How long have you got? Comparing different era's is fraught with danger. I would divide this with a pre 2003 or an after 2003. Those with a World Cup medal cannot be ignored, no-one else did it.
@Tony-gl8nd5 ай бұрын
@@rugbybuzz Gusscot.
@michaelday84595 ай бұрын
Here's a whole team ;-P Brian Moore, Joe Marler, Jeff Probyn, Wade Dooley, Steve Borthwick, Mickey Skinner, Sam Underhill, Mike Teague, Danny Care, Will Carling, Rory Underwood, Owen Farrell, Jeremy Guscott, Martin Offiah, Mike Brown
@101dannybhoy5 ай бұрын
Richard Hill, Simon Shaw, Rory Underwood, Nigel Melville.
@marktucker79765 ай бұрын
I cannot believe anyone would leave out Richard Hill, Jeremy Guscott or Rory Underwood ridiculous
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
This is just my list buddy! Was based on a lot of research but each to their own ☝🏼 What’s your XV? 😎
@rprobp1865 ай бұрын
Courtney is great Richard hill was a phenomenal player and should be one of the first names on the team sheet to be honest.
@marktucker79765 ай бұрын
@@rprobp186 lawes at 5 Hill at 6 sorry Maro
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
@@rprobp186 Fair play! Who else deserved a shout in the team?
@marktucker79765 ай бұрын
@@Sunshinez732 no way Wilkinson and Farrell both better all round 10s
@brucebush57445 ай бұрын
Cotton, Wheeler, Duckham. The older you get, the more players you’ve seen and the trickier it gets to grade “greatness”.
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Very true! A few legends missed out on my list - great shouts by you!!! 💪🏻
@Tony-gl8nd5 ай бұрын
Not positive of the timeline ,what about Dewi Morris??🤔
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
@@Tony-gl8nd maybe more of a “modern” list - should do a “legends” vid soon
@RobSmall-c8d5 ай бұрын
It’s always safe to pick most of the World Cup winning side. Manu had two great seasons and since then has rested on his reputation I think this team is unimaginative we did play rugby before this century
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
All have an opinion buddy! This is my ultimate team! When manu was at his peak he was unstoppable - wish he hadn’t been so hampered with injury! What’s your XV? 🤔
@keithrichardsom18985 ай бұрын
I think Jeff Probyn was an awesome tighthead vastly underrated he would get my nod at tighthead
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Ooh yeah quality shout!!!
@simonwatkins87545 ай бұрын
As a ardent Welshman cannot believe you haven’t picked Richard Hill(England’s best ever 6 and 7) or Dean Richard’s ,would both make my best ever world 15
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Quite a lot of research went into this one! Hill was on my first draft - hard to get everyone in! Some had to miss out 🥲I took Lawes over Hill - I just think Lawes careers for England has been sublime and slightly underrated! But I would happily take either 💪🏻
@stevelee49525 ай бұрын
I'm English and agree. Not sure how Cohen got in?
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
He slipped in there - tbh Englands list of wingers hardly blew me away - not an easy position to definitively select 2 players 👀
@davidduncan68892 ай бұрын
Rugby was played prior to the 21st century, although you wouldn’t know it watching and listening to this!
@Frank.OKeeffeАй бұрын
Australia 1. Enrique “Topo” Rodriguez 2. Phil Kearns 3. Ewen McKenzie 4. Rob Heming 5. John Eales 6. Willie Ofahengaue 7. George Smith 8. Mark Loane 9. Ken Catchpole 10. Mark Ella 11. David Campese 12. Tim Horan 13. Cyril Towers 14. Joe Roff 15. Matt Burke
@peterwhiteman21225 ай бұрын
"The most legendary figures to ever don the rose" - in the last 20 years...
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
A few of them played in the 90’s…the thing is to compare to “legends” of the game is very difficult…there would need to be 2 lists - “Professional Era” and “Legends”
@rjworldsportsnews5 ай бұрын
Robinson broke the cheat code - he’s was probably an even better rugby league player - to do it to the level he did in both codes was incredible and he was also the first rugby player I believe along with Wendell Sailor from Australia to play in a World Cup Final in both codes … (Jason Robinson 1995 RL World Cup final lost to Australia, 2003 RU WC final beat Australia & Wendell Sailor 2000 RL World Cup beat NZ, 2003 RU World Cup final lost to England)
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
What a player! Have England had a player similar to him since? Watson? May? Arrundell?
@mattjones33615 ай бұрын
Hill and guscott are huge omissions! You could argue for underwood and may also.
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Yeah was really hard to do this one! Was in two minds on most positions…Hill could be a blunder leaving him out - he was on my first draft 😆 You can’t win em all 🥲 It’s hard to do these lists - I go through so many combinations and then second guess it!
@mattjones33615 ай бұрын
@rugbybuzz yeh to be fair they're impossible, the best players don't always make the best teams, I like lawes in there, Johnson itoje and lawes is winning line out ball for sure. I'd probably go daws, Wilkinson,manu,guscott, may. But it is nearly impossible. Be interesting to do all the home nations and compare them.
@andrewmarsh87625 ай бұрын
Richard Hill for Lawes in the back row, Guscott for Greenwood in the centre, Robinson at wing
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Great shouts! Guscott was on my first draft!
@Geoff-u6l5 ай бұрын
Probyn and Hill ,two world class players must start.
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Ah yes, Hill was on my first draft and now thinking he should’ve made my cut 🥲 You can’t win em all! Probyn is a good shout - he was a tighthead so over Vickery? 🧐
@ParagonBlack5 ай бұрын
Would have to put In Rory underwood and Johnny May on the wings
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Oooh May great shout! Watson also tough to miss out - I wish he hadn’t been so hampered with injuries 🥲
@ParagonBlack5 ай бұрын
there is an arguement to put Farrel in at centre position...I'm not a big fan of his, but cant deny he is a great player...just got a bad attitude that ruins his rep
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
@@ParagonBlack Dallaglio did an all time XV and had Farrell as his fly half 👀 I hope he does well at Racing this season - I’ve always been a fan of his!
@ParagonBlack5 ай бұрын
@@rugbybuzz Got to have Wilkie at 10. If he hadn't had injuries at that car crash, I think his international career would have outshone Dan Carter
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
@@ParagonBlack Agree mate! The drop goal alone has gifted so many English fans eternal happiness 😁
@bryanlow23055 ай бұрын
Jeremy Guscott,, David Duckham, Rory Underwood, Mike Catt (great utility player), Dean Richards (without the fake blood), controversial picks: off the bench Stuart Barnes, Dan Lugar, motormouth Austin Healey
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
“Motormouth” 😂 Quality commentator and pundit!
@bryanlow23055 ай бұрын
@@rugbybuzz very true!
@Frank.OKeeffeАй бұрын
1. Fran Cotton 2. Peter Wheeler 3. Phil Vickery 4. Martin Johnson 5. Maro Itoje 6. Richard Hill 7. Peter Winterbottom 8. Lawrence Dallaglio 9. Dickie Jeeps 10. Jonny Wilkinson 11. David Duckham 12. Will Greenwood 13. Jeff Butterfield 14. Rory Underwood 15. Jason Robinson
@jonnybaynham16895 ай бұрын
Richard Hill possibly the best england player ever, has to be in there. Would put him at 7 over Back. Personally while Cohen and Lewsey had great years leading up to 03 their post 03 international careers werent remarkable. I think Anthony Watson should feature after playing well in 2015 and particularly 2019, as well as being a standout Lion in 2017. Jonny May was also one of the best wingers in the world in 2019-20
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Great shouts! Gosh I wish Watson wasn’t hampered so much with injury - such a talent! Just my dream team mate 💪🏻 What’s your full XV?
@alankicks7885 ай бұрын
Any best England Team of any era would have to include Richard Hill.
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Tough to leave him out - he was on my first draft…😢
Great team 💪🏻 Is Lawes underrated do you think? England miss him a bit in the back row currently - such an enforcer!
@mrb13805 ай бұрын
Having Lawes is fair enough, but Hill has to be there which means Back or Dallaglio subbed. Thomson in for George, Underwood in for Cohen and that's my team Also I presume you are picking the rampaging version of Tuilagi not the crocked one. 😊
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Haha oh yes the bulldozing Manu of course 😂 Such a shame he’s been so hampered with injury - so much more potential 😢 Yeah Hill was on my first draft in for Back!
@857noel2 ай бұрын
Fran Cotton,Peter Wheeler,Richard Hill,Rory Underwood and Jeremy Guscott should be included
@MrAnamchara5 ай бұрын
I would have put Andrew Sheridan in at tighthead for Leonard , Hill for Lawes and Rory Underwood for Lewsey but this list is very good and well thought out. I think Sheridan is the most destructive scrummager England have ever had and Hill was an out and out 6. He didn’t play in the second row. I want specialist players at their best in my team .
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Great shouts!!!
@itwoznotme5 ай бұрын
ya beat me to it. i had the same changes, but would probably keep lawes in over back. sheridan was an animal, but in a very good way.
@apb34405 ай бұрын
Looking at this team it’s really hard to believe Rugby actually existed before 1995.
@MrAnamchara5 ай бұрын
@@apb3440 Naturally most of the best players are going to be from the professional era due to better diet and training . I suppose you could imagine how good Gareth Edwards etc could have been if the they played after 1995 but they didn’t . We can only go on what we have seen .
@apb34405 ай бұрын
@@MrAnamchara Bigger and fitter doesn’t necessarily equate to better rugby. It just means more players who can only play an hour before being replaced. The skill levels have reduced massively since professionalism. I’d rather watch a winger like David Duckham than some of the 16 stone plus beasts that have taken over.
@robertshears83855 ай бұрын
There are players already mentioned that deserve possible places in the starting 15, think how good the squad would be with them in reserve. I realise this team is composed of players at their peaks and would put my hand in my wallet to bet on them beating any nation's current team.
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
@@robertshears8385 Oosh bold statement 💪🏻 Pretty tough to choose the starting XV! I’m working on an all time world XV currently - that’s even harder 😂
@martindavey54775 ай бұрын
Maybe back this up with a pre-2000 best XV. Different era, different game, so would be interesting.
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
True - there’s some pre-2000 players in here! A different sport in a way…it’s come a long way!
@billparry70585 ай бұрын
Underwood is still England' s leading try score in the days of half the games and a 10 man game. He needs to be in imo as does Richard Hill the only player Woodward never dropped.
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Yeah Hill was on my first draft - tough to leave out! But it’s just my list - what’s your XV? 😎🤔
@Nonamegeniusx5 ай бұрын
Oooooosh! Gusgott missed out! Glad Lawes is in the team - what a player!!!
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Yeah a few quality players had to miss out!
@mrb25125 ай бұрын
No guscott unbelievable he would be the best centre in world rugby today
@Nonamegeniusx5 ай бұрын
@@mrb2512 woah that’s a bold shout!
@MontytheScarlet5 ай бұрын
No Brian Moore or David Duckham. Wow
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Tough to leave them out! Had a few drafts with this one - Moore was on my first draft 🥲
@Tony-gl8nd5 ай бұрын
@@MontytheScarlet Brian Moore the English bulldog 100% respect for that man.🙂👌👏😠
Ooosh 💪🏻 A lot of overlap in the XV! Nowell on the bench - love that! He’s beefed up a bit recently playing for La Rochelle in the centre 💪🏻 Farrell could easily start too - such an underrated player due to his “divisive” nature 🤔
@chriswright50505 ай бұрын
Love Courtney but no Richard Hill!!!!!
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Yeah Hill was on my first draft! A controversial one maybe 🤔
@NickOpenshaw-o6t3 ай бұрын
For sure Richard Hill
@Houseizrockin5 ай бұрын
Just don’t know how you can include any current players. Greatness is retrospective and relative. No current player has left a legacy yet
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Hmm interesting take…Manu for example he had a better 2 years than any other centre for England imo - just two years yes but those 2 years were incredible…for me that’s a legacy enough in that position…he just made the most impact imo! You don’t think Courtney Lawes has left a legacy? 🧐 It’s just my personal ultimate team! What’s your best XV?
@Houseizrockin5 ай бұрын
I think you have to take a look back to now they have done their bit and then assess their contribution it in context if others. I take your point on Manu but I guess it comes down to criteria that you are defining as great - consistency, time, performance, appearances etc….
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
@@Houseizrockin just my gut on who I think is the best ever XV! Pretty hard to do as I could easily create 3 awesome XV’s 😂
@marilyncatterall40211 күн бұрын
Players I'd choose that you didn't :- (2) Peter Wheeler, (3) Fran Cotton, (6) Richard Hill, (7) Peter Winterbottom, (11) Rory Underwood, (13) Jeremy Guscott, (14) David Duckham ........ Obviously Guscott would wear 12 and Greenwood would wear 13, because of Guscott's superstition over the #13
@Tony-gl8nd5 ай бұрын
Mike Cart is player I love watching except when he's playing against Wales.😊😊😊
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Haha 😛
@Maddocio3 күн бұрын
Rugby Union did exist before 2000 you know
@MrC-c9q2 ай бұрын
Richard Hill top player, he could have been AN ALL BLACK he was so good.
@interestedbystander1965 ай бұрын
Hmmm, picking Greenwood at 12 feels wrong. I don't recall him playing 12 at all. Every one of your clips shows him at outside centre as well. He was a 13, and a brilliant one at that!
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
12/13 I had to interchange a bit here - I had to fit Tuilagi at 13 so Greenwood slotted in at 12, but true he played most games at 13…I wanted both of these guys as my centres 💪🏻
@jonnybaynham16895 ай бұрын
Greenwood basically was the inside centre with a 13 jersey while Tindall played on the outside. So the dynamic with Manu would be similar
@garywhitehead31655 ай бұрын
Obviously never watched england before 2003! Underwood is our record try scorer, Guscott was class and contributed massively on 3 lions tours. Very short sighted selection. Oh, and no hill, you nuts?
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
My eye sight is very good actually! A lot of research went into this vid - like all my vids…at the end of the day just my list buddy - who’s in your XV?
@big-muff-pi67232 ай бұрын
Lawes ahead of Hill at blind-side has to be a joke, right?
@hbalvarezАй бұрын
And where is Jeremy Guscott?
@DavidSechet-k9i5 ай бұрын
Missed richard hill cette guscott
@martinhowell74735 ай бұрын
You will not see me on the next one as you don't k ow what you're talking about. Underwood for Coen, Lewsey far better fullback, Robin son far more effe time on the wing (far more dangerous receiver close to the gain line). Have you not heard of Richard Hill (and I mean both of them, 6 & 9), Guscott at 13, Manu at 12. Andrew Sheridan, Peter Winterbottom, Peter Wheeler.
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Haha ok mate you don’t have to watch! We all have an opinion! This was based on a lot of research and some top tier pundits lists too - so do they not know what they’re talking about? 😂
@crispybug5 ай бұрын
Sorry, but there is no way that Richard Hill can miss out, simply the best back row forward England have ever had! Alongside Martin Johnson he is only England player who is included in all time world XV
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
How do you mean the only player that’s included? All have an opinion buddy 💪🏻 this was just my dream team 🔥
@crispybug5 ай бұрын
@@rugbybuzz I meant to say a world XV!
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Ooh both in an all time world XV? I’m working on this video currently - a few weeks until it’s out!
@StewartNeilands5 ай бұрын
Jason Robinson was the best, and neither of his parents were actually English. His mother is actually SCOTTISH, and his father is JAMAICAN!!!
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Yet he’s one of England’s greats…he donned the rose for years and was magical! ✨
@Richard-c6u1i2 ай бұрын
First names on an All-Time England sheet would be Richard Hill and Duckham. Cotton, Gusgot, Underwood are certainties too But that would be recognising there was a rugby world more than 25. Years ago. Come on lads ! Must do better.. a lot better.
@benstone65715 ай бұрын
Stopped watching after no hill
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Stopped watching? Bit harsh 😂
@user-pk9qj1tx7v5 ай бұрын
Cunningham south mist out???
@clementconstant15155 ай бұрын
are u alright ?
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
This is an all time team matey! Cunningham South might make the team in 10years 🤔
@MrAnamchara5 ай бұрын
CCS had yet to make his mark. He has the potential to replace Dallaglio on this list if he continues to fulfill his potential
@TheBigears15 ай бұрын
Sheridan, Dooley, Hill, Richards, Hill, so many top players you have missed out.
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
Lots of players had to miss out! I can’t get them all in 🥲
@DavidSechet-k9i5 ай бұрын
Catt
@hmhaines5 ай бұрын
Anyone saying Guscott forgets how overated the man was… couldn’t tackle to save a life
@rugbybuzz5 ай бұрын
👀 He was on my first draft but yeah his defence let him down a little…still a great player!