"England lost CONTROL!" | England 1-0 Serbia REACTION

[@Civilis1980]

So far, your podcast is my fav thing about the Euros

[@Ogma3bandcamp]

Brilliant podcast before the Euros tbf. Hopefully the Euros lifts this podcast to levels of views it deserves.

[@limitless1919]

26 playes in the squad, 5 substitutions per game, use them!!!

[@WaniZame]

Foden isn’t the best player for the 10 or the right wing so has to be benched. He had some horrible passing and lost balls last night. Need an outright winger on the left to make up for Tripper as a makeshift left back.

[@The6Foot4Asian]

Is it a hot take to say Foden should be on the right ahead of Saka? Then Grealish should be on the left

[@redbloodcell4047]

​@@monkey39128Gordon at the very least. Shaw might not be fit to start against Denmark but I think he'll be subbed on at some point.

[@NedTesco]

​@@The6Foot4AsianSaka has arguably been our best player in the last two tournaments, as well as very consistently excellent in the games in between, and you want to take him out for a player who's never really performed in an England shirt in a variety of positions?

[@samuelparkinson5407]

Felt Foden, Trippier and Kane's performances made the job harder for the midfield three. Made the pitch very small which in turn limited Trent's passing.

[@Cammy_1707]

A better quality team lastnight capitalises on the control they had against England. England can’t allow teams to dominate like that for 60 minutes. Can Luke not even slightly accept the shortcomings of Southgate?

[@Alex-lc7v]

Dominate for 60 minutes 😂😂😂😂 Southgate is an appalling manager but come off it 😂

[@Cammy_1707]

@@Alex-lc7v controlled for 30 minutes and done nadda for 60 minutes.

[@halfeatengamer3400]

England don’t give a better side that much freedom on the ball. It was a case of dealing with what was in front of them. Getting a stodgy win against a stodgy team is quite normal. Look at France edging past Austria, and they’re supposed to be the best team at the tournament.

[@Cammy_1707]

@@halfeatengamer3400 Austria are a different kettle of fish to Serbia. They’re levels above Serbia. They would cause real problems down the left hand side of England with bamguarter.

[@NedTesco]

​@@Cammy_1707"levels above Serbia" - based on what? Putting aside the sheer size and physicality of the team, they've also got some top players in that side in the likes of Milinkovic-Savic, Vlahovic, Kostic, Mitrovic, Milenkovic, Tadic etc

[@Dan-mm1yl]

Players or formation will make little difference until england play with tempo on the ball and movement off the ball Static team when you watch good teams there is constant movement

[@sihi5634]

Strange takes in this podcast A) move our best player and match winner deeper away from the goal to accommodate a worse player who played poorly… B) Trent is to blame for bellinghams drop off, yet when Gallagher came on for Trent Bellingham didn’t get any batter… 🧐 Make it make sense

[@coryevans6093]

unfortunately these podcasts are just filled with people with agendas they have no idea what they are talking about they just want to criticise players they don't like.

[@sihi5634]

@@coryevans6093 the agendas thing is certainly true, everyone has one though to be fair. I do think they know what they are talking about in the main but they do get blinded by the agendas. Like foden for example, I love him but have we not learned from the golden generation debate?! They’ve even talked about it in the podcast, sometimes there isn’t space for a player, unless you set the system up for it and I don’t think Southgate is capable of that in all honesty, again, as much as I think he’s a nice bloke.

[@ConorF727]

It’s not all about one player. We need proper width on the left, playing Foden central and Bellingham deeper is one obvious way to do that. Bellingham has played there his whole career other than this season.

[@sihi5634]

@@ConorF727 I’m saying that’s a bad idea, we lose his goal threat, foden was also terrible even when he got the ball. Foden plays incredibly in a very structured city team, playing for England isn’t the same thing, I’m not sure he can ever hit the city heights for England whereas Bellingham can do it in any team, he needs to be close to goal, especially with Kane looking off it/injured, we have no other goal threat in the team.

[@ConorF727]

@@sihi5634 I think it’s unfair to say Bellingham can do it in any team and Foden can’t, the team has been set up for Bellingham to shine whereas that can’t be said for Foden. I don’t agree about him being the only goal threat, don’t write off Kane after one bad game. And also, dropping Bellingham deeper would give the team more balance with someone other than Trippier providing the attacking threat on the left, which in theory should give us more chance of scoring more goals.

[@geekylove3603]

Has anyone got Gallaghers ball recovery and duel stats because I don't think he's that guy...

[@coryevans6093]

he is bang average but he has mastered the art of looking busy and for some reason England fans have always been obsessed with road runners.

[@gustoaudio8711]

Pick players to fit a system or pick a system to fit your players, either way Southgate is getting it wrong again…

[@Ogma3bandcamp]

Mainoo should be in ahead of Trent and Gallagher for me.

[@bayleigh37sherlock67]

Why

[@ConorF727]

@@bayleigh37sherlock67 Because he’s a special player and Trent is not a midfielder. You can make an argument for Gallagher because he brings different attributes.

[@bayleigh37sherlock67]

@@ConorF727 he’s got no experience in mid or at all in tournaments just being special don’t cut it

[@redbloodcell4047]

​@@bayleigh37sherlock67How is he going to get experience in tournaments if we don't give him it?

[@bayleigh37sherlock67]

@@redbloodcell4047 keep that argument with Trent

[@wesleylang172]

Imagine we had lost this game. English media is the worst.

[@Li8mBenz]

The ceding of control is an issue. Especially if it’s by choice. That means it’s a personality thing and winners don’t deliberately cede control unless they are tricking their opponent. Winners do cede control but they wrestle it back. We didn’t wrestle back control we counted the clock down. That hasn’t been effective for us yet.

[@dunnyzed6953]

Obviously we’ll need to improve to go deep into this tournament but you’d think we lost 5-0 last night reading today’s media.

[@Enzoblueblood]

@@monkey39128agree about the wild reactions; England always generate drama, but there are some worrying bad habits creeping back in the way England are playing right now: the static tempo; defending too deep; the lack of game intelligence, particularly from Trent and Foden who everyone has been berating Southgate to cram into the system and from Pickford persisting with hitting long balls to Kane who never wins them, Southgate’s usual inertia, etc.. The team doesn’t look as prepared as before.

[@jameslazer819]

Before the game, everyone had questions about defense. Gareth would have shared that concern. So what do you think they have spent most of their energies on in camp so far? England went defensive cos they have spent the last week/s drilling that. Give them credit, that was excellent. Worrying about attack is forgetting where we were two weeks ago.

[@redbloodcell4047]

Yeah I agree. Overall I thought it was a fairly positive game for the defence, and Guehi was great.

[@Rick-lp2wx]

Trent didn’t loose the ball 11 times? He lost the ball 4 times and one time he recovered it himself. It was foden that lost the ball 11 times. No outlet on the left. Foden and Bellingham in each others way.

[@jack28aug]

gk pickford rb trent rcb walker cb stones lcb/lb gomez/guehi cdm rice 8 bellingham 10 foden lw gordon/eze st kane rw saka.

[@RepCommando11381]

EAAAAAAASY

[@AndrewVeliz]

The game really highlighted Southgate's lack of ability to utilize the strength of the young talent England has. There's also a need to have an out right seasoned winger instead of pushing Foden out wide. Grealish and Rashford being left out of the squad is definitely a mistake by Southgate for now.

[@ConorF727]

Does Luke think that when you win you can’t criticise anything?

[@DrawnInk1]

Last week it was because it’s the last game before a tournament now it’s the first game of the tournament. I’d say it was wrong formation for the players we have which are outstanding.

[@sunjaypatel4584]

We can discuss whatever we like about England all day and night. But when it comes to the final hurdle, they seem to always fall. They only seemed to beat the teams that they are supposed to

[@NedTesco]

Foden needs to be benched. He's been given opportunities on the right, in the 10 and as an 8 and has consistently stunk up the place. At a certain point we can't keep making excuses and the onus is on him to demand his place through performances. I'd understand the constant push to accommodate him if we were like Wales and he was our one Bale superstar - but we're stacked in forward positions and unfortunately that means some top players are gonna miss out.

[@No_Limits_411]

Where's the "eeeeeeazyyyy"?? It was but then it wasn't. What's up?

[@geekylove3603]

The manager needs to embrace the squad and the 5 subs. England were decent at the world cup and apart from the use of subs against France I thought Southgate did well. The better performances were a consequence of making early varied subs. Palmer Eze Wakins Worton/Manioo should all get 20 mins plus no matter the score on Thursday.

[@mattodonnell7186]

Do you chaps think Foden is a good player? I really worry this tournament will not help him if he has to be understudy to Bellingham even though he’s so much better than him he shouldn’t start and Phil might be the reason why Southgate is sacked

[@edenholt4394]

I don’t see the experiment of playing our left back (Trippier) as a left winger in possession as really a sustainable fix to the ‘Foden problem’. All you’re doing is playing more players in uncomfortable positions, hence why all our attacks in the first half ended up going through the right hand side. Either, Southgate has to do the unthinkable and actually drop Bellingham into a deeper position and play Foden as the 10 (I believe this is our best option). Or the second best option would be to bench Foden and play Gordon left wing. I think Southgate will most likely do neither and decide to keep playing Foden as a left wing simply as a way to get him on the pitch and it won’t work, as much as I wish it would.

[@NedTesco]

Bench Foden for Gordon or Eze. At a certain point we can't just keep trying to accommodate a player who consistently stinks up the place (including when he's been given chances as a 10 or on the right). Being so stacked in attacking positions means certain big names are gonna have to miss out.

[@edenholt4394]

@@NedTesco like I said I’m not against Foden being benched, it’d be an improvement on what we saw on Sunday. But I don’t think it’s our best possible option either.

[@inquistivemoat7854]

I think we owe Foden a bit more time - but coke palmer must be licking his lips ready to COOK

[@NedTesco]

Do we though? The lad's been consistently poor in a variety of positions. We're in the tournament now. I'd get sticking with him if we had no other good options but we're absolutely stacked with talent in those areas - sometimes that means big names lose out. Give Gordon or Eze a chance at LW.

[@kimbirch1202]

Foden should have been replaced with Gordon at half time imo, as he was largely ineffectual. It seems silly to me to try and revolve the team around Foden. At least the defence was OK against Serbia, but how is it possible that we should have to rely on the defence against a mediocre team.?

[@leeturton9254]

I think England gassed a little...some of them are clearly not running at full tank I also think physically it was tough...the ref was allowing Serbia to get a little rough...which is good but it's not the norm these days...that might have knocked England a bit second half...but they dug out that win and that's all that counts ....it's not marks out of ten is it? ...

[@davejones5822]

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[@lewishagan9319]

talk about giving away balls and then say gallagher in 🤣

[@drunkflamingolive]

Trent is the whipping boy because Gordon and Bellingham can’t play together

[@jlawless7112]

England can't win a major trophy playing like that, you can't score one goal early and expect to hold on. Their defence isn't good enough for that. France Portugal or Germany will beat them when they try it

[@HitmanHarrison94]

/.

[@JamesKerwin]

Yeah because France smashed their opposition 😂😂

[@jlawless7112]

@@JamesKerwin doesn't matter how France played. England can't sit back on a one goal lead with the defence and keeper they have, do you think Pickford and that back line can defend a one goal lead against a good team??

[@NedTesco]

France won in 2018 playing 442 and had 35% possession in the final. Argentina also played 442 in 2022 and also had low possession outside of playing France.

[@jlawless7112]

@@NedTesco both of those teams had better defenders and keepers than England do, do you think Pickford is as good as Hugo Lloris and Emi Martinez?

[@ConorF727]

The strange obsession with playing Bellingham further forward causes two of the biggest issues in the team - shoehorning Foden into the side on the left which means we have absolutely no width and are unbalanced, and the absolute nonsense Trent experiment in midfield. Just play Bellingham in his *actual* position and play someone like Gordon on the left, it’s not rocket science.

[@XavierJAlexander]

Strange obsession? As in the position he plays in a champions league winning team and has put him in the running for the Balon D’or - you don’t have a clue

[@ConorF727]

@@XavierJAlexander Do you actually watch him? He’s anonymous in a lot of games. He has played his whole career in a deeper role but Madrid played him further forward out of necessity because they have no striker and all of a sudden people think he has to play there. His performances as a box to box midfielder earned him a €100m transfer but now he has to start as the number 10? There’s only one of us who’s clueless here and it’s not me.

[@edenholt4394]

You’re bang on. It’s like we’ve turned into Bellingham FC where everything needs to be about him and we’ve got to play players out of position to accommodate him. Don’t get me wrong, he’s excellent as a 10 because he’s a very rounded footballer, but he’s equally as good if not better as an 8 which is where we NEED him to play. Any manager other then Southgate would understand how obvious this is.

[@ConorF727]

@@edenholt4394 Exactly. The biggest conversation going into the tournament was all about who should play alongside Rice, ermmm how about the world class midfielder we have in the squad?

[@ConorF727]

@@XavierJAlexander Hi mate, would you like to admit how wrong you were?

[@bigceazer]

all i heard here was 47 mins worth of England COPE. England WILL get knocked out by the first top team they play, its just inevitable.

[@tyneskipper]

brexit pompey man being dismissive of his colleagues again

[@Alex18NY]

The most overrated players in my lifetime - Gascoigne, Rooney, Beckham, Kane.

[@Irokeshi]

Surely this is bait

[@ConorF727]

Embarrassing comment if this isn’t a troll.

[@HungryBellyT]

Love Luke but for the love of god let others finish their points before jumping all over them

[@Alex18NY]

The most overrated team in football history. The amount of mental gymnastics the English media do to delude themselves about the team is embarrassing.

[@Alex18NY]

They play like individuals, and the individuals are overrated. England lacks discipline and mental strength. Add a manager who refuses to enjoy his job, who overthinks, and who mishandles the few talents he does have. Forget it, dudes.

[@kwandsssss]

foden wide open is lots of great pockets and no one wanted to pass. jude playing selfishly

[@wawawcrown7718]

First

[@rajimus]

TRent gave the ball away 12 times. he was awful. Who is this guy AHA.