entering the rooneyverse

[@tylerbailey7094]

your ability to remember pretty much every thing that happens in a book always amazes me

[@frankiesshelf]

i take notes!! i have the worst memory honestly

[@MyNameIsConnieB]

i read the last 100 pages of conversations with friends on the train and i got so angry at the last line i had to put the book down and close my eyes so i didnt throw it across the carriage! i gave it 5 stars

[@dayoolorunnisola162]

My show is onnnn

[@wompwomp9946]

girl same😂

[@the_eerie_faerie_tales]

I don't know if I've said this already under a different video! but I love the way you speak about books. Here before you hit 150k subs 😊

[@killuas13]

I loved Normal People and was so immersed in the character's thought processes, but I was also veryyy frustrated by the end. I also felt that the gestures were intentional and each detail was purposeful. I sometimes get bored when books ramble and go on random tangents and that never happened w this book.

[@dumiile]

i would just like to say you’re one of the best booktubers out there. you have great energy and taste and you seem like such a great person ily

[@annaissodone]

this video is made for audience of 1 and it is me. thank you!

[@onionpixel]

omg i was so excited to know ur opinion on intermezzo!! im also more into psychological thriller and weird storylines (i just finished the moustache which i got recommended from your video) so i wasnt expecting to like intermezzo that much, but something about the characters that got me attached to them and kept me going throughout the book

[@yeribestgirl2657]

omg new frankie vid. i am so getting cozy tonight

[@spark5149]

i read b2b sally rooney novels after loving normal people(the book) and binged all of her other books afterwards. i felt the exact same way . . i couldn’t even finish intermezzo. so thank you frankie for your service i was kind curious how it ended.

[@itmedana]

i’m so thrilled to be watching this video, practically jumping for joy, gonna be really annoying and write my thoughts out as i go because i already know i’m gonna have so much to say - i liked conversations with friends but was never obsessed with it and the way you talk about it is seriously making me want to reread. i first read it at the end of my senior year of high school and i think i would have such a different perspective four years removed from that. i remember feeling so caught off guard by frances and bobbi’s relationship toward the end of the book because throughout the book i grew to legitimately hate bobbi so much. i thought she was mean and selfish and a bad friend and had so few redeeming qualities esp in regard to her and frances’ friendship and then when they were suddenly in love again i was like what!!! huh!!!! felt like i had been reading the entire thing wrong. i’m desperately curious if that opinion would change on a reread, bc from what i remember most people didn’t seem to feel that way about her. idk man! - that scene in normal people outside at the debs is also one of my favorites of the entire book!! just such a gut punch. she’s so good at making u care so much about these people and their little lives ahhhhhh. normal ppl is by far my favorite of her books, i reread it maybe twice a year i just think it’s a perfect character study and every time i get something new out of it. always so fascinating to hear other people’s interpretations of connell bc he’s my “no other character in the history of fiction has ever been a more accurate representation of the inner workings of my brain” guy 🫣 kind of embarrassing given “worst communicator of all time” but what can i say! totally 1000000% agree abt the ending. the show is a close to perfect adaptation but the one thing i think it does significantly better is removing the stuff abt the girl at the magazine that connell talks to about applying for new york. i always find that jealousy dynamic sooo beyond irritating and unnecessary at this point in their relationship. i so so enjoyed hearing u talk about this one!! - you haven’t started talking yet but sooooo curious to hear your beautiful world thoughts. the longer i sit with it the more i hate hate hate it!! insane to me how much range this woman has in her writing lmao. okay, totally agree abt the lacking character dynamics. and yes the screenplay feeling!! so strange. hated the emails as a reading experience even though i found many of them interesting on their own. weird weird weird strange. i feel like i could never figure out why this book didn’t work for me but you are explaining it all perfectly. - LMAO your beginning thoughts of intermezzo made me laugh. so so so glad we agree abt the writing of peter’s sections. i saw so many people being all like “blergh blagrhh its a literally device!! ☝️🤓” I DONT CARE! your sentences have to have a subject in them! SORRY! i have nothing against playing with the english language but like come ON, my head shouldn’t be hurting because your prose is indecipherable. have you read any ali smith? i tried to after hearing nothing but praise for her and really didn’t click with her writing, and i felt like this sounded a lot like hers does. totally agree about miss rooney’s intentions evading you. i think one of the things i hated abt beautiful world is that feeling being completely absent. esp in the email sections, it just felt so preachy and like a megaphone for her own opinions and i do not care for that shit! loved this video so much obviously. i’ve never written a youtube comment this long and probably never will again, i’ll be shocked and surprised if you read all of this but i simply had to express my joy at hearing u talk abt these books 🫡

[@bixiella7830]

me and miss rooney have an interesting relationship. normal people and beautiful world, where are you left me honestly indifferent. conversations with friends though!!! related SO HARD, spoke to my soul and i read it in less than 24 hours SO excited to watch this videoo🧡🧡

[@inayahali212]

i gasped when i saw this in my subscriptions, what a perfect gift.

[@ChanelChapters]

I am in awe Of your knitting skills 🧶

[@ria7a]

New video dropped and now my morning is 10x better thanks

[@itmedana]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!! TURN IT UP!!!

[@roxanacatalina3524]

Yaaaasss 👏 I haven't even started watching this, but I know this will be an amazing video

[@cepaeanemoralisoffline]

i just went to the library to borrow Ghost Wall by Sarah Moss because of you! What a delight to come back and find the new video - I'm exciteeed!!

[@frankiesshelf]

i love to hear this let me know what you think of it

[@talentnegative]

you're so good at this

[@nahhan90]

I love the haircut! Also thank you for this, it’s like listening to sally Rooney in fast forward!

[@CarmillaKnits]

Looooved this video, although I can imagine how intense it must be to read Rooney's work back to back lol. It's so interesting to me how I' ve had almost a complete opposite reaction to Intermezzo, I loved it and I think it's her best work. You explained your reasoning really well though and it has made me analyse my own opinions of the book even more, which is awesome! If you'll indulge me I'll leave some of my thoughts here but it's very long so sorry about that lol, no worries if you don't read it! 💜 I agree with you that Peter is insufferable lmao, but I think the stylistic choices of his written pov suit his characterization really well. He's so incredibly stuck in his ways, in his ideas about masculinity and relationships, his grief about his father and Sylvia, and throughout the novel he just keeps digging these neural pathways in his brain deeper and deeper lol. All this is reflected in this very blunt, almost rythmic stream of consciousness. It truly felt like I was stuck in his head while reading, which admittedly is a very unpleasant place to be. Ivan, on the other hand, is extremely analytical and kinda nuanced in hisways thinking to the point of it being annoying and 'stuck' in a different type of way, like a vicious cycle. So his sections being written in a more 'formal' tradition style makes sense to me. I won't make sweeping generalisations about the way Rooney depicted an autistic-coded character because it's such a nuanced topic, but I'm a (recently diagnosed) autistic girlie with a veryyy similar relationship with an older sibling, and I found Ivan's portrayal - specificaly the way his thought process is written - extremely relatable. I think Rooney did a pretty good job at digging a little deeper and humanizing a character that could have easily just been the socially inept chess genius that Peter has convinced himself his little brother is. But I do wish there had been more concrete evidence in the novel about Rooney's research or experience with neurodivergent people. One last thing I'd like to add about Peter's ending: I definitely understand finding Peter's 'awakening' from his depression corny, but I read it in a very similar way as the moment you described about Connor's anxiety about being seen with Marianne and the reveal that his friends knew he the whole time. Peter is so stuck in his head and his anxieties about the two women he loves, he's completely incapacitated by it. But then it turns out it's actually not a big deal at all and that Sylvia and Naomi are both cool with each other and are willing to make an arrangement, and Peter's anxieties and this 'prison' he has built up in his head just all fall away. It is melodramatic for sure lol, but I found it sort of funny or endearing, just the irony of it all.

[@frankiesshelf]

honestly i agree with pretty much everything you’ve said here!! i liked the stylistic choice of peters narrative voice and i think she did the blunt / choppy writing very well. from an objective standpoint i totally understand that decision and it’s done very well. SUBJECTIVELY i just personally hate hate hate reading that style of writing lmaoo

[@frankiesshelf]

also please always feel free to leave your thoughts whenever i love long comments

[@CarmillaKnits]

@frankiesshelf totally understand that! 🫶🏽 and you explained it super well in the video! I have a discussion with my book club about Intermezzo soon so you gave me lots of stuff to think about yaaaayy

[@CarmillaKnits]

@frankiesshelf 🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@stellafolwarska4216]

ok but when is the wardrobe tour dropping bc Im obsessed with those sweaters

[@oof2672]

watching this while working on a scrap yarn freehand crochet poncho :0) yayy so excited!!

[@jerichomoore3221]

I clicked this video so fast! So happy we get a sally rooney review from you!

[@butimbetterthantony]

I was so waiting for your views on sally rooney.

[@josiet3845]

needed this today thank you

[@kseeyaa]

as someone who read normal people and conversations with friends I find them so different

[@pebble3951]

the mullet is cute! good video as always i have to check out conversations with friends after that review❤️❤️

[@deedeedan8681]

Oh thank god i was left with my thoughts for too long

[@lindsaydentonsfringe4934]

thank you! exact same thoughts on intermezzo! i want to love sally rooney but that one put me off her other novels

[@frankiesshelf]

i promise her other ones are better! but she might just not be for you

[@leicean]

So perfect for today my work scheduled me really late in the day today and I have more time than expected and didn’t know what to do with myself now haha!! I shall put this on while I do chores. Thanks!!

[@manateemadness2234]

I almost want to reread the books before Intermezzo, though I am worried I will see all of the flaws I never saw before, I remember Normal People VERY fondly. Intermezzo was also a slog for me for many reasons, though I want to talk about Peter. While you touched on Ivan pretty obviously being on the spectrum, something I'm not sure everyone might pick up on is that Peter most likely has BPD (that being, Borderline Personality Disorder, not Bipolar). This is a personality disorder that's not really talked about as much as, say, narcissism or APD, so if you don't already know the thought patterns it creates and how this manifests into behavior it might not be easy to spot. To summarize, BPD is a mood disorder that is characterized by a crippling, near paranoia level of fear of abandonment, extreme mood swings, impulsive behavior (including extremely volatile romantic relationships), and a lack of a clear sense of self. What made ME pick up on this is how quickly and insanely Peter spirals in BOTH directions, whether that be him thinking "Wow I think Sylvia loves me again, life is really great after all" and kind of riding that high, to other times where one bad thing happens to him and he goes into "I am completely fucking worthless my life is a joke, nobody loves me, all I do is torture those that want to love me, I really should just kill myself." I think normally in order to be diagnosed with BPD, you need some kind of trauma, whether that be an abusive or neglectful parent or household, maybe being a social outcast from an extremely young age, that kind of thing where you as a child don't really get the chance to experience what healthy relationships look like and how to regulate your own emotions. This all sounds like "oh yeah everyone feels these things," but for people diagnosed with BPD EVERY emotion is just the MOST EXTREME manifestation, nothing is casual, everything is the biggest deal and you just flip flop between the highest highs and the lowest lows within hours, minutes even. This is not to excuse Peter's behavior, there are a lot of times where he acts completely fucking insane, but if you are not aware you have BPD, and thus don't know how to regulate your own emotions and navigate around them, it is really really easy to just spiral and act without thinking rationally. As someone with BPD, I hated, HATED the way Peter acted because it reminds me of myself at my absolute worst. While Ivan's awkwardness was also mad relatable, I saw wayyyy too much of myself in Peter, which kind of made me hate him and myself lmao, but maybe this can give you some insight into WHY he is the way he is. EDIT: also just wanted to say I fucking hated the "and they all lived happily ever after" ending to Intermezzo as well. I don't really know how I personally would have done it, but GOD dude I just closed the book thinking "wait are you for fucking real, THAT'S IT? everything just magically works out in the end?" Man it was rough. I didn't HATE the book but it was definitely my least favorite Rooney book. Ending was a big part of that.

[@dreadpersephone]

have been curious about Rooney because of the hype, but would probably never read her. very much happy to hear your thoughts.

[@omalleysmith9100]

I thank you for reading these so that I don’t have to. I’ve tried with Normal People and just could not get into it at all. I need to get engaged right from the first chapter or I’m out. 😅

[@frankiesshelf]

i wish i had the strength to quit books when they’re not working for me i always push through and then regret it . there’s too many books and not enough time to be doing that

[@boatsagainst]

Wondering if Sally Rooney comes from a religious background, well that's all of Ireland. It's a very conservative country where wether you are religious or not, the weight Catholic church cannot be escaped. Which is why even something as common as divorce can be a scandal in a smaller community like the one where Margaret lives. And although leftist politics have been on the rise in the past 10+ years and the role of religion in people's lives has decreased, a concept like an open relationship can still be very radical in the Irish society.

[@frankiesshelf]

fair enough lol. i guess there’s a bit of a disconnect there for me because her characters have such strongly leftist political opinions and worldviews, so there’s this huge contrast between that and the pretty puritanical views of sex that position themselves as revolutionary

[@michaelcallaghan1989]

I'm also just like Ivern in that I dated women that were much older than me in my early 20s.

[@Emer44ude]

ahh i didn’t know this had so much spoilers

[@anegg.5837]

I am sat.

[@the_eerie_faerie_tales]

let's see if Frankie survives the Rooneyverse 😲😆

[@NicoleKelly-y8q]

I never read Sally Rooney's book. Which of her books do you recommend?

[@NicoleKelly-y8q]

in return, I also offer a cool new story I just found :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oorKfaF4mdibaNk

[@frankiesshelf]

i liked conversations with friends the most!

[@ninakenda]

I didn‘t read sally rooney until intermezzo but after all that hype it left mi disappointed.. i just feel like the book isnt really deep enough if it makes sense - i was just thankful when the book was over😂but thats just me (although i could relate to ivan tho)

[@frankiesshelf]

if i had started with intermezzo i would’ve been so confused about the hype surrounding her work

[@ninakenda]

@ haha fair! I‘m not interested in her anymore😭i also don‘t like the writing style where you have to figure out when somebody says something😔🤚🏼

[@spookyratss]

have u always had a gold nose ring what i like it tho

[@frankiesshelf]

yes lol

[@TildaHansson-u9w]

I only liked Ivans chapters in intermezzo heheh

[@frankiesshelf]

at one point there’s two peter chapters in a row and i remember feeling like i was going to die

[@Sunlightprelude]

I own normal people but it's so fucking hard for me to read like idk maybe I'm too stupid but I just can't 😔

[@Sunlightprelude]

Well fuck now I kinda feel like I need to read it based on her other books...

[@ninbin34]

Is Conversation with friends the book better than the mini series? I tried watching the series for Jemima Kirke, but I got so bored with the dialogue and how vanilla it was. I found Taylor's ex to be so boring.

[@frankiesshelf]

i haven’t seen the miniseries so i don’t know for sure but i would say conversations with friends is her most interesting book

[@MatthueLoose]

stinky headphones haha *headphones in my ears full of earwax, hypocritical*

[@ExploringthWorld]

Intermezzo definitely could have benefited from a better editor. It was good, but it could have been spectacular with a good editor. Sorry to say.

[@steffikreis2030]

Watching this while taking a break from crying about a guy who doesnt like me back. Not sure if that’s therapist recommended but here i am.

[@elliannaallen4775]

mwahaha