Feixiao vs The Herta: Who Offers Better Investment Value in Honkai Star Rail

[@kumalanimbus6995]

Feixiao made me not afraid to take adventure nodes in Simulated Universe Also SPEEEEEEEEEEED

[@Ghalion666]

God I hate that 30 barrel challenge in the herta space station room. Its hard enough but so many times I swear ai get them all but it says 29/30 and I cant for the life of me see what I missed. I guessed it was that ring-shaped area but I always make sure to get them all there and it still happens sometimes.

[@nutterdunuts]

@@Ghalion666 you need to hit the technique recovery object near the middle of the map to get the last barrel, since it counts as one. Also the last barrel near the very end always seem to have janky hitboxes for me, so that is the actually real concern since you have to stand really close to register a hit with Asta.

[@Ghalion666]

@@nutterdunuts i hit the tech point thing. Must be the last one. Though I use Fu Xuan instead of Asta if I dont have jingliu to just run by and pop them automagically

[@jhemp]

With Feixiao this literally so so easy.

[@boiledliddo]

the barrel, trotter, and vase adventure challenge are all so easy with Feixiao.

[@Yasuke001]

i think The Herta is gonna stomp for maybe 3 patches but rain supreme over PF forever

[@morninglettuce4866]

I think she’s gonna be 0.5 in everywhere but pf till actual teamates for her come out jade robin and lingsha are not even good for her on paper you don’t want speed that jade gives Robin attack buff and crit buff are negligible to herta and she has no follow up lingsha is obviously for break teams hertas best two teams are so bad at using her kit like for a jade team you don’t even use your e on herta you use it on lingsha I think screwlem and tribbe are gonna make this character tier 0

[@QueenMarika1101]

nahh fugue+himeko will reign on pf

[@velvetmoon6125]

@@morninglettuce4866 actually you want jade's speed because you can run atk boots and still get 134 speed

[@Ghalion666]

'stomp' is relative. I myself have been coping w ith Seele, Dr. Ratio, and Jingliu (who was basically completely useless for all of 2.x since almost nothing was ice weak and many enemies completely screwed you over for trying to brute force them without weakness breaking them) as my secondary team (Firefly being my main). Let's just say I'll be quite upset if she doesn't do significantly better for all of 3.x than than my poor Seele/ratio/jingliu did in 2.x. As for My Firefly, even if superbreak is no longer the new meta. I do expect it to be able to handle 3.x better than the 3 I keep mentioning in 2.x as well, at least for encounters that aren't specifically designed to counter superbreak

[@tornado2308]

@@Ghalion666 Ratio Mentioned!!

[@YamiYugi13]

With your explanation with archeron and The Herta you can also include Feixiao in it as well even if it’s not in the kit FUA comps includes at least 2 hunt anyway unless this changes

[@lybula]

I’m going for both since I went on a break when Feixao released and didn’t get her. I still want the Herta as well, so for now I have 100 pulls, one guaranteed, 64 pity and a dream.

[@dgamer2185]

I hope you can Achiever your dream😊

[@sawyerseth9832]

I believe in u. Gl

[@bumblebees4242]

The update will also have some free pulls and SJ available too, I believe in you!

[@lybula]

@@bumblebees4242 I’m counting on it! At least they’re as always quite generous with the free Jade, Owlbert be thanked (+ exploration rewards from the new planet!)

[@kian-ganji]

Lingsha is the true correct choice The true best erudition dps

[@Ghalion666]

I want herta more but yeah, Im salty I didnt get lingsha despite over 100 pulls then ran out.

[@kian-ganji]

@Ghalion666 I'm still pissed that i believe "only 10% better than Gallagher" and didn't get her for my firefly; now that i have firefly fugue and ruan mei i literally only need her to complete my first 100% premium team and I'll get castorice on 3.2 to complete my second premium team with Sunday robin and aventurine

[@Ghalion666]

@@kian-ganji i wanted her cuz aoe cleanse including the ability to self cleanse cuz pet. My (still) only 5* limited sustain is Fu Xuan. I love her but needing to cleanse is def her achilles heel (not big aoe, if you dont have her dont believe that nonsense, its pure bs). The aoe dps was just a cherry on top for me. I also wanted lingsha cuz Im a HI3rd vet and always wanted numi and uhh, I forget her name as playable characters. (Basically HI3rd lingsha kinda like it has bronya, bronya, and bronya, and mei/acheron and welt/welt, and Himeko/Himeko =p). Oh! Fuxi and Numi?

[@fazexd2637]

​@@kian-ganjiI'm not gonna say much, but Robin and Aventurine might not fit well with her.

[@howorwhat3088]

I was very lucky and did a random pull for Jade and I got her at 15 pity so my choice is Herta and with her i will cover all the elements and bis for all end games.😊

[@stephorelse]

It's very simple, the who's gonna have the endgame tailored to them, and it's not Feixiao's turn this time around

[@jimothy075]

Just lost my 50/50 on fugue and will most likely not get her, so this is the real question I needed answered

[@zxnli]

same now i have e2 gepard 😭

[@Starwind315]

@zxnli e6 Bailu.. : /

[@jimothy075]

e3 bronya 😭

[@zxnli]

@@jimothy075 atleast bronya is useable😭

[@zxnli]

@@Starwind315e6 is sad😭

[@nguyenlamle6290]

Man. I'm still undecided. Guess I'll go for The Herta first, and then pull for Feixiao with the remaining pulls that I can get from the patch.

[@nene2969]

A friend told me: do you really wanna skip on Feixiao's technique? Even though Herta shows you all treasure chests, the almost instant kill/gather enemies is so, so much more enticing as a new player. If you don't have any dps's, so you don't have Acheron either and have just reached lvl 60... I dunno, worth considering. Lately I've been spending hours just mindlessly killing mobs cause I gotta gather materials for traces and level ups... And having Feixiao will make that a lot more enjoyable. Though I will also be grabbing Robin and I already have Aventurine, so I'll also have her full premium team.

[@dan_chen]

Idk about you but my traces materials that don't require trailblaze power have never run out and only keep increasing (by this point I have amassed at least 3.5k for each type, some have reached 4.3k). And the only thing I did was sending out my characters for the automatic commissions and playing the various SU modes. Iirc around 1.3 my bulk of material gains came from swarm disaster, and it kept happening every time a new SU expansion came about (G&G, DU, UD). Every time there was a new type of material I just locked in and only sent my characters to the commission that had that type until it reached the same number as the others, same as whenever I used them to mass craft higher tier mats

[@dan_chen]

What I'm saying is, you don't even need those techniques to farm quickly, especially with the release of DU, you only really need Acheron for the quick clear and you got yourself a save file for the entire patch (thank god they buffed that, the weekly reset was insufferable), even so there's the weekly SU rewards reset so Acheron is still a big QoL

[@yutawirasena]

How do you even run out of those materials? I have over 6k for all of those and never farm for it.

[@nene2969]

@@yutawirasena I dunno, I started playing 3 months ago and tryibg to build like 2 teams of characters to clear stuff. I feel like probably a new player problem

[@nene2969]

@@dan_chen I'm sure that'll be the case for me too once I've played years or aren't constantly using mine to build characters! So far I don't even have traces beyond 6 on any (though tbh I just hit lvl 60) These are great tips for gathering those materials though, thank you!

[@Fakepeoplefake74829]

On power creep, the fact that two 1.0 characters, Jing Yuan and Himeko are arguably more competitive now than they were initially is encouraging. So…pull who you like out of the two, especially if you have teams built to support them.

[@nicolaskelvin8582]

Main point for me: The game seems to be REALLY going into an aoe meta to make you feel like you need Herta, it may last for long or not, but for now I lack good aoe damage dealers so Herta seems to be the wise choice

[@emperman]

End game buffs and enemy comps rotate sooner or later. Unless they introduce new mechanics that make some teams useless like introducing unbreakable enemies or something

[@tornado2308]

AOE meta def coming in But if you have good supports it doesn't really matter too much so far The upcoming 9 mil boss might be difficult tho without a proper AOE Char

[@alexanderredmond1795]

I feel like the quad banner is trying to train us away from "I'll get the rerun" mentality - because basically every character that I passed on in the latter 2.0 cycle, with the plan to get them when they rerun is showing up here, competing against The Herta and Aglaea for our resources. Since I'm very likely going to be putting my resources towards the new characters, I won't be going after any of the notable reruns without dropping a fair bit on extra jade.

[@shikikuma_san]

I'd honestly be happy getting both. Feixiao for dealing with ST content and The Herta for AoE (though I'm gonna be honest and say Feixiao had no problem dealing with the AoE content so far, yes even with the Banacademics, and she is consistently getting me 3-star clears in PF just by pairing 4* Herta with her). Objectively, The Herta is going to be shilled more in the upcoming patches so definitely get her first if you care about low-cycle endgame clears or are in need of a PF carry. She also has the potential to get stronger due to not having a BiS premium team catered to her strengths yet. TLDR; get Herta for upcoming AoE meta if you care about that, Fei is still good, especially if you have her FuA core, both are strong and gorgeous ladies.

[@twelfthharbinger3017]

i run feixiao and FF as my main teams and ive been planning to skip the upcoming metas until elysia’s expy release. i want to vertically invest in these teams (FF and Fei are E0S0) but ive just lost the 50/50 on FFs banner and idk whether to continue trying or save the guaranteed for fei eidolons or lingsha’s eidolons/lightcone?

[@shinxgowon]

player since day one and a misha main🤫

[@taozhang9799]

I don’t like how they lock QOL changes behind premium characters I.e. Acheron, Topaz, and now The Herta

[@allright29456]

Wdym, they already said they're gonna add the treasure compass. But I couldn't disagree with Acheron, her death slash is probably the best QoL powercrept we had so far.

[@yubaa]

The treasure finder QOL isn't locked behind characters anymore, they will have a new item for that. It's mentioned in the 3.0 Update Radio post.

[@Li-gq6yj]

I think it’s kinda obvious. Do you have Robin? No? Get Robin. There’s really no other objectively correct opinion. If you have Robin already, get E1. All these units are just DPS, all are gonna get power creeped by castorice in 2 months. Unless you already have E1 Robin, don’t even consider the rest, you’ll just regret it in 2 months.

[@LbLoujokerSobranie]

Can someone help I lost 50/50 in sunday I wanted fugue I'm currently 70 into pity but again I don't know anymore should I save my guaranted for herta then pull lingsha or what I'm supposed to do

[@ethanwong9733]

I got Feixiao Premium team, and love the character but I also don’t have ice coverage. My second team is Rappa super break team with Fugue + Lingsha + HMC. So I’m wondering if it’s better to go for vertical investment going for E2 Feixiao (E0S1 rn)or E1 Herta? Or skip both and should I try picking up S1 Robin LC and just save for 3.1+ (E1 Robin rn)

[@dronzer007]

I started the game of Feixiao banner was Lucky enough to win both her and lc. Moreover got her best support Robin too. I can easily clear 1 half of most the game modes with her, and now that pure fiction has changed Feixiao is lil better in it.

[@IgnasV]

Very unusual to prioritize light cone over Lingsha/Aventurine or some other character when you are just starting.

[@duckosson2650]

​@@IgnasVI assume he just had a lot of jades, I started around Yunli banner (2.4), and by the time Feixiao banner arrived I had like 250 tickets, so I got E0S1 Feixiao and E1S1 Robin

[@IgnasV]

@@duckosson2650 Main story is about 400 pulls. I also started on Yunlis banner, and finished on phase 2. Honestly her alone was such a bad pull for my account. Without signature or huohuo, performance has not been great. Mostly benched her after I got Feixiao and Robin, only great against hoolay and maybe Aventurine. Otherwise other teams do more. Personally, I got lucky with 50/50s or I have: Yunli, Feixiao, Robin, Aventurine, Rappa, Sunday E0S1, Fugue. And still ~300 tickets left.

[@number-1-furina-fan]

I'm going for both, but with only 180 pulls, wish me luck 😅 though I'll try for theee herta first. (I'm really aiming for moze eidolons lol)

[@vintagetimmy1893]

Also I main Feixiao, Robin, Adven, & Topaz/Hunt March & my other team is Rappa S1,RM,HTB, & Gally

[@spyrothetimelord]

I think I might pull for Feixiao's weapon on her rerun (been using the hunt BP one, she's perfectly strong with it) and absolutely love her with Moze/Topaz (sorry March, still ain't building you). I've also really loved using her hypercarry with Sunday. Planning to get Big Herta because she's strong af and I am glad to have another emanator be a character I was looking forward to. I have a team picked out with crit Lingsha, Jade, and Sunday. Was thinking that Feixiao does have room for growth though... eventually they will create units with similar/overlapping kits or just new ones that have synergy. Sure her premium team might not change too much but not everyone wants to play Robin, not everyone will get Aven, not everyone likes Topaz, so on and so forth. She has an f2p option and gacha option in March and Moze. And Herta has her mini self with a few others.

[@TheGIJoe69]

Every account needs Robin. If you don’t have Robin I would consider pulling her before pulling on anything else.

[@Shinigami344]

What do I need her for lol, I run Acheron and break teams

[@shoiko]

Ice is the only party I dont have a setup for. Plus I wanna use Serval more and this is her time...

[@blursedpasta7718]

why herta is good future wise is most of enemy releases always favored adjacent damage characters even with singular enemy (like Hoolay) they still dominate them.

[@sylas3265]

Im going for Feixao myself bc i have already accidently built the best fua team. Topaz was an accident, ratio was free. Aventurine was a desperate need for a preservation unit, and Robin was a massive harmony unit i missed the first time (i lacked any 5* harmony except for bronya at the time) Feixao would be perfect for my wind weakness enemies and i need her help!!!

[@DefiantPlays-wp7bt]

Fexiao isn’t an Emanator, just clarifying😊😊😊

[@misamisaa4547]

I got Feixiao for my birthday & she's literally my strongest character. I won't be pulling for eidolons 'cuz I don't have the jade lol

[@SniperDoogie]

I Go for Feixiao E6 have her E0 😅 would love to have Herta and Lingsha but I wont have any ressources After she is out of pulls 🙈 have no Sunday so Aglea would struggle …

[@vintagetimmy1893]

E6 will waste alot of resources, but that will ensure she will be meta at E6 for years to come.

[@SniperDoogie]

@ I love Feixiao thats why though I would Need desperately a second dps 🙈👀😂 we will See how the pulls will affect my decision and if I will be able to get to the Finish line in First Place

[@rijho123]

Thanks to Lingsha AOE's ability great enough for the new PF and Banana boss on MOC and AS, I could skip Rappa and Fugue. I have 200++ tickets for any new META starting with The Herta since I failed to get Sunday. She even turns my Firefly into her Fire implant support. LOL

[@theshellderinslowbrostail5422]

Get the newer unit always if its between and old or new unit. But also have patience and wait for showcases and numbers. Only exception is supports cuz they dictate the meta in this game it seems.

[@valrath4450]

Hey i need some advice here. im a new player and ineed a good dps for my second team. so i have Robin, Aventurine and Sunday. in the next patch, which one should i pull for? Feixiao / Aglaea / The herta? :)

[@Number1JeffLover]

Honestly I’d save for aglea just because of Sunday being able to fully support her

[@valrath4450]

Now im so confused lol

[@DarkAsDeath]

@@Number1JeffLover no she is the first of her kind we need to see others before we can judge. Everyone said that about jingliu and how good she was. and now straight up she’s just horrible. A million buffs and barely hitting for 100k on 3 targets is not what I would like to call good. At the time it was good but now it’s just almost unusable for almost any endgame content.

[@DarkAsDeath]

@@valrath4450I’ll try to summarize it for you. You have aventurine and robin. Add the follow up hunt march 7th path. (Which you get for free) then get feixiao on this banner. Then you have a perfect team Aventurine as sustain Robin as support Feixiao as dps March 7th hunt path as sub dps It’s the perfect combo and is the one I’m going for too The herta is cool but it kinda requires other characters that you haven’t mentioned. Other aoe characters are preferable to build stacks with her Edit- I would highly not recommend aglea even tho you have Sunday ( I have him too and will be skipping her) Why? Because she’s the first of her kind. If I know hoyoverse and gacha games well. There will be a stronger dps down the path remembrance. (Due to power creep which is pretty bad in this game) And if she’s not weaker you can get her on a rerun.

[@valrath4450]

​@@DarkAsDeath aight then I'll just get feixiao and then save up for castorice banner, Thanks for your explanation it rly helps me as a new player.

[@RoboMAS1]

(5:20) Lol, I'm still a firm believer of Misha Break DPS till this day. His performance is greatly enhanced by Fugue but still not enough to compete imho. I believe he is best suited as a Sub DPS in a Frozen team comp (like the Rememberance path in SU). That said, I'm grabbing The Herta for 3.0

[@Gottaloveaxolotls]

Now I’m curious how a Misha Anaxa comp could go since- (Read below if you don’t mind some rumors/leaks) he is rumored to be nihility ice, albeit a potential dot one with remembrance/disassociation like abilities but this is all subject to change so take it with a grain of salt

[@trongoan4342]

If you have Bronya E2(quite easy right now with free 5* pick) and Robin(E0S0) You DON'T need any FUA unit to run with Feixiao. I clear 2.6 MOC in 2 cycle with Fei(E0S1) Robin(E0S0) Bronya E2 and Gallagher

[@gpgmynos]

And if replace Bronya to Sunday?

[@yeonhanneul]

Cant bc sunday cant buff speed​@@gpgmynos

[@gpgmynos]

@@yeonhanneul 😔

[@s2ephantom09]

My foxian general will forever be my first carry(sadge)

[@emperman]

I have herta and her lc guaranteed in 20 pulls. If i can hold off not blowing my guarantee on fugue.

[@XieRH1988]

One is for MOC one is for PF so pick which mode you want to perfect-clear

[@ghostokardo2682]

my only decent dps unit is acheron lmao, and I dont have Robin. So I am really confused as to who I am supposed to pull. I loved Feixiao's design when I saw her in the story and all. But The Herta is dope and quite enticing..I want a good dps and Robin man. I am cooked with those banners..

[@kune6208]

I kinda feel like that Fei Xiao is very niche. I have her with Herta Store Lightcone and with very good stats but I dont have Adventurine and Topaz. With only Robin she is not even close to her potential that she has with the premium team.

[@Flappy741]

Has he already done Fugue vs B. Herta somewhere?

[@kaifXD]

I think The herta is indeed a good pick for me But idk why but i want to get lingsha but i already have luocha and huohuo along with gallagher for abundance,and ppl r saying she can be used with hmc as main dps or even do a crit build and run with sunday? Like idk what to do :(

[@vintagetimmy1893]

I don't think i'm pulling for anything until I see the new meta. Sunday was my last pull and I got lucky and got his S1 3 hours before his banner was over. I'm saving up until we get the dps that Sunday makes busted and I highly doubt it will be Aglea!

[@Number1JeffLover]

Sunday is a easy pick as the new characters will probably revolve around him

[@LunarVoid2007]

So I guess I go for feixiao since I already have aventurine and topaz And definitely and pulling robin for favs

[@ssmrj19]

So I've been running my Feixiao(E0S0) with Robin, March 8th and Aventurine/Lingsha (depending upon the enemy comp). Should I replace, March 9th with the Doctor or is the team comp fine? I will be pulling for both Madam Herta and Feixiao LC on the upcoming patch, since I'm guaranteed both. I just need some help building a better team to complete MoC.

[@tornado2308]

@ssmrj19 don't use Ratio You won't be getting any buffs from him like March Gives And you'll have heavy skill point issue

[@hellfrozen3678]

I said this to many people already,but The Herta is different than most dps units in this game as she has a much more versatile kit than them,Feixiao may have verry high dmg right now and her thoughness breaking is verry good,but she's verry much powercreep(able) just like any dps unit in this game,acheron was just like feixiao,until firefly/feixiao came out,their kit makes so that they can be replaced when a higher dmg scaling character comes out,but Herta has a verry big advantage over typical dps units,she has Support capabilities along her high dps value,so even if she gets powercreeped,she will still be usable,because her 80% crit dmg boost and speed % boost is something comparable to having a 2nd harmony unit in your team(while she also has extremely high dmg ceiling herself),so as long as there's a good erudition unit in this game,Herta will thrive,I would say the same for Kafka,but dot has not come back yet,but I bet to you,once dot becomes a thing again,Kafka will become S tier easily

[@AmirulIzzuan07]

Well I already have FF and Acheron does THerta still must have for me?

[@vintagetimmy1893]

For Ice Coverage sure, but we won't know how good she is till the new Meta is here!

[@AmirulIzzuan07]

@@vintagetimmy1893 better wait for her gameplay?

[@mattyd337]

I’d go for The Herta. I have Feixiao and she’s collecting dust. I use Acheron and Firefly for everything. Not a fan of hunt characters. Only pulled her cause she was a badass in the story.

[@Ixs4i]

funny how i feel the opposite for acheron cause i skipped jq even though i went through the trouble of pulling her lc in her rerun lol.

[@Hyacinthfall]

Demoted into housemaid haha

[@thecomte7367]

​@@Ixs4i i use acheron with sunday instead of jiaoqiu and it works perfectly

[@Mikaela_77]

Ur Feixiao is collecting dust cus you don't have a team built around her, the same way my Acheron is collecting dust instead cus I don't have Jiaqiou. E2 Feixiao with a good team is no joke, even better than Acheron at the same investment.

[@Ixs4i]

@@thecomte7367 unfortunately i skipped him too because i did not feel he would benefit my current account, no plans for aglea as i wish to pull the herta instead, and my ff was e1 by pure chance compared to my e0s1 acheron so investing into break felt better having also pulled lingsha, so i skipped sunday for e2 ff and fugue. like atp id need to skip a lot of banners to get acheron to the same level that my feixiao and firefly are (need at e1 or e2 + jiaoqiu + sunday) and i dont wanna completely ignore remembrance moving forward (castorice nation here we come) so like. its just not worth it. despite everything though, just having acherons lc and running dotcheron is actually enough to make them competitive still esp in content where feixiao struggles, its my go to pf team for instance, so its not all bad plus i get to use kafka and black swan still. but in moc and as unless the buffs really heavily synergize to debuffs or dot yeah i dont use her as much anymore.

[@adityawahyu9198]

This is the video that i need 😁

[@sserg90]

The fact that we are very hesitant about choosing Feixio and already discussing a possibility of a powercreep makes me really lose interest in this game little by little. Since losing my 50/50 to her last time, I haven't pulled anyone and I am not sure that I am going to pull this patch anyone either.

[@scarlettlav]

I personally hunt is such a sad path, if they don’t have follow up in their kit their damage will be subpar and they’re very short lived, I hope hoyo can do some tweaking with hunt path in the future

[@Gottaloveaxolotls]

Boothill holding strong with his niche or not just super break but break in general since he doesn’t need super break to work wonders, part of why I’m pulling him in his next rerun no matter what. Plus I love the rangers lmao That said it doesn’t negate the inherent weakness of break being if they have weakness lock it’ll be tougher, so while he does BIG ST you are right for the most part imo

[@kuriko306]

I used boothill to clear all aoe content since his release lol. Speak for yourself tho

[@LPScarlex]

L take. You say that but if Seele released with 2.0 or even 3.0 stat multipliers everyone would be crying that a Hunt character is busted on PF Give Seele a skill multiplier of 400% and then ultimate mult of 600% and she instantly becomes meta again. And before you think "oh that seems excessive" 1000% is about in range of the total combo (skill talent ult) multiplier of Feixiao

[@serikazero128]

"Feixiao has really stood the test of time" @9:40 - "She was released 6 months ago" My dude, my was released recently, on 9th September. September is month nr9 in the year. Her barrner lasted until 2 October, month nr 2. We are on 5 January right now. Its NOT EVEN 3 MONTHS ago!!! The last DPS released was Rappa, and before Rappa there was Feixiao. What test of time? since her release, they only released 1 more DPS. Like, some parts of your video are fine, but others are factually false.

[@serikazero128]

and now they are starting to release a bunch of new DPS: Herta DPS 3.0 Aglea DPS 3.0 Mydei DPS 3.1 Castorice DPS 3.2 Like, she's strong but lets be realistic. The future is full of DPS. And yes, in 6 to 7 months after her release, Feixiao will be compared to the other 5 DPS that were released after her and you can say if she "stood the test of time" then :)) So far, the only DPS that stood the test of time is Jing Yuan, as he keeps getting buffed almost every batch by different supports or relics. For comparison. Jingliu was released in 1.4 - 11 October 2023, basically 11 months before Feixiao 9th September 2024 After Jingliu's release she was nr1 DPS for a while. However: 1.4 - Topaz 1.5 - Argenti 1.6 - Dr. Ratio 2.0 - nothing, unless you count Black Swan as a DPS 2.1 - Acheron 2.2 - Boothill 2.3 - Firefly 2.3 - Jade 2.4 - Yunli 2.5 - Feixiao 2.6 - Rappa 2.7 - nothing, unless you count Fugue as DPS So, if we take a small look back, 6 months after Jingliu's release we have Acheron, and she ain't top of meta anymore. 9 months later, with Firefly's release, I can't even use Jingliu in MoC despite having her E0S1 and very well build. 12 months later, with Feixiao's release, Jingliu is mid. Despite once being the queen of DPS. Its already been 3 months since her release, in the next 3 months, 4 more DPS will drop on the scene. So, my expectations is that she will be power Creep in 3.1 or 3.2 she will no longer be top tier. From what we know Herta is Ice, Aglea is electro. Both AoE, so, expect Mihoyo to make enemies that cater to that playstyle more. in the next 2 months. Mydey is Imaginary most likely also a bit of AoE or more who knows. And Castorice is expected Quantum, I also expect a bunch of AoE in her Kit. Which in turn should mean: Jingliu gets a bit better, obviously tho, not top tier. Jing Yuan gets a bit better.......... again, Dan Hang IL gets a bit better. While Feixiao gets slightly words due to more AoE enemies. So, my expectation is that she'll get power creep in about 3 months at best for her. Hence, future value ? - mid

[@andersonsamuel123]

I dont understand you, how can you say she is not F2P friendly, she is the most f2p friendly unit we have, Serval is her best partner by far. I think for some reason you hate The Herta. Feixiao without Robin is super bad.

[@obamassirname9190]

as the bigest herta fan i will asy your opinion culd not be more wrong.The herta is def not the most f2p frendly but she is very f2p frendly. They have the same amount of f2p "friendlynes"

[@andersonsamuel123]

@@obamassirname9190 the herta uses, serval, rmc and pela, how is that not super f2p friendly.

[@s.w.6260]

i believe feixiao can do it like , feixiao m7 moze robin, and do huge amount of damage due to fua and robin while on the other hand the herta team is also f2p with 4 stars, but im not sure she can do like that, also its not like we get e6 rmc, on 3.0, right ?

[@andersonsamuel123]

@@s.w.6260 hmm in the team you mention you are using another five star (robin) while the original point was about only 4 stars. I will not talk depth about any leaks but you DONT NEED E6 of RMC, what you need is what is shown in the official stream, the action advance RMC provides with the memosprite.

[@s.w.6260]

@@andersonsamuel123 bro, i think you kinda miss my point too, but its ok, as herta believer myself, i really like herta i will spend all in for herta, but to say that she is most f2p friendly, while thinking serval as best partner, it sounded kinda bias

[@sandeepinuganti8791]

@0:21 feixiao is competitive vs acheron? 🤣she's literally gigastomping acheron in moc and as... and in purefiction she is actually competitive vs acheron.

[@WILLSv-H]

1:54 fei only need robin and robin is very good with alot of team in general so i don't think it's very very preminum xD

[@tornado2308]

@WILLSv-H same things happen to Ratio People assume they can only work in one team and are useless outside that

[@Ryuoinsomnia]

How abt Herta vs Agalea?

[@2k3d]

Lol i already have feixiao and her team. I guess im going for the herta

[@marianamartinez9070]

My question is: Boothil, or feixao?

[@Number1JeffLover]

Boothill only if you have a robin

[@marianamartinez9070]

@Number1JeffLover i have robin, fugue, bronya, moze, aventurine

[@Number1JeffLover]

@ hmmm you could do a brake team with fugue or a hypercarry with boothill robin you’re choice either way aven is in both teams

[@jiunhaoneoh3482]

E2 Serval has also been theorycrafted to be an excellent battery for The Herta.

[@mikoajbaszczyszyn4568]

For new players, The Herta is the only reasonable choice. Maybe she won't be crazy in single-target at the start, but Feixiao gets no good teammates for free until Sworddance. I guess if you get Moze from her banner, but without high Eidolons, March is better. The Herta gets Smol Herta for free from SU, eliminating RNG, and her second-best support is RMC. I don't know if new players will be able to immediately access Amphoreus, but if so, they you have her team mostly-built.

[@bem3760]

Asuming everyone pull for Robin first because she just HER. Then Feixiao is better choice because the only relevant teammate for Feixiao to work smoothly is Robin for 2nd FuA she can use small Herta for new players and any sustain.

[@hasibulazamsehab866]

It sucks that the herta will be almost game breaking. Way too much power creep.

[@taozhang9799]

I agree. Any more playable emanators and we will all be screwed

[@HoKaung]

I try argenti+the herta+Sunday+huohuo

[@Number1JeffLover]

That’s good but I feel like either jade or Himeko might be better

[@HoKaung]

@Number1JeffLover I try double dps

[@rrenpaii]

Ive the premium fua team (incl topaz and fei lc). That team is incredibly busted, but super annoying in PF. The herta looks to be a character that you can clear any endgame mode rather easily, so for the sake of clearing the game you should pull the herta over feixiao - no doubt.

[@kokoro212]

How you can't get 40k point in pf with feixiao+ robin +small harta? I've been using them since feixiao banner, 40k points all the time.

[@shikikuma_san]

You can replace Topaz in this case with 4* Herta. Been doing that since 2.6 and have been getting perfect clears ever since. Saved me the need of getting more limited Erudition units.

[@rrenpaii]

@@kokoro212 I can, I think its just super annoying when compared to other teams. It also requires you to build multiple characters and we all know how frustrating that can be. So getting the herta and have a team that can clear all easily is an advantage.

[@kokoro212]

@@rrenpaii it just small Herta and Himeko. A week it's all need to lv80 them and lv10 their traces. For new player, The Herta is definitely better as EOD said.

[@USMChing]

i regret pulling for Fei Xiao. My Acheton and Firefly teams can zero cycle everthing.

[@Xtraflossy]

One is a staple charector, so longevity goes ro Herta. I dont have a ice damage dealer, so herta it is.

[@weregretohio7728]

They're going to make sure Herta is relevant (outside of PF) for the near-future. Always felt like we were one patch away from them dumpstering Feixiao, which sucks.

[@serepraxis7182]

Herta looks better tbh, the amount of crit damage you can build on her without any substats is crazy, something like 300% with Sunday and Bronya supports along with an Erudition of your choice. If single target fights don't break her kit (abilities not repeating) then Herta will easily take the cake

[@Raigaara]

I'd skip both. Feixiao is on her way out so I definitely wouldn't recommend any dps on a rerun unless you're vertically investing

[@MrFrexys]

Therta gunna have a premium team before Acheron. They really have no idea how to design a premium team for Acheron without breaking the game huh.

[@IgnasV]

What is Acheron missing? Isn't Aventurine/Lingsha (with lightcones), Jiaoqiu, Sparkle/Bronya/Sunday/Robin, really good on her already?

[@lucke3924]

@@IgnasVthat premium team only work for E2 Acheron is it not? So technically missing one more nihility that better than sw and not 4*

[@IgnasV]

@@lucke3924 Acheron asks for 3 nihilities at E0? I thought it was 1 other and not 2 other. 3 nihilities and no harmony is kinda crazy.

[@gunfights-]

@@IgnasV Only 2 but you need sustain and there isn't nihility sustain yet. So you use pela, jq, and aventurine. But pela is such a mediocre character, need to upgrade her badly.

[@thescar429]

Herta is so pixelated

[@stephennegron7560]

Never liked that fox lady 🤢gimme The Herta ❤

[@justrenzo123]

The Herta The Herta The Herta