Enlisted vs Officer Pay Gap | Why Officer's Get Paid So Much More

[@standinawe8865]

General: "What's your rank soldier?!" Inept Soldier: "I can't tell you Sir!" General: "Why not soldier?!" Inept Soldier: "Because it's Private Sir!"

[@diglis1033]

Stand In Awe good way to get smoked

[@tristonmclaughlin58]

Lmao😂😂😂

[@wojak6793]

Mason Wells lmao

[@robertosanchez6803]

@John Smith yep

[@zoomer5700]

@John Smith STFU boot

[@MS-wb5mf]

The E7 , E9 , Etc are paid for their experience. The 2nd Lt is paid for the responsibility that has been heaped upon them.

[@djmeltdown65]

Wanted you to know I enlisted today because your videos. I was always to nervous to join because of basic etc. Your videos eased my enlistment anxiety. Thanks and keep it up!

[@majorFaulker]

djmeltdown65 which branch?

[@CyberLord]

majorFaulker most likely army because the guy who makes these videos usually is speaking for/about the army

[@Poppy-sc6vk]

How did it go?

[@CristianFlores-mh9lc]

How did it go?

[@Daily_Bassist]

How did it go?

[@davidrodriguez5330]

Thats crazy to think that a captain with 6 years around 28 year old makes equal or more money than 20 years in sergeant major with 38 years of age, wild !

[@charlesboardman8131]

I retired as a Lieutenant Colonel after 24 years of service. There are major differences with responsibilities and accountability between officer and enlisted. Officer duties are highly stressful especially at the higher pay grades of O3 and above. It’s also more admin, management, and leadership than technical skills. Officer selection is also highly competitive with an up or out policy that isn’t in the enlisted ranks. If you don’t make officer promotions at the proper time you must leave the service and anyone who makes it past O4 is in the top 20 percent of their peers. Yes, go officer if you can handle the responsibility and also have the academics required. To get into the field grade ranks you better have a masters degree. I think your web site is great. My dad gave me all your info back in the pre computer age. I remember my starting pay as a 2Lt was $500 a month in 1977. Inflation is crazy.

[@DivePlane13]

I think you just made my decision on officer or enlisted.. it looks like it's easier to stay in for 20 as enlisted. As for staying in as an officer that competitiveness is insane and since theres no guarantee for being able to stay in and retire then why bother?

[@xavier01110]

@@DivePlane13 yeah being an officer is incredibly stressful because of the pressure. My father was lieutenant colonel in the household cavalry and hated the amount of pressure, so I'm gonna enlist and work my way up to warrant officer class 1, which is the highest nco rank in the British army.

[@quasarsavage]

in the last 45 years the calmative inflation rate is 377.1% so 1977 2LT pay was 8,794.80 per yr so abt 41,958.02 today

[@ericg649]

I agree with the responsibility angle, however, when I was in up or out applied to us enlisted folks as well!!! Just a thought

[@josephtotter7484]

In the Airforce you had high year tenure ( up or out) for e4 and up as you did for 03 and up. I was prior enlisted and both had its good, bad, and ugly. As for accountability I saw many an officer blame enlisted to get out of thier own shortcomings or lack of leadership skills or capability. For responsibilities, senior enlisted in the Airforce had plenty. Mad respect for them. Nothing is more funny than a 2lt trying to play rank with a chief . That was one pearl of wisdom I tried to impart to my off the street peers in OTS. don't eff with nco's.

[@mikethemechanic7395]

I remember when I was a E3 and was At my first duty station. All of us enlisted in the barracks were upset because of how we were treated by the officers. We did not understand why they could not hang out with us at all. Also why they made way more money. One weekend my XO was working in his office in our barracks. I asked him why he was working late and on a day off. My xo told me he works another 2-4 hours a night to do paperwork and make plans for the next day etc. Also the fact he was in charge of more people and his responsibility made sense at that point. Before that day I always saw officers go to bed in the field way before us enlisted. I never saw an officer stay late or do anything to show sacrifice. I used to thing they put their pants on the same way. Lol

[@Defender78]

5:58 also it's not just that a 23 year old 2LT has loans, but that same officer may be the same age as a 23 enlistee or even 30-year old E-4. Now when I was in Basic, there were a handful of 22-28 year olds with us who would be entering the Army as an E-1/2/3/4. Its not just the college loan amount, bus also the *effort* of college, that being putting yourself 3-5 years out of the workforce loop to gain life and education experience, that results in being rewarded with higher pay.

[@adamali5885]

I watch these videos even though i know I'm gonna be a marine

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

Naw you'll be a marine for 4-7 years then reenlist as army

[@mrguaranteed]

“Going to” and “being a marine” are two different things. Don’t say you will be something until you are something. I’ve known plenty people to say the same thing but end up in army or another branch. Tips for life don’t dig yourself into a hole. I’m sure matt would agree.

[@adamali5885]

@@mrguaranteed i am going to be a marine no matter what and thats my word

[@westvirg304]

@@adamali5885 prove it.

[@youngblood2997]

@@adamali5885 dont say going to cuz there a lot of things that can happen. You may fail MEPS, you may fail a swim test at boot camp, u may even get injured (very likely) and not be able to finish boot camp and fail. So until you BECOME a marine, dont say you know your gonna be one.

[@havenpersonalcare7968]

Started with the military E1 in 1997 as an Infantryman; within 3 years awarded (EIB, AirAssault, Airborne); push forward to get my degree and transition to officer; recently retired after 25 YOS; can't complain; when you're young get all your adrenaline rush out of your system by joining combat arms; followed by civilian higher education for career advancement. Find a mentor that will guide and direct you in your career (enlisted/officer); and just follow the system; if you fail, try again. All the best to all present/future service members! All is well!

[@hellomynameis2767]

A big reason there is the E vs O pay gap is it is remnant of the days when Officers came from American aristocratic elite in an era when citizens were given positions of power through economic classes and stature. USMAs congressional recommendation letters stemmed from a time when it was “who you rubbed elbows with” rather than academic recommendations. Sandhurst in the UK did away with that platform, now British Enlisted can commission without a degree and is based off of recommendation and merit from their commanders. Once they get recommended they integrate the Officer pipeline and the pay is more neutrally focused.

[@ericpklein99]

You earn the paycheck not just because of the size of the problems you solve, but also because at the end of the day, you’re the one taking the responsibility for the decision made.

[@The_Black_Knight]

This is IMPORTANT for those that wish to enlist and then become an officer later. Under Title 10 law, the Army sections 3911 and 3926 lay out the requirements of a retirement with at least 20 good years (meaning combined calculated service, active and reserve), at least 10 years of which have been service as a commissioned officer. What this means is you CANNOT retire with LESS THAN 10 YEARS as an officer while serving in the military. There is no such thing as "4-6 years provision", as you won't make the cut off and then will have to go beyond 20 years to make up the offset, which can be dangerous during a period of downsizing. Otherwise what happens is a service member reverts to highest obtained enlisted rank for purposes of retirement, which can be devastating for a military pension. You want to make the switch AT MOST between 8-10 active years to remain competitive. There also is an age limit, which varies dependent on the needs of the US Army, which "skunks" certain NCOs (usually E-7s) from switching at all. There was a limited time that the Secretary of Defense allowed a waiver to eight years commissioned service, but this EXPIRED in FY2018 during the drawdown. A minimum of 3 years in grade is required for a FULL pay average retirement pension, and a minimum of 6 acceptable months in grade to retire at that rank. Ultimately, the prior enlisted officer can sometimes be at disadvantage later in comparison to a younger officer mostly due to injury potential, age, and promotion selection if they wait too long to change over.

[@Alejo__]

The Black Knight how much do majors make.

[@markymark1487]

Jesusjuice32 everything from e1-e6 and from o1 to o4 is on the goarmy website

[@rafaelmateodev]

I mean, officers are not paid enough in some cases. One example is Computer Science. Any computer professional starts making 200k these days, and experienced ones half a million at places like Netflix. So the military has to find a way to keep them happy. Whether that is making them feel like they are listened to, or simply giving them a lot of freedom with decent pay. After all, they could be making bank in the civilian world and decided for the military. THAT is the main reason they make more. And to be honest, it should be higher.

[@dougtheeliminator1077]

I enlisted in 1982. That year, the US Military received the biggest pay raise in it's history (14.3%).

[@RichV20]

Keeping up with Inflation. Probably still made less because of inflation that year.

[@quasarsavage]

@@RichV20 wonder what the 2023 inflation adjustor will be lol better be like 8 percent or more bcFFY22 NDAA 2.7% increase sucked

[@xtne.e1100]

Thanks so much for this information. So excited to start my military journey and going to OCS 🙆🏼‍♀️ also, great job on achieving and earning your rank from enlisted to officer. I’m sure it’s extremely inspiring for many people out there.

[@brandonb1681]

My ole man was a Gunny after 12 years. He became an O-1 later and received more pay for his enlisted experience. Retired as an O-3 after 22 years. When I expressed an interest in joining the Army, he really encouraged me to go to college and become an officer. I refused, because I wanted to jump in and serve. I retired as an E-7. I didn't want to go the officer route. He seemed more stressed being an officer. I really enjoyed being an NCO. I trained many a good man and woman as my time as a 91A. I still think that enlisted should receive more pay. Anyway...great vid. Thank you for your service to our great nation.

[@shikhajohn7820]

I have a bachelors degree and my mom and her friend has advised me to make sure I join as officer, nothing less

[@DivePlane13]

Yeah if you already have it, go for it, worst thing that can happen is you don't get selected for ocs. Enlistment will always be there

[@Bigbootiegymbro]

Did you end up joining ? I do have a bachelor degree as well and thinking about joining.

[@sal9523]

Our soldiers need a higher pay they deserve it for sure 👍💪🇺🇸

[@ReveredDead]

The fresh new O-1 is a liability until proven otherwise. The experienced, previous enlisted O-1 is an asset to the military. I say this cause the former enlisted officer will be able to relate to his enlisted soldiers and have respect for them and they for him. He or She will know what they need to get the job done.

[@ruckmarch]

I have been watching your videos for a while. I am leaving to DCC in a month as 1LT. Never looked at this pay. Thanks for your video.

[@whitewolf2767]

officers are paid more because they deserve to.

[@LekkerFacts]

#1 reason for pay gap is market requirements. Some positions could start around the captain rank for direct commission, purely because the salary needs to be closely matched to the civilian market if you want to have quality candidates

[@Karla-ys9qz]

I watch all your videos even though i’m going into the air force 😂 still super helpful 💪🏼🔥

[@TheRuggedWay]

Karla P-T only at certain levels. A First Sergeant, for example, has a lot more responsibility than a Platoon leader

[@jovanlegister7779]

If you were prior enlisted and then you commissioned, you must serve at least ten years as an officer before you are eligible for retirement.

[@TheArmybusiness]

You can’t retire as an officer unless you’ve been officer for at least 8 years, regardless how many years of prior service you got. So, no “go, be officer for 4 years and then retire”.

[@Jaylyons1]

*10 years

[@AlexNH56]

But can you get out of the army as a reserves officer after your 8 years?? Regardless of retiring or not retiring. VA still gotta give you something for your service it’s better than nothing. Plus I don’t ever want to ask a thing from this country but just to continue to give it my service

[@paytnconner8495]

You have to be an officer for ten years to receive retirement pay for that rank. If not, you’d receive the highest 36 months of your enlisted rank.

[@DivePlane13]

Hold on. I'm confused here. But you're an officer? Why would you get enlisted pay?

[@ramsesguerrerodiaz113]

dude this video make me take my final desition on joining thx for all the help, your awesome.

[@beatsbytree6192]

I saw you at the gym the other day sir you’re 1 of my biggest information sources hopefully I get a chance too have a conversation with you eventually

[@CashflowComa]

Hah! Combat this by starting a business or having a side hustle while in the Military! That's what I did!

[@robertosanchez6803]

Kewl

[@CashflowComa]

@Pops Fenwick yeah! Its alright, most officers rent and don't know what to do with their money anyways 💀💀💀

[@GothicTeaVea]

Or just get out and make bank as a contractor 🤦

[@calebpack4129]

You the best Matt! I’m going to basic training in May as an Infantryman in the Reserves and have them pay for my college, then I’m going to try to go in as an officer once I get out as active duty!

[@legiongamers99]

Thanks for the videos Matt. I leave for basic next week and your video help.

[@DLICIOUS42]

Well to put it into an easier perspective. Officers are required to have at least a Bachelor's degree. Most enlisted are straight from high school when they join. Somewhat like civilian jobs where management positions usually require a college education which is somewhat an equivalent to Officers in the military. I was enlisted in the Navy straight out of high school from 1987-91.

[@notryan8430]

Is it wrong to have a playlist of 50 videos from this guy.

[@janvalle8998]

yes

[@ManyTanks1]

Absolutely not

[@isaiahkepa3291]

Saw you Thursday at Subway, I am currently stationed in Fort Gordon. Just got Mos Qualified as a 25U, graduate on March 20th. Wanted to take a picture with you but didnt want to intrude lol

[@ericg649]

I was enlisted for a 4 year Marine Corp contract. In my experience, I thought climbing the ladder = more opportunities. I found out that sometimes the responsibility outweighs the opportunity. I reached E5 by my third year then my next promotion came with a desk. I chose infantry to be in the field but ultimately left the service because of advancement. I did not want to be in an office and away from my men!!!

[@blakerobinson8]

Although my goal is to be an officer, I must say the pay gap is pretty ridiculous

[@jswalker28]

The question should be why is the pay disparity so drastic between enlisted and officer, not why are officer’s paid more. The latter should be obvious. The current pay structure needs serious revision.

[@wilsonmar5140]

Officers have a lot more responsibility

[@TSMTree]

Been watching your videos for a few months now I’m taking my picat Monday and going to MEPS on Wednesday thanks for all the good information ‼️ I’m trying to go 12m

[@DivePlane13]

How you like it so far?

[@lordhumongous4272]

In my experience. LTs stand around with their thumbs up their butt and the NCO/SNCO's are the ones leading, making decisions, making adjustment changes etc, while the officers get all the credit.

[@alexanderthegreat7258]

I really appreciate these videos you put out. Though I only plan to do about 4-6years of service if possible so I think doing Enlisted should be the road I take

[@brunoboy98]

how’s it going with that bro

[@ozev5395]

Im a soldier in Saudi Arabia my pay is 1500 dollars in my country the best thin you can get if you are a soldier is a master Sergeant and you pay will be 3400 dollars even if you have a PHD i hope that changes

[@KJWalker30]

Stop disliking videos, if u don’t like it just skip to another video. Some of us like to listen to things like this and it’s very informative

[@somedude8044]

No worries, any interaction(like,dislike,comment) tells the algorethims to opvote it

[@xXSgtWolfXx]

i disliked your comment

[@Sealoblu]

This guy is the reason why im doing army rotc to become an officer

[@stillesorrow]

Back in the day… 80’s you are not making E-6 in 4-6 years.. maybe as a Infantrymen… but in most MOS.. I think not.. maybe that has changed… I have seen guys hit E-5 on the first tour… back then I would say… 8-9years to E6 and 12-15 years to E-7 with Washington approval, don’t remember if that was pentagon or congressional.. with the head to toe black and white Photo in full dress uniform..

[@buster117]

Joining the military just for money isn't worth it especially in the UK naval officer start with awful pay.

[@busking6292]

Not sure if this is true today but apparently in the past officers in the British army were paid very little and needed to be independently wealthy with a private income,this helped the 'upper class' hold the reins of the military and the lack of income discouraged the lower classes(with all the expense involved)from seeking 'officer status' thus minimising the possibility of any insurrection or revolution in the country,if anyone can enlighten me on this, feel free.

[@malcolmmitchell7207]

I’m already in Army ROTC in college.

[@compulsoryevacuationdevice]

Hi Matt. I got through the meps today, partially thanks to your in-depth videos on it. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but they definitely tried to trick me into disqualifying myself. Knowing what to expect was a huge help. In the next few months, I'm making sure to rewatch everything you've made about basic training. Although I'm going to fort lax-son so I'm not too worried.

[@vanage1423]

man ima try to get to general and be a officer for 50 years

[@michaelbennett9197]

Das a long time

[@simunator]

honestly with most operational duties being honchoed by SNCOs officer corps needs a major structural reorganization or a severe pay degrade. it's simple, you become an officer because you love to take care of people and the organization. those who join chasing a paycheck don't belong in the military. i'd gladly take a pay cut as an O if that reallocation goes back to the enlisted corps and workcenters. or maybe even better, equal pay based on pay grade meaning E=O and pay depends on numerical rank exclusively

[@Sleeper-Slug6]

Great video thank you for the info 🤙🏼

[@555125kevin]

In general officers and enlisted don't make much compared to the average civilian salary. More senior officer make the real $$$

[@nicklewis2826]

A lieutenant with time served is making like 4-5k. That’s about what civilians make. Then look at the benefits, insurance, BAH, BAS, etc.

[@BPD1586]

@@nicklewis2826 exactly, military benefits are are better. Housing, medical, education, etc.

[@johndorobiala5401]

There is a currious dynamic, which I admit even after 24 years as an Enlisted member I still dont understand....Officers spend more time at work, but Enlisted do more work during those same hours....And just one dudes opinion but.....Especially now as Officers are no longer held to the burden of command, with the introduction of social justice programs, inclusiveness that devides the soldiers, and the constant sensitivity training needed to assuage the feelings of people who joined an organization who's sole responsibility it is to project power, and find fix and fucking destroy the enemies of the United States of America!

[@macdaddy2727]

The pay scale is archaic. It was developed when enlisted had little education and very little expectations. I’m an E8 w/ 20. I respect my pay, but I also feel O pay is way too high. Heavy burden for the tax payer. It’s not only the base pay but the retirement pension that drains the system.

[@sportsbettingeducation]

They do more work. They have more pressure on them. So they make more money. Boom!

[@Zachk_6.7]

My end goal right here I’m coming in enlisted using G.i. Bill to do college then plan on going green to gold

[@Zachk_6.7]

If I could get some follows on social media I’ll be sharing my journey to get there. Insta is @pvtkennedy

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

Just use ta save your gi for a kid or wife something you can get up to masters for free through ta

[@MrBigChops]

@@mondaysinsanity8193 what is ta?

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

@@MrBigChops tuition assistance

[@ShaneFleming2016]

Because you tell NCOs and newbies to embrace the suck. Woot

[@austinblack180]

Shane Fleming yeah. a 10+ year NCO that’s been deployed probably 2 or more times is gonna take a butterbar seriously.

[@ShaneFleming2016]

@@austinblack180 I've heard that good newly commissioned officers actually rely on NCOs since they have more experience. They're the backbone

[@austinblack180]

Shane Fleming officers take care of a lot more of the administrative stuff. An NCO Actually has more time training the soldiers.

[@nicholascaron7994]

The pay gap is way too large. The big decisions the officers make are strongly influenced by their nco's.

[@tc9634]

In the navy they mean that literally.

[@jabber1990]

i've known 17 year olds who have children went to BCT with at least 2 17 year olds who had children...wouldn't shock me if there were more than that

[@jc5604]

Yea have to spend 10 years as an officer to retire as an officer. Make your decision early - maybe around the time that O1E would be slightly more than what you made as an NCO. The earning potential is so much more after O1 compared to enlisted side.

[@AlexaThinks]

For Navy, if you convert to LDO you have to commit 10 years before you can retire with Officer pay. Caveat.

[@aegisofhonor]

also, officers have to pay out of pocket for a lot of different expenses that enlisted soldiers often get a credit or a stipend for such things as a higher food allowance, clothing/uniform allowance, higher bonuses for hardship pay and the like which does somewhat close the gap between enlisted and officers.

[@janvalle8998]

Doesn't really close the gap.

[@S_Patty0331]

Officers make the decisions, Enlisted make the difference. Check

[@Vexies]

I'm watching this because I saw a tiktok slamming on someone and it pissed me off so I came here to get some info.

[@davecakeman1734]

I can do 13 push ups MAX run a 16 minute mile and 35 sit ups be honest would I pass basic training if I joined today

[@CashflowComa]

I'm afraid not my friend. No worries, just train for a little longer and you'll be good to go

[@dontworryboutit3385]

Dave Cakeman your mile is not going to cut it. Your mile is what you need to run 2 miles.

[@tevonboyd93]

Acft standards yes Plus let's be honest the drill sergeants will make you stronger in that aspect

[@chuongquang225]

Joining Army with a degree, enlisted at E4 and ship date is next week, it’s my goal to be an officer with serving experiences (2 years at least), i wanna be an officer with understanding about enlisted life, enlisted soldiers to lead the team better

[@Alejo__]

Chuong Quang stop playing COD

[@grantwalter2243]

Chuong Quang whats your major?

[@chuongquang225]

Alias 91S ,Stryker system maintainer, quite a young MOS

[@iantorres8253]

But couldn't you say that an officer kind of has 4 years of being in the military because they where cadets

[@janvalle8998]

"Cadets" are only those in a military academy, those in ROTC have ROTC cadet ranks, but are not cadets. Neither are serving in the military, therefore there is no time in service or grade.

[@familiacruzramos9403]

Yes it does. I was a contracted cadet as ms 2 and ms3 year and recruiter said to me that in the sistem I had a 2 year service.

[@devonshaw4661]

Hey Matt, I am going to meps in the 27th. I am inlisting in the Minnesota National Guard, how do I negotiate for things on my enlistment contract?

[@kevincollins7320]

Work own paper sometime a apply in field operations.

[@mjbrownii]

You work as reserve right? Aren’t you getting paid less than that?

[@olatunjianthony7066]

I'm just seeing this...can a Nigerian University degree be enough to join the military as an officer??

[@panjandrum281]

I have a faint scar on my wrist from trying to cut a tag off a shirt not paying attention and very lightly hitting my wrist would the meps people believe it’s not self mutilation? Also if u go to basic training already good at jiu jitsu will you ever get to practice your more high level stuff?

[@101etime]

About $2000 a mounts as E-6? That amount is ridiculously low. Are you sure your data is correct bro? I enlisted as E-3 in April last year, while in title 10 status in BCT and AIT, I got paid twice a month, and each pay check is $1500ish, so 3k a month total. The information in this video just doesn’t add up to my situation.

[@zoeith6]

You can't do 15 years enlisted and then 'switch' over for 4 or 5 years and retire and then get officer retirement. You need to have the majority of service in the officer side to get that pay and a minimum of 3 years in that rank to get that ranks pay. So if you make o4 at 20 years and retire you will get o3 pay. If you make o4 at 20 and then retire at 23 years you will get that o4 retirement.

[@AlexNH56]

What’s the bare minimum you have to serve as a reserved officer before being able to get out? 8 years?

[@marlowhadnot]

Warrant officer is the best route to go

[@stormiswavy4552]

Hey Matt, love your videos man. Currently am going in with the option 40 contract but have a question for you. Could you either explain to me or make a video on how to get into sniper school?

[@janvalle8998]

If you haven't already, literally just type in "US ARMY sniper school" into google.

[@reza7531]

A food truck worker gets about 5k to 9k per month and doesnt risk his life

[@panfordnoble806]

So i signed a 4yr active duty contract. But thinking of reenlisting as reserves when the contract ends, in order for me to go to school full time to get a bachelor's with the hope that i can become an officer after graduation. What do u think? I already have some college credits too

[@christinalouise4624]

How much do 2nd lit make a year under 12 mns

[@PlagueDoc25]

Hey Matt I wish you could make a video about if you should do exercise on your own after PT and how to do it. I'm in college ROTC and they tell you to do PT on your own because we exercise from monday to thursday usually and I'm a bit hesitant to do exercise on my own because I don't want to overtrain and not be able to do PT

[@janvalle8998]

What kind of reasoning even is that? Yes you want to do PT, within your bodies limits of course.

[@Rameses3113]

First of all officers do not make “bank”, yea compared to enlisted they make a little more BUT if you compare them to civilians they make much less.

[@TerraOblivion27]

Compare salary of a soldier plus health insurance, housing allowance, and food allowance and you will see they make decent money

[@stetsonnecaise3507]

Well explained

[@icanhazratburgr]

I ship to BCT on the first of July to Jackson, then to Lee for AIT (91B) up until sometime in December I believe, if I don't take or get approved for leave during the holidays what can I expect to do during that time when others are on leave?

[@sergeantthomas3295]

Details lol

[@t-jizzyproductions]

So i watched one of your previous videos and basically you said that if you are offered a job you don’t want... don’t accept it. Well... i’m not gonna lie. I’m not smart enough for the field i’m tryna get into. (Increased my ASVAB score by 22 points in 5 days ‘via the PICAT’) I’ve been studying my ass off. My recruiter basically just said to me though that if they take me up to MEPS & i don’t see the job i want... they are still expecting me to sign because it costs about $8,000 of tax payers money JUST for me to go up there. Which i believe, but damn. That’s kind of messed up if you ask me. Tryna blackmail me into do sum i ain’t tryna do 😭😂 Do you think i should continue through and go to MEPS or say no? (I’m talking with the Navy rn, but honestly more than likely gonna do Army cause i have more experience with Army JROTC etc)

[@sergeantthomas3295]

If your score is as low as it sounds you wont be able to Join the Navy any way, if you already made the decision to join the Army focus on getting your foot in the door go to MEPS and choose a job that you can use on the outside once you are in you can raise your GT score and there is a possibility that you can change your MOS, if not use the Army as a stepping stone take the training and the benefits the Army is going to give you select a contract with the least amount of time and get out and put it all to use

[@t-jizzyproductions]

Sergeant Thomas My very first time taking the ASVAB i scored a 26. I was a sophomore in high school & not gonna lie partially BS’d it. Lol! But i took the PICAT & got a 45. I REALLY like that idea though. No matter what i do, i do know my reason for going in is i’d like to serve my country, but as of rn i believe taking the minimum contract may be for the best. Idk how to tell my Navy recruiter i’m gonna go talk to an Army guy though without them looking at me like “wtf?” Cause i gave them most my paper work 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

[@sergeantthomas3295]

@@t-jizzyproductions if your reason for Joining is to serve your country dont let not getting a specific job stop you alot of people can't even get as far as you have in the process, getting your foot in the door should be the focus dont let the bonus distract you eirher( if there is one) take the least amount of time, money you can get back but time you cant if you dont like it youll be able to do your time and get out sooner than later if you do like it you can reenlist, The Navy recruiter is not going to care as much as you think unless things have changed his focus is putting in people who have a 50 or above so while he is committed to you, you're truly not top priority, besides at the end of the day it's your life you gotta do what's best for you oh and another thing you talking about choosing jobs, you cant choose your job in the navy in the same sense as in the Army

[@t-jizzyproductions]

Sergeant Thomas I got yah. I’m kind of hoping it doesn’t give me a bad rep in all the recruiters eyes in my city. & yeah i was never really too into it for the money. Lol! I’m pretty fascinated by the thought of them teaching me life skills, discipline, & to appreciate all around the benefits we have everyday & don’t take as much appreciation for. I’d like to see all the opportunities i have in life and know how to make the decisions best for me with a leveled head. I feel like they can teach me that. I can go on all day about my dreams & goals, so i’d really just like to say this... i am extremely grateful for your help. It helped more than you know. & thank you for you service

[@sergeantthomas3295]

@@t-jizzyproductions I appreciate the appreciation

[@reza7531]

I am almost a child in a foregienr country and i wanted to be a green beret soldier, i said well i get a job visa and then i can get citizenship through army, then work 2 years in army and here we are, now can be one of em, Then i searched special operators salary and i got soooo shocked now im confused :(((((

[@rajarshichakraborty9141]

Do you have different mess hall for officer's and enlisted In us military also????

[@angiepatterson6338]

You should never join on either side for the money. Neither side makes anything near what their civilian counterparts make. If you’re out at sea and can’t make your money last then there’s something wrong with you.

[@grapeshot23]

Bad advice, you have to do 10 years active federal commissioned service to retire with officer pay. Anything less than that and your pay will revert your high 3 before you commissioned.

[@austinblack180]

The 3-4 year timespan for E-5 is not always true. You should have mentioned that you have to meet really high cutoff scores for some MOS.

[@MattWard89]

Yeah but on avg you should definitely get it in that timeframe. I’ve also talked previously on how MOS’ determines how easy or hard it is to get promoted in the nco ranks

[@JakeBroe]

For enlisted (like an E-7) that switch over to be an officer, they have to do 10 years to retire as an officer. Otherwise their pension and retirement package reverts to their E-7 time.

[@tonylazzar3976]

Hey I qualified for 35 Lima and am supposed to enlist on Monday, however other than go army’s website I can barely find any info on 35 Lima if anyone out there has info and could send it my way that would be great

[@benderrodriguez5428]

I’m so confused. How long is BCT? Is it one week of reception AND ten weeks of BCT? Or is it one week of reception and nine weeks of BCT? I’ve heard it both ways many times and I am confused about it. Can someone answer please?

[@roofio2434]

Just do it

[@josedejesuszaragoza3246]

I want to be a 91B in the Army but also want to do a bit of combat will it be possible or I need to pick a different mos? ?

[@janvalle8998]

I'm sure a mechanic will see bullets fly

[@markwigstone7488]

What he is talking about is just crazy they platoon can run without an officer there's a lot of ncos that could lead a platoon better than a lot of officers especially second lieutenants and there's staff sergeant who have families they got college debts just like a second lieutenant

[@marcushall509]

So are you active reserve. When did you switch to active duty. I been in basic training and AIT.

[@timothyhickle8345]

Hey question I know you mentioned that the officers are probably older and have college education but what about a 19 year old with a bachelors degree what would you suggest? Officer or Enlisted?

[@octavian-9571]

Officer, higher Pay obviously

[@shaylane5013]

That’s my problem also. 19 years old with bachelors degree. Probs gonna go for the officer route.

[@LuisLopez-xn8vd]

I’m 15 and I’m planning to join the army as an officer, still learning all the details of joining the military.

[@aturtlenamedrex934]

I'm enlisting

[@emersonarias7998]

Who’s going to fort Jackson on March 25th ?

[@dtj4585]

Helpful 🙏🏾

[@luckycharms1999]

Can u talk about counselings and punishments?