Ep. 102 - Long Range Made Easy

[@hornady]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@JB-uk7mn]

🎉🎉🎉

[@paulmartin6895]

Same to you all. Thank you

[@RMM--uv7uk]

Gobble Gobble

[@clintivy623]

Frying my turkey and listening as we speak!

[@paulmartin6895]

I had rabbit

[@hypervdm]

I've made the comment before, Jayden has an amazing mind getting theoretical to physical. He is my spirit animal!

[@CplSkiUSMC]

Hey Seth, never knew... Semper Fi! My first long range experience was Edson Range at Pendleton... 500 meters with an M-16A1 and those good old iron sights. I was raised shooting and took NRA Marksmanship Training when I was 12 years old, so by the time I got to the Marine Corps, I was already a good shot. But, coming from the Northern Michigan woods, there were very few places where long distance shooting was even possible so I had a gap in my skills. I used the Marine Corps program but never really understood long range until I moved out here to Wyoming and started shooting 500... 1000... a mile... then I had to learn wind. Initially I learned to shoot the wind instinctively, the swag method works well for those who have the innate ability, but when dealing with these Wyoming winds, it's tough to swag a 30mph gusting cross wind at 1100yds. Even with 4DOF, which is incredible, those instincts still have to work overtime. I think the most important part of long range shooting is the desire to learn it. If a shooter is driven to learn it, to challenge it, and to do it... then most will succeed at it.

[@MrBbracken]

Love this stuff. As an FYI my favored zero distance is 35 yards for my 6.5 CM. 35 yd zero also works as a zero at 215 yds all else being equal (140 ELDM). That’s when environmental conditions come into play with a zero set that was not affected by any environmentals (at 35). It works pretty well out to 4-500 yds without serious variations. I also load my own.

[@willo7734]

4DOF is a great calculator. As far as the more advanced inputs go I have a philosophy of leaving options at default if I don’t know what they are. Having the huge list of bullets from Hornady and other manufacturers available for BC info is invaluable.

[@kenneider5317]

Happy Thanksgiving!! From the deer stand today!!!

[@hornady]

Right on!

[@chrisrepski5940]

I love your approach to engaging the standard hunter! So many things you guys discussed is what I’ve gone/did through in the past is on point! Great job guys!

[@hornady]

Good stuff!

[@FredWeaver-b3k]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. These videos are awesome and FULL of useful information!!

[@hornady]

Glad you like them!

[@paulmartin6895]

Thanks going into detail on this to keep it simple to understand.

[@hornady]

You're welcome!

[@mauricelinton5867]

Y’all have been dropping these videos right on time 😅

[@jamesdean8809]

Happy Thanksgiving! Weaponized Math makes shooting from 300-1000 yards easy.

[@Wyo2Wis]

Frank Galli +

[@lambdabear8494]

Weaponized autism is a hell of a drug 😅

[@bobmccune9381]

From someone who doesn't have the money to buy the cool stuff. This is great information . One suggestion. Spend the money on good ammunition that your gun likes. Hornady rules.

[@goodguydf102]

Yea, thanks for the advice….downloaded the app during a TV commercial. App is so cool I missed the rest of the show!

[@giledgar1948]

Thank you so much for your podcasts! I'd love to have dinner with you, Seth, and Senior Ballistician, Jayden Quinlan. I would enjoy picking your brains of you vast knowledge.

[@TTT-du6oj]

Hard to get too much ballistics talk and different ways to park that bullet in the desired location,Happy Thanksgiving Hornady from Tennessee 👍

[@BitsOfEternity]

I am going to use my drone this summer, to set up my targets. I'm referring to the drone's ability to tell me the distance it is away from the controller. In other words, from wherever I set up the rifle, I can fly my drone out to 300 yards and land it, then drive my truck out to that spot and set up my targets, and then fly it back to 200y, and then back to 100y, and back to 50, 25, etc. I had a rangefinder, but it stopped working, and I will buy one for when I go hunting, but for target pracitse, for zero'ing, it can't get any more accurate than a drone that is talking to a bunch of GPS satellites.

[@clintcarpenter8423]

Happy Thanksgiving All. Setting here sick on the couch. If I can’t be shooting I’m leasing and learning.

[@DanielReyes-hz1qk]

Good morning and Happy Thanksgiving! 🦃

[@hornady]

Good morning!

[@jaredpalmer270]

I need a podcast on why you need a long range 22lr and maybe set up options and best zero distance for it! I really need Seth to convince me to just do it!!!

[@UtilityBi11]

Nice NRL Hunter coffee cup! I have one just like it.

[@peterconnan5631]

Nice video. A rabbitholer's question: should one determine the height of the optic over the bore, or over the chamber?

[@hornady]

Center of either, wherever is easiest to get an accurate measurement

[@OGBRADASS]

Ammunition temperature plays a greater roll than ambient temperature.

[@dontbetreadin4777]

Taking the 220 Swift out to 500 today, 60Gr SP (Hornady of course ;) )

[@aaawman2280]

I was trying out 4dof at the 300 yd range. It required almost 6 moa at that distance using 43 grains of varget and a sierra 165 tipped game king, which is not in the bullet selection, I used the 168 match instead. What I found was that 6 moa at 300 put me so high I was off target over the top. So I found that 3 moa was the magic, so why was it so off. I did have to guess at my velocity but I used my lyman manual, hornadys loading manual and hogdons web manual to get a pretty close guess to what my velocity should be, between 2550 and 2585 out of my savage 110 with 22 inch barrel. No matter how I changed velocity speed I could not get the ballistics to match, when I got home I was looking at 4dof and was playing with the shooting angle, at 26 to 29 degrees the ballistics match pretty close to my dope needed, the angle I did not change while at the range, I don't thank the angle is that steep, but it is an up hill shot but not 20 something degrees. I'll keep playing with it but it's seeming iffy for me at the moment.

[@ernieforrest7218]

So have they improved the wind reading tool to read the wind at the target location? Hmmm. Are the apps as good as a sighter shot?

[@williamsonnie9935]

I wish the 4DOF app would auto populate a standard temperature along with the pressure at the entered altitude.

[@MrCclimeGo]

I can't figure out how to post a screenshot of it, but there's a picture of how to estimate wind speed, on the National Weather Service website. 🤙

[@barbarapiercy4312]

HELP!!!!! I’m getting back into competitive shooting. While setting up 4DOF, there’s the question of the scopes height above the bore. With a standard picatiny rail this is a straight forward question. My rifle has a 20MOA rail on it. Where do I measure from? Nominal, objective, eyepiece, somewhere else? I really need an answer. I’ve been out of this game for 40+ years. I never used anything other than a standard rail.

[@hornady]

Try and do it as close to the turrets as possible

[@ethanharris5556]

One feature I wish the hornady ballistic app had was the ability to pull environmentals from the nearest airport like geo ballistics

[@TennGrizz]

If I remember correctly the Garand was only a 2MOA rifle.

[@charlesschenck911]

Windage: Angle the flags fly out from the flag poles for "light" winds. Angle the trees bend over for hurricane force winds.

[@MichaelBailey-h2f]

What the reloader using hunting bullet's?

[@Johnny-y7j]

I’d rather dial on my scope now then using holdovers I used to

[@spysweeper]

Happy Thanksgiving!!!

[@hornady]

Same to you!

[@reddogleader1968]

☮and good cheer.

[@robsnotes4u]

I shoot Hornady ELD-x that my good friend loads for me for my 300 Win Mag. Great bullet, but the best ballistic calculator i have found, thought he US is is banning him now due to sanctions with Russia, is Strelok Pro, and it isn’t even close

[@richardleejagers6016]

Interwsting disscusion. I cut my teeth shooting way pre ballistic calculators and cronographs. 1983 I started gunsmithing school at TSJC. my long range shooting at the time was done at the newly opened NRA Whittington center and the Bill Prator school range. Everything was pretty much based off of the ballistic tables in the back of loading manuals and speed was estimated by matching drops at known distance.

[@Spartan.88]

I would love to get help with the ballistic calculator App by Hornady but no help by Hornady at all

[@hornady]

Shoot us an email at [e-mail] Would be happy to help.

[@derekedgley5074]

I’ve been Varmint shooting and deer since 1969. You name it I’ve owned and shot most of the legacy cartridges big and small. I do a lot of load development for a precision rifle builder so also very familiar with a lot of the modern rifle cartridges. I’ve a Tikka VM in 6.5 PRC with 24” barrel but the Hornady factory round only gives 2824fps way below what is listed on the box with surprisingly a 26” test barrel which I thought would have be more appropriate to have been based on a 24” or under as whose building selling 6.5PRC with a 26” barrel ? So I’ve worked up a load using the 143ELD-X using 59.5grains IMR 8133 providing a chronographed average of 9 shots @ 2922 MV, placing one on top of another at 103"5 yards muzzle to target but the stats are crap. Now, like most, I’m striving for high average velocities allied to small ES and single figure SD but these aforementioned are way off yet seemingly very accurate. I therefore back off to typical deer ranges, 235yds and benched making a very small group of five shots. Weather has been terrible hereabouts in NE Scotland and not conducive to zeroing testing etc but soon as improved, I’ll be trying this load out to several hundred yards to ascertain it’s performance at an extended range. My question meantime, is, how come I’m obtaining seemingly accurate results but the stats are so poor?

[@ernieforrest7218]

Shouldnt you be starting this conversation by stating what bullet design is being used? For example, the bullet drop for a 3006 sighted in at 100 yards with a round nose bullet, will be quite different at 400 than one zeroed with a pointed spitzer bullet.

[@Avg_Vet]

I would beg to differ, sex is better than that