Enneagram #4 | Everything You Need To Know?

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@estherlee6789
@estherlee6789 3 жыл бұрын
You know when you are a four when you start crying less than 5 minutes into the video after hearing that you are unique and it should not be changed because it’s the way God made you. Thank you for this sermon! It was a huge encouragement and made me remember my love for God, who is the ultimate unique One ❤️
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 3 жыл бұрын
We're glad it was able to help you Esther! We're praying for you today. We just recently finished up another series on the enenagram if you'd like more! kzbin.info/aero/PLUV2tfAVC_fMg-iSR1A8mFcJvBYt3MPae
@stelmaria5678
@stelmaria5678 5 жыл бұрын
The first video I’ve ever seen on 4’s that doesn’t make us out to be terrible awful people to be around lol I really enjoyed this and as a 4 I too cried the entire time 😅
@apoorvjain3071
@apoorvjain3071 5 жыл бұрын
It really boosted my confidence and made me feel good about myself and how kind is God . Just embrace whatever we are and shine
@andrewcramer9200
@andrewcramer9200 4 жыл бұрын
Good news: types don't exist. You may live your life free of that burden. www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity_17.html
@southernsoul152
@southernsoul152 3 жыл бұрын
You are beautiful!! Never forget that 🙏🏽💙
@PennoyerFoyer
@PennoyerFoyer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, OP!!! Like I would need to go source Camel hair for my self weaved top?! I mean, really, there's always Cashmere yarn available!!! 🤠🤗🤗
@MAYBENOTGameplay
@MAYBENOTGameplay 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewcramer9200 Good news: God doesn't exist. Better just throw the book away and live your life free of that burden.
@bmcgovs2628
@bmcgovs2628 5 жыл бұрын
When he said 4’s feel others emotion I smiled because I’m a 4 and I always know everyone’s feelings
@zidesce7961
@zidesce7961 Жыл бұрын
probably because you're a 9
@aleeymeow
@aleeymeow 5 жыл бұрын
This was such a beautiful sermon, I am a type 4 and was overwhelmed with emotion listening to this and feeling so understood finally. I haven't been religious for a long time but I feel like it's time I try to get in touch with my faith and spirituality.
@mythi1635
@mythi1635 4 жыл бұрын
Amen I hope your doing well spiritually! God loves you and me..I’m learning how much that truly is
@No-js8bs
@No-js8bs 2 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how many times I have listened to this sermon and this series. I'm a 4 and feel constantly misunderstood. I struggle with feeling broken, useless, unwanted and invisible. Whenever I feel broken and invisible, I listened to this. This sermon articulated everything I couldn't express myself. When I heard this, I finally met the person that God made me to be. I need to remind myself who God says I am. I can't let what people think about me shape who I am, because frankly, I don't think they have any idea who I am. Now I know that I'm not broken, I'm unique. Thank you for showing me that.
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching with us Faith. We're sorry that you've had to struggle with these thoughts but we are praying for you! Have you been able to get connected with a community group? They are a great way to work through some of these thoughts and pains. We have in person and online options for groups too! If you'd like to join one would you send us an email online@sandalschurch.com so we can get connected with you? Praying for you today!!
@lotsofalexandra
@lotsofalexandra 6 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing to hear a sermon series on the enneagrams. I’m a 4, so naturally I cried throughout this whole sermon here. Thank you.
@Bhanna4d
@Bhanna4d 5 жыл бұрын
So true!!
@karah-gracekahleh7300
@karah-gracekahleh7300 5 жыл бұрын
Same and same 😩😩😩😭😭😭
@dorcasopoku
@dorcasopoku 5 жыл бұрын
lotsofalexandra same😭😭😭
@willdenham
@willdenham 5 жыл бұрын
@lotsofalexandra, I see myself in many of the numbers tendencies. I think I'm probably a 4 but don't know at a gut level. My question is, how did you arrive at certainty, and did you see some similarity to the others?
@melanieguere2898
@melanieguere2898 5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@TChanProductions
@TChanProductions 4 жыл бұрын
"That's how you know you're a 4 when you wish you were something else" wow I feel so seen
@andrewcramer9200
@andrewcramer9200 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone has that feeling, it's a complete Barnum/Forer Effect statement. stream.org/enneagram-getting-more-popular-among-christians-thats-bad/ Well, maybe not quite everyone but many many people :p
@crazeekids9744
@crazeekids9744 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewcramer9200 actually no, no they really don’t.
@kathleenmay3530
@kathleenmay3530 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewcramer9200 interesting article!!
@naomizaki6619
@naomizaki6619 3 жыл бұрын
This is literally how I ended up here, because I was desperate to find an alternative to constantly feeling that way :')
@DamyanTenev
@DamyanTenev 7 ай бұрын
The thing with 4s is that they use authenticity as DEFFENCE mechanism
@skewerthis1234
@skewerthis1234 3 жыл бұрын
type 4 and infp, and I've been known to see usefulness in everyone. However envy and impatience probably the hardest struggle this type faces for sure.
@irinad4081
@irinad4081 3 жыл бұрын
Impatience... Yes!
@lunam33
@lunam33 3 жыл бұрын
Infp too
@sierracademianut
@sierracademianut 6 жыл бұрын
Like a true 4, I was crying in the car while listening to this message. Thanks for posting!
@Hannahhjiue
@Hannahhjiue 6 жыл бұрын
Same 😂😭
@addie2747
@addie2747 4 жыл бұрын
Me too but im in bed at 3am with sad music in the background
@tracyreadytv
@tracyreadytv 4 жыл бұрын
I just found out I'm a 4. And yes, I'm crying listening.
@vespereer8450
@vespereer8450 6 жыл бұрын
Nobody cares about how I feel. Nobody cares about what I think. Nobody cares about what I do. That makes me believe I'm no-one and not worth noticing. I will be different and unique so hopefully somebody will recognize me. Perhaps I'm missing certain qualities. If only I were as confident as him. If only I were as beautiful as her. Then maybe then I would be noticed and loved.
@emmae1716
@emmae1716 5 жыл бұрын
Oof don't do that to me fam
@bmcgovs2628
@bmcgovs2628 5 жыл бұрын
I felt that hard
@lulu4825
@lulu4825 5 жыл бұрын
That felt like a kick in the nuts
@King_Alfred_849
@King_Alfred_849 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you talk yourself down so much?
@Camey0587
@Camey0587 4 жыл бұрын
Vespereer are you a 9
@EveningTV
@EveningTV 2 жыл бұрын
My first born son was such a four, totally unique, gifted, singer/songwriter and musician. My favorite person but he died at 20 years old and his brother and I miss him so much. I'm 2 w 3 and my surviving son is a 6 w 7 and life has been a bit like walking in quick sand ever since.
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 2 жыл бұрын
We are so sorry for your loss friend. We're lifting you up in prayer and healing now. If you'd like, we would love to get connected with you and walk alongside you in this difficult time. Can you send us an email at online@sandalschurch.com so we can get connected?
@elisereid5101
@elisereid5101 6 жыл бұрын
Wow you are amazing, this coming from an 4 who does not worship God. Your style would make me come to church every day just to listen to you. Thank you so much for making these videos.
@FeliciaFollum
@FeliciaFollum 6 жыл бұрын
Elise Reid what do you worship? 😉 Just curious conversation
@elisereid5101
@elisereid5101 6 жыл бұрын
Felicia Follum I believe in love and personal growth.
@naturalebeing
@naturalebeing 6 жыл бұрын
me too
@elitistninja
@elitistninja 6 жыл бұрын
@@elisereid5101 What does believing in love mean? Doesn't everybody believe in love and personal growth?
@juliebabin4635
@juliebabin4635 6 жыл бұрын
I’m a four and this video was a game changer for me. I’m huge fan of pastor Matt now. And has helped me to come to believe in god. So grateful 🙏🏼
@daringgreatly8473
@daringgreatly8473 6 жыл бұрын
I’m a 4w5 and I’m always hiding 😂 I’ve faced a lot of rejection from the church even though I’m spirit filled and been in church most of my life. I always feel like they target me or isolate me. I’m a bit off beat. Anyway great video. I always wanted to teach on the enneagram because I’m passionate about unity in the body of Christ. I guess because I’ve felt rejected and see the ins and outs as to why it happens. I learned about the enneagram 17 years ago in a discipleship class and have been hooked ever since.
@daringgreatly8473
@daringgreatly8473 6 жыл бұрын
S L A V E N C A thank you! Yes we are all a special part of the body of Christ and we are all needed for it to function! 💜🌸 God bless!
@bloomthrive9179
@bloomthrive9179 6 жыл бұрын
Wow I am like you too!! I totally understand!!!
@willdenham
@willdenham 5 жыл бұрын
Find a new congregation. A judgemental church community that rejects you is a selfish, spiritually immature one. God rejects no one, not being aware of this simple fact is absolute ignorance. You could never grow spiritually in their midst, especially considering the lack of support.
@clairemarinelli5448
@clairemarinelli5448 5 жыл бұрын
i sort of relate a lot. i'm 4w5 too, and faced a lot of rejection across the board. i've never come across physical rejection from the church in real life, but being bi, i know it's there. only my own mom, sisters, and best friends know, anyways. i honestly don't even think i believe in god because as a teenager growing up in this world, i don't know if it's possible there's a god. it's mostly because of school shootings. i just don't understand it. but also being bi, how can i love a church that often doesn't love me back? anyways, i'm just ranting on youtube now... i'll just leave...
@7EmpathicBeauty
@7EmpathicBeauty 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a 4w5 and I just need answers from the Lord. I don't get envious but I do need to stay away from social media because nobody understands my perspective. I also change back and forth, making me an unstable genuine paradox...people don't like that. I crave a person who can keep up with my emotional fluctuations...but everything else explained in the video is on point!
@grcdtgrw
@grcdtgrw 6 жыл бұрын
I am a 4 and had so many moments where I laughed in agreement. Thank you for uploading this Sandals Church!
@katec8843
@katec8843 5 жыл бұрын
same haha
@sierrapruitt6998
@sierrapruitt6998 6 жыл бұрын
I am a 4 and this is absolutely amazing!!!! how cool it is to understand how God made me, gosh this is unreal.
@norawentzlaff5755
@norawentzlaff5755 5 жыл бұрын
I’m the youngest and I’m a 4, I think the idea that I could never fit in with my older siblings is what made me feel insignificant compared to them. It’s not always the middle child, it depends a lot on nature, and a little on nurture. I am also the only person in my family in the heart triad! Which makes this 4 so happy ☺️
@joanne8987
@joanne8987 5 жыл бұрын
What's a heart triad??
@norawentzlaff5755
@norawentzlaff5755 5 жыл бұрын
Joanne Caradonna there are 3 different “triads” in the enneagram, the heart, the gut, and the thinking. 5,6,& 7 are the thinking triad. 8, 9, & 1 are the gut triad. And 2, 3, & 4 are in the heart triad. It just adds to the theory of how we make decisions, based on our thoughts, gut, or heart.
@joanne8987
@joanne8987 5 жыл бұрын
@@norawentzlaff5755,thank you for the explanation.
@bethy_5485
@bethy_5485 3 жыл бұрын
I'm the youngest too and I feel exactly like this! I was always too young for my siblings and now that I'm in highschool their all in college so its like a never ending cycle of never being old enough to fit in. I find that I envy age over most things because of that
@icantseeyou1294
@icantseeyou1294 3 жыл бұрын
I think my youngest sister is also a 4, because we are much more older than her and also have a special connection with our other sister (we're twins), which she've never experienced. So, basically the reason is the same as in your situation. I'm also a 4 and I thought about my reason(s) and I guess it's also connected to the fact that I'm a twin.
@kristiyamachika1336
@kristiyamachika1336 5 жыл бұрын
I've been studying for the Enneagram for years, and despite being deeply Christian, I never thought to kind of combine the two and see it in a Christian perspective and therefore deepen my understanding of it. This is WONDERFUL. This touched me especially since I myself am a type 4. Thank you!
@andrewcramer9200
@andrewcramer9200 4 жыл бұрын
Uh, no worshiphisbeauty.wordpress.com/2020/05/09/the-theology-of-the-enneagram/
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 3 жыл бұрын
This is demonic and not of God
@mrboombastic4664
@mrboombastic4664 2 жыл бұрын
😵‍💫 ….eyeNeedFoooddd!! … & eyeMissMyDaughter! 💯 🍔 👧🏻 🥰 🐝
@viarceus8998
@viarceus8998 4 жыл бұрын
I love this! But for me personally as a 4, envy resides more with envy of people having contentment in life and envy of people who don’t feel like they have to be different. Or envy of people who’s emotions are constantly wavering
@anastasiakalaitzakis4227
@anastasiakalaitzakis4227 2 жыл бұрын
Your words alone offer positivity and clarity, yelling negates your message. Thank you for your wisdom and grace.
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching with us!
@fiatlux1343
@fiatlux1343 5 жыл бұрын
Very encouraging to see the church regaining some of its splendor. It was so dead when I went many years ago. I'm not a churchgoer but I'm so happy to see the church being inspired and regaining the thread of power that it should be a beacon for.
@misskat7437
@misskat7437 4 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of 4, and I used to think I was a 3. The ones I find to be very successful and I am envious, are actually envious of me. The ones I’m intimate with tell me all these things that come easier to me and they admire me for those traits, and in my mind I’m always shocked because that’s just what I’ve had to do to survive in life. It’s interesting how God always develops our gifts due to our environments. Praise Him!
@Kleiminc
@Kleiminc 5 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Thank you Pastor, I’ve randomly found your sermon while looking for “What is 4 personality” I wasn’t expecting a solid Christian view on this. Now I found a good church to stream for my self and my family.
@andrewcramer9200
@andrewcramer9200 4 жыл бұрын
There's no solid Christian view that supports the Enneagram. worshiphisbeauty.wordpress.com/2020/05/09/the-theology-of-the-enneagram/ It is evil.
@midnightdreama
@midnightdreama 4 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say I'm so glad Im not the only one crying because I've never felt so understood.
@latoyiab79
@latoyiab79 3 жыл бұрын
Took the test. I'm a 4. It is so spot on. It depressed me knowing I am a 4 but this allow me to know it's not a bad thing. God give us 4's strength to keep pushing through.
@radnerb
@radnerb 3 жыл бұрын
I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram. Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
@katherinegraffeo5363
@katherinegraffeo5363 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I love getting to see a story in the Bible I’ve heard numerous times through a brand new lens! This resonates. Through most of my life, before accepting who I was, I always found type 7 people around me to be so intriguing and jealous of the freedom they seemed to have to be who they are. Thank you God for teaching me I just didn’t have to listen to anyone else... you know me inside and out and speak to me in richness. LOVE hearing you speak Pastor Matt! Coming across your church’s content has been a treasure trove of goodness!! 💓✨
@T3Z1993
@T3Z1993 4 жыл бұрын
Has a friend basically call me out as a ‘4” today and I had no idea what it meant until I looked it up and saw this video and now I’m crying because I don’t feel so alone anymore
@JonasAnandaKristiansson
@JonasAnandaKristiansson 4 жыл бұрын
It is so wonderful to find out
@crowmedicine3890
@crowmedicine3890 3 жыл бұрын
You are not alone.
@utkarsh3708
@utkarsh3708 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonasAnandaKristiansson you are everywhere 🤯
@JonasAnandaKristiansson
@JonasAnandaKristiansson 3 жыл бұрын
@@utkarsh3708 Wow haha!! Seems we looking at the same stuff then
@findingthetrutheveryday
@findingthetrutheveryday Жыл бұрын
When he said "you need a 4, they feel everything, they are awesome " 😭❤️
@jacobr8063
@jacobr8063 3 жыл бұрын
Middle child and a 4. Lived my whole life feeling like something is wrong with me.
@jowedeven7949
@jowedeven7949 5 жыл бұрын
I think Saul is a loyalist, not a 4. He was afraid and hid when he was appointed king. He wanted to please the people, so he didn't wait for Samuel and his fear led him to sin. That is in no way the path of an individualist. Also, he was an extremely unhealthy 6, and picked up an evil spirit, which made him even more paranoid and fearful. I would propose John the Baptist, locust eater or Jeremiah, the weeping prophet in a time of judgment, listening and waiting for a word from the Lord,are better scriptural examples of a 4. While I'm a 2, not a 4, I felt it did a disservice to 4's to use this example.
@kylecurtright4589
@kylecurtright4589 5 жыл бұрын
I felt that Saul was a bit of a stretch as well. I agree that John or Jeremiah would have been more representative examples of a 4.
@Seeker0fTruth
@Seeker0fTruth 4 жыл бұрын
Kyle Curtright or what about Paul???
@samanthajo5841
@samanthajo5841 4 жыл бұрын
Lol hearing this and feeling more misunderstood by the sermon hahaha then I saw your comment and at least you get it Thank you 🙏
@gooeystranger7685
@gooeystranger7685 2 жыл бұрын
That opening prayer touched my heart. I’m a 4 and an artist. So happy to have found this blend of enneagram 4 and the bible. Bless your church, and all of god’s children. Yes the child in you too. 🤍🌀
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching with us friend!
@dlindsey257
@dlindsey257 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a 4, and this just changed my life
@fisherburgess4971
@fisherburgess4971 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a four and I watched this and everything is so true I read the description of a four and heard it but this sermon truly told me every detail about myself. Now that I think about this this applies to virtually everything and I’m the last but both of my siblings have left for college and I’ve always feared my parents getting too caught up in them. I’ve always felt like I lacked so much and when I got something I found something else. This is so good keep preaching.
@KeelaCreates
@KeelaCreates 6 жыл бұрын
This has been one of the most helpful tools for me. Please do more with this. As a four, I’ve listen to this probably 20 times because I often need to be reminded of the truth. Thank you for this.
@sharonjoubert5885
@sharonjoubert5885 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness I love this!!!! I had NEVER thought of looking for myself in the bible and yet......God uses a lot of us!
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jellyphish2112
@jellyphish2112 5 жыл бұрын
I am not a Christian, but I really appreciated this...nice to hear various perspectives.
@jusueg.3859
@jusueg.3859 4 жыл бұрын
i’ve found a lot of solace in accepting that i might not be noticed, validated, seen, etc. or in the illusory, compulsive, and bottomless abyss of achievement. and this is cool with me. it is only until i accept this that i enjoy where i am, and strive for fulfillment that lights me up first, and ripples outward to benefit everyone else. bless up family 🥂
@Geneka737
@Geneka737 Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@artiscrutial
@artiscrutial 5 жыл бұрын
This was awesome, so happy I came across this sermon. I loved how he explained who God is as well as who he called Saul to be. I am also like Saul and I admit that. I feel deeply and I worry a lot about being good enough. This helped tremendously!
@titusgunter2824
@titusgunter2824 3 жыл бұрын
I needed to hear this. Iv been suppressing my personality for years now because it always put a target on my back.
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Titus! We're actually currently going through a refreshed version of this series now! You can watch the newer sermons here: kzbin.info/aero/PLUV2tfAVC_fMg-iSR1A8mFcJvBYt3MPae
@EllenAFeldman
@EllenAFeldman 6 жыл бұрын
WOW...I'm a 4, and I was bawling throughout almost the entire video...it was so on point. This may have been the best thing I've ever seen/read about being a 4; thank you for this. :)
@conversegirl3074
@conversegirl3074 6 жыл бұрын
...and you're bawling the entire time BECAUSE you're a 4 ROFL!
@EllenAFeldman
@EllenAFeldman 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Haha
@slk8674
@slk8674 6 жыл бұрын
Lol yes!!! When it made me cry is when I knew it was a spot on survey!! Lolllll
@annrenee3265
@annrenee3265 3 жыл бұрын
Stop bawling & get over yourselves 4s 🤣 it's all ego for all of us anyway.. We need to experience our unity consciousness... We're all one
@abdullahdurrani6563
@abdullahdurrani6563 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this was incredibly insightful. The part at 25:31 really resonated with me. I need to focus on God's heart at times when I am feeling overwhelmed by my own emotions.
@ambersmithdash
@ambersmithdash 4 жыл бұрын
I cried the whole time watching this. Thank you for this series!
@detoxARNP
@detoxARNP 5 жыл бұрын
Cried!! 4w3 here, thanks for this. I am extremely envious and jealous, I really DO need to learn like you said to praise God for my uniqueness and thank and celebrate the gifting of others!
@karolcat
@karolcat 6 ай бұрын
as a four, I've felt like an outsider even sometimes at church, well during my teen years though because I was probably too shy and quiet.. I never been the extroverted person that speak in front of a crowd.. however on my walk with the Lord and specially at the workplace, had multiple people approach me and just randomly opening up, telling me stuff that I would've never thought, people that probably wouldn't be considered as "qualified" by either the world or religious standards. I always tried to listen with empathy to their feelings, I'm certain that empathy and intuition, that depth in which we can feel is one of our biggest strenght. Which unguarded can become a weakness, that's why we have to be so in tuned with our Father. My relationship with God specially is very a emotional, passionate, honest one, far from perfect... I don't know if David was a Four too, but there's nothing like crying your heart out to God and him listening and talking to you. There's a special connection there, specially with journaling, I love journaling with my messy heart and handwriting Lol. Everything, because God wants everything from Us, our hearts minds souls and strenght. It wouldn't surprise me if most Four type have the Spiritual Gift of Mercy, because we are Soul people and we feel.
@findingthetrutheveryday
@findingthetrutheveryday Жыл бұрын
15:15. "4's never feel like they're supposed to lead, but often times they're the only ones who can feel and sense the direction of God." 🥹
@John-3_16
@John-3_16 5 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhhh boy, I laughed a few times, like whoa how did he know that? LOL! The double whammy is being a boy growing up into a man and being 4 - bruuuuuuuuuuuuuutal. I recall telling my dad in middle school, why do I have emotions like a girl? Mind you, that is was what I knew as sensitive. The two main areas I needed to mature was envy and thinking verse emotional living. Now, I'm just unique :)
@attyteilalberda9443
@attyteilalberda9443 2 жыл бұрын
The fear that helds us now gives away - GRATITUDE
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@noisyrequiem
@noisyrequiem 6 жыл бұрын
I just deleted my instagram cuz I started to feel worse ..
@jusueg.3859
@jusueg.3859 4 жыл бұрын
wise decision, cheers to your good feelings 🥂
@lonihanson9124
@lonihanson9124 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I feel like I gained such a clear understanding of myself as a 4. Everything resonated so clearly. I felt so much love and a more clear understanding of myself. I feel like this is a video I need to have on hand to give to those who are close with me to really understand me. After this, I am closer to me and being good with it! I love Jesus, I love God…. This was perfect
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching with us, Loni!
@QueenAlita
@QueenAlita 4 жыл бұрын
As a type 4 I’m loving the unique background🌼
@pai13-31g
@pai13-31g 4 жыл бұрын
4 here, I cried twice listening to this. Thank you for this message, for seeing us, noticing us and appreciating us.
@radnerb
@radnerb 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know the origin of the enneagram? God teaches us through the Bible, which is the only tool we need. Proverbs 30:6 warns us, "Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar." The enneagram is strongly associated with New Age philosophy and has occultic origins. The man credited with introducing the enneagram to the West is George Gurdjieff. Gurdjieff was a mystic, philosopher, and spiritual teacher immersed in occultic practices such as astrology, mental telepathy, spiritism, fortune telling, and posession. One of his followers Oscar Ichazo, along with Claudio Naranjo (a psychiatrist and occultist) began relating the enneagram with personality types in the 1960s. In a 2010 interview, Claudio Naranjo admitted that he lied about the origins of the enneagram because he wanted his idea to become famous and widely accepted. Naranjo admitted the enneagram is not an ancient tool of Babylonian origin. He confessed he arrived at the nine personality types through "automatic writing," which is the process of producing written words while in a trance state. The words arose from a supernatural source. The bible warns us not to channel spirits (Leviticus 19:31). The enneagram is a demonic New Age teaching that is infiltrating the church. Please do your research, and remember the devil is the master of deception. Don't be led astray. 🙏🏼 The interview link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ2yZH6AjNOBmpo
@andrewcramer9200
@andrewcramer9200 4 жыл бұрын
"But the illustration of astrology brings in another factor, and that is the science of the thing. It is a reasonable question to ask whether being born under Venus has anything to do with anything. Put another way, personality tests tend to oscillate between pseudoscience and the glaringly obvious. They confirm their scientific bona fides by telling you things about yourself that everyone who knows you has already known for some twenty-odd years. When they tell you genuinely new information about yourself, there are reasonable grounds for doubting the accuracy of it, and when the insight is undoubtedly accurate, it is something that everybody knew already, especially your grandmother." dougwils.com/books-and-culture/s7-engaging-the-culture/the-enneascam.html
@nickmartinez1421
@nickmartinez1421 5 жыл бұрын
Fellow 4 here. Had me in tears at 15:25-15:35 🖤
@minnie6163
@minnie6163 4 жыл бұрын
💛💫
@vunguyentr5561
@vunguyentr5561 4 жыл бұрын
i have almost cried since very first seconds. Huge love for you from VietNam.
@8888-9
@8888-9 4 жыл бұрын
Such great idea to get this perspective into any walk in God. I struggled to practise loving my neighbour If I asked myself why and how I was to love my fellow man, true enough - I felt a compassion because of who Jesus is, and what he went through by choice- I struggled to know myself To accept the born nature of my daughter Whom I love But inwardly resisted. Now I know She is an Enneagram 8 and I am a 4. This insight has made a doorway into all that my struggles in this area were pushing me towards. It’s great to hear that churches are adopting this insight into born natures. Although us older people were into Hippocrates 4 temperaments. Choleric Phlegmatic Melancholy Sanguine And these were regarded as being expressed like two sides of one coin. The enneagram with it’s Wings into other numbered en. Is similar.
@andrewcramer9200
@andrewcramer9200 4 жыл бұрын
"The second reason I think Christians should stay away from the Enneagram is because this is the type of stuff that gives Christians and Christianity a bad name and makes it seem like Christians are anti-intellectual and anti-science. You cannot explain what the Enneagram is to a thinking person and expect them to think it's anything other than a modern version of astrology" www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity_17.html?m=1
@maxdeborde6772
@maxdeborde6772 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a enfp 4w3 this explains a lot thank you Jesus for making me this way 🙏
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching with us Max!
@axim08
@axim08 2 жыл бұрын
As a four, this was really healing to listen to.
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching with us friend! Praying for you and for continued healing in your life!
@BonjourJubilation
@BonjourJubilation 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a 4. I mean, I think I'm a 4. I took a couple of online tests and came out as 4. I read about 4 in Richard Rohr's book and it really resinated with me. Most of this talk felt exactly like me, all except the crying. When I think I should be crying, I don't cry. But when there's something I feel that no one else seems to feel, I sometimes cry. Of course, I do have a diagnosed mood disorder for which I take anti-depressants and mood-stabalizers. Also, can't seem to find a church where I feel I belong. I've stopped looking but I miss being part of a community.
@bloomthrive9179
@bloomthrive9179 6 жыл бұрын
@@slavenca I agree. I am a 4w5 too.
@abigailgex9782
@abigailgex9782 6 жыл бұрын
Clara Tenny don’t stop looking, God never stops looking after you.
@emilyo9131
@emilyo9131 5 жыл бұрын
I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. If you look at mormon.org and lds.org you can find more information. I love my church and I know it's true!
@SopranoVictoria
@SopranoVictoria 5 жыл бұрын
Me too!!! I believe that I’m a bit more of a balanced 4 but defiantly with a strong intellectual wing 5! I’ve had the EXACT same experience with crying and “fitting into” a church. I love the Lord though!!!
@bernadetteevans4117
@bernadetteevans4117 3 жыл бұрын
I came across this video by accident (even though I know there are no accidents) and I just cried. He’s also funny. Thank you for sharing this message. ❤️
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Bernadette!
@caitlinharper1633
@caitlinharper1633 4 жыл бұрын
This is so true. I needed this. I have played so many parts, personalities, and interests throughout my life that I have no idea who I am. I remember liking the red gummy bears as a child but telling others that the green ones were my favourite just so I could be different.
@cy_denl33
@cy_denl33 4 жыл бұрын
Love this video so much, really resonate with much of the themes. For me personally I do want to be special but it doesn’t mean I want to be *more* special than other people. And I don’t wear ‘unique clothes’ or whatnot because I think I’m better than everyone else, I’m doing it bc it matters to me. To me personally. (He didn’t say this in the video but that’s what I tend to hear other people tend to say about 4s.) I don’t know why people tend to think that’s so controversial. But about the fearing being basic part, eh. I don’t know that I care about being basic. like, I drink Starbucks coffee and pumpkin spice lattes, for example. I don’t care about being a so-called, “basic white girl.” I think that label is harmful. You shouldn’t be made to feel dumb about what you wear or don’t wear, drink or don’t drink. If it’s harmful and/or is a stumbling block to others (i.e. wearing revealing clothing), maybe reconsider what you’re doing. But not because you fear being “basic.” People should be free to be able to do whatever they want and not made to feel dumb for it.
@warcraftaddict117
@warcraftaddict117 Жыл бұрын
PASTOR MATT: As someone formerly deceived by the New Age, I wanted lovingly to ask, how much you know about the New Age and that people view this enneagram as the answer to 'who they truly are' and how they view this at its root in the occult as an enlightenment to 'godhood'? I highly encourage you to research more about the "cosmic" connection and origin of the enneagram. When I try to share this with people who are unfamiliar with the new age or are so steeped in both the new age and Christianity, they don't even want to discuss anything "bad" or perceptively 'bad' about the enneagram because they believe they found the Truth that helped them understand who they are...rather than the scripture. I hope that as a pastor you would find this disconcerting that people would rather be explained by the enneagram rather than digging further into scripture to understand who they are.
@4N35N4
@4N35N4 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this uplifting sermon. I've only found negative things written or spoken about 4's. And while I do understand that we have our flaws, tendencies, and eccentricities, it didn't help much to read/see that we are viewed in such a negative light and a hindrance to others. We are already so insecure about who we are and what's lacking ..that... that kind of confirmation did more bad than good. Listening to you speak, however, gave me strength to accept who I am and take the necessary steps to be the healthier, happier version of myself that I know I can be.
@Nerdosaurous
@Nerdosaurous 5 жыл бұрын
I am a 4 and I can attest to being 7 years old and playing soccer, but being far more interested in the ladybugs on the field than in actually playing the game XD Thank you for this series, I really needed the reminder to not let myself be ruled by my emotions, especially my envy. so thankful that God led me to this video
@crazyleaf257
@crazyleaf257 5 жыл бұрын
Praise the Lord I have had so much Christian discipleship I think I am a mature Christian four. However I still long after what I don’t have specifically romance
@ndivhoramavhona7552
@ndivhoramavhona7552 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I finally found a Christian way of explaining this. God bless you mighty.
@radnerb
@radnerb 3 жыл бұрын
I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram. Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
@anothermanicfriday
@anothermanicfriday 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a 4 INFP-T and my name means helmeted chief. This was so encouraging and timely. Thank you for the upload.
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@juliemcmanus3556
@juliemcmanus3556 Жыл бұрын
I have the same combination of INFP and type 4. I have to work hard not to become isolated- mentally and spiritually. Do you have this struggle?
@luvinyo524
@luvinyo524 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you ……. Tested as a #4 … …. This explains it very well ……. Cried also as I often feel as though I’m different and forgotten … … As though I never fitted in various jobs/ positions I’ve had …
@chwayitayose845
@chwayitayose845 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is powerful and so helpful. Thank you so much Pastor 🙏.
@radnerb
@radnerb 3 жыл бұрын
I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram. Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).
@artsifam2761
@artsifam2761 10 ай бұрын
I love this. I have 4s in my life. I have shared this with them.
@Butterflies-are-free
@Butterflies-are-free 4 жыл бұрын
I cry every time I listen to this! ❤️
@QuietAngel29
@QuietAngel29 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm... while I definitely can draw a strong lesson from Saul’s envy and subsequent downfall, I always personally found a stronger connection with the story of Joseph. I feel like he is a more rounded, solid 4. He pretty much fits the bill of “the romantic /individualist” more readily than Saul.
@EmilynWood
@EmilynWood 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought David was the 4 because of the Psalms he wrote. Lots of mood swings. Maybe Saul and David were both 4s.
@ingridalves6536
@ingridalves6536 5 жыл бұрын
Je is à seven. A lot of different interests he had.
@andrewcramer9200
@andrewcramer9200 4 жыл бұрын
The numbers are arbitrary, having no scientific basis. Trying to pigeonhole people is a waste of time.
@JAYNONYMOUS-99
@JAYNONYMOUS-99 4 жыл бұрын
David is a four
@tylerandnicole2837
@tylerandnicole2837 5 жыл бұрын
Loved this! Cried lots, thank you for all the enlightenment! Only thing I felt was different (lol my 4 coming out) was since I'm a 4w3 I sometimes actually enjoy leading and winning, as it makes me feel unique and set apart from others.
@katiakatiakat
@katiakatiakat 2 жыл бұрын
Taking a little poll… As an Enneagram 4, What is your Moon sign in astrology?? Feel free to add your wing and subtype also! :) Thank you 🙏🏽
@kowieswart2235
@kowieswart2235 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. after searching so long. I cried for the whole sermon. Thank you.
@Sanj_e
@Sanj_e 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up Christian but avoided Christianity because I never felt they were authentic. But this really has made me appricate Christianity. Thank you. 😊 Im a 4w5 💕
@abigailgex9782
@abigailgex9782 6 жыл бұрын
Being comfortable in depression and hating labels! Sums it up (not actually bc I’m unique but😉)
@jameenicoleandjaysondeloss3792
@jameenicoleandjaysondeloss3792 2 жыл бұрын
not halfway thru the video yet & im already crying 😭😭🤣🤣
@laurenpalmer491
@laurenpalmer491 5 жыл бұрын
I thought I was a 9 but am I a 4? The biggest similarity I see is having my opinion not get noticed and not wanting to lead. Has anyone else gotten the 9 and 4 mixed up?
@tammzenn
@tammzenn 5 жыл бұрын
YES! I thought I was a 9 initially too... but I did test after test and now I embrace being a 4 (actually a 4w5)... Kinda feel like Eeyore all the time!
@amymarissa7765
@amymarissa7765 4 жыл бұрын
YES !!! absolutely! I feel like I haven’t seen people mistype with these two as common! I really thought I was a 9 but have done so much research and introspective inflection to come to the conclusion that I’m a 4w3 :-)) Much love!!
@amymarissa7765
@amymarissa7765 4 жыл бұрын
reflection** lol
@addie2747
@addie2747 4 жыл бұрын
Baby Yoda im a 435
@andrewcramer9200
@andrewcramer9200 4 жыл бұрын
skepticsplay.blogspot.com/2009/08/experiments-and-enneagrams.html?m=1 "The more I look into it, the more it seems like all of the personalities match, to varying degrees. But if I look carefully, all of them also have things which I think are totally wrong." "Another odd thing about the descriptions, is that several of them talk about feelings which we are unaware of. Gee, if I'm unable to discern my own feelings, I hardly expect a personality test based on numerology to know any better. I wonder. What would happen if I just took all the green text from my experiment, and created a new personality number 10? That would totally fit me much better than any of the other types!" The Enneagram is an invalid tool. And "tritype" just proves how invalid it is if you can continually make up new rules due to inconsistencies and contradictions. For being such an "ancient wisdom tool" (which it is not ancient), it sure seems to have made a lot of excuses and (ineffective) adjustments to try and hide its inaccuracies.
@kasupuumoms
@kasupuumoms 4 жыл бұрын
Meeen, I love this. I'm a 4 and I totally resonate and I have watched the notebook a hundred and I still wail like the 1st time :-D
@brianmorgan4627
@brianmorgan4627 3 жыл бұрын
Going back through this series it was so good. 9/5/2021. Finding out how I’ve changed in Jesus.
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Brian!
@weeeiming
@weeeiming 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a 4 but I play sports. Just not so much in a over competitive way but appreciate the form and style
@whatdoyousaycharityj2433
@whatdoyousaycharityj2433 6 жыл бұрын
I’m a 4 but I love a good brand! 😂 Just might be a really hippy brand that most people don’t know about. I love aesthetics and that comes with loving brands. Just had to put that out there!
@daringgreatly8473
@daringgreatly8473 6 жыл бұрын
whatdoyousayCharityJ I agree. We love aesthetics. Often at work their offices will be decorated, homes decorated and clothes all matching their identity.
@matthewmichaelmoschella9548
@matthewmichaelmoschella9548 5 жыл бұрын
This dude is PREACHIN'!!
@Itslalajamera
@Itslalajamera 5 жыл бұрын
My dude he knows the notebook I literally cry every time I see the notebook too 😭😭
@10ikehawk
@10ikehawk 3 жыл бұрын
"If you don't get control of your emotions (Enneagram 4s), you will throw spears at the ones you love." Wowsers.
@sandalschurch
@sandalschurch 3 жыл бұрын
Pastor Matt dropped some gems in this one! Praying for you today friend.
@wesleytoehay
@wesleytoehay 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I needed this! INFP 4-w9,5
@lonihanson9124
@lonihanson9124 Жыл бұрын
If you guys notice your views going up…. One by one…. I am telling everyone about these sermons and the enneagram. There is no one that has made it so clear and so beautiful and also accountable at the same time. I have these on repeat and I just understand a lot of people better so far. Lots of compassion! I have 2 brother in laws that are 3’s and that video is craccccking me up bc they are hard….. and I am prob a 4 and wing 3 and that is why I can see their flaws so well bc I have them. But omg I love the laughs I get too! Soooo good! Sorry for the run on sentences but…I can’t help it 😂
@valblock2797
@valblock2797 Жыл бұрын
I was caught up in this enneagram stuff for a few years. It’s enticing, and it feels affirming. This is dangerous doctrine. The scriptures are all we need. God and His Word are sufficient. Please run from these things. They are rooted in the occult. We all need the true gospel. We cannot find the answers within ourselves. I’m telling you this because I was deceived for a long time, and I deeply regret recommending g this videos to loved ones. It is not good. Beware. This pastor needs to repent. Lots of bad theology coming from the pulpit.
@FeliciaFollum
@FeliciaFollum 6 жыл бұрын
This is good timing to relisten to this lol I was picked to be the champion for a specific missions project we are working on and I felt so inadequate. I typed my notes up yesterday, will present today and then tell the church the decision in two weeks...I kinda had been running from this though I had been asked before. I'm sure I'll comment on this video again 😂
@jennifercalderon3626
@jennifercalderon3626 6 жыл бұрын
God equips the called, be encouraged!
@FeliciaFollum
@FeliciaFollum 6 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Calderon thank you ❤️🖤
@SpicePrincess1890
@SpicePrincess1890 4 жыл бұрын
Me, crying histerically while listening to this sermon: "Hmm. It's somewhat, kind of, sort of accurate I supoose."
@tracyreadytv
@tracyreadytv 4 жыл бұрын
Honey me too.... ugly cry. Bawling. Can't breath lol
@pain2purpose68
@pain2purpose68 4 жыл бұрын
Not too familiar w enegram but I’ve gotten four and two before and I think six But I’m struggling to love myself and to see myself how God does
@andrewcramer9200
@andrewcramer9200 4 жыл бұрын
Don't turn to the Enneagram for that, the Bible is enough. Also note we are not told to love ourselves (beyond our needs for food and stuff, that is what "love your neighbor as yourself" means, help others who have those basic physical needs), Jesus tells us to deny ourselves and follow Him. We are to deny our true nature, not lie to ourselves that we have a "true self" and a "false self", as the Enneagram claims. Remember, Jesus said the greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God, and love your neighbor as yourself. He says "these two" commandments, not three. We are NOT commanded to "love ourselves" the way that New Age false teaching says. Remember Paul referred to himself as "chief" of sinners. This is our position, humility before God and each other but "zealous for good works". Let us not love with words or tongue, but with actions and in truth. There is no truth in the Enneagram or its underlying theories. christiananswersforthenewage.org/Articles_Enneagram.html
@raniak2277
@raniak2277 4 жыл бұрын
Love this and love that I am a 4 - thanks for doing this
@AimeeAmaris
@AimeeAmaris 5 жыл бұрын
came straight for my life man 😭😭😭
@shellisands7904
@shellisands7904 4 жыл бұрын
I cut off all my labels regardless...😉. Thank you..!. beautiful talk. VERY correct generally I'd say! The envy isn't always that true...I feel instantly quite drawn in by another super creative soul actually, intrigued... curious...like tribal somehow. Totally lights me up. 💜🙏. I REALLY appreciate this..impacted me deeply.😭☺️💓🧚👽🙏.
@burnbabylonburn78
@burnbabylonburn78 3 жыл бұрын
You might be a healthier 4; that may be why you don’t seem to struggle with envy as much.😉
@dazzlingchong
@dazzlingchong 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Ps Matt for this liberating truth for us 4s. The truth that we know sets us free. We matter.
@FeliciaFollum
@FeliciaFollum 6 жыл бұрын
haha I have a hand sewn shirt that I printed the design on in a block printing studio in Delhi and then sewn by a village person in West Bengal from an art class I took in India...
@latoyiab79
@latoyiab79 3 жыл бұрын
Feeling some type of way. Having a really 4 moment. Had to come back, needed to be uplifted 😏 most videos make me depressed being a type 4...but this 1 does the opposite. Grateful. Side note I am a middle child. I recently read 1 Samuel, never understood why Saul was so jealous until now. Wow.
@slk8674
@slk8674 6 жыл бұрын
High functioning four with a one bend :) Warned! This is amazing so glad I found the channel! One of the best Preachers out there too. All I watch is Furtick and the like, so wow I can’t believe it took so long to find this! I finally stayed for the worship at the end and do forgive the oneness now, I just love these videos and the church so I’m owning it a bit too much maybe. I’m not sure why the soprano has the background position and is the one with the melody. Not sure why the alto has the lead. The sound is perfect live at my church but, man, I can’t watch the worship online live, so I get that the boards don’t transfer maybe. But wow that power tenor is off the wall amazing. Just gotta lower his volume or blend him in more. 😬😬😬😬 haha. I’m so glad you embrace the ones!!!!
@LuisRamos-we1kt
@LuisRamos-we1kt 5 жыл бұрын
This was great. Thank you. I'm a 4 and do wish I wasn't.
@NaturalKachi
@NaturalKachi 6 жыл бұрын
Watching from Nigeria. I don't miss your videos. I did the enneagram test and I'm a 5.i can't wait for the video on5
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