insanity, chose to make all their high output inline aircraft engines inverted V-12s) in as much as that was possible with the intake manifold and the barrel of an autocannon also occupying that space. Fuel from the pump went to the direct injectors via hardlines, once again very similar to diesel practice. The mixture was controlled mechanically by an system of levers and cams connected to the throttle, pressure diaphragms and other sensors in the intake. If you ever want to make your head spin, look up a diagram of the 'kommandogerat' device used for this function in the Fw-190, it's possibly the world's first ECU, implemented entirely mechanically... which is about as complicated as it sounds, I can't imagine how anyone knew how to fix the thing if it went wrong.
@Sam-lr9oi
@Sam-lr9oi 2 жыл бұрын
I actually believed Jeremiah when he alluded to his age this time
@wwthing
@wwthing 2 жыл бұрын
Def didnt believe when he said he was 20 😆
@eriktruchinskas3747
@eriktruchinskas3747 2 жыл бұрын
Dudes pushing 30 if not past it
@BRIDGEBURNERSTV
@BRIDGEBURNERSTV Жыл бұрын
Carbs are not less efficient; you can adjust them to basically do what you want. They’re just not self-adjusting. Once in a blue moon, you need to turn a screw to get optimum performance. For the average westerner, this is far too much work. Give them EFI, automatic transmission, a longboard, and they’re ready to go home and play video games on auto-aim.
@peterpal3177
@peterpal3177 Жыл бұрын
A good draw through carb system will make you smile I swear.
@calamity075
@calamity075 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats an amazing two stroke with a beast carb on it imo
@iainbagnall4825
@iainbagnall4825 2 жыл бұрын
for an enjoyable evening, look up videos of people starting 2-stroke V8 outboards out of the water where the exhaust is just blasting straight out of the prop into open air... brutal sound.
@blixxy1320
@blixxy1320 2 жыл бұрын
@@iainbagnall4825 there’s also a 2t v8 drag car floating somewhere on yt
@phrodendekia
@phrodendekia 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah like on my Stihl 🤣
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 2 жыл бұрын
@@phrodendekia Stihl??
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 2 жыл бұрын
@@iainbagnall4825 initial sounds look good.
@Blobb2013
@Blobb2013 2 жыл бұрын
German warplanes in WW2 were also fuel injected, which gave them a great advantage in air combat vs the carburated spitfire. The german BF109s engine didn't cut out when flying a loop.
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Жыл бұрын
That's a problem with a carburetor that relies on gravity to regulate the fuel going into the bowl (those which use a float). A carburetor using pressure regulators will not flood out the bowl in negative-g flight regimes. The Spitfire cut power in negative-g because British WWII fighters were barely a step above being put together in a whimsically mad inventor's country barn, not because the engine wasn't fuel-injected.
@dustinbrueggemann1875
@dustinbrueggemann1875 Жыл бұрын
@@BogeyTheBear And the issue can be mostly circumvented by something as simple as an additional flow restriction plate in the fuel reservoir, which is what they actually did as an interim upgrade.
@dustinbrueggemann1875
@dustinbrueggemann1875 11 ай бұрын
@@retiredbore378 There was no disparagement in that remark at all. It was quite literally a credit to her for acknowledging that sometimes the problem is as simple as it looks. Go put that nationalist insecurity back on the shelf.
@ryanphillips5688
@ryanphillips5688 2 жыл бұрын
I had to replace all my fuel injectors on my truck about two weeks ago, cost me over 600 dollars thats enough reason for me to love carburetors
@chrishenniker5944
@chrishenniker5944 Жыл бұрын
I read something on Wikipedia that said the first engine with fuel injection was made in 1909, for aero engines.
@hughjass1835
@hughjass1835 Жыл бұрын
I took the throttle body off an 89 Nissan Pathfinder vg30, put on a small 4 barrel from a Furd 302 and welded the bottom half of the distributor to the top half of a 2.8l hei from an S10. That was in 1994. I still have it, it still runs like a Swiss watch and I gained 32 hrsprss and 4mpg average over stock. Plus now an emp won't shut me down. Long live the carb!!
@killerkip1
@killerkip1 Жыл бұрын
Aircraft piston engines use carburetors with a feature called "economizer", which allows heeps of fuel into the cylinders to aid with cooling the interior cylinders and higher altitude flying. Btw, varnish is welcome vs cleaning leftover lead from an aircraft engine lol. Great video, keep it up!
@jmanvillar6185
@jmanvillar6185 2 жыл бұрын
2:40 Does anyone else think the low pressure and high pressure zone are labeled wrong? Shouldn't they be the oposite... being the low pressure zone where the fluid speeds up and the higher pressure zone at the reservoir
@simonjleclair
@simonjleclair 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, low pressure caused by the vacuum of the intake stroke.
@naseeb46
@naseeb46 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanjones678 Things flow from high pressure to low pressure. By your idea, the air would be getting inside the fuel chamber. When the air speeds up through that tunnel, it creates a low pressure zone. And there isn't much pressure change on the bottom side, it just becomes high pressure comparatively to the top side which is now low pressure.
@johngolonbolon
@johngolonbolon 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, thought it was labelled wrong too. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venturi_effect . They explain this correctly in another video here though, kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6DLfWmBnMamoKM
@naseeb46
@naseeb46 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanjones678 Sorry, buddy, but you're still wrong. You actually know how it works but I think you mixed up low pressure and high pressure. Let me explain it to you with airplane wing, you're right about the air moving over the wing, but when a fluid moves really fast, a low pressure zone is created according to the Bernoulli's principle(which the venturi tunnel is based on). And stuff moves from high pressure zone to low pressure zone. The airplane wing is an airfoil, which is the reason why the air moves over the wing and creates a low pressure zone, which then causes the air from high pressure zone to push on the underside of the wing trying to get to the low pressure zone, causing lift. Source: I'm an Engineer, and have worked on many carburettors. If that's not enough for you, maybe try google next time, you'll be surprised to know that it can give you answers pretty quickly.
@dylanjones678
@dylanjones678 2 жыл бұрын
@@naseeb46 actually yes their graph is off It should be high pressure on the left side low pressure on the right side. I just now realized that the float bowl is exposed to the high and the low side. Their graph was not descriptive enough, that explains what you're saying perfectly. And now it all makes sense.
@ashzciwobuz1277
@ashzciwobuz1277 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly James and Jeremiah are my two favorite hosts on donut. Keep up the good work team
@ian3580
@ian3580 Жыл бұрын
Funny what people prefer. I really like Jeremiah and pretty much everyone except James. If he is in a video, I won't watch. Drives me crazy.
@Droolboy
@Droolboy 11 ай бұрын
06 Honda CBR 600RR with direct injection AND port injection 😎
@LaConchamaint.
@LaConchamaint. 5 ай бұрын
Just did an overhaul on 2002 Suzuki gsx. figured the carbs were due for cleaning even though it ran fine. disassembled the carbs and found no effects of ethanol, the diaphragms were still in good shape. did change out the mixture screws with extended screws so they could be adjusted on the fly. I've had this bike at sea level (Florida) no problems and a mile high in Arizona mountains no problems. The only problems with carbs is lack of experience. Living in Florida by the ocean, I've noticed corrosion on wire harness from salt air and completely wiped out the wire harness on a previous bike. and for that reason makes me stick with carbs.
@CrimsonDeathBed
@CrimsonDeathBed 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I loved this, I love cars and I love this channel but sometimes just someone putting things into perspective gives you a new view and new ideas. I really appreciate the content I'm going to be digging some of that valve merch once it's out. Yes, that's a hint you should do valve merch.
@asssm89
@asssm89 Жыл бұрын
You can tell jer some great creative teachers.
@aaronburratwood.6957
@aaronburratwood.6957 2 жыл бұрын
The Mustang was actually fuel injected in 1985 on the GTs with automatic transmissions. Dropping knowledge on your b’hind.
@iamclickb4it
@iamclickb4it 2 жыл бұрын
I'll remember this random information for ever
@aaronburratwood.6957
@aaronburratwood.6957 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamclickb4it It was throttle body injection too🤮
@hojnikb
@hojnikb 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronburratwood.6957 pretty much the worst kind of injection. Barely better than carbs.
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify 2 жыл бұрын
@Elliottfan1993 TBI still gives you a little less flow restriction than a carb because there's no venturi, so it should be good for a very slight power increase.
@wyrazowfkp
@wyrazowfkp 2 жыл бұрын
The Mustang was actually fuel injected in 1968 with a Conelec EFi in a EXP500 "Green Hornet" :D Also the 1983 Mustang Turbo and 1984 SVO 2.3 Turbo Mustang had the fuel injection already -- after the 79-80 carb turbo Mustangs. Still they've made carburated Mustangs up to 1989 - for 1990 the 2.3 finnaly got the EFi
@Nick.Ackerman
@Nick.Ackerman 2 жыл бұрын
I lol'd at the dirty valve 🤣🤣
@tinytattoomike7943
@tinytattoomike7943 2 жыл бұрын
Bent valve needed
@alienpoker
@alienpoker 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinytattoomike7943 You already have a bent valve.
@stealdst
@stealdst 2 жыл бұрын
The graphic at 8:20 says “benzine” but it should be “benzene” 🤓. Benzine is an old timey word for gasoline or similar blends of light aromatic hydrocarbons including benzene (c6h6). In Italy, “benzina” is the word for gasoline, which is a cool holdover from that time.
@joeschmo9953
@joeschmo9953 2 жыл бұрын
Good catch and good info on the historical use of the word 'benzine'.
@WesternReloader
@WesternReloader Жыл бұрын
My 07 Triumph had a carb, my 1980 Bronco has a carb, and I have a back up carb, backup fuel pump, backup distributor guts, redundancy is good
@floridaman7
@floridaman7 2 жыл бұрын
2:16 skip the ad
@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios 2 жыл бұрын
Carbs really are amazing pieces of mechanical engineering, like a watch mechanism. A fuel injector is just not as impressive to look at, IMHO.
@AshenTechDotCom
@AshenTechDotCom 2 жыл бұрын
also...alot harder to "Rebuild" an injector... where as a carb...well...shit we once got a truck 48 miles back to town using 2 jerry cans after the fuel pump died, just moved fuel to the cans and used gravity feed to the carb, no way we would have gotten back in an injected rig without parts... also why my friends crawling rigs are all "old tech".. even if modern versions i have seen and tested examples of are far more modern and the electronics can allow for alot better results BUT from the 2 we tested, you could hand tune them to run without the electronics engaged for emergency fallback. when i was in highschool a friends father bought a kit to rebuild a holly carb that he got free but that was over 500usd when new, he sucked at rebuilding carbs and had been putting it off... i was board waiting for the computer we were fixing to install windows, the carb and parts were sitting there... i rebuilt it... mostly as i talked to his dad.. when i was done, he asked me who taught me to do that... "taught me???" its mechanical... its honestly not that hard to rebuild most carbs... and in this case, the unit was gummed up after the fellows ex dumped some sort of varnish into his gas tank... he got the fuel system cleaned and just swapped the carb for the stock one the car came with till he could have the place install a better one... gave my buddies father the dirty one... later i went to his shelf of solvents and put the parts that were varnished up into a glass jar and put in a mix of solvents i knew was safe and would 100% break down the varnish given a bit of time..put the jar on his stereo speaker....ghetto ultrasonic cleaner.. LOL.. it worked great honestly... the parts ended up getting used years later to re-re-build it after his brother put corn race fuel into the car that he was told it was never to be used in... (they use the stuff for specific cars when racing, the carbs jets were...visibly varnished... a place i use to work has been working with other 3m companies to come up with a coating to prevent such issues for years, they have some promising projects going on im told... including a ceramic coating they have been testing with fuel injection, that apparently is the most promising because it could be made into a fuel additive that helps clean any varnish of and prevent more from sticking... they im told anyway, are in the phase of long term testing with a stack of engines and engine types to including 2 of my buddies RX7's hes not worried about having to rebuild even if that becomes needed, he doubts it will be... apparently from the testing they been doing it seems to reduce apex seal wear as well... (im told they are also testing a 2stroke oil additive thats what hes actually using with his fuel oiler setup...his rx7's are all modified to not pull oil from the oil pan... as that oils designed not to burn and leaves a mess inside the engine over time... hoping it turns out to be a good all around series of projects they are working on...
@Baukevandijk
@Baukevandijk 2 жыл бұрын
The Carburetor is an Amazing device that will win to any fuel injected car. As long as there is an EMP strike right before the race and the injected car does not use mechanical fuel injection.
@clevernduruza8624
@clevernduruza8624 2 жыл бұрын
But both need ignition though
@georgejungle138
@georgejungle138 2 жыл бұрын
So it doesn’t win every time? Because you made an exception
@puebespuebes8589
@puebespuebes8589 Жыл бұрын
Screw and analog are back BABY !
@hendrickswart4122
@hendrickswart4122 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly in South Africa the carburettor motorcycles above 600cc was banned almost a decade ago, so the Honda XL650 has disappeared. It was intresting to see it's still available in parts of the USA. That was really a charismatic thumper.
@drewncars9505
@drewncars9505 2 жыл бұрын
Not too long ago I watched an engineering explained video about direct injection and port injection. The way direct makes up for the short amount of time for atomization is the high pressure in which they are injected. The fuel is actually better atomized than from port injection because of the fine mist and high pressure. It still does have the other drawbacks you mentioned though!
@keashaneverts4452
@keashaneverts4452 2 жыл бұрын
Driving 4 answers? Driving 4 answers...
@ErosGalaxia
@ErosGalaxia 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Carbs can’t run if the engine is upside down while EFI will continue to run even if the engine is upside down.
@levistrauss5378
@levistrauss5378 2 жыл бұрын
Disappointed to know I won't be able to drive on the ceiling.
@TheRealSykx
@TheRealSykx 2 жыл бұрын
Miss Beatrice ‘Tilly’ Shilling fixed that during WW2
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 2 жыл бұрын
This! Very important to remember when building a car or a MC... With slightly less sarcasm: That's just one problem with inverting a running engine. There's also lubrication and possibly cooling problems if it's water cooled. The carburetor conking out when inverted was actually a problem with early Supermarine Spitfire and Hurricane. A lot of research was done and Rolls-Royce, the manufacturer of the Merlin engine, constructed a new carburetor to solve this, unfortunately it failed in testing. In the end it was solved by Beatrice Shilling, also known as Tilly, who made a flow restrictor that allowed for just enough pass through to support maximum power. She refined it to a flat washer that could be installed in the existing carburetors without any other modification necessary. Two versions were available to match the flowrates of the standard and supercharged version of the Merlin. In addition to making sure the carb can work inverted you also have to make sure the fuel tank can deliver the dino juice when inverted...
@bluspectre2042
@bluspectre2042 2 жыл бұрын
This is certainly an issue for aircraft, but not so much with cars on the ground. There is a way to circumvent this, via a sort of loop in the tube.
@suzysuzuki8865
@suzysuzuki8865 2 жыл бұрын
Some carbs can. I've been upside down, engine still running, with a modified harley davidson cv carb I put on my offroader
@phillycheezcake907
@phillycheezcake907 2 жыл бұрын
"Jeremiah Burton I'm 22 years old" was I lied to I'm NOT mad just upset
@issacdaniels942
@issacdaniels942 2 жыл бұрын
The reason that these modern vehicles are sticking with a carburetor setup is because a carburetor is less expensive and you don’t have to replace your fuel injectors So theoretically a carburetor is more reliable
@joshlewis5065
@joshlewis5065 Жыл бұрын
I got a Smartcarb for my RM85 2 stroke. It is thr best carburetor I have ever seen. It has an internal shutoff for if the bike tilts over, so it just has 1 hose coming out the bottom for a bowl drain. It has a 'fuel screw' to adjust fueling and a choke. That's literally it. It's awesome
@kirito2769
@kirito2769 2 жыл бұрын
Something cool a lot of people don’t know is that Holley actually makes a EFI Carburetor that works really well
@jakefinlay5312
@jakefinlay5312 2 жыл бұрын
That is a TBI , it's neither EFI or a carburettor, but yes Holley makes some really great ones
@baldemarsanchez2851
@baldemarsanchez2851 2 жыл бұрын
And it’s a pain in the A$$ but once you get it dialed in it’s sensational 😌
@CentralArkansasHomesteadandOff
@CentralArkansasHomesteadandOff 2 жыл бұрын
You are referring to holley sniper efi.
@Juandongduck
@Juandongduck Жыл бұрын
​​@jakefinlay5312 Throttle body injection is electronic fuel injection. Anyone who works on or thinks about cars knows about it lol. Edit: the last part was for the original message
@dwaynepenner2788
@dwaynepenner2788 11 ай бұрын
@@jakefinlay5312tbi is a form of efi, as is mpi, gdi, etc. however Bosch and Hilbourn made a mechanical fuel injection (there were versions of mechanical fuel injection used at least as early as WWII aircraft)
@benjaminsmith7766
@benjaminsmith7766 2 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah, some carbs have accelerator pumps, so you don't have to wait for the Venturi and Bernoulli effect for throttle response.
@davidmiller571
@davidmiller571 Жыл бұрын
I would say most carbs have accelerator pumps even
@Juandongduck
@Juandongduck Жыл бұрын
​@@davidmiller571yeah anything other than a low performance 1 cylinder or something like a pump engine
@jacob3709
@jacob3709 2 жыл бұрын
As a mechanic, carburetors were always easier to tune than efi systems
@mikem9536
@mikem9536 Жыл бұрын
The issue is, so many people did not tune carbs on a regular basis, you'd see cars driving around with a carb that had not been tuned in a decade or 2, but would still "run".
@Hashiriya985
@Hashiriya985 11 ай бұрын
just need a screwdriver and some elbow grease!
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 11 ай бұрын
In all honesty I never "tuned" the Carter two barrel on my 78 E-150. I do lubricate the accelerator pump with Tri-flo. And have about 520k miles on the van, but the shop that rebuilt the 351W set the carb as they should have after a rebuild and warmer cam... One mistake that most mechanics often make is messing with the cab when the problem is with the Bloody Automatic Transmission. But my E-150 has a 4 speed manual trans as all my cars have been manual transmission cars and trucks. Why??? Because as a former Wrench, I hate cars as they make you bleed. I also hate annoying customers as well... @@mikem9536
@pollodustino
@pollodustino 11 ай бұрын
At my job we have a bunch of small engines and we use the standard 10% ethanol fuel in California for everything. If our operators don't run the small engines at least once or twice a month the carbs get gummed up and we have to either disassemble and clean, or completely replace the carb. We started buying ethanol-free fuel for our boats and stand-by generators and we haven't had a problem with gummed up carbs ever since.
@adamdesalvo6949
@adamdesalvo6949 2 жыл бұрын
It only took me 15 years. Truly understand. Carburetors and how to properly tube them. Once you learn it, they're magnificent.
@cavemanken7029
@cavemanken7029 2 жыл бұрын
I love the animations you guys bring to the show - but Dirty Valve and Slappy Valve is a stretch
@ceazarjaca7504
@ceazarjaca7504 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a HiLow with drift cars
@georgepacheco9983
@georgepacheco9983 2 жыл бұрын
Would like a motorcycle one also
@rudypineda3884
@rudypineda3884 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when Jeremiah first joined and people were giving him a hard time. I knew this mans would shine 🙏🏾🙏🏾
@jerry_alpaca_loca_69
@jerry_alpaca_loca_69 Жыл бұрын
Give me a hard kok
@slaughterhousechi
@slaughterhousechi 2 жыл бұрын
thank you. this is the best general carb video ive seen and comparing motorcycles to cars and why they differ in regulations
@ProDigit80
@ProDigit80 2 жыл бұрын
They should use a regular old fashioned lean tuned carburetor, with a 12v low pressure fuel injector (port injection) to compensate, and to use on a cold engine. Efi can be direct fuel injection, which can increase compression ratio vs a carb.
@mycosys
@mycosys 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you start the episode with quad carb ITBs...... and then say you cant tune each cylinder individually with carburettors the entire ep.
@monte-zh9ue
@monte-zh9ue 2 жыл бұрын
Are you pointing out a mistake? If so please explain I haven't picked up much about carbs
@luckiee_
@luckiee_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@monte-zh9ue itb's (individual throttle bodies) are basically 1 small carb per cylinder, allowing you to tune them individually for all cylinders. mostly used for racing applications to maximise air/fuel ratios (or if you want that sweet succ sound). they typically have a small 'trumpet' on each carb meaning the air is jetted directly into the cylinder rather than through an intake manifold which benefits afr's by allowing the air to take a more direct path. they also sound fukken sikk :)
@monte-zh9ue
@monte-zh9ue 2 жыл бұрын
@@luckiee_ thanks I was wondering about it and thanks again
@422JF
@422JF 2 жыл бұрын
i'm no expert and as far as i could understand he did not said can't tune carb. he just explain that efi are more complex and more efficient and easily tuned. 😅
@aaronthomas6155
@aaronthomas6155 2 жыл бұрын
In a typical automotive application, you have 1 carb serving the entire engine. This prevents per-cylinder tuning. ITBs have only been common on motorcycles.
@atlegangletsoge6165
@atlegangletsoge6165 2 жыл бұрын
Donut Media. The Best car shows ever. Big ups 💎
@mirceadimian4048
@mirceadimian4048 2 жыл бұрын
What I really have on my mind, can't figure it out and really REALLY would like to see from you guys is a video about BLOWN CARBURETORS ! I find the principle of turbocharged NON fuel injected systems rather fascinating. Thank you.
@hojnikb
@hojnikb 2 жыл бұрын
Boosted setups need boost referenced carburators to work properly. Otherwise you don't have a vaacum to draw in gasoline from the float bowl.
@mirceadimian4048
@mirceadimian4048 2 жыл бұрын
@@hojnikb and yet another reason I'm dead curious for these guys to make a detailed video about.
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify 2 жыл бұрын
@@hojnikb Supercharged systems can use a 'draw through' design where the carb is upstream of the blower, in which case no boost reference is needed. Not necessarily the best setup for all applications however.
@legoferrari14
@legoferrari14 2 жыл бұрын
Even though the top flight of NASCAR; the Cup Series, moved on to Fuel Injection during the Car of Tomorrow era, carburetion is still the fuel delivery method of choice in some of the lower tiers, including the Whelen Euro Series, not to mention other niche championships across the world such as the National Hot Rods championships in the UK (no relation to the USA's NHRA).
@danaburdett7090
@danaburdett7090 2 жыл бұрын
The Pontiac firefly was sold until 1997 I think. Which with its 1.0L 3cyl carb motor would make it the newest carb vehicle produced.
@jeremiahmauricio5377
@jeremiahmauricio5377 2 жыл бұрын
The carburetor has another problem, in High G movements off throttle the float can drop or lift causing proper fueling problems. In a carb'd race car I own, lifting in turns can stall the motor.
@concorde837
@concorde837 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah that reminds me, that was one of the problems of the earlier Spitfires too.
@tommybally03
@tommybally03 2 жыл бұрын
Valves! Is there a video on the ICE valves, everything from normal to exotic materials used in them? Whatever happened to the company that had round valves that didn’t require springs(late 90s -2000)? Great content and the presentation is always amazing!
@carlosg8716
@carlosg8716 2 жыл бұрын
10:09 That's not a catalytic converter! That's a muffler.
@salogel88
@salogel88 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed..
@422JF
@422JF 2 жыл бұрын
i think that's only for illustration purposes. and some old cats looked like that 😅
@paularcaria
@paularcaria Жыл бұрын
I chose to use a DR650 to ride around the world because it's been the same bike since 1996. It broke down once in a while but it always let me know it was going to break down. The Carb never just quit. It kinda slowed down.
@wazza33racer
@wazza33racer 5 ай бұрын
I know mechanics in the Australian military that service the military dirt bikes, which often sit around and dont get used between the 6 months service checks. Very often, the fuel injected late model bikes they have now, have failed fuel injectors, just from sitting around.
@roland9367
@roland9367 2 жыл бұрын
I always skipped the whole carburator thing. And when we were driving around on the highest motor-able mountain passes, some guys with older Yamaha and BMW bikes had to mess around with the carburator because it would run bad. Thankfully I never had to deal with adjusting carbs. Or adjusting an EFI for that matter, because it would just work. Still great insight though. I guess any industry is going to continue do to the same if they can sell it, so that is the main reason why we have regulations.
@worldfamous1949
@worldfamous1949 2 жыл бұрын
Jerbear needs more shows or, he needs to start teaching an automotive theory course. His videos are my go-to for teaching the lube monkeys the basics, I can always tell which ones are gonna make it into the shop and which ones need to start looking for another job, based on the way they intake the info from Jeremiah's videos. Keep up the good work!! 👍👍
@c3mi979
@c3mi979 2 жыл бұрын
phuk yeah
@json8172
@json8172 2 жыл бұрын
The vacuum from the engine actually pulls the fuel out of the carb. Not the air coming in.
@DougalYoung
@DougalYoung 2 жыл бұрын
It is actually the fast moving, low-pressure air passing before the discharge nozzle which pulls the fuel from the nozzle. The air is pulled in by the vacuum created by the piston moving in the cylinder.
@davenilson7063
@davenilson7063 2 жыл бұрын
Carbs that are open to the atmosphere, like most found in cars/trucks, work great with ethanol. If left to sit for days +, the fuel will all evaporate and leave clear ports behind. My carburated 1971 daily works great with 10% ethanol fuel.
@87Sakiel
@87Sakiel 2 жыл бұрын
Got a 2020 suzuki dr 650. Love carb. I treat fuel for storage and its all good. Gotta keep in mind to empty the carb if you dont drive for a long time.
@lance_the_avocado9492
@lance_the_avocado9492 2 жыл бұрын
I actually think the idea of the Carb coming back is really cool, I’d love to see a Dodge Demon or Charger Hellcat with a carb and still push nutty amounts of horsepower.
@sugma69420
@sugma69420 Жыл бұрын
No
@DerrickRG91
@DerrickRG91 Жыл бұрын
@@sugma69420 yes.
@georgeblack589
@georgeblack589 Жыл бұрын
Yes.@@sugma69420
@loganwork7024
@loganwork7024 2 жыл бұрын
I'd buy a new truck if they threw a carborated chevy big block with a long stick manual in a heart beat. I dont think I'll be buying a truck soon
@adamhayden5152
@adamhayden5152 2 жыл бұрын
Why?!?! That is super stupid. So you wanna use more gas and make less power and shift slower and be overall slower huh?
@tristanheaton2127
@tristanheaton2127 2 жыл бұрын
Bro carbs are shit for big engines
@gameovr17
@gameovr17 2 жыл бұрын
Donut needs to creating a marketing company. Yalls commercials are better then 99% of companies commercials. I honestly dont know how any of those people still have jobs.
@milk_420
@milk_420 Жыл бұрын
my 1981 cb750 has 29mm CR Special carbs with big velocity stacks. she needs a rebuild, but that sound is just unforgettable
@burkejohnson4539
@burkejohnson4539 2 жыл бұрын
Your graphic at 2:42 is actually wrong, Bernoulli's principle means that the faster a fluid is flowing, the lower the pressure is. This means that in the carb's Venturi tunnel, the higher speed air is really lower pressure, this needs to happen for fuel to be sucked through the jets. The standing air in the bowl is higher pressure. Love the channel, because of you guys I got my first project car two days ago (95 Accord coupe 🙂 ), just figured I'd call this one out to help you guys keep on making great content that gets people into the world of cars.
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