Bryce Dessner, Raphael - Ensemble intercontemporain

[@stephenjablonsky1941]

Beauty is in the ear of the beholder. Some will love this music while others will find it boring or even annoying. The 20th century left us wondering what it is that we consider to be music. For hundreds of years we all knew what music was supposed to do in the European tradition. Now the sky is the limit. This is a piece that Bryce derived from a game in his mind. Watching him tickle his guitar made me wonder what life is all about.

[@flyaway6646]

Art is the very exsistence itself, experienced through 5 senses. Indeed if we look at it from the perspective of god the creator we are art inside an art. A variable value let's say. There is no limit in structure and form, since the creation of god is vast and infinite and always changing.

[@JudgeFredd]

Beautiful

[@lucasbretels]

I love this piece! Thanks for sharing. Merci.

[@agustinavarece]

Oh my god. I'm sorry i can't watch pretty much of the video because my eyes's will is to remain closed . Healing.

[@janh1215]

Sorry but this is in the mold of most ambient / new age music out there. Earcandy, not bad, but almost instantaneously forgottable.

[@jtchapman01]

Beautiful piece

[@marcellodantedealmeidanune9445]

A presença do autor em parceria com Chistelle nas guitarras, deu um toque especial nessa apresentação sob a batuta do competente Pintscher. Uma bela e criativa obra "minimalista" contemporânea.

[@victorgrauer5834]

Ah yes, the screwdriver handle on the guitar string. How intercontemporianian.

[@barbarasmith6005]

Every orchestra should have a screw driver handle on the guitar string.

[@flyaway6646]

It was done by GY!BE first.

[@inspirationallife8344]

On ne sent pas que le compositeur s est depasse pour ecrire ca. Dommage qu il y ait tant de compositeurs peu connu du public qui meriterait la chance de travailler avec un orchestre de ce calibre

[@meussieu460]

Putain y'a des trolls même ici... Monde de merde... À moins que ça soit un vrai débile... Ce qui est tout aussi triste.

[@dallexandro]

a modest thing...

[@AntonKuznetsovMusic]

Have to mention that the image quality is exceptional in this one. Who shot the video and did the editing?

[@ensembleinter]

Thanks ! shooting and editing was made by David Ctiborsky for the Blogothèque

[@spcfsu1]

Les musiciens s'ennuient comme des rats morts, et nous avec. On dirait littéralement une pièce d'un étudiant en composition qui n'a jamais écouté de musique contemporaine de sa vie, mais essaie de rajouter quelques effets dans une musique platement tonale pour donner le change. Quelle chance une telle pièce aurait-elle d'être jouée par un ensemble aussi prestigieux si le compositeur n'était pas le guitariste de The National ?

[@muslit]

pierre is rolling in his grave

[@Woolookologie]

Yes, he probably wouldn't have enjoyed this... but I do for sure!

[@Baribrotzer]

I don't know - by the end of his life, he probably realized that the serialism he championed was bound to give rise to a reaction, because all artistic movements do. And the biggest reaction was classical Minimalism - a back-to-basics movement as extreme as serialism.

[@mmmuscraft5558]

Baribrotzer exactly! this is why this stuff is so anachronistic and by the same token uninteresting. I prefer Steve Reich for that matter. I do not see why Music for 18 musicians would be some sort of "back to basics". Boulez was at a very high standard of musicianship, I do not think anyone here could even try to stand and reach. If this guy here was of the caliber of any of the main serialist figures, Stockhausen, Nono, Babbitt, Berio, and of course Boulez, or of any of the main figures of Minimalism such as Glass, Young, Adams, and Riley we would already know. This is merely anecdotical, just as so many things happening around the contemporary production of the late few years.

[@psijicassassin7166]

Boulez hated the repetitiveness Minimailism glorifies, and the prepared sounds of John Cage who he hated. Thank you for desecrating that demagogue's lifelong principles and memory. Hats off, EI!

[@4980cbs]

@@BaribrotzerMinimalism is basically stupid, repetitive and cloying, good for people with no brain to really enjoy great music. Sorry.

[@sammyll08]

It just does not work and nothing to really catch our memory afterwards. (Ironically, the most interesting (very short) passages are without the electric guitar.)

[@MarkDarnell-cq2wy]

Honestly - for an ensemble that has been associated with Boulez, Dutilleaux, Varese, Messiaen, and even Frank Zappa - this static Fog music must be Mind-numbing!

[@jesusmauryvargas8971]

I'm sorry to be the 421th like on this video -that surely breaks something, it's 04/20/2020- but this is seriously amazing!

[@elvislives-gl4rv]

I thought they were just tuning up for the real performance....

[@williamyonts4428]

Absolutely incredible! Every second of the piece was so emotional, and the video itself is beautifully shot. Well done!

[@kokomanation]

B flat but great ambience Bryce Dessner is a genius

[@louischen89]

ooooooooooooo it's not atonal! Rare contemporary pieces that does have a musical tone to it! Impressive performance for both, gives me this kind of vibe!

[@tomweast844]

excellent

Wonderful piece, wonderful atmospheres and wonderful performance. Bravo Bryce!!!

[@sinisterbotanist]

it's just post rock with orchestral coloration. snore.

[@joeboonmusic4004]

I think you're listening to a very strange form of rock... I'll take this any day over Boulez of Stockhausen. This is actually enjoyable to listen to.

[@michaelpowell7120]

WHAT? The music is snob nazi but "post rock with orchestral coloration" WOW. That out snobs that.

[@sinisterbotanist]

@@michaelpowell7120 oh right sorry. shoulda said "repetitive clean guitars plus orchestra parts" to avoid sounding bourgeois lmao

[@sinisterbotanist]

@@michaelpowell7120 top rate rhetoric, thanks

[@Sssvvvgggwww]

I really like this.

[@karimaijala7039]

It starts like Quattro Pezzi by Scelsi, doesn't it? :)

[@spcfsu1]

Except Scelsi is way more interesting, and composed Quattro Pezzi 60 years ago.

[@rogan1521]

Good observation man! :)

[@bowty_mcboatface]

Hey all you "cultured" geniuses: the emperor has no clothes.

[@219710704]

I need that screwdriver!

[@Arthur94]

pièce envoutante, très beau

[@machida5114]

minimal

[@thewomanwithnohead]

La perfection.

[@ensembleinter]

Merci !

[@franckmousset4022]

"La perfection" pour les oreilles sans exigence.

[@MrJameschance]

non mais n'importe quoi

[@franckmousset4022]

Franchement sans intérêt.

[@Badmintonforall]

sauf pour le "compositeur" car je suis prêt à parier que c'est une "commande publique", payée avec l'argent des contribuables...

[@psijicassassin7166]

Boulez hated the repetitiveness Minimailism glorifies, and the prepared sounds of John Cage who he hated. Thank you for desecrating that demagogue's lifelong principles and memory. Hats off, EI!

[@dieterammann4]

Boulez didn’t hate Cage.

[@shnimmuc]

A bore

[@alexisporfiriadis]

Bad. Tasteless. Boring.

[@psijicassassin7166]

It sells more tickets than any Boulez piece though.

[@alexisporfiriadis]

@@psijicassassin7166 so does madona but that is irrelevant... The piece is bad and boring

[@georgemalefakis1961]

bad, very bad..

[@ianguyver8686]

woah - Part Glass Richter scale ;)

[@Cleekschrey]

lol

[@szn1747]

so boring

[@wolfgangboulez2056]

Why on earth is Ensemble Intercomtemporain playing this uninteresting tonal kitsch? Pierre Boulez must be turning in his grave at his ensemble playing such mediocre music composed by a guy who only gets all these big commissions as a 'classical composer' because he's a famous and successful rock musician...

[@john-johnjohn-john]

Tout à fait d'accord. Le passage à 10:26 (ou 17:30 ou...) est particulièrement confondant de nullité (c'est la musique de quelle série TV, ça ?). Je ne veux pas enfoncer davantage ce compositeur, mais l'EIC ou plutôt le choix de Matthias Pintscher, oui ! Matthias Pintscher peut être très bon (cf. son interprétation de Lachenmann "Vor der Erstarrung"). Mais son éclectisme conduit à des choix parfois nullissimes. Il y a plein de jeunes compositeurs excellents à l'IRCAM, au CNSM, dans les conservatoires de Région ou bien sûr à l'étranger en attente d'exposition... L'excellence des musiciens de l'EIC doit servir le renouvellement musical, pas la médiocrité ambiante !

[@Arnoldiepin]

Hahahaha damn straight

[@JazzGuitarScrapbook]

(frank zappa?)

[@JazzGuitarScrapbook]

I love Zappa BTW, but couldn't resist.

[@joeboonmusic4004]

Maybe because they want an audience? Maybe because Boulez did more harm than good with his musical dictatorship. And maybe because Bryce Dessner is a talented young composer... I love the way you use 'tonal' as a means to renounce this music. First of all, 'tonal music' is a term used by you average avante-garde snob who wants to seem in the know... When anything is tonal, as long as it has two pitches. Boulez is tonal. Second of all, you may be looking for the term 'diatonic'... Who gives a shit if this music is diatonic? Philip Glass, Arvo Pärt, Nico Muhly etc write modern, diatonic music and they get played all over the world. I'm not saying that something being popular makes it quality... But their music gets studied all over the world. I should know, I go to the RCM. The sooner the classical world gets rid of snobs like you, the better, as composers will stop being self conscious about writing whatever the fuck they want. Then we'll let the public decide what they listen to. I guarantee the majority would rather enjoy a performance.

[@adelyapuspita9728]

Beautiful