EP-194 | Artificial Intelligence, Ola Electric, Big Tech Monopolies & Religion ft. Bhavish Aggarwal

Bhavish Aggarwal is the Chairman and Managing Director of OLA. He is an experienced entrepreneur who founded Ola Cabs in 2010, which is now India’s most popular ride-hailing service with over 50% market share.
In 2021, Bhavish started Ola Electric, a company focused on electric vehicles. Within three years, Ola Cabs and Ola Electric together are valued at over $13 billion.
His latest venture, Krutrim, launched in April 2023, became India's first AI unicorn. Krutrim is developing a full AI computing stack, including cloud infrastructure, and advanced silicon for data centers.
Bhavish graduated from the Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay, with a degree in Computer Science.
In this edition of the ANI podcast with Smita Prakash, Bhavish shared his vision for India's tech future, critiqued Western tech dominance, and advocated for greater autonomy and data sovereignty in India's AI efforts.
With plans for an IPO and expansions into EVs, Bhavish envisions India leading in technology and societal change. He emphasized the importance of India developing its own tech and cultural paradigms to maintain national data and narrative control.
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Timestamps
00:00 - Coming Up
01:51 - Introduction
03:08 - Tech Giants’ Attire
05:45 - Oats vs. Ice Salvo
11:04 - Lithium Tech Sustainability
15:32 - Supply Chain Importance
23:50 - Taiwan: Computing Industry Hub
26:12 - Krutrim: India’s Own AI
33:00 - American CEO vs. Indian CEO
39:30 - Who Owns Digital Data
43:52 - Ola vs. Uber
46:12 - Childhood Story
51:11 - Working Hours Debate
55:18 - Job Creation Business
58:12 - India’s Startup Boom
1:00:00 - From Ola Cabs to EVs
1:10:05 - Women Workforce
1:12:20 - Ola IPO Launch
1:14:00 - Cost-Effective EVs
1:23:28 - Ola Bikes
1:27:44 - Krutrim Competitors
1:32:20 - Govt Support to EV Industry
1:36:06 - True & False Segment
1:47:58 - Snap Reaction Segment
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[@ROHIT690THAKUR]

I love what he had done with Ola stopping using Big Tech cloud service and using Krutrim cloud. And instead of Google Maps he's using Ola in house Maps.

[@kameswararao3809]

Chehraa dekhne se lag rahaa hi mere Umar ki isaab se tum bacche ho see that india succeeds my intrest is not to put world in poverty and india only to prosper indian philosophy is not only sarve Jana sukhinibhavantu but samasta loka sukhinibhavantu see that what other people think but our nature should be every human being gets his bread and survives on this earth beta please work on in it one day you are respectected for what you have done for mankind jio beta god be with you jai hind

[@patelaakash267]

@@kameswararao3809what the hell are you even saying. First learn to write clearly so people understand what you mean to say.

[@prince.8022]

He is also in partnership with Vikram Sampath's initiative of recrafting, rebuilding Indian History.. He is a truly Nationalist person..

[@user-kd7pm4qc3j]

Also investor in The Wire

[@lovedeepsidhu7454]

​@@user-kd7pm4qc3jwire is best

[@IndicRevolutionary]

@@user-kd7pm4qc3j is it??

[@chetantalele5841]

@@user-kd7pm4qc3j Wait what?Really? Proof/Source of info? I know Tata had invested in Wire and Print tho

[@utsavgupta5781]

Wow

[@GIRISHVARMA]

Is OLA the Future TATA? OLA is venturing into many verticals in the Tech field. This is just wow!!!

[@zenmaster4829]

Venture karne se h nahi hota hai . Maximum ventures to fail ho rakhe hai iske 😂😂 Inse ola bhi foreign company acquire karke banye the Bas isko fund raise karna ata hai aur kuch nahi

[@akumar24324]

​@@zenmaster4829 Itna hi assan hai toh tu bhi karle naa Fund raise...tu koi ka2 wa hai pakka jo chidh rha hai usse kyu ki tumlog ke puncture ki dukaan nahi chal rhi hai ab😂😂😂 And taking about Kuch naya banane nahi aata hai..😂😂Gadhe do you even know at Krutrim he build whole new Mapping app and that too total indigenous par tujhe samjh nahin ayega😂😂😂

[@urbashidigitalbangriposi8749]

​@@zenmaster4829excellent at spreading negativity. By the way which cos has he failed ? Even TATA acquired RR & Jaguar. Moreover OLA is a superb EV and I have been driving Pro since Jan 22.

[@Raje1231]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@AmitSingh-lp6dm]

@@zenmaster4829 jisne kabhi kahi venture nahi kiya woh aise hi baat karta

[@manishban]

I really admire him for the work he is doing in EV sector for India. But I have issue with two statements: 1) He said back in 2019 no was working on EVs in India. Truth is players like Ather were already doing good work much before him. Athers already started deliveries at that time. 2) When he was working for Microsoft in 2008-2010, did he worked 20 hours a day, 7 days a week. I think answer is NO. This is difference between working for own company and doing job. So he sholudn't expect tapasya from employees unless he is paying extra.

[@AmitSingh-lp6dm]

ather is just assembling no one is making batter and cells nither doing any research as far as workign 20hrs is concerned its a way to learn things and implement it in later life to get successful.

[@manishban]

@@AmitSingh-lp6dm Ather make their own battery packs. Yes they import cells. Ather is product launched by years of R&D. Ather is much more than assembly company unlike Okinawa or others.

[@kkghy8311]

​@@AmitSingh-lp6dmabey saale bot account, jhat bhar gyaan nahi. kitna baar same comment dalega har jaga. Ola bought the entire product and R&D from a Norway company.

[@shishirchitre1945]

​@@kkghy8311barabar hai. Koi nahi batata yeh. Apne boldiya. 👍👍👍

[@amuamaresh11]

These people are main architect of indian EV and FUTURE industry

[@BijoyHossen-ic7ue]

😂😂😂😂 architect lol

[@iSuryaYadav]

This guys is just fearless!!

[@BijoyHossen-ic7ue]

😂😂😂😂what fealless lol he is a normal panjabi boy from luidhiana

[@ayushkumarsingh5384]

Katuwa😂😂😂​@@BijoyHossen-ic7ue

[@pizzaparkerhotdogmaguire3225]

Vivek Agrawal exploits min wage workers

[@emreddy53]

Smita Jee - This is one of the best technology podcasts. Please do a podcast with ONDC Chief (Open Network for Digital Commerce) which was promised as the next Google Pay or Phone Pay type technology in the delivery system, which can replace e-commerce Giants like Amazon

[@IndicRenai-2047]

He is true nationalist, dharmik, india and indian culture orientated person.

[@zenmaster4829]

He is a true example of Jack of all trades but master of none

[@youtubersdub4339]

​@@zenmaster4829 in whichever market they are.. they are ruling so just sitting at home and giving absurd comments is useless dude..

[@AK--2023]

He is only a businessman. This is what he should be.

[@TheKakarot_itachi]

he is a follower of Brahminism

[@shashankjoshi9515]

@@TheKakarot_itachiso what? If you don’t like it don’t use it

[@aa08469]

Building an electric vehicle isn't the only thing , a ecosystem is very much needed along with that in which ola isn't working that aggressively as they are selling their scooters, customer services and spare parts costly and very poor.

[@AmarGyanesh]

This is where there's opportunity for peer to peer charging businesses like BOLT Earth come in. For 2 wheeler EVs the usecase isn't there for charging facilities outside home or offices. For 4WD P2P will be much more efficient than public infrastructure which is a huge burden but it happening as well.

[@Didmasela]

@aa08469: you should give a positive critisism by providing solutions to what OLA has missed to do.

[@aa08469]

@@Didmasela I have a ola scooter and I know the problems while driving it , ola had promissed the infrastructure and many more things which they are not providing till now , why there should always be positive critisim while these giant industries keep fooling common people and their consumer

[@Jitesh_shahh]

Modi ji ne jese lakshya dip ko trending kiya waise hi bhavish bhi kurta style ko vapis la rhe he. So good to hear that

[@sachin----123]

kurta phenke navy airforce and. Army meinnkaam karo sale

[@sachin----123]

sale kurta pajama Islam ke logo ka hai dhoti lungi humari hai

[@kamalpahuja1]

What an talk.... Really loved listening to Bhavish Aggarwal "the unapologetic Hindu "

[@shreenidhi4515]

True inspiration❤❤❤

[@user-xn1xy4hs4k]

Please invite more such technology entrepreneurs who are into creating intellectual property and discussing ideas, instead of loonies from political parties who fart around

[@pradipjadhao3472]

The architect of Indian EV industry

[@Raje1231]

Ask real people working in EV industry about their opinion of him 😂😂😂

[@cleancit]

I always thought 99% indian are very nationalist,we all are make some plateform to challenged west for everything made in India or made for indian. I always promote made in India product like ola ,tata , mahindra etc I ❤your indic values ...sari duniya ka bhala ."Hum se he hoga bhai sabka bhala "

[@vinsin328]

He is challenging China not the west.

[@cleancit]

@@vinsin328 he is challenge own monopoly business man like bajaj ,hero ,tvs etc ,they not enter other newbie in two wheeler market.

[@PrasanNavi]

Wonderful. I heard him for the first time and I just love him.

[@TushitVeer]

Ola for India🇮🇳

[@avijitdutt79]

Only a true Nationalist & genius like Bhavesh can call out the Global Big Tech companies! We need more Bhavesh’s ! Wish you all the best in all your ventures!

[@ravikhemka813]

Love this chatter saving on my phone!!!

[@praveenrai6965]

My God! The guy asking questions, keeps interrupting with his own inputs! Just be quiet and let the man in focus speak without interruptions to his thought flow. Why do some interviewers think that they need to loan a word or a phrase or an idea, every few seconds, when the very idea is about listening and learning from the person whom you are interviewing? Is there a compulsion to kind of display one's own "expertise" or desire to show he is no less and can teach a few things to the man in focus? Phew!

[@YASHWANTH25691]

Wow I was thinking the same

[@pranavkarkare]

Very refreshing to watch and listen to a non political discussion. Request you to have more tech leaders and entrepreneurs on your show.

[@shivrajrana7427]

A lot of respect for Bhavish. He is not just a super brain but also has a spine:) Very impressed by his understanding of not just tech and business but also culture and politics.

[@ArpitYadav-np3bv]

He is really a too smart

[@archit5019]

Full Support to Bhavesh Sir, these are exact kind of leaders which India needs. Keep inspiring us all...

[@harkritsingh1896]

We need more entrepreneurs like bhavish agarwal to develop india

[@jaishreeram6409]

What a positive man he is! Wonderful Person!

[@rutvikrs]

He deserves a world class workforce which he won't get. 😢

[@Sureshyagik]

Awesome podcast.!

[@DeepakKatiyarr]

The knowledge this man hold is unbelievable

[@numaansniper8653]

Truly inspirational can't wait for more. 😍

[@AmritPattnaik]

Inspirational Videos 😍

[@sharan50000]

Absolutely fantastic interview Smita ji & Ishan with Bhavish😊👌🏽👌🏽👍🏽🚩🇮🇳

[@chetankhandelwal9398]

What an insight about Bhavish.... Lovely guy

[@mohitchaudhary9865]

Such a amazing and mind boggling podcasts....need such more podcasts in the future'.

[@siddhanti]

I never had a great opinion about Bhavish/OLA, but this podcast has removed a lot of my preconceived notions and helped me find a new respect for Bavish.

[@suhanshtaneja2721]

Wow powerful message!!

[@aquaritinturf3686]

Thanks!

[@harshsaini9898]

Great conversation

[@rauttpraful]

Loved the conversation. OLA is doing many exciting things.

[@Raman_patel0]

Bhavish just said Bandi omg he’s true typical indian man😂😂😂 love you bhavish

[@ShubhamGupta-RSA]

Omg.. Ek Indian ne bndi bol diya... Abe ghonchu

[@vidyutahuja9037]

This is truely great🤘🏻

[@swethapratap_only]

What a refreshing change to see a corporate leader talking of growth or development for the benefit of society and not just a money generator. We need to inculcate such values in our education system as well. More power to you Bhavesh

[@lalitmehta6969]

I loved his interview with RAJIV MALHOTRA (INFINITY FOUNDATION) I request everyone want to watch the interview....

[@sajeelashawar4013]

Good to listen this

[@ayushmanarora-gv1wr]

This is fantastic🥳🥳

[@AnirudhaYadav-co7le]

Man of wisdom!!

[@amolpatil8329]

Bhavish is very generous I believe he initially disrupt monopoly of private taxi owners....and now two wheeler companies.....true entrepreneur who is benefiting common people....great vision

[@parasjanpara]

Bhavish is Entrepreneur India needs. His roots and thoughts are purely Indian. He is Elon Musk of India, same tempo same workaholic attitude. The way you announced moving away from Azure was most amazing!💪

[@ayshajyoti9409]

Awesome 👍🏻🙏🏻

[@Angela56666]

One of the best Tech Leader on new India❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@ashhere31]

Excellent interview. Loved hearing him. Inspirational

[@jovita4443]

He is our HERO! ❤

[@absingh9999]

Loved It ❣

[@laxmilobo9448]

This podcast has washed away the horrible negativity of the past few weeks, especially when the media only presented the worst in India. Thank you Smita Prakash

[@sandeepkulkarni2021]

What an immense person... showing grt respect to culture and our ancient language....I'm planning to sell my ice scooter.... mostly will go with OLA...all the best for ur new ventures

[@nikitwaghmare59]

Amazing man!🥹🥹

[@snkumarkumar1859]

So far Bhavish has been to me as one of successful IITIAN start up owner but my opinion about him has changed with this podcast. My respect for him has increased a lot and I pray almighty to grant him success in his future endeavors.

[@rprstpauls]

Thank you ANI for having Bhavish in the show. People like me would not have known about his contribution and more imortant his interesting persona

[@axayg]

Wow! Super like for this podcast and all the more respect for Bhavesh. He is new Nandan Nilekani 💪

[@RD-ol5ry]

I support his every stance barring work-life balance. You cannot expect to work as a Cooley. A fresh mind will be more productive and efficient.

[@gasibal1]

I remember my xerox days, shaved, laced polished shoes, nails cut, hair kept. This is a new way, long hair, Kurta and a casual look. I am loving it.

[@iKapilPant]

You are amazing bhavish 🙌🏻

[@deepikagoyal07]

Such a exciting conversation.

[@lekhamanohar9728]

Very informative talk. Feel proud as an Indian!

[@SURAJ-yh2mg]

Great podcast 🙌

[@jithenin]

Thank you SMITA JI & ISHAAN for this Conversation with BHAVISH ❤️👍 this will go as one of my favourite EPISODE , nice blend of INFORMATION & Many HEADLINES 😀, as discussed INDIA must develop its own technology and cultural model to maintain control over NARRATIVE & DATA. On a lighter note :- One Headline I see “ OLA BHAVISH JI ne Bhole - To End ICE Age Current INDIAN Entrepreneurs must Work all 7 Days & should shift their FOCUS from GOLF to INDIA’S GOAL 😀👍

[@meetnishant24]

Fantastic podcast..very informative and much knowledge worthy..Thanks for inviting him over..

[@rajeshkumarpanda7057]

It was grt podcast and engaging ❤

[@Viman_Bharat]

China spend 10% of their GDP + each and every company 10% revenue to R&D sector. But in india govt. Spend 0.1 % only and company zero. (Reality - during congress time import from China and we are in very very bad position to handle). Govt. And private companies are not doing much.

[@SUPERMAN-ox2eq]

thank you for having such informative pod cast looking forward for more Indian entrepreneur in future podcast.

[@Parasuram5]

Heard every minute of the 2-hour chat. So inspiring and informative

[@kashni]

very good discussion, Bhavesh is young, energetic and is investing on india. He may benefit financially as entrepreneur but we are not giving our reigns to US company who take profit to outside, this company will re-invest profits in india and thats for sure. Bhavesh is truly inspirational to all the young guys out there.

[@pravinfatnani]

Absolutely mermerising discussion. Loved watching and listening him on future of Bharat esp wrt setting our own paradigms in technology, business, culture etc. The nation centric ethos in all his thinking, planning and endeavors is very very positively affecting. Overall a lovely podcast and thank ANI and Bhavish for that. Wish him the best for all his endeavors.

[@SurajKumar-ku4ee]

Loved it! I mostly watch political podcasts and this was something different and inspiring. We need more of such entrepreneurs come in and share their vision and position on the current state of affairs for our countries youth. I am from a generation where Shahrukh khan was named as the youth icon! Imagine what a waste my growth stage was

[@pavan.avasthi]

This guy has literally a fire in his eyes 🔥 to make india ,a great bharat again!

[@AnkitG12]

We need more of such conversation .Much needed for the future BHARAT.

[@nrao8977]

Oh!!!!!! Bharat has non-politicians too? How refreshing to listen to a video that does not mention ED, NIA, CBI, SC, .............. Dhanyavad🙏

[@pyarelalkajii]

This is the best podcast, I have ever watched in recent days.

[@infinitelifedivineheartmed1924]

Ani needs to do a documentary on the life of the ola and uber driver. Who are often from small towns and live 24/7 in the car, have poor eating and nutrition.

[@projectsubratasen7355]

Great conversation.. Loved it

[@kirtikrishnaswamy1719]

We need more Bhavishes! Amazing clarity of thought.

[@nitinparmar920]

Really great inspiration

[@jaikishjayasimhan5907]

Great podcast. Super interesting going by Bhavesh Agarwal. Bharat Cell was not known to many. I am sure all innovation will do very well for Bharat. All the best to OLA.

[@dr_kabirrajput7728]

Yeh Banda kya hi hai yaar . Love Him . Admire him . India needs young man like him😮😮😮❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@satyamkumar3439]

Tum kya ho budhe tum bhi kro aur kar sakte ho

[@garitube09]

Even for those of us not from the domain of technology this podcast was quite inspirational. We can contribute to our country and society in our own ways.

[@rishi.girdhar]

Excellent discussion, what a clarity of thought. Bhavish is like a 'Musk' of Bharat + partnering with Vikram Sampath, Ameesh for Indic history and civilization, that angle is interesting. Wish you all the very best!!

[@prashantadas6788]

Developed so much more understanding about the digital world from the podcast. We have so many challenges, but at the same time so much scope to make our country digitally strong.

[@vkchopra1]

Excellent really enjoyed listening to this

[@SC0704]

Despite being a visionary industrialist Bhavish Agarwal seems like a normal guy free of gimmicks.

[@sakshampathak8289]

I know hard work is important, a person should work 70 or even 100 hours a week. But the point is PAY PEOPLE OVERTIME IF YOU EXPECT THEM TO WORK THAT HARD

[@ashwanikumartiwari9446]

Bhavesh Ji You Reflecting Your Name Literally which means "God Of Feelings" towards Understanding Bharat very well. I will request to you please Visit Small town college or Institution for getting Better Understanding of India.

[@arnabmedhi5340]

1:53:50 I am a first-generation entrepreneur, I don't spend my weakens playing golf, I spend my weekends in the factory.

[@bhagwanvsb7453]

One of the best podcasts ever....

[@aviraljanveja5155]

We need many more start ups and even established players to go into deep tech / emerging tech space. Not just IT service providers.

[@Benickish]

Such a thoughtful podcast..

[@neharikarai2130]

Very insightful

[@mraghav123]

Wow Smita and Bhavish One of the best podcast I have ever listened You guys rock

[@shirishghoge9495]

Truly a visionary. Thanks for sharing his thoughts through your channel by asking the right questions!

[@VermaRajinder]

Truly Inspirational -- But is not Ather extremely Good too and doing extremely Well !!!

[@arvindanaa]

Totally awesome interview