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[@MarkLeel]

There’s nothing worse than a sibling that wastes their money and then feels entitled to yours.

[@sanae8473]

True

[@Jadae]

I felt like older bro and his gf may have been up to some methios or similar "cereal" 😉

[@Zalpha11]

Times like this make me glad I’m an only child

[@tarsalbutbetter8865]

Yeah fax

[@frederickpurcell7478]

@@hoohoo431 Exactly just show how dumb some people are !

[@samuelmesura936]

When she screamed at her dad saying "making both my mommies leave ", it felt like a big stone crushed my hearth

[@fitxfour1072]

Honestly.

[@stygiandragon3865]

Even Lizzy knows what is up. She acknowledged OP fully and this event crushed her so much, that she is starting to(understandably) hate her father without holding back.

[@LunaP1]

She realized how shitty her dad is and lashed out appropriately. Even his own family (brother) are telling him he's garbage for hurting Lizzie and OP all because things went south with his ex.

[@arthurwintersight7868]

The most savage comment in the whole video came from a little girl...

[@Icannotfindmybrain]

Can't be more true..

[@boluwatifeoderemi3461]

The dad is actually getting the equality he wants. Both kids now have been raised by one parent at some point in their lives

[@c.jishnu378]

Bruh, everybody is like serious.

[@BodyLanguageAnalysisInterrogat]

Good observation 😢HUSBAND potential NPD & OCPD WINS BATTLE & LOSSES THE WAR to EVERYONE'S detriment, especially children. Projection of his anger against his ex BPD wife, I bet husband has childhood trama: maybe husband was treated unfairly, or blacksheep and he doesn't want that for his daughter. (He also seems to have deep abandonment wounds, but his narricisim cannot allow wife to "win" despite it being better for ALL of them. He sounds like he has OCPD with All or Nothing thinking (they are obsessed with THEIR rules & fairness, even if it misses the point and hurts others or themselves.) His hurt EGO cannot get past the narricistic wound, seens he is using his daughter as an extension as himself, otherwise, he wouldn't cause this pain. IF husband has this idea again of wife staying home, it would have been fine. So sad. Maybe wife could concede something but doesn't seem like any downsides for her to work at home & care for both children. It seems like husband's idea of justice is more important than his children. It might be his fear of abandonment is causing self-sabotage & self-fulfilling prophecy. Eventually all painful memories will be gone. Rev 21:4 "And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away." This is a stretch, but in a very warped way his selfishness reminds me of Solomon and the two babies. 1 Kings 3:16-27

[@informationyes]

@evidentialism4412 But just your baseless assumption as based on everything we have she does care for the kid and the only issue here is he doesn't want her to stay home for work for a bit while their kids is young, Its perfectly plausible her story true

[@informationyes]

@evidentialism4412 By what's said in the story she loves the kid and the only complaint the father has is he doesn't like that she's wants to be a stay at home mum for a bit and their is no holes in this story so you doubting it is baseless, if you do that you may as well doubt the validity of every story on reddit. It is a common phenomenon that biological parents tend to have a stronger emotional bond with their biological children than with their stepchildren. This is because biological parents have a biological connection with their children, now the psychologist is of Couse just trying mediate but the relationship between a step parent and a step child isn't automatic full love just because they are raising them and really like them that's not how it works these emotional bonds take time to grow but with biological kid they are instant, so here it depends on how long she's been raising her but from what's said in the story she feels she loves this new step child. The psychologists attempt at mediation doesn't confirm anything so your just thinking the fathers right based on your biased take as its baseless, Like by doing this she literally have more time for the step child as well, fairness doesn't mean treating everyone exactly the same and here your forgetting she's didn't have to raise the step child from a baby because she's not the mother not to mention even if a family has two biological children you have to do things exactly the same to be fair or reasonable say a family has one child and can continue working but now with a second child or third child that might be too much and warrant a change in circumstances, so children have different treatment but due to circumstances not unfairness. The problem with the father here from this story is hes so protective of his child hes just not thinking at all.

[@informationyes]

@evidentialism4412 No I dont agree with the father and dont know how you came to that conclusion? I'm simply saying why the psychologist said what they said because it's true but that doesnt mean people cant develop strong bonds with an adopted child, not to mention even if the biological connection is stronger that doesnt mean a parent will treat on child differently nor unfairly, their plenty of perents that do that with their biological kids so it's a moral failing more than anything in the perent. Now again difference doesnt mean unfair, the fact is the circumstances for raising this new baby from birth is different than the circumstances of adopting this child but you refuse to grasp that.

[@ConnorPugs]

My favorite saying goes well with this story: “a fool and his money are soon parted”

[@MR.LYZ.]

Connor Love ur channel

[@SamboWambo]

E

[@resetezan9947]

E

[@petardj000]

Ay i watch ur vids too

[@7StarClips104]

The Henchmen

[@lionelmarcussolaris2858]

For the Second one: At first, he seemed to be just doing it for his daughter because he doesn't want to feel unfair and that's okay but he has to think that situations change. When he became stubborn, then it showed his true colors. He's not doing it for his daughter anymore. He's being stubborn for his pride. He wanted to feel and be right even if many people around his life already told him that he's not. If he really thought about his child,then he should have made more effort to change his ways instead of trying to control his wife.

[@Chaosking707]

But they made a decision together then she goes back on her word which is a reg flag

[@Wemby73]

@@Chaosking707 because she would be making a dumb decision if she didn’t set tide rules and now it makes since for her to

[@Crazy-Cat-Lady-of-CA]

​​@@Chaosking707he circumstances were different. They were not married and she had a career to build. Now she's married and can now work at home. Imagine how trapped OP would have been if she had given in and became a sahm with Lizzie without any financial backup.

[@TheSpiralAim]

We're only hearing one side of the story, the story is heavily flavored in one direction. It feels more like a full justification rather than a fair shake from both sides. I suspect we'd need to hear both sides of the story; and whoever the jerk is would be difficult.

[@sturus_ytb8704]

@@Crazy-Cat-Lady-of-CA yeah true but (english not first langage) for me stay at home mum will say just stop working ? and take care of the house work . why they cant just said that she can work from her home??????????? like this still working and she with her child

[@jonix24mejor]

last story reminds me of my dad, it doesn't matter who is right, it only matters that his whim is fulfilled to the letter, and if others are not "reasonable" with him, then it is their fault, not his, because he doesn't need to be reasonable.

[@devonation8348]

truthfully both have good and bad points and how was he controlling when they first got together he wanted her to be a stay at home mom but instead let her be what she wanted at the time and she worked the brother sounds like he wants her and there literally wasn’t a reason to say he’s hung up over his ex I don’t even see how you guys see the husband as controlling when you hear this story maybe desperate but honestly the controlling part goes more to the op she literally is saying my way or the highway and the fact that she’s making him go to therapy only to see her point and she’s not do the same is another flag she also puts divorce in his face and says manipulative things like like that through the story like when she say I’m scared for him holding they’re son and I think he might hurt him even though nothing she’s written gave any indication of harm or hate towards the baby even saying he definitely wants the baby just doesn’t want the baby to have special treatment which is fair but even her saying do you even want this baby is manipulative like she’s saying if you really want this baby you shouldn’t disagree with me so honestly does it really look like that cause I think you’re just holding resentment from your on father issues

[@AAD1128]

​​​@@devonation8348 the father is literally forcing her to put the kid in daycare versus her taking care of the baby herself. while they both work. She wants to raise the kid, and she has the opportunity. When they first met, she wasn't married to him or in a financial situation good enough to raise a kid. She wanted to be sure she was going to marry him before anything of the sort. Also, holy shit use periods dude. That's the biggest single sentence I've ever seen. Supporting the father here proves you're exactly the kind of person that shouldn't be a parent.

[@GabrielHenrique-pq5bo]

The guy is nuts, willing to lose a second wife, part of the life of his son, the love and respect of his daughter, the relationship with his family just for the sake of "fairness" when he is literally the only one who thinks he is right, i can't believe it, even a professional said in his face "you are not being fair" he double down still

[@missspectra]

People can invest a lot of ego into an idea, no matter how wrong it might be, and once that investment is made, they become incredibly close minded, and unwilling to admit that they were wrong.

[@velveteenrabbit5940]

It always irritates me when people say “I feel ganged up on like no one is on my side” Like OF COURSE no one is on your side, you’re being a TOTAL M O R O N! Try considering for at least a brief moment that you MIGHT be in the wrong here and should relent maybe?? Just having one person against you is easily excusable. An entire family against you should TELL YOU SOMETHING. This guy is a premium example of why the divorce rate is so high. You cant be that stubborn and abusive also expect the world to just bend over for you and not give any consequences for your behavior.

[@ayoutubee7595]

I get the guy more but my ego is pretty big

[@devonation8348]

@@ayoutubee7595 he’s definitely not that bad their just partial to the women even tho she’s being manipulative

[@madeya3768]

@@devonation8348 ahh atlast one like minded person yes bro that's is the true fact she is being manipulative

[@Jo-er6tw]

Bruuuuuh even Lizzy is understanding the whole baby situation more that the dad. Imagine being told by your wife, your best friends, your brother, your entire family, a professional and then your own daughter that you’re in the wrong and hurting your children rather than helping them and you STILL refuse to get your head out of your ass. That dad is ruining his relationships with not only his wife but his family, friends and child too and all he really needs to do to prove that he’s willing to try is go to therapy with OP. OP is far more patient than I would have been, then again I think the stepchild would ofc be a big factor and that loving them would make it harder to leave.

[@00videovideo]

Therapy is kinda pointless when all she does is tell you to listen and obey your wife. That’s not therapy that’s just her friend trying to get him to just cave.

[@Jo-er6tw]

@@00videovideo in this case he’s in the wrong tho, now ofc if you got to a therapist or a couples therapist that seems biased or refuses to try to see things from all perspectives and such then you should switch therapists. Usually people have to go through a few before they find one right for them. Therapists are there to try and help you in many aspects, to offer an outside perspective and to say it as it is. They’re not there to grant you instant validation or agree to everything you say and do, that wouldn’t be very helpful lol.

[@jsmith1291]

Story 1: Brother had the same chance his brother did and blew it, then tried scamming OP for cash. This is the point where you write someone out of your life because nothing good can come from associating with him.

[@froggyx1029]

The husband is being told by his wife, his brother and the rest of his family, his best friend, and his therapist that he’s being unfair and even cruel to his wife and his reaction is to claim that he’s being ganged up on, not to critically think about his actions and how they might affect those around him. I wonder if he ever asked Lizzy how she felt about his wife being a SaH mother since that seemed to be the crux of his argument. Given Lizzy’s reaction after the separation, i doubt it. I feel sorry for Lizzy and for the mom, but the husband made his own bed. He can lie in it.

[@stevensavoy927]

That's right. It baffles me the amount of bitter, entitled, single men (who probably aren't even dads themselves) that are siding with the husband (Not to mention obviously don't understand how pregnancy works)

[@wolfengod8277]

@@stevensavoy927 I doubt very much that there are many single men that agree with the guy, you are creating nonexistent phantoms. Most single men would likely agree that people care about their biological children in a different way than a step child, it is obvious and normal from a biological prospective. It is more likely parents that have married again and want their spouse to treat their child like it was actually both their biological child that are on his side.

[@greatbrandini3967]

I still think there's hope for him. Being in that kind of situation, having everyone turn against you and your life on the brink of turning upside down, is the time when someone is most willing to change. There's a good chance he'll cave in and admit that he's wrong, even if he still doesn't feel like he's wrong because he has a lot to lose if he doesn't.

[@ywe3]

@@stevensavoy927 I can see both sides...I see his way of thinking [I don't personally agree] but he's going about it completely wrong...his trust issues with his ex has turned him into this self entitled man baby all because he blames himself [bit of conjecture on my part but based on what I know about the situation it's my summary].

[@stevensavoy927]

@@ywe3 Indeed it has. But these incels cannot see that

[@faithenger4926]

With the second story I'd have to say as a mother to both biological and stepchildren that I never treated them any different. I loved them all Equally! I never looked at it like it was his and or mine.. I have lost one of each in the past 4 years and it hurt me equally. My stepdaughter was murdered and my biological son passed away from COVID-19 There's not a day that goes by that I don't think of either of them I was a stay-at-home mom for all But facts are facts and it is true what the therapist said that a lot of parents are more connected to their own biological creations, but that is not the case for every situation. He was just being a jerk and couldn't see his wife was there for all of them..

[@stevensavoy927]

Indeed. If I was the wife, I'd dish out a nice, hearty dose of malicious compliance to the husband

[@sherriebrunell2151]

I'm so sorry for your losses. That's rough. My heart goes out to you.

[@stevensavoy927]

@@sherriebrunell2151 Indeed. It is sorry to hear. I cannot believe how many people (probably single men) in this comment section are just complete incels

[@mr.fettesq.7705]

Lol...on earth are you talking about dude.... "incels"...really dude...? Grow up man.

[@stevensavoy927]

@@mr.fettesq.7705 What's OP supposed to do? Give the son up for adoption?

[@zozo11221]

It baffles me how the husband never bothered to ask how Lizzie feels about this. I mean he is so on about being fair to her but never actually confirm if she feels that way. He is manipulative, controlling and a narcissist. How he cannot accept that he is the problem he is way out of line when therapists, frinends and family tell him to cut the crap. He just feels ganged upon. He needs serious help because he is out of his mind.

[@brendanboomhour7606]

Yep, he's a controlling asshat, bitching about how his daughter never got a stay at home mom, but when OP came into her life she was a child, not an infant, she didn't need a stay at home mom

[@00videovideo]

The husband is not in the wrong tho, no one sees things from his pov they all just see a pregnant lady and just agree with whatever bs she’s trying to do.

[@KC-nx8ol]

@@00videovideo no, everyone in the story understands what he thinks about the situation. But he has unrealistic expectations of his wife and how his family's life should go. His wife does have the right to drop down to part time and be a stay at home mom and it's not like they need the money from her work. He is just being petty and butthurt over the fact that she wouldn't do it when he asked her to, because it didn't benefit it her at all (because it was smart to think that way when they weren't married and she was just the GF/Fiancée who needs some finical support to fall back on if he kicked her to the curb) and now that it would benefit both of them and the children he's upset because it wasn't HIS plan. His side of the story comes down to he wanted it a certain way, he didn't get that and he isn't willing to compromise and now he's throwing a tantrum. Cry me a river SMH

[@SeniorCharry]

The story about the pregnant lady and husband fighting over the daughter and new son is all too common in my opinion. Stepparents tend to either try too hard or prioritize their own kids. My parents separated when I was 2 years old. My dad started dating my stepmom after the divorce was settled. My stepmom had a daughter, my stepsister, and always treated her with priority. As a kid I was upset, I felt unwanted, and often I was blamed for my stepsister's mistakes, like a scapegoat. To be clear, my stepmom was never horrible to me, she actually spent time and help raised me, but clearly her kid was the favorite, understandably. When I turned 16 things started to change. I was spending more time with my stepmom and I even started just calling her mom, and she in turn started saying things like "Love you, bye," and treated me like her own kid. Now I'm almost 30, and my stepmom has not only paid for my college, but she also helped me get a job as a financial specialist making a pretty good wage. We talk a lot and she's truly become a mom to me. We had a long conversation about the past and aired out or frustrations and grief. We both realized we made mistakes, but we also learned from them.

[@sentientcardboarddumpster7900]

Yea it just really takes a long time to form a truly deep bond like that, since it's not just a friendship. It can't be forced and pressure tends to make it harder. I realized how much my step father meant to me this year after he almost died from a heart issue

[@ameliamatlock2641]

@@sentientcardboarddumpster7900 man I feel sorry for you I’m only a teenager this year but I just can’t describe what that pain must have felt like. I hope you feel better

[@pauliussipavicius4658]

You were a kid. You didnt make mistakes per se, or atleast cant being held accoutable for them. That just sounds like narcicistic stepmom saying "you also made mistakes" to make her mistakes seem smaller.

[@stevensavoy927]

Is it bad that I feel, if the husband could, he'd make OP give the bio son away to some random family?

[@sidmadox7780]

@@stevensavoy927 Yes it is bad bro but this story seems suspicious i don't think she really like Lizzie at all maybe bcuz of stories we hear on web.

[@marcor815]

About the second story: Lizzy came only in the OP‘s life at a certain age. Maybee it could help to defuse the situation if the OP makes a statement that she will go back to work as soon as the son is that age. If the father is willing to fix it, he could see this as the exit that the OP didn‘t have any chance to be there for Lizzy (as a stay at home mom) before that certain age, so he can excuse it to himself untill that age, if he is willing to fix it. Maybee it would even be better if someone else (not the OP) would propose it, so it comes from a more neutral side. But there is also the risk, that this would just delay the issue because we all know, people change and the situation around us too

[@Jadae]

On first listen, I had felt that maybe he had immense guilt. On second listen, I felt that he was controlling, and that quite likely after the divorce, he will find Mom #3 for Lizzy. And this time it will be someone more submissive.

[@stevensavoy927]

@@Jadae Probably, yeah. It seems, as the husband's family said, that he just can't get over his ex, and is willing to force his partner to do things in the name of "fairness" to his first born, which has ultimately only strained their relationship

[@sirlancelotbeans547]

No the mom will still be working just from home with her son and daughter she shouldn’t have to to go back

[@stevensavoy927]

@@sirlancelotbeans547 That's the idea. Seeing other comments here, tho, just makes me think "Well, what is OP supposed to do? Give the biological son up for adoption?"

[@ranidiangelo939]

She shouldn't have to. He shouldn't control what she does

[@stoprighttherecriminalscum8148]

Thank God there's text because I was highly distracted by that clone trooper absolutely shredding Moscow. "FOR THE 501st!!" * slaav squats *

[@ArtscoStudioShorts]

in story 1 after his brother slashed his tires he said "forget about him. I dont feel bad anymore" I was laughing so hard how the narrator said that part lol. It sounded like the voice someone would use if they were depressed lol. Bro made my day that part.

[@LucaLukaszPascua]

In the 2nd story. I wish OP can adopt Lizzie. Lizzie now hates her father for not having a mother figure in her life. Lizzie is aware the father is at fault this tine. If anything Lizzie is more damaged on this. :(

[@stevensavoy927]

Indeed. If I were OP, I would've tried to get CPS involved

[@ec_negative]

@@stevensavoy927 what’s an op

[@stevensavoy927]

@@ec_negative Original Poster

[@mr.fettesq.7705]

You would try and take his kid away because he disagrees with his wife...!?!? He's being an unreasonable ass hat for sure, and deserves a divorce at this point....bud really dude? CPS?? What kind of a person are you that out of spite you should try and take a person's kid away from them like that? There was no mention of any abuse towards his girl Lizzie...not once. Toxic environment due to upcoming divorce looks like but that's it. You sound toxic as all hell bro...ngl

[@bri9218]

Here is the thing, OP is Married to lizzie's dad and she hates him currently as well as the fact that she is pregnant with her half brother. He can NOT keep her away from OP because she has a right to see her brother. The fact that she yells at him, shes depressed and in therapy and her grades have fallen at such a young age makes my heart ache.

[@micahandmichelle4201]

Best Friend: your in the wrong Brothers: your in the wrong Family: your in the wrong Daughter: you ruined my life and your in the wrong Wife: your in the wrong Comments: your in the wrong Husband: Why y’all ganging up on me no one understands me 😤 Me: I understand Husband: Thanks Me: about how much your in the wrong

[@madeya3768]

I am commenting that he is right I wish I could say that to hime

[@angeleyessss_s]

@@madeya3768 How could he be the right?

[@hlparkerjr]

@@madeya3768 he’s in the wrong what are you talking about

[@iamhungey12345]

@@hlparkerjr Probably wanted to be a contrarian.

[@vxnvee8193]

Thats the way I wanted to say it if I would comment on this vid 🙂

[@some_random_user_who_is_random]

It's weird that he puts so much emphasis on Lizzie being his biological child but doesn't seem to be treating the new son as one? You would think he'd want the best for both of his bio children, even if time and circumstance cause "the best" for them to be different. But the level of resentment he feels at the son having something Lizzie didn't is really disturbing.

[@SoraJack]

I don't think that's the case. He's obviously not thinking of his son who isn't even born yet. Because he as a dad, raising his little girl on his own before meeting his wife, he has a lot of expectations for whoever he marries, and those expectations, he probably never vocalised. He obviously feels bitter that she didn't want to raise his daughter as a stay at home mom. So when she got pregnant and expressed desire to do so, he feels betrayed. He thinks he's protecting his little girl by making it "fair". Not thinking about his other son's future. As adults, we should all understand the situation, and the way they presented it in therapy is very fair. But the husband believes he's protecting his little girl because she probably doesn't fully understand that the wife isn't her biological mother, and he's sensitive to that. Essentially, he began to question their relationship because he had expectations for her he didn't tell her beforehand.

[@groomingocean26]

​@@SoraJackFinnally someone who is smart

[@amanbirbthe4th967]

​@@SoraJackthe daughter does understand it though???

[@arthurwintersight7868]

@@SoraJack - It sounds like the little girl is taking the woman's side though, and was probably thrilled at the idea of having a little brother, only for dad to fuck it all up.

[@davidrosing5788]

Right, all the so-called emphasis on Lizzie without actually taking into account what Lizzie herself WANTS because it sounds to me from what I've heard Lizzie would prefer to stay with her brother and step-mom. So his reasoning for his tantrum being based on what he thinks Lizzie needs goes out the window and it's as @Sorajack says it's because he feels betrayed that the OP didn't stay at home with Lizzie when they were first married. So if I was in this situation I'd turn to Lizzie and ask HER what she wants and then both parents would be bound to agree to honor and respect HER wishes.

[@TheMetalWeirdo]

For the second story: I feel like OP is trying to see the situation from multiple angles, not just hers whilst the husband only sees the situation from his POV. And despite having multiple people, especially his own family telling him he is the one in the wrong he can't accept it. I don't think there's any way to salvage this relationshipso it's best to cut ties with him and move on. True, it's gonna hurt Lizzy but she knows it's her dad's fault Lizzy don't have a longlasting motherfigure in her life so there's an almost guarantee the "dad" won't be around Lizzys kids when she comes of age and starts her own family

[@stevensavoy927]

Probably not, no. Like on commenter here said, the husband has the mentality of "if my first born can't have this, neither will the rest of my kids", and that is already starting to strain the relationship with his first born. Also, it's not like she's the Karen that in that one AITA post who wanted to make her fiance get rid of his 5 year old daughter for her own unborn child (Which, frankly, he seems to be treating it as)

[@onimatonimat_14mc16]

I feel like the husband pulled a dick move and her reaction to it was a semi appropriate response

[@DrThraks]

2 options if she works then that hurts the new baby period. however if she don't work and stay home that can benefit the baby and his sister Lizzy. so I think that the father needs to open his eyes.

[@stevensavoy927]

@@DrThraks I doubt he will, nor will the bitter neckbeards who side with him

[@dieselthedemon4319]

I agree when your child starts to say your a bad dad it ducking kills you inside no I’m not a parent but I’ve seen it happen the dad is an ass and should see the up side the daughter and son will be raised together plus he’ll be able to do more good for his daughter

[@vapek3308]

Normal people: watching the subtitles/listening to the audio me: S T A R W A R S ON A S K A T E B O A R D

[@someone3187]

It's more tiring to take care of a newborn baby /toddler, than a preschool kid. Taking care of two children is also more stressful than one child alone. Also, the working from home opportunity only became possible recently, so, things can change over time. The father is being entirely unreasonable with his wife. Also, he should grant her wish, taking into account that she'll be tired from giving birth, nursing the baby and prepping the other child for school etc.

[@Amozon28]

For the second story if it had just been these two throwing ultimatums at each other and the stepmom putting her foot down i would say theyre both the ah However she didn't, she got MULTIPLE therapists and counselors involved to get a third party proffessional opinion on what they should both do. And everyone explained to both of them that while both of their feelings were understandable, what the husband was asking wasnt the result of what was best for his family and instead was the result of unresolved trauma from his first marriage. With a clear answer on what they should do, the husband STILL refused, quit therapy and doubled down on his point. Thru all of this the stepmother kept extending olive branches and the husband just stuck his fingers in his ears and went "lalalalalala" Even worse is the reason he claimed to be doing all this, his concern over his daughter, was the person he hurt most by his actions. Truly a sad story

[@Slushi__]

😢

[@spaghettiskateboard8275]

There was an update to the second story that showed the woman lied about getting help and that she was abusing the step daughter. Shame you fell for it. :/

[@parrotpop7277]

​@@spaghettiskateboard8275link it because I can't believe that

[@Zeakthecat]

@@spaghettiskateboard8275 wait seriously? edit: checked out the posts, 0 mention. such bullshit.

[@spaghettiskateboard8275]

@@Zeakthecat we do a lil trollin

[@natethegreat5220]

Starting off with him agreeing to the counseling I had high hopes that just maybe ,maybe she'd work things out with him. That he would see that he's being a butthole. But no he had to be stubborn to the very end. SMH

[@Captain-Axeman]

Really? I think the OP is the butthole here. Weaponizing her biological child, demanding that she has too be allowed to be a stay-at-home mom, and it seems that they apperantly had a agreement in regards too it. He offered it back then, she chose not too. Don't come back crying saying you've changed your mind. If she wants too be a stay-at-home mom she and he doesn't want to support that. Then she have to find a way of supporting that life choice. She's also clearly taking advantage of her job. She's taking paternity leave but plans on leaving too become a stay-at-home mom. Which iw absolutely horrible, the business is paying you that money so you can get through pregnancy and return to the job they most likely want you to coutine.

[@smurf4me236]

He just scared his daughter gonna get left out

[@stevensavoy927]

@@smurf4me236 And that fear is causing his relationship with his first born to be strained

[@stevensavoy927]

@@smurf4me236 What's OP supposed to do, give up the bio son for adoption?

[@lolitabubbles26]

@@smurf4me236 No. He is using his daughter as a scapegoat for his toxic bullshit. He tried to control her by telling her she wasn't ALLOWED to be a stay-at-home mom. That isn't about his daughter, that is about control. Don't get it twisted.

[@ManOfAction22]

They’re both wrong, they’re destroying the daughter and sons lives because they both can’t act like adults

[@lukeskywalker9580]

Yes. Some sided with husband and some sided with wife. I said they are both bad parents for doing that. They should have find a way to compromise together.

[@masonabbey6353]

The stay-at-home mom situation just hurts my soul to hear, it's not a family rift made by some horrible vice or petty greed - from outside at least is sounds simple pride , maybe more on the husband's part than the wife - but it's still there on both sides. I hoped it worked out for the better not only for the couple but for their children as well

[@arthurwintersight7868]

Even the step-daughter recognized that newborns needed more care, and was supporting the woman in this situation, and was probably thrilled at the idea of having a younger brother, only for her dad to fuck it all up. It's not like the woman was quitting her job. She was just going to do work-from-home, so she could tend to a literal newborn baby...

[@dylanblitz123]

That husband is unbelievable man I just don’t get the big deal why he won’t accept that she wants to be a stay at home mom there’s gotta be something that the op’s missing

[@dbs910]

I know he is wrong, but he is thinking the same way, why can't she do the same that she did to his daughter.

[@juicybuttercup5393]

@@dbs910 because she wasn't financially stable at the time and they weren't married yet. it's understandable to be hesitant about such a commitment when you're not certain if the relationship is going to he a long-term one

[@diamondly6250]

@@juicybuttercup5393 them not being married yet is more then enough reason for her not do it, its kind of weird for the dude to expect that of her

[@00videovideo]

Cuz she’s changing the plan they both had. When it came to his daughter she didn’t want to make that sacrifice but now that it’s her son all of a sudden being a SAHM is what she truly wants lol. Nah I understand the husband and it is clearly favoritism.

[@rebewtinydino2572]

@@00videovideoare you father?

[@sanddagger36]

story 2: there is a lot of he said/she said to unpack with this story but it boils down to, she has a newborn baby to take care of and he just doesn't want her to because it is "unfair" to his daughter. He is wrong. The daughter was not newborn and did not need a stay at home parent. He can try claiming it's not fair when the son is 3 if she does not go back to work but right now he does not even have a leg to stand on. For detail tho, I think it has been overlooked that the wife does not even feel safe with her husband. he had a psychotic break according to her. she is going through the motions of trying to fix their relationship because they are married with a kid but it seems like he has already burned the bridge of her feeling safe with him. She just doesn't want to admit it yet. She is now basically just trying to legally sort out how the next 18 years of their life can go while they raise their son but I guarantee that if she is thinking this strongly about leaving him already, she should get out before its too late. Even if he were not wrong, it is clear these two do not have what it takes to be a proper couple. All she is trying to do is keep the pseudo family together for the kids' sake but I think it will do them more harm than good.

[@devonation8348]

She just sounds manipulative honestly nothing she says indicates that he would harm the baby actually listen to the story cause she sounds like she isn’t being truthful and says certain things to get you on her side

[@sanddagger36]

@@devonation8348 of course the story comes from her point of view, but if she were lying she would have come up with something better than he wants her not to stay home because its unfair.

[@randomsomethin]

In the second story, was it mentioned how the actual mother, Lizzy treated her or how she was raised in her early years? I think it's also essential to know this. The father wants fairness, but didn't his daughter receive some care from her mother when she was born? Also added, the stay-at-home part is a reasonable thing to do these days. I don't understand what's wrong with that. Society has changed these past few years, and if she gets to spend more time taking care of their son and Lizzy, what's the problem?

[@wake6000]

The problem is, he simply wants fairness, since Lizzy never got the chance to grow with a stay at home mom. Not that hard to understand lol.

[@lolitabubbles26]

If you actually listened to the video where the first half of the story is told, then you'd know that the "actual mother" was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. She saw Lizzy once a month, if that. And is an alcoholic. Ya know, having the whole story really helps...

[@wake6000]

@@lolitabubbles26 I know that, and what does that have to do with anything? All he wants is to give equal treatment for both of his children, and he's simply asking his wife to respect the fact that since Lizzie never got the chance to have a stay at home mom take care of her, neither should the boy to prevent any resentment growing on Lizzie's part. It's a simple notion which neither you nor the op seems to be able to comprehend like a normal person lol.

[@SpiritHawk7]

@@wake6000 Like a normal person? What normal person would want to separate a mother from her child? That is the single greatest natural bond there ever is. It's not fairness, it's equality. Just because something is "equal", doesn't make it right. It's not fair to force a mother to be without her child nor to force a child to be without its mother because a completely different person had a completely different upbringing. The ex-wife and daughter are NOT the current soon-to-be ex-wife and son. They are 4 different people with their own separate lives. The husband wants to illogically try to force history to repeat itself unnecessarily into a lose-lose-lose situation. It's a win-win-win if the wife can stay home with the 2 kids. The mother can be with her son, the son can be with his mother, and Lizzy gets more time with a maternal figure in her life as the stepmom wouldn't be away at work, which gives them more time to be together. The husband can't let go of the past and move on. His daughter certainly had, making his 'fear' of resentment unfounded.

[@collectorofmyst2107]

@@wake6000 So you're saying that since a man lost a hand, we should all cut off one of ours? Because he *might* resent us for having two hands? Lizzie didn't get a proper relationship with her birth mother. What's more, she doesn't *like* her birth mother. But in this arrangement, _everyone_ benefits. Lizzie, _who isn't even ten years old,_ gets to spend more time with her stepmother, who _already_ takes her to school, to sports events, to get ice cream - does her father do that? The baby, who hasn't been born yet, will get to spend time with his mother and his half-sister. The mom will be there for _both_ of her children.

[@thenerdbeast7375]

My only complaint about the second story is how much it is brought up "oh her relationship with her biological child is naturally going to be different." Are people forgetting how she has to essentially grow a whole new person and the physical toll that will have on OP? Or that it is only now that they are married and in a different position at work she can now work from home? Or how the husband made it about him or not about Lizzy at all? All these factors make the fact whether Lizzy is the step-child or not almost irrelevant, the soon to be ex-husband would probably have acted like this even if OP was Lizzy's biological mother.

[@khalborg]

Sadly, i can relate to the husband. not that i would side with him now, but i have gone through something similar. I feel like the husband has a massive chip on his shoulder that continues to make him push with the mentality that if his 1st born cant have something, none of his children can have it, even if it means allowing his strained relationship with the 1st born to decline. If he continues to refuse help, he will continue to make unnecessary comparisons between Lizzie and the baby’s experiences and somehow blame it on the Mother. Any bad experience Lizzie and the husband may have will be blamed on the mother. Any good experience the child may have in the future will be another evidence of the mother playing favorites. Without effective counseling, the husband may continue to spiral downwards, become more petty and bitter. I watched part 1 of the story and i thought it would have helped case if she stated that she wants to start be a working stay at home mom for both children, and not just for the unborn child, rather than to convince the husband that there are acceptable differences on how parents treat their children versus their stepchildren.

[@keepwhiningtankies3594]

The divorced dad to alt-right pipeline.

[@stevensavoy927]

I can kind of understand, but, also, remember this. The unborn son is biological, so it's natural that OP will still feel more of a special connection than with Lizzy

[@stevensavoy927]

Also, bloody Christ, the amount of bitter incels in this comment section is something else

[@Saiyan0X]

@@stevensavoy927 Seems like you are annoyed that other people have a different perspective than yours and you revert to call them incels. I have seen 6 or more times where you comment the same thing in different person's comments: "the amount of incels in this comment section is insane" and "what should OP do? Leave the son in adoption?!"

[@stevensavoy927]

@@Saiyan0X I have the impression these people think stay at home moms are lazy, and think that raising a child is a walk in the park, unlike playing videogames

[@frustotamer6231]

When the daughter grows up and hears why she lost her step mom she is going to hate his dad

[@Tulmara]

Doubt it.

[@passingextraterrestrial]

​​@@Tulmarahe already does hate him for it, and it probably will just deepen once she knows the reason. Considering that his entire family already thinks he's wrong, this is highly likely. Once she's old enough to understand things and hears the full story, she probably will hate him for it. I would hate my dad too if he made my mum leave because he didn't understand that circumstances change. The wife seems as though she would've probably agreed to being a stay at home for Lizzy if she was at a better place in her career and was married (since these are the only two reasons she herself gives [not the therapists, that SHE gives] for not doing so, she really cares about Lizzy and still is in contact), so majority of this is the fault of the husband being an idiot.

[@noway9081]

#1 It is always amazing to me how money issues cut down any sense of decency or self respect even among family members. The brother clearly knows he doesn't deserve a penny of that money and that his girlfriend was wrong to try to cheat his younger brother, but he still begs for money and slashes his brother's tires when he says no. He sacrifices his self respect and the love of his brother all for a chance at a handout that he is in no way entitled to and that his girlfriend tried to steal. Why? You are just as broke now as before you begged and tried to steal your brother's money. Nothing has changed and no one has made you any worse off than you were before. Not helping someone is not the same as harming them, especially when they tried to steal from you. I know that sounds harsh, but rescues are a gift not an entitlement.

[@allisonickes8173]

There's a difference Lizzi was getting ready to start pre school and didn't need a stay at home mom and they weren't married, so I didn't make sense for her to stop her career when she wasn't in a good situation to do so. It's not Ops fault Lizzi didn't get a stay at home mom. The baby will need to be constantly looked after fed every 2 hrs for the few months and needs the mother there. From what she says she's always treated Lizzi as her own and is now is the right spot to be a stay at home mom.

[@muffinrevived69]

I've had a similar thing happen to me like the second story, however in the situation of Lizzy. When my parents divorced , I was furious at both of them, my mom for making the decision so quickly, and my dad for threatening my mother by having fights with her (physically). Its been years since the whole thing, and I've got a step dad but it still haunts me to this day. Thanks for sharing this video and sort of spreading awareness of these types of situations, earned a sub.

[@jaylen597]

The husband deserves everything that’s happening to him, but it’s sad Lizzy has to deal with all of this

[@Valast]

well if his wife didnt start with the shit in the beginning she wouldnt have to deal with it

[@dawnrays6161]

I don’t think it’s a case of OP not compromising because SHE didn’t do anything wrong. Especially if MULTIPLE professionals and HIS entire family is on her side, he should really get a grip

[@devonation8348]

both have good and bad points and how was he controlling when they first got together he wanted her to be a stay at home mom but instead let her be what she wanted at the time and she worked the brother sounds like he wants her and there literally wasn’t a reason to say he’s hung up over his ex I don’t even see how you guys see the husband as controlling when you hear this story maybe desperate but honestly the controlling part goes more to the op she literally is saying my way or the highway and the fact that she’s making him go to therapy only to see her point and she’s not do the same is another flag she also puts divorce in his face and says manipulative things like like that through the story like when she say I’m scared for him holding they’re son and I think he might hurt him even though nothing she’s written gave any indication of harm or hate towards the baby even saying he definitely wants the baby just doesn’t want the baby to have special treatment which is fair but even her saying do you even want this baby is manipulative like she’s saying if you really want this baby you shouldn’t disagree with me

[@bobbiec2829]

@@devonation8348 my lord, learn to use some punctuation.

[@abishai3234]

I was so angry listening to the 2nd story. The justice he tries to enforce is build on denying his second child a close parental care - something that is objectively the best thing that a child can have. When even his own daughter acknowledges his stance as stupid, it's obvious that his entire case is built on false pretenses. When I was born in '88, my parents were young, at the beginning of their careers, and it obviously meant that I wasn't the most coddled kid in the world. They had my sister in 2008, so 20 years later they obviously were capable to lay back and pay more attention to her. She has more gadgets, travels more, has access to more things etc - and I couldn't be more happier for her AND my parents. They earned their peace of mind, and there isn't a single reason why they shouldn't take advantage of that - they worked for it. Everybody should make best with what they have at the time - bickering about what was and isn't doesn't make a shred of sense.

[@theminisimmer]

Well that's very gracious of you to think that about your sibling. Most people will see that as favouritism. I can tell that you guys are very tight knit family.

[@bobbiec2829]

I can relate. My only sibling is 15 years younger than me and we were raised very differently. It's typical that different children may have a different upbringing despite having the same parent(s) - either one or both.

[@nohomo4774]

@@theminisimmer its not favoritism, its just the benefits of being the youngest child lol

[@00videovideo]

I’m sorry that your parents treated you like that. They were truly toxic ppl and you deserved better. Don’t accept horrible bs just cuz they are family. What they did to you was wrong.

[@annetcats]

I realize I shouldn't even bother to reply to this drama but even ignoring the fact that it feels like the second story has a lot left out... Let's put both videos together and I'm going to break this down a little. First point. The OP is currently 28 and her husband is 37. They've been married for 2 years and together for 5. We know that this guy asked OP to be a stay at home mom BEFORE they got married. Some some time between when OP was the ages of 23 and 26 that they were asked to be a stay at home parent. OP said no because they didn't want to be finically dependent on the husband, who at the time wasn't even their husband. When asked if the husband would have become a stay at home dad and become completely finically dependent on the OP, his answer was "well I make more money then you" which is the fancy way of stay no. Because of course no one wants to have to depend on their SO for money... Even if one person makes enough to support the full family of 4 comfortably, no one wants that. It feels really really bad to have to depend on someone else and have to go and ask them for money every time you want to get something. I could honestly see that having been a problem with them if OP HAD become a SAHM. Second point, going off of this. The husband had asked OP between the ages of 23-26 to make a huge life altering choice: continue working or stay at home. He's almost 10 years OPs senior. I bring this up because maybe it didn't seem like a huge life-altering choice for him... but to ask someone that young to quit their job (where if they're anything like me is where they get a majority of their social interactions) and become a SAHM which basically entails isolating themselves completely from the life that they once knew and were starting to build. That's a HUGE deal that neither of them addressed. That asking someone at even 26 years old to drop their life that they've spent all this time building... and go be a stay at home mom where you'll be spending a MAJORITY of the day alone with literally no one to talk to or interact with... I've seen that drive people insane. Where all you do is cook and clean all day between waiting for someone to come home and have someone to interact with. Third point: Two years may not seem like a lot but I know for sure that between 26 and 28 a lot can happen and I'm not the same person I was two years ago. OP isn't even asking to stop working.... They're just saying that okay... they're now ready to be a stay at home mom because they don't have to be finically dependent on the husband and they are in a place that they can continue to give even more care to both children. Ignoring favoritism, because yes... this is a thing and will always be a thing, OP is saying that they love Lizzie like their own child. Lizzie isn't going to be left in the dust. My final point, something to acknowledge what the husband is saying. He's right. People aren't listening to what he's saying but he's not listening to them. This is kind of an issue on his part for thinking "I'm right and everyone else is wrong and nothing will change that". He USED Lizzy several times to guilt the OP into trying to come back and be a family and OP said it clearly "I need to be your wife too, not just a mom for Lizzy." They can be both, but the husband is only seeing OP as a mom for Lizzy and that's it. It's actually a lot more common then you'd think and if OP HAD become a SAHM when they had first gotten married.... Pretty sure that marriage would have ended FAR sooner then this. I feel for everyone on this on some levels. We have to go on the information that is given to us, so with that... I understand that the husband feels trapped, but he's not listening or even attempting to compromise. He's stuck in a mind set and won't let it go, even as he watches his entire life fall apart. And all he can do is blame the OP and say it's their fault when... Given the information we've been given... OP changed their mind... That's it. And is asking for a 2 way street to be a 2 way street. I'm sure there's information that was left out and not given to us. I don't think OP is some kind of faultless angel but they also aren't at fault here. Imagine if someone 10 years your elder asked you to give up your life that you're in the middle of building and become isolated and basically do nothing but wait on them hand-and-foot... which is a majority of what being a SAHM is doing. Then when you change your mind because you feel like you are mentally, financially, and emotionally ready to do that, they turn around and become violent about it? Yeah... no thank you. While I'd like to believe that OP and their husband can work this out... It's not on the OP... It's on the husband.

[@sammysammy3382]

@Wildcard mm no i dont think the op loves lizzie the same way she loves her son, and u rlly cant blame her bc its a totally different experience being a mom for a child (thats old enough to go to preschool) that isnt biologically yours than it is to be a mom for a baby that is your own flesh and blood, while you could say the husband had a right to ask her, she also had a right to refuse. The og comment explained it very well, its hard to give up a career you love and care about for taking care of a kid that doesnt need that much caring for (not saying lizzie is or should be completely independent obviously, but if shes old enough to go to school she doesnt need as much attention). also wth is up with ur idea of marriage, i have literally never in my life heard marriage being described as a sacrifice that women should have to make for the man that makes no sense? most ppl will describe it as a union between two people that love and respect each other, not whatever u said. The rest is fine tho i agree they both in some degree are in the wrong (the husband more than the OP) but again u cant rlly blame the op for that either, on the other hand the husbands being unreasonable and to some point selfish, you cant compare lizzie to the son, while the OP may love them both, it will never be at the same level.

[@stevensavoy927]

@@sammysammy3382 Indeed. I'd say this Wildcard guy sounds bitter

[@himarisuzuki5208]

@Wildcard ah yes, because what op should do is kidnap a child that legally isn't hers so that she isn't "abandoning" the child she clearly loves and hates to be torn away from by the actions of the father. Sometimes the internet makes me think that certain people just shouldn't have access to it because if you're critical thinking skills are lower than a rock, the last place you want to be is here.

[@stevensavoy927]

@@himarisuzuki5208 No, wait, better! The OP should give the bio son up for adoption, and have any other pregnancies from the man terminated, or give those kids up for adoption! Nothing's more fair than making it Izzie and Izzie only!

[@himarisuzuki5208]

@@stevensavoy927 fuck it! Divorce the dad and get custody of the girl through questionable means (possibly lying)! That way, he can't say shit about her not loving Lizzie

[@kyliethomas6706]

Story 2: A lot of people siding with the husband didn’t watch part 1 op’s husband asked her to be a stay at home mom before proposing but she didn’t want to be financially reliant on a bf or a sham for a kid who already goes to school because she was establishing her career it’s obvious op’s husband was just looking for a mother for Lizzie because how are you going to be mad at your NOW wife for saying no to quitting her job to raise her boyfriends child who is in school already he already had that red flag from the beginning she also didn’t have the option to work from home before and now she does she isn’t really becoming a stay at home mom she is just working from home now evrey one is saying she is gold digger or spoiled but she just want to work from home so her baby doesn’t go to day care or have someone else do the moms job she loves Lizzie and offered to do more and join her schools pta and her husband ignored that

[@HeoBaby24]

But it's the fact now she changes her mind She said herself she never wanted to be a stay at home mom even if she has kids Now that's she has one she all of a sudden want to be one I do understand both sides

[@devonation8348]

truthfully both have good and bad points and how was he controlling when they first got together he wanted her to be a stay at home mom but instead let her be what she wanted at the time and she worked the brother sounds like he wants her and there literally wasn’t a reason to say he’s hung up over his ex I don’t even see how you guys see the husband as controlling when you hear this story maybe desperate but honestly the controlling part goes more to the op she literally is saying my way or the highway and the fact that she’s making him go to therapy only to see her point and she’s not do the same is another flag she also puts divorce in his face and says manipulative things like like that through the story like when she say I’m scared for him holding they’re son and I think he might hurt him even though nothing she’s written gave any indication of harm or hate towards the baby even saying he definitely wants the baby just doesn’t want the baby to have special treatment which is fair but even her saying do you even want this baby is manipulative like she’s saying if you really want this baby you shouldn’t disagree with me

[@patrybc8843]

@@HeoBaby24 She said herself she never wanted to be a stay at home mom even if she has kids "because she had to leave the job" Thats the important part. You need to listen to the first part of the story to understand why she decided to chage her mind. Also, her husband is not upset about the change of decision itself, he is upset because he didn't do it with his daughter and therefore doesn't want the other to have it

[@patrybc8843]

@@devonation8348 Listen to te first part of the story.... The woman decided to leave the house and the husband began to yell at her and throw her things in a threatening manner.

[@HeoBaby24]

@@patrybc8843 @@patrybc8843 @@patrybc8843 @@patrybc8843 okay but why now and then she said she wants to take part time off to where she came still come to work So that tells me she could've done this in the beginning but didn't I understand that she not in the right money wise but if she knew she could've requested this AND she would have the financial support of her husband to go with it But again she'll get financial support from her husband with the new baby so I don't see how she'll not be dependent on him And this whole "not wanting strangers to raised my child" When no one raising him they're babysitting And then she has in-laws and her family so again I don't see her point

[@SuperEliasboi64]

I honestly feel for Lizzy (having a stepdad myself) her whole life went to flames because her dad just needs help. She needs some sort of mother figure and the OP is perfect for her but the dad just ruined it for her. Her grades and behavior have just went downhill because she needs a mother and sometimes in my life I can relate to her, I’m 13 at this point in time. My stepdad came into my life when I was 5 we got along great! But when my younger brother was born it had changed sometimes we get along well and sometimes my brother gets away with things but I’m not saying my brother gets favorited all the time but with all my experience you just need to talk it out something will get better and something’s won’t but you just have to try and talk about it. Lizzy needs the OP in her life and it’s not fair the dad may have ruined her life because he think the situation with his daughter isn’t fair, so I just hope Lizzys life gets back on track and OP can some how support her in some way (speaking form experience)

[@Adam-di8un]

1st story: not a jerk 2nd story: not a jerk

[@lostsoul2508]

Story 1 - NTA, after all you didn't spend it recklessly, and OP's brother's gf threatened him a.k.a a scam Story 2 - My spidey sense is going off majorly on this, OP has NO flaws, yet the husband is controlled, manipulative, dbag, scum etc etc etc? Yeah there are WAY too many details left out. Of course I can understand the guy suddenly feeling suspicious if their partner suddenly wanted to be a SAHM after saying no over and over before. His best friend is calling OP the best thing ever and the brother is bringing up his failed relationship? Yeah this is fan fiction, there is no WAY on god's green earth that a guy would be THIS dogpiled about something this serious

[@adamtherolf2897]

You've obviously lived a sheltered/stable life if you believe he wouldn't be dohpiled like that because this type of thing is fairly common in this type of scenario. Hell it happened to my father when my mom refused to be a stay at home mom for my oldest brother but changed her mind when my middle brother was born and he told her no she had to keep working.

[@lostsoul2508]

@@adamtherolf2897 - Okay let me rephrase, dogpiled okay, that happens, by EVERYONE? No, there is usually a few people who won't side with the OP on situations like this and a therapist should never take one side and make OP out to be an angel.

[@wake6000]

@@lostsoul2508 also I love how the brother literally says "you don't deserve her" and is so very insistent of her being a stay at home mom... Not sus at all

[@HeoBaby24]

@@wake6000 bro I was thinking that too Why would he say that? That's got me thinking op and his brother might be doing more than what they're doing

[@Crazy-Cat-Lady-of-CA]

The previous video has the first part of this story

[@sabasgarciabarba5391]

Oh god, i once avoided my parents to separate, and now my mom got crazy because of my father with some really similar behaviours, so from my perspesctive, if she stays, not only the baby, but the girl will suffer alot more, so this is actually the best way, even though i really feel sorry for the op for having to go that way because of a bad husband

[@cocoanutt27]

As far as the continuation of the second story goes, I wonder if it is possible for the OP to file for custody of Lizzie due to the father's mental state... It seems like Lizzie would be better off being raised by her stepmother.

[@federicotimm7150]

So this is not the case in every state, but she can try to claim she's a psychological parent and has created a parent-child relationship and prove that Lizzie sees her as her mom. It may not work but this is the only way I know she has any chance of it. It also depends on if the mother is just out of the picture or deceased. She could try adopting Lizzie as well but the husband would have to sign the paperwork.

[@justaperson8385]

For the last story i think that the situation blew up more than it should have. I understand the fathers point of view being unfair and afraid of favoritism. But its not a fair point of view on his part. And i think she said its only a part time job. If the girl was starting school then staying at home isnt a very big deal. I think the husbands problems are not really about the unfairness. Also with the wife im not sure she feels comfortable compromising with the way he has been acting.

[@Tikhon88]

The therapy husband wife story is one of the only divorce stories that absolutely crushed me because I see the point of both sides

[@Yin3000]

The fact that his entire family definitely shows who is right the last story

[@TheFrozenFever]

Story 1: Cut all contact, and file for a restraining order if member of a family wouldn't stop pestering me.

[@vladimirlenin383]

A phase 2 clone trooper riding a board in the Red square . How iconic.

[@superboyx2837]

One part stuck out to me. “I don’t want to be a replacement mom. I want to build a family with him and Lizzie would be included” sounds like she doesn’t see her as a family member. It seems like she would say “he’s my adorable family, and Lizzie”

[@1mol831]

It doesn’t matter if she doesn’t like Lizzie, at least she doesn’t abuse the stepchild.

[@Mangaka718]

I think it was meant in more of a, "I'm not just a replacement mom for the sake of filling a role, I want to build a cohesive family unit and that includes Lizzie" way.

[@kritchawatkid]

Well, therapist question seem to be on the side of co-existing i guess, instead the husband expectation is an actual complete family. Considered his answered is hesitant when asked whether the wife did her job as a parent, it seem like she only did as much as necessary for the girl. Well, the husband have to accept and do his best from then on. fairness is not a choice to ask for here, he can only be the giving side. And really? Put the girl in counseling? When the only thing she need is motherly love? At this point , her stance is clear. He can't expect for his dreamed family anymore, he can either accept the reality or lose it all.

[@Mangaka718]

@@kritchawatkid It really could be taken either way based just on speculation. There's just no way to know for sure stuff like what he was hesitating about, or how exactly the mom and Lizzie interacted. Without more solid facts to build off (and honestly, it's the internet; barely anything can be counted as solid fact if it's not being peer-reviewed), there's too much empty space to fill in with unconscious personal biases. I'm not excluded from this - I have a bias against fathers because of my own history, and that colors my view of the situation. tl;dr, without more supporting evidence/clarification, there's too much wiggle room for bystanders like us to really make a definitive, objective call. I just hope the kids turn out okay. In all this mess, they deserve none of it.

[@ameliamatlock2641]

@@kritchawatkid she did as much as possible but he is personally biased as the comment above me stated. She wants a complete family but they both think wow I did as much as my part she/he needs to do their part. I am personally biased because I am a dyslexic and my first primary school doesn’t teach dyslexic so I learnt fairness doesn’t = equality However that’s the slightest bias and he says that part reluctantly because of the current situation however he does somewhat know that she did at least that she did her role as a parent not just the role but at least the role

[@kermanbizzlebop8895]

idk about that second story, it feels like we're missing vital pieces of information here that makes OP look like a perfect angel. And his family, Jesus dog who the fuck tells some brother some shit like "you should've never had kids in the first place" what an actual piece of shit thing to say. I don't blame the husband cause it DOES feel like he's getting dogpiled on with no one actually trying to understand him. yeah, he's wrong (based on what we've been told) but man you're not supposed to dogpile on people who already feel like their thoughts or opinions aren't being taken into consideration.

[@sanimchunu513]

Dude it's like u can read my mind. But I think that the OP is lying

[@Re-writer233]

Yeah, this story seems to be skipping some key details, mainly about the husband’s first marriage, why does the entirety of the husband’s family seems so outraged about him marring his ex-wife and having kids with her? And the husband’s reaction to… everything isn’t normal either, he seems to be emotionally scared from his last marriage. I’m not saying that the husband is not on the wrong, he is, but there’s definitely something that we aren’t hearing

[@0doublezero0]

@@Re-writer233 Yeah, you gotta go to story 1 to get the full details. The previous wife had BPD and was on drugs, so this is why he had custody when women usually are the ones that do. The family sees the current wife as an angel, because he previous wife was horrendous thus think he's got it good. However, the dogpile wasn't necessary and just added to the problem.

[@Enup_en4]

that was exactly what i was thinking well nearly, but i just couldn't think of a way of putting what i was thinking into words

[@nathans5032]

Did you guys listen to the first story? From Yesterday explaining who shitty the first wife was?

[@thehaveninthehand]

Of course second story's op has different relationships with Lizzie and her biological son, it's inevitable. The thing that the husband doesn't understand is that love is love, and you can't force that bond to happen. Op loves Lizzie, but because she's not a biological child, that bond needs to happen over time. I've been a step sister a couple of times, one of those relationships lasted over 5 years, and Lizzie was treated so much better by op than I ever was xD

[@stevensavoy927]

I can imagine. If I were the OP, I'd give him a dose of malicious compliance

[@HeoBaby24]

@@stevensavoy927 your literally saying she should give up the child when op husband never said that

[@stevensavoy927]

@@HeoBaby24 So she's just supposed to give the child to a daycare or a nanny and have a stranger raise it? I mean, if OP isn't a stay at home mom, the baby will have to have a nanny, or go to daycare, so it will have to be practically raised by strangers, so why not just give it up for adoption at that point?

[@stevensavoy927]

@@HeoBaby24 I bet you've never even touched a dirty dish, or laundry, or cooked yourself a meal once cause "lol that's a woman's job"

[@stevensavoy927]

@@HeoBaby24 Upon hearing what the husband said, if I was OP, I'd have terminated the pregnancy, given the biological son up for adoption, or called CPS on the husband

[@sugomasussy3987]

Him: my money His brother: no comrade, It's *OUR MONEY*

[@freedom6868]

Obviously the husband is damaged from the ex wife, definitely can tell he wants control so what happened before does not happen again. Of course, being so controlling is the wrong choice. There are definitely some missing details, so I can't fully stand by op on everything. Compremising goes both ways, not one side, just a reminder to all.

[@peytonstanfield2703]

The father is definitely in the wrong even though his bias does not allow him to see it. The step mother is definitely not the asshole, she’s trying the best she can given the circumstances, its just an extremely messy situation

[@animenerd7633]

The thing about the second story is I don’t think there is any compromising with this sort of situation and of course I’m agreeing with the wife

[@medicgaming8604]

I like how the thumbnail is a soviet soldier and the first story is about “sharing”

[@JTeenmining]

as soon as the daughter lashed out at him he should have realized he is REALLY in the wrong, honestly she's trying to be more of a mother to Lizzie than he is BEING a father to the poor girl, he should lose custody of her to his soon to be ex-wife

[@lilseansolo9678]

I’m more focused on the clone trooper shredding the shit out of those rails

[@Kumo5980]

Palpatine: Execute order 180!

[@dasukimp]

Tryna understand what they achieved from slashing his tyres in the first story

[@Enup_en4]

it's revenge

[@TitoProphetOfSloths]

The Vendetta~

[@wake6000]

Use up his inheritance money to keep replacing the tires maybe?

[@parkervance3646]

I didn’t expect to see a clone trooper from Star Wars riding a skateboard but here I am

[@Ja-EdenCheese]

"my brother" Also the thumbnail:*angry Soviet soldier*

[@a3s1r1986]

I didn't listen to the stories. I was too busy watching a Stormtrooper grind rails around the Kremlin.

[@randomhawky978]

That's a clone trooper 😂

[@randomhawky978]

You can tell by the helmet

[@a3s1r1986]

@@randomhawky978 Still a stormtrooper as far as I care.

[@15DEAN1995]

That story about the mother and step daughter is tragic. The relationship a parent has with their biological children will almost always be different than what they have with their non biological children. The only exceptions I can think of are if the child was adopted as a baby or if the child was raised by a parent who fully believed the child was theirs, but it turned out later that the child wasn't. That bond is there because those parents have been there from the earliest stages of the child's life.

[@qiralyncassette]

My mom adopted me when I was four and our relationship is the same, I hate this whole biological vs non biological shit.

[@voltron8375]

Yea he prolly shouldn't have married a woman who didn't love his child. V.v

[@amanbirbthe4th967]

​@@voltron8375she does love the child though

[@00videovideo]

@@amanbirbthe4th967yeah but not enough to be a SAHM when had the chance

[@amanbirbthe4th967]

@@00videovideo but she quite literally didn't have the chance.

[@mrbananaa208]

Person: a clone could never grind a rail * spits out water *

[@Hunteriox-km3ic]

as my grade 8 teacher always said, "fairness isnt sameness"

[@dylanrodriguez7274]

Being a younger sibling I had a bit longer to learn about how to use my money and what to put it aside for in the future, which did help because I was able to buy the car I wanted and have enough leftover to use for myself or just hang on to it. But if I had half of an inheritance I would trust my own feelings and use what I already know about my other family members and how they use their money to determine if I should give them some if they ever ask for it because that's just how I can determine who will either take advantage of me or will be a good person and pay me back.

[@tundraghost429]

story 1: of course I'd lend my dear brother the money in the form a a legally binding contract that he'll repay that money later with interest with the full knowledge that he'll be fend and sent to jail if he doesn't.

[@shiroooo196]

This guy is stubborn as hell,he knew that he needed therapy but he give it up cause he still think he is right and everyone saying that his wife is right is wrong and they are "ganging up on him"

[@chrism9962]

Just spit out my drink from laughter when the brother asked for money because his girlfriend was in debt. From trying to scam the OP! Diet Coke all over the desk!

[@brendav4695]

I agree that from the outside it would look like favoritism for the 2nd story, but looking at it a little bit more in the context and with common sense tbh, supper sad with the outcome, almost cried when I heard what happened with lizzy

[@tsumokun5959]

2nd story. Neither are in the wrong. They have different views on this subject and both views are understandable. I think the big problem is the husband is thinking more of lizzie while the mother is thinking more of her relationship with her husband and unborn son. The husband doesn't want there to be any chance of resentment from his daughter. but it seems she resents him now anyways. Its kind of a lose lose situation for pops. Cuz lets be honest raising your first (newborn) child is not an easy task. It takes alot of attention and time. No one can tell the future but its quite easy to see the reality the husband is forming in his head if the mom becomes a stay at home. I dunno man. never been in this situation. i wouldn"t care personally if my wife became a stay at home. but i"m really feelin the connection with pops. also "fair doesn't always mean equality." f that quote. it makes since but i don't think it should be used when talking about loving your kids.

[@lolitabubbles26]

Except the husband isn't willing to compromise. He also refused to allow his wife to leave his house (as stated in original video). So yeah, he's in the wrong.

[@tsumokun5959]

@@lolitabubbles26 I mean, in reality it's really just two adults who aren't willing to compromise. They are both trying to get the same thing. That being a happy loving family. But they don't see eye to eye on how to properly get there. Thus no, neither are in the wrong.

[@yggdrasil1969]

@@tsumokun5959 The husband is wrong. He wants his son to be put in daycare out of some stupide "fairness" issue with his daughter, even though his daughter would benefit from a SAHP. But because OP didn't want to quit her job and be dependent on him BEFORE THEY WERE EVEN MARRIED, he's going to punish both kids because of some stupid idea of "fairness." He's definitely the AH. If he values a SAHP, then he should want that now for BOTH kids.

[@domesticdragonwaffle]

@@yggdrasil1969 ok now look at it as a parent. Your first priority, as this guy stated before, is to THE CHILD not the relationship. As a father, you can see it that your child might think of it as favoritism and that they are not truly loved because why didn’t she stay at home with you when you were younger but she’s doing it for HER child now? I swear, the husband needs to be willing to compromise but all you idiots acting like she’s a saint and not just as equally to blame about the blowing up can’t seem to separate the issue of your own feelings to thinking about the stability of a child’s mind and home life.

[@Crazy-Cat-Lady-of-CA]

​@@domesticdragonwaffleBecause the stepdaughter was already in pre-school when they got together, they weren't married, and Op's career was still being built.

[@scoutosaurus3473]

The kgb guard on the thumbnail after sending his entitled brother to the gulag:🗿

[@tanandalynch9441]

The therapist literally told him multiple times as to why the op would feel more attached to her biological son than a preschooler she didn't birth, that a literal infant needs more care than a preschooler, and that favoritism is gonna be normal and is perfectly fine as long as it's not blatant. it was also told to him by multiple people that she wasn't financially stable back then but is stable enough for it now. He refused to acknowledge this.

[@Morpheusdarkson]

It sucks that it’s seen as okay when women have favouritism but when a man wants a son he’s a misogynistic ahole.

[@tanandalynch9441]

@@Morpheusdarkson all parents have favoritism. It's normal. As long as you're not blatant about it. Op was trying to treat Lizzie the same way she always has.

[@00videovideo]

Yeah anyone that thinks that favoritism is okay is not a good person. The moment the therapist said that then I already knew that she wasn’t trying to help she just wanted him to cave to his wife’s selfish wants.

[@shepherdmungarevaani243]

A baby needs a lot of care not a few weeks or months the baby can or can't have a nanny because the baby will grow to think the nanny is the mother

[@0doublezero0]

Playing devil's advocate here, the OP in story #2 can't call it compromise if you want the husband to accept only your terms. While the husband is in the wrong, it doesn't help when all people don't want to accept his feeling on the situation. This is why him accepting OPs terms is impossible. The wife did nothing wrong, but she can't call it a compromise if she want the husband to accept 100% of her terms.

[@sanimchunu513]

Bro I totally agree with you

[@0doublezero0]

@@sanimchunu513 The channel uploader had it right, both people didn't want to compromise and acknowledge the other person's feelings. As a result, this was bound to happen.

[@dutchvanderbilt9969]

Your not wrong but if the husband doesn't wanna compromise why should OP?

[@LoreEclectic]

I mean, she wasn't even fully going to be a stay at home mom she was planning to work from home

[@0doublezero0]

@@LoreEclectic That's why my post is playing devil's advocate. Not saying he's right, just stating something overlooked.

[@corruptsolstice340]

If it feels like everyone is ganging up on you, always reflect to see if you might be wrong. If the people "ganging up on you" includes a literal professional doctor, you are almost guaranteed in the wrong.

[@randallricker7547]

I believe you should share your money with them. Give them $0.02 each. Lol

[@FerrumAnulum]

man... was hoping for a good ending on that one, but they all cant be happy I guess...

[@skIavenitis]

me too, I was really disappointed when the husband wouldn't back down

[@1mol831]

@@skIavenitis I think he was once abused.

[@blue_twitch___5371]

Love the stories

[@strongbackground7802]

If there’s one thing I have learned from these entitled people stories, it’s never take them at their word and lawyer up instead to get a better outcome.

[@dutchvanderbilt9969]

This guy fails to realize that when literally everyone says your the problem, you are the problem. It's not that everyone else is the problem.

[@dutchvanderbilt9969]

@Wildcard and your proof?

[@dutchvanderbilt9969]

@Wildcard How did she abandon Lizzie? The OP had no way of taking the kid with since she literally couldn't. And her husband clearly has some issues and was being very toxic towards her so she had to get out of there. I'm sure that if the OP could have shed have taken Lizzie with her without a second thought but she couldn't. The OP had to make a difficult choice either stay with her troubled husband and potentially face abuse for the sake of Lizzie and sacrifice her mental health. Or just leave but rest easy knowing the she won't have to face her husband's toxicity and that Lizzie won't be abused. And who knows maybe the OP and Lizzie will stay in touch and maintain a good relationship.

[@HeoBaby24]

@@dutchvanderbilt9969 she left to stay with her mother and only calling Lizzie who she said she see a fucking daughter And she didn't say the husband didn't forbid her from seeing her but she calms to "miss her very much" She painting him out as a super villain and her as a angel

[@dutchvanderbilt9969]

@@HeoBaby24 well ultimately it's up to the OP how she handles the situation

[@nancy0752]

@@HeoBaby24 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't she still pregnant during that situation? Being in a environment being with a man that you are seeing in a different light (weather you think she is right/wrong) must be incredibly stressful. From my understanding, she is trying to take care of her health so she has to leave. Along with not feeling safe with him while carrying their son. 😕 It most likely why she is not comfortable visiting Lizzy but tries to call often.

[@SofSof25]

If they could make a compromise of OP being a stay at home mom for their son till he goes to school then once he is in school Op can go back to work full time and the husband also gets his way kinda they both get their way just not in the way that they want

[@goldenpro1096]

Bro that clone trooper on that skate board has some epic moves

[@Anon-y-mous126]

That clonetrooper is shredding bro must have got time off from fighting on the battle field

[@thatzachguy76]

This husband has got some crazy serious issues. Hes beyond controlling and bullheaded to the point of hurting others all around him just to get his way like a fussy little child.

[@sanimchunu513]

I agree with you but don't u think that it was sus how the husband's Friends told him off. Like don't u think that the OP tried to get the everyone on her side?

[@thatzachguy76]

@@sanimchunu513 No? If I had a friend doing this and I was told the exact true situation I would go off on him too. A true friend is the one who tells you the truth even when it hurts.

[@RandoWisLuL]

even with yesterdays story, im sure we are missing information. this picture she's painting is bias towards herself( which makes sense because she's writing it ). Id like to hear his side from his eyes and then make that determination. Not all friends, even best friends, know everything about everyone. Out of the 3 friends that are married, only one is close enough that i could actually have input from my perspective because i hang around them a lot. The other two's wives ive met a number of times and know them a little but hardly ever hang around with the wives so it would be unfair for me to start suggesting shit.

[@thatzachguy76]

@@RandoWisLuL all you need do is look at the substance of the argument. She’s wanting to be stay at home for her son, he doesn’t want her to. It doesn’t matter why he doesn’t want her to because the very fact that he is in opposition to this brings into question motive. Why now does he have an issue with it? And if it’s for the reasons she stated then he is controlling. If it isn’t for the reasons listed above that’s even more worrying because what other argument could you have as to why you oppose something now that you were all for earlier when you weren’t in as good of a situation to fulfill. Also his refusal to go to counseling or stay with a therapists further puts him in the “being hard headed and controlling” column imo.

[@adamwalker3560]

@@thatzachguy76 Exactly, that's the meat of the problem. But why are there so many individuals concerned about the validity of the story? We objectively cannot prove/disprove it since we aren't personally involved. Also worth mentioning: what if the op's story is biased, in FAVOR of the husband, or leaves out things he has done that would be detrimental to his standing in this? It's perfectly possible, if those supposed things are too personal for the op to share, or if she wants to believe in him and over objectifies the situation in order to give an "unbiased" account. In any case, we can't know from this end if the computer screen any more than what we are told. *shrugs

[@ravenspurplebeats5412]

story 1: they had it coming, they tried to scam you & screw you over her loosing her job and going into debt was there own fault/greed now let brother and his partner dig there own way out as they got lot to learn.

[@SenseiRaisen]

For people who critizise the OP on the 2nd. YEAH! i get it ... but remember the guy has a MASSIVE HUGE ULTRA EXTRA LARGE trust issue who seems to never get over with it. He became a sturbbon idiot because he let his ex behaviour drill into his head and not fully accept OP in 1st place. You don't do that. If you wanna make demands, 1st show that you fully acept the other person's demands too and make some agreement. He need therapy but also he need to see what he is getting bad at, even with the unnecesary dog pile. Its like the ex. She drugging herself. You said: "drug is bad, don't do drug"... but she does drug. OP husband is doing the same. "Stop been an stubbon idiot and get over with your ex in your head" , but OP's husband is been an sturbbon idiot and let his ex goes into his head again.

[@SenseiRaisen]

@Wildcard yeah!! if you see it that way its also true. But in that one, key witness proves for more than 4 years she was a lunatic. Of course she acomplish all she wanted. Damage Johnny's career, reputation, and get sack from 3 movies out of Warner's idiotic behaviour. I can agree OP isn't telling the full story probably .... and i get why people are very skeptical about this. From my part, if its true, OP's husband need to leave that issue if want to reconect with her and SOONER. For other part i get that OP seems to make it looks as if she is playing favorites, and even she seems to carefuly wording it around that as well.

[@LoWithTheDown]

HAS HE EVEN THOUGHT about the fact that his wife may return to work once their SON is in preschool? Sadly, Lizzie will ultimately pay a massive price because her father refuses to see that LIFE changes. The fact that he’s trying to force this idea that there is a tangible level of equality between each child in a family is absolutely unrealistic. This is true whether or not they are step brother and sister or full-as your family grows, time and life continues to change. Sadly, her dad refusing to “bend so their family won’t break,” will cause Lizzie to think that she is owed something by everyone she meets in the future. Life isn’t fair and LIFE DOESN’T ALWAYS WORK OUT the same for each child or family member. He’s teaching her that she should always just assume that everything should be equal for her-and this pov is going to backfire terribly. And this is in addition to the heartbreaking fact that she’s missing out having a mom NOW! Also I’m pretty sure in a couple of years Lizzie is not even going to think once about the fact that she had a go to childcare and her brother didn’t!! The dad needs to think about looking out at his kids when they’re graduating and their life is getting started- if he could see how happy everyone will be if their family was able to stay intact and just be happy with each other!?! By making this child care vs stay at home, such a huge issue he’s completely ruining what Sounds like could be a really happy family, this should be way more of a concern to him-Again especially because Lizzie isn’t even going to care about this fact when she’s older.

[@ducklordofficial7124]

I love you're videos ❤

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

There's something really off about the story with the husband trying to guilt trip the OP into not being a stay at home mom. Maybe I've been listening to too many Reddit posts about cheaters, but his absolute insistence that his way is the only way and his inability to compromise makes me suspect there's an alternate, far more horrible, motive for him to be so insistent that his wife not be at home. I dunno, but with all these people against him and the way he won't listen to literally anyone and keeps acting like he's a victim when everyone around him is telling him he's bin the wrong makes me think he knows he's doing something wrong, but is trying to use this argument to hide something worse.

[@lindak8664]

3 minutes into this video. Your brother’s lawyer girlfriend’s letter is fraudulent. 5 minutes into this video. Yep, nailed it.

[@Vladthemmemer]

I like how the picture in the thumbnail is a dude with a Soviet hat on saying your money is ours and he’s skating around the red square

[@lvs1802]

I stand my ground with what I said before the mom of how she was in the wrong and all that. Even tho by the way she worded this time makes it cleat it's not that huge of favoritism but whatever. The husband here is a freakind idiot, I really believe the wife would've compromised with what the therapist "not acting on the favoritism or making it obvious" but the dude straight up destroyed the familt cause he didnt get his way, it was his way or the highway and when the op took the highway now he is mad the op kept his word? For as much as the mom did had some unfsir favoritism, the dad is ten times fold giving favoritism in a way the situation doesnt need it, dude really prefered to escalate the situation to the point his daughter doesnt have his mom anymore which defeats the damn point. It's honestly infuriating to see the man rather be right than have his family together, all this while the wife is pregnant mind you.

[@FlareUaot]

In the second story: of course you would love your own baby more then a baby that's not really yours, so I think the husband needs to think about it more.

[@wake6000]

If that was the case, then she has no business being married to him. If you are being married to someone who already has a kid, you are required to treat them with just as much love as your own kids. If you aren't mature enough to do that, you have no business marrying someone like that, or really being a parent at all.

[@christianmarshal6117]

When YOUR brother and friend side with your wife in an argument, you know you done f*cked up!

[@lylalogy1129]

I said this to a friend once. What’s mine is mine and was yours in mine. They started laughing 💀👌🏻

[@retro9054]

Me trying to figure out why a stormtrooper is skate boarding??

[@lordchungus9290]

Yeah

[@georgesosinsky6536]

Drug the brother and girlfriend let them wake up upside down 18 or more floors up and leave as if nothing ever happened.

[@williamnicholson8133]

First story brother and his gf get dosed with 500 hits of lsd each and get the shit beaten out of them then ducked taped to a tree and left there.