XP DEUS II VS NOKTA LEGEND VS MINELAB EQUINOX 800, ***BIG TEST***

THE BIG TEST THAT YOU HAVE ALL ASKED FOR.... THE RESULTS ARE IMPRESSIVE BUT WHATS YOUR THOUGHTS ???? LET ME KNOW FOLKS..

[@trolltaker]

These single target tests are great, but what is just as important to me, if not more so, is how well I can pick out the sound of a good target in a field full of other targets. In real life, that is what matters. Seldom are you detecting nice, clean, quiet earth when you suddenly happen to hear a nice clear beep interupting the silence. More often, it is "squeek, squack, beep, blip, scratch, bing and squeek". Which one was the coin?

[@tonyhynes1938]

That comes with experience and knowing your machine

[@trolltaker]

@@tonyhynes1938 Sorry, did I sound like a n00b?

[@papermaker2726]

@@tonyhynes1938 which machine do you recommend?

[@billbarry2984]

The legend is much better now in trashy sites with the new adjustable iron bias.

[@glaflamme]

Love the test and the channel. I own the deus 1, deus 2 and the Equinox. I pretty much don’t use any other detectors than the D2 now, i’m in love with it. I’ve pulled out so much stuff in areas I have scrutinized deeply with the other instruments. Fast and reliable. I keep the control box in my belt bag because I never look at the screen. First roll of metal detecting, if you get a two-way repeatable nonferrous signal, let your shovel do the discrimination. Yesterday I left the control box in the truck and I went with just the headphones. I just need to get used to the menu system. That note does look like a great instrument as well. Technology is a hell of a thing! I hate that you had to use so much good metal detecting time to do that test but I’m glad you did. Great video!

[@notistclasher3124]

Hello my friend. I have a question Did you not have a decrease in depth or quality when you used the headphones instead of the main part? Was everything good?

[@skautashobbychannel43]

Great depth test, i think the winner is the Deus2, but the legend is a very good detector for that price, the build quality, and performance and of course the price, is much lower than the other two detectors. Great video🙂👍

[@norseman1137]

Blown away by legend ... Great tone... Great simplicity.... Great price ... It sounded way clearer than Deus to ny ears...14" wow

[@robertthompson9554]

Thank you for an un-biased test. This test tells me that all of the involved detectors are a great machine. Based on bang for the buck, I would have to vote in the Legend. A very comparable machine. I was impressed by all of the detectors shown. Thanks again..

[@englandshistory]

Yeah it wasnt a lets bash all other machines and make one look good… i just wanted to show how they all compare.. non biased test 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@RadioActiveDonats]

I know you want to justify the money you paid for the Deus but definitely the winner is the legend if you ask me...

[@Prince-nt4dc]

You mist part of this video🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@papermaker2726]

@@Prince-nt4dc how so? What he miss ?

[@Prince-nt4dc]

@@papermaker2726 i think deus 2 is the winner

[@lancemcilwainoutcastmetald5398]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@davemitchell6331]

The deus is another class to be fair

[@lewis1141951]

I didn't really see that much of an advantage for the D2. Especially at twice the price ! The D2 gold mode was the only difference. But you didn't put the Legend in gold mode to compare.

[@dwb4462]

Best honest comparison video I have ever watched..👍

[@beachdetectingireland3984]

One of the best tests I've seen so far , enjoyed that .

[@chrisleigh777]

Love the test buddy all good detectors there. Interesting that chap did well with his Bulgarian detector I have a Turkish via gold detector and Bulgarian Nexus both with 6 inch coils that can hit silver and gold at that depth and my via gold can even tell me the metal which is a total bonus. It cost me 800 posted to UK and it is color LCD hope I can show you guys at some point it's so powerful. Kinda like the Aka Signum in power but it can beat the signum with the same sized coils. So it's worth looking sometimes outside of the mainstream advertising of detectors and look further afield to get something special. :) Happy hunting guys awesome video

[@papermaker2726]

Which detector do you recommend? Mainstream and outside the mainstream advertisers

[@TFA-01]

Interesting for sure. I know it's always a subjective test. I personally think the deus is great, the minelab while questionable on build quality, is an amazing machine. All that said. I now have a simplex (coming from a Deus) and it's amazing for its price range, and that Nokta legend is a massive step ahead, and the thing to take away, is the fact that the legend is soo much cheaper.

[@hindolian]

It will be interesting to see the machines again in 6 months or so when they are all as near perfect in terms of software updates, with the legend being a few months behind deus as to when it went to market.

[@greenmtn64]

Really good test. Thanks to to you putting that together!

[@shawncaldwell593]

Thanks for the video I just got the legend haven’t had a chance to really use it yet

[@AllMetalDetecting]

Hello Sid, very nice depth competition between top machines. I love very deep targets tests: did more similar tests with D2, program 6 but different coin, 50 euro cent, 24mm diameter copper coin. D2 could detect it in the bottom of a 20 inch hole. Bye for now Sid!

[@tunahan48]

Did you change anything in program 6?

[@AllMetalDetecting]

@@tunahan48 sensitivity 98, reactivity 1 Audio Response 6, ground stabilizer 1..

[@rustymeadows3482]

The test is in the field. Get the one you want... Use it.... Get to know it.... Things will work out..

[@wgrillojr]

Still watching so it might happen but for your last test you should wet the soil and see what differences from dry soil they have, especially in depth.

[@samwebb2516]

Good to see the legend holding its own with the nox on this test. That was Nokta’s aim. It’s far better built and a fair bit cheaper. The deus should be better for the price you pay. Good video Sid.

[@SandBoy408]

Except for the iron on 14 inches target....

[@detecting-guru9955]

@@SandBoy408 that was only in park mode which isn't deepest mode ...plus all deep targets coming in quiet at 11 is worth a look as these are often good targets deep....whilst a loud positive 11 will be Coke more than likely

[@SandBoy408]

@@detecting-guru9955 Think there are some problems with iron. I thought they implemented a sort of iron bias, but there is only a "ferrometer" that shows you the amount of iron. But multifrequency, for nature, avoids loss of signal in relation with the depth. So, on Minelab multifrequency machine (bbs, fbs, multiiq) you will never see negative numbers on deep non ferrous target (except negative number of mineralisation). The Simplex+ hits iron on non ferrous targets too. I´ve seen with my eyes.

[@itsallfabrication]

Great test Sid, but I would never have got that coin with any of those machines, as I wouldn't be running them that open. But really appreciate you showing us the capabilities of each machine. Thanks.

[@jomon723]

Nice Test .....Back in the day all I had was a depth meter....Got a lot of info from that, talking early 80's

[@jb4496]

I love your channel and the information you share with us. thanks so much

[@anthonyharrison9280]

Still think nox. . Legend good deus 11 good but nox well I love my minelab. Bias definitely. 😂

[@kilner79]

Need more videos like this really enjoyed this content

[@metaldetectingqueensland1233]

Probably the best video I've seen out there, nice one Sid

[@jamesnightingale9782]

Nice test Sid..I’ve just got a deus 2 this week. Not been out yet. Still working out what’s going on in that box. And syncing it to my Brain.,Not too hard there plenty of room in there to store some more info..I’ve come over from the Nox so it’s a little bit different. But not too bad..but I must say my Nox does get em out deep.. Great vids mate..nice n truthful no bull. Regards Jim

[@joeoutdoors2299]

Nice video, I'm still undecided and leaning towards the Deus 2 lite to keep the cost down, would like to hear how the Rutus Versa would compare, hearing good things about it but so little info available it feels like a gamble.

[@jameslaker4000]

Cheers Sid great video as always and just what i was looking for. I almost bought the Deus 2 few weeks ago but held off as wanted to see some decent comparison videos with the Legend. I've already got the Orx and Simplex so been wondering which route to upgrade and even though it looks like Deus is best its twice the price but doesnt look like twice the performance of the Legend. Also to be honest i really was hoping the Legend wouldnt pick up that at 18" as i really dont want to be digging that deep all day 😄 Will be ordering the Legend as soon as in stock hopefully this week. Thanks again.

[@jack125husky]

Hi mate I have the orx ,and had the simplex ,but sold it to buy the legend ,I have a Roman villa site I have hammered to death with the orx ,to a point it sadly dried up ,due to farmer direct drilling ,took my legend on it last week had 8 Roman coins in 2.5 hours 👍hope this helps

[@atsavageriver]

Two thumbs up for this vid. Very interesting.

[@MetaLDeteCtorinDoneSsia]

Thanks for sharing buddy...🙏🥰🤝🇮🇩

[@paulblanton1793]

I’ve hunted with the equinox for hundreds of hours and the deus1 for hundreds of hours also. We mostly do relic hunting and iron loaded home sites from the 17 and 1800s. Where are the XP deus shines is in the iron! The XP deus 2 is on another level in this situation. There are a lot of coins and old buttons being missed in the iron by the legend, simplex and even the equinox. However they are great machines for the cost until someone can afford to get the best. nice video👌🏼

[@englandshistory]

Since v6 the deus ii is also missing targets as the low conductor signals are terribly gargled and mixed signals… hopefully v7 has fixed this

[@iceviking3]

Fantastic comparison. Try the legend again with v107 the field mode depth much improved im hitting a small 14 k gold ring 16 ins

[@jack125husky]

Very interesting Sid , very pleased with my legend so far 👍

[@AllMetalJohn]

Hey, Sid. Been looking at getting The Legend and there has been some hype that Gold is coming up at 10 or 11 and being discriminated out by some pre-sets. So a request if I may. Next time you do a test on the Legend can you go over some gold (you must have loads lying around :)) and see where it coms in at and if these rumours are true. Keep up the great work and looking forward to your next video. The hand made collectors box is something else - wow! Cheers pal.

[@englandshistory]

Same as the nox and deus…. Some gold will fall in the coke range… thats why when going for smaller gold you have to dig the low numbers

[@TheHUhelps]

Great video mate. I'm happy to say that I just got a Deus II a few days ago. I haven't had a chance to try it out yet but soon, very soon. 😃

[@davidevans7086]

Get in there legend 😜👊🏾 thanks sid bro 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@111proactive]

Great test 👍,hi digger from Ukraine.

[@Windsurfingaddict]

Phew, glad you spotted the chap with the older machine that made out it could hit that deep 17-18 inch target that was Falsing on the ground or everyone would have been off the the shops to buy one 🤣🤣 Sid’s response No, moving on 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍

[@IDetectEstDig]

Super!!! Thanks.

[@mobiusmax6539]

And remember that’s with the 9” coil.👍

[@treasurehunteruk8080]

The ledgend is far the most superior machine 👏

[@hptcollete1957]

Fantastic video Sid. Very, very interesting.

[@Lookin4Things]

Also at that almost 3 times the price is its wireless and alot more fine tuning. legend vs deus2

[@GaryandtheGooseDetecting]

Deus 2 with a 9" coil wow , what it do with the 11" ?

[@detecting-guru9955]

I was wondering why u never tried the legend in gold mode...it's crazy deep in that mode ..the legend is standing up to all the competition I do know that 👍🏻iv used it quite a bit now and it's very very good and built like a tank 💪🏻

[@ArTeCh777]

And f heavy, and that’s not good at all

[@mimimi_everywhere]

@@ArTeCh777 compared to older detectors (except XP's) it's not that heavy. I'm swinging both machines (deus II & legend) and I don't find it's too heavy at all

[@ArTeCh777]

@@mimimi_everywhere it’s heavier than nokta makro , and nokta makro it is heavy for me in long usage, tank vs light compact MF Deus 2? No comparison for me, worth twice price

[@papermaker2726]

@@mimimi_everywhere which one do you recommend?

[@papermaker2726]

@@ArTeCh777 wait so which machine do you recommend?

[@cameraandcountryside4089]

After watching this I'd say the the Deus 2 is never £600 more better than the legend I know the Deus was hitting the the target a bit better at the end but that to me has shown the legend to be holding its own with a machine that cost twice as much. And dosnt the deeper modes on the dues drain the battery out more on the Deus 2 so Less digging time than the legend if used in the deeps modes. Great Vid Sid 👍

[@paulblanton1793]

A find of a lifetime could be hiding in those iron patches where old home sites or structures have deteriorated over the last several hundred years. The XP deus blows all other detectors away in this category. It’s also lighter, very quiet on the salt beaches, completely waterproof proof up to 60 Ft, all of that is worth paying twice the price for me.

[@cameraandcountryside4089]

@@paulblanton1793 you still got to walk over it to find it and the Deus isn't that far better than the legend or Nox yes it's lighter and as from waterproof you still got have the arena thing for it to work under water fair anough if you use a Deus 2 under water it maybe worth you spending that much money. But let's be honest most people who buy the Deus 2 or any water proof detector will never get the coil wet never mind go diving with it basic fact is the Deus 2 isn't that much better than the legend or Nox and for the price of the dues 2 you can buy a legend and a Nox 600 the Nox is a excellent machine in the beach the legend is to and going to be even better with a new update that's coming out for it so how can you say it's worth paying the extra for basically a detector that is lighter that's not worth paying £600 more to me

[@detecting-guru9955]

Legend is defo better than nox just in terms of overall stability and it's better built and more user friendly.just as deep and just as fast.. the deus 2 is just better audio options really for extra £730

[@detecting-guru9955]

@@christianh7863 only by a few grams certainly nothing noticable especially for the upgrade

[@jeffhunter9311]

@@christianh7863 I have a Nox & The Legend The reason I bought the Legend I had so many issues with my Nox Leakage and coil issues obviously. I have no update issues With my Legend Right out of the Box I found a early 1800 Seated coin on a previous permission I pounded relentlessly with the Nox The crazy part is the legend is just starting their software updates a lot of exciting stuff! Good day mate keep digging

[@Dalboy.]

Yet again Sid shows the true results 👍🏻

[@papermaker2726]

Which are ?

[@Dalboy.]

@@papermaker2726 no bullshit

[@TheJonesy555]

Interesting. The D2 is so deep in relic mode. Deep on the beach as well.

[@englandshistory]

Relic and gold modes are deep, relic seems to give a better id on higher conductors and gold better on low conductors

[@timphelps1591]

I want to know what that metal detector was

[@kevinsutton6512]

awesome comparisons, silly question was that a custom goldfield program or stock on the d2 ? very surprised relic didn't do better. keep the good work up

[@jeremycornishjc]

Checo's homebrew machine is Awsome for the price mind

[@oldplucker1]

Hi Sid, Maybe the Nox could do with an update too? The EMI could be smoothed without affecting recovery for a start. But the Nox shines in other areas and most finds are in the top 8 inches in ploughed. But digging deep takes time. Also is the D2 reacting to disturbed soil. You need to dig a few empty holes and refill to test this.

[@user-ed6pd7oo7n]

Легенда с топовыми приборами отличная машина.Спасибо за тест.

[@gjyoung67]

Keep in mind that 18” deep coin is 2x the depth of the coil width, that is insane.

[@mpsstead7528]

Hi, love the video, did you find out the make of the Bulgarian detector that the bloke smashed the target with please.?

[@englandshistory]

It was just a frankentector that his mate made in his garage

[@slipchuck1]

What shovel are you using and were can u buy it

[@englandshistory]

Black ada stainless spartan

[@Treeboyltd]

I really enjoyed the video, helped me make up my mind on the deus 2.

[@adamgreenwood1870]

Should have try the Nox with the horse shoe on , on the deepest target!

[@ZioAdolf75]

try park2 and Equinox will win, I write from Italy and I use park2 it is the deepest even on mineralized soils, you in the UK have little or no mineralized soils and use field, you should use park .

[@relicreclaimers7436]

Please use the 11" deus coil when doing a comparison size does matter!! not a fair test!

[@vonborgestad]

Try the Legend in gold mode, tweaking the threshold level will give a banging signal at 18”

[@billbarry2984]

I'd like you to try that test with the LG 30 9X12 coil on the Legend, I bet it would do even better!! 😊

[@rogerclaiborne6815]

I suspect the Deus II may be using pulse induction in relic/gold modes, LOL. Kind of has a PI style set up to it's coil so maybe that's their secret. Good idea to have dual VLF and PI capabilities in a unit for different situations.

[@rogerclaiborne6815]

Would explain the double pricedness as well, LOL. You're secretly getting two types of detectors in one unit.

[@norseman1137]

I've watched this a few times now and at 17" if you take out the settings that chirp all over the place. And if you are just using field mode not relic etc ... The only one I'd have dug was the Legend .. . I think I'd walk over it with D2 unless in relic gold...and I'd walk over it with nox

[@geryfreezone5615]

9" Deus coil vs 11" (Nox and Legend) ........? it is not fair test

[@norseman1137]

What was firmware version on Legend?

[@Ghost-hp4jc]

Not arsed about ultimate depth , I’d go for a cheaper p.I if I was . Stable I.d and separation at the 10 inch mark 👍🏻

[@englandshistory]

Yeah most finds will be in top 6” mainly…. Im gonna do another test soon with targets mixed with minerals and iron

[@Ghost-hp4jc]

@@englandshistory personally I think prog 2 sensitive is the goto hammered programme for us in the uk matey . Yes it’s programmed to use the higher range of frequencies so maybe a little depth would be compromised, but maybe reducing reactivity to 2 may overcome this . We’ll see 👍🏻

[@cliveclynick4667]

great job, very even handed--thanks!

[@botelhocar8644]

Great video, what was that detector? Minute 14?

[@A-view-from-above]

I know this is an old video but how does the newer firmware updates compare to this depth test for the legend as I am on 1.15 and struggle to hit a target below 6 inches in any mode including Dt or beast mode

[@user-wk6yv5vt6k]

Привет 👋! Как Легенда по глубине?

[@Mr.Technical77]

It’s still impressive, what you get for $635 these days. I opted for the edge with Deus 2, but that Legend isn’t too far behind and I paid dearly for that edge. If I didn’t already have a Nox as well, I’d strongly consider the Legend as my backup to Deus 2.

[@englandshistory]

They have done really well aint they… a lot of bang for ya bucks

[@vladpom4674]

E-Trac would have no problem finding that..

[@exploracionesconluis102]

and ctx

[@Prince-nt4dc]

Е trakc 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and ctx 🤣🤣🤣i,m coming🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jimbmaldon]

You once did some testing on the Rutus Alter 71 Syd. How about a test on the new Multi-frequency Atrex???? Put it up against any of these.

[@englandshistory]

I have just got the atrex so will be doing some vids soon

[@stevenelliott1121]

That gold mode is crazy 🥰👌

[@englandshistory]

Yeah gold and relic are deffo beast modes… just wish xp would make the iron tone higher up the tid scale to say from -6.4 to 8

[@stevenelliott1121]

Hopefully in future updates 🤞

[@partoftheabsoluteone4960]

At a guess, how do you think the Quest Q60 would perform alongside these three machines? I am impressed with the Q30+ atm, fast and pretty deep too. Thanks for this video! Very useful and interesting.

[@lesrice2482]

I would like to see you ground balance on camera for these tests.

[@kevinwelsh9572]

yep deus ll pipped it but all good machines be happy with any of them

[@josephhutchings3571]

Sid can you please tell us what that detector the bloke was using, the one who said deus 3.

[@Prince-nt4dc]

this is me. the machine is made in Bulgaria in a garage. make them my best friend. he didn't do much. only 5 machines are and 3 are mine. now he makes me one at 14kh will be here next month

[@hawkinsdaniel7144]

Good vid, but next time get a tape measure guys, instead of "That must be about 16"!!

[@DIRTBROSDETECTING]

Enjoyed that mate thanks👍 would’ve been interesting to see the other machines on gold mode and love my d2 but miss my nox. Interesting that the d2 always gets the targets all the way round the hole and my nox used to iron sound or miss. Shame xp can’t do something with full tones on the d2 that will bang those sweet hammered tones past 8” as below that full tones is hard work whereas the nox stops you in your tracks. Can’t wait for the next vid😊

[@trolltaker]

It would be nice to know what the ground readings were

[@andrewchant7862]

Not sure if it's been asked but what version of the legend were you running ?

[@mementalmori67]

Morning sid great vid as usual, just a quick question who do use to identify your finds can't seem to get a response from my local F L O

[@englandshistory]

Google or facebook groups

[@tonyhynes1938]

You've just made my life more difficult tbh 😂

[@TeamLynchBMD]

Excellent test👋👍

[@rolandgallone6513]

Shocked that modern detectors haven’t really progressed in the last 40 years

[@AndrewBaines]

I metal detect on beaches, and in the sea, I have the nox currently but thinking of moving to the D2 to combine scuba diving and detecting. which do you think its the best one for this? Ive been trying the Nokta Pulse DIve as im in the sea most of the time, found 3 gold rings in 3 days recently.

[@englandshistory]

Depends on water depth!!? i believe the deus ii is able to go to greater depths than the 800…. Deus ii is capable of 20 meters and nox only 3 meters

[@AndrewBaines]

@@englandshistory around 5-10 metres but maybe deeper in future , maybe best keep the nox for the and add the Deus 2 and have 2 detectors not sure ..... I saw a detectororist on the beach with a Deus 2 and approached him to have a chat, he let me try it out and it's so much lighter !!

[@englandshistory]

@@AndrewBaines yeah deus 2 is a sexy light weight machine

[@kevinwelsh9572]

just came to me (fodds) gold mode is crazy good. ever tried the gold mode on the nox ?? I've never tried it on mine, got any program settings for it sid ?

[@englandshistory]

Main adjustments are you have to up the IAR 3 or above, then play with reactivity and sens

[@5starplumbingservices777]

Do you recommend the Equinox800, Vanquish 540 or the Nokta Simplex, Nokta legend, or Deus 2 for beach

[@englandshistory]

To be honest i very rarely do beaches so probs not the best person to ask, but from what ive been seeing you cant go wrong with either equinox 800, legend or deus 2

[@scotthands4396]

As a nox user I can honestly say depth tests are a waste of time, it's not genuine detecting conditions or even how you would detect in a field, I have seen blistool out deep a deus and a ctx on a depth test but you won't be running out going to get one, as for the tech, the minelab is multi frequency and I'm telling you there are no dodgy signals on the nox but there will be on the deus, I guarantee people will be digging deep iron thinking it's a good signal, I know serious nox users who have sold there deus there all good machines but In the field when you have no idea where the targets are you'll See the nox out perform both

[@nikokallio8650]

Is Deus 2 really top top machine or what more i will get from those machines which cost 2000-5000 euroes. I understand that Minelab 7000 will give much greater gold searching capabilities but for everything else is Deus 2 nearly top of top what comes to capability to detect any metal. How much better Deus 2 is compared to 300 euro Bounty hunter quick draw pro? I am mainly getting metal with its 7kherz radar.

[@LordXaoo]

Hi. What You recommend Gold search on swamp and forest

[@thebritishperspective7674]

I personally thought the Legend won the test. You did not have to fiddle with any knobs. the others had to have changes made and were set high , but i do agree that the relic mode on the Deus was insane at the end. But given what i see i would say the Legend is a better all purpose machine. does the Legend have iron bios on it?

[@furionero]

Questo mi sembra uno dei pochissimi test Seri che ho visto. L'altro era di un ragazzo tedesco. La maggior parte sono ridicoli. Grazie.

[@Mark-iu8mr]

Any one ever used a detech relic striker would tell that all those detectors are just mere toys couldn't hold a candle when it comes to raw depth

[@serkancaliskan8286]

Legend 👏👏👏💪

[@hedleyave]

Unfair test ..Deus on the 9" can you do it again when the 13 " coil comes out.. lol!!

[@Dannyobeirnes]

Trouble is the Deus can find all the targets and louder when you know it’s under the coil.

[@englandshistory]

What i got from this test is: all machines performed virtually the same on all tests…. Deus ii had a bit more depth but only when using gold/relic mode… which wouldn’t of got you the target really in real conditions as it was mainly a 00 tid.. which you get with nearly every swing in those modes

[@donaldlee6699]

Do any of those (3) three metal detectors provide the freq./kHz that is being scanned? And, in 'simultaneous'? Likewise, the freq./kHz that is indicated on the pinpointed mode? My research reveals that the White's Spectra V3i is the only metal detector that does. White's has normalized their VDI (Visual Discrimination Indication numbers) Without providing the information what freq./kHz the multifrequency is together with the VDI not being normalized as with White's it will leave the operator only to guess what the freq./kHz is and the target and the operator only to 'guess'? ? ? And the operator will state it is 'chatty' or it is 'inconsistent'? ? ? Any metal detector that does not provide the freq./kHz in multifrequency absolutely has to be chatty? ? ?

[@janmiklas6269]

Legend is best 😊

[@user-lq2bs3vl1e]

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