Ep. 24 - Awakening from the Meaning Crisis - Hegel

[@dsuleyma]

Glad to be alive when the course of history has manifested this lecture series.

[@polymathpark]

glad to be alive now, reading this comment expressing my own sentiment.

[@mariog1490]

I think Heidegger would say it manifests, Hegel would call this moment a revelation.

[@matthewparlato5626]

Well said

[@davemathews5446]

Amen!!!

[@zmo1ndone502]

True Hegelian there

[@rdrzalexa]

This is perhaps the toughest lecture to follow. Not because of John but because of Hegel.

[@lisaonthemargins]

Dammit Hegel

[@myTHself]

I blame/credit the world... the cheeky thingish!

[@myTHself]

Hmmm credit - fantasy bank talk- blame/bless feels better.

[@grantg8638]

This is actually the best synopsis of Hegel I’ve ever encountered and I studied German Enlightenment in college

[@SohailSiadat]

and this is a conpliment about John

[@IngridHurwitz]

"Patterns of intelligibility structuring reality as a living system ". BEST explanation of Geist i ever heard 🥳🥳🥳❤

[@HolyWarrior1]

I just took a couple thousand years of understanding and adopted each frame in 24 episodes. It’s very strange watching this. Every episode describing western thought I feel myself inhabiting some great inheritance. Seamlessly transferring from one reality to the other as easy as I breathe. I feel like this entire tradition is in my DNA. So strange.

[@alejandromadrid8075]

Yeah its weird because he starts with ancient Greece, and Greece is the East, not the West. Neither is Judea in the West. Western Europe vs Eastern Europe, Latin Rome vs Greek Byzantium, Catholic Rite vs Orthodox Rite, you get the drift. In other words the West is a misnomer.

[@accadia1983]

Hello, professor, and listeners, it is an honour and privilege to be here with you today. What a journey it has been so far! ♾️❤️

[@danieljones1939]

Dr. Vervaeke you are a brilliant lecturer.

[@arudns]

My favorite part of Fridays.

[@viktorpless9969]

I like the way how John have been using the idea of this Hegelian "grammar" throughout the course. It would have been too abstract for me if introduced only at this point. I'm glad I haven't given up despite the fact things are getting a bit abstract lately...

[@Ykpaina988]

Psyched, jazzed, inspired to be alive and enjoy this psycho technology as I watch over my developing infant child 🧒 who is ever more sublime, profound, aww inspiring and enlightening as a teacher or patience than any idea concept or thought about being or time or space.

[@user-vw6xp5nl6t]

I love how Hegel integrated his ego into his system too.

[@dalibofurnell]

It feels as if my brain is blossoming 🌸

[@nicholibaldron8171]

Books in the Video: 6:06 - Eric Perl - Thinking Being: Introduction to Metaphysics in the Classical Tradition 46:18 Merold Westphal - Transcendence and Self-Transcendence: On God and the Soul

[@masterllama321]

this is true education. thank you!

[@StephenDix]

I have returned to these lectures since the release of GPT and found it quite fruitful to synthesize the two resources in order to understand these concepts better as Dr. Vervaeke presents denser material. P: Give me an example statement that embodies and captures the essence of Hegel's thesis antithesis and synthesis. GPT: One example of a statement that embodies Hegel's thesis, antithesis, and synthesis is: "The struggle between the individual and society is resolved through the recognition of both individual rights and social responsibilities, leading to a synthesis of individual freedom within a just and equitable society." In this statement, the thesis is the idea of individual rights and freedoms, while the antithesis is the idea of social responsibilities and obligations. The clash between these opposing ideas is resolved through the recognition that both are necessary for a just and equitable society. The synthesis, therefore, is the idea that individual freedom can coexist with social responsibility and collective action. This statement illustrates how Hegel's framework of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis can be used to explore and reconcile opposing ideas in a way that leads to greater understanding and progress.

[@marcc16]

There has been some talk of allowing a GPT/LLM to function as governing members of our society since they will essentially be omniscient. Would be interesting to see what they come up with for social policy, quoting the various philosophers over time and weighing the pros and cons of each and seeing if any common ground could be established for the common good. I think a panel of five would be ideal, far left, far right, two moderates, and one wildcard who throws out crazy ideas to add some noise/reduce overfitting/gives the hippies someone to root for.

[@mrloveandgratitude]

I like to emphasise that this developmental process is not merely a reconciliation or a merging of two opposing ideas (thesis and antithesis) into a new compromise (synthesis). Rather, it's a dynamic progression where the inherent contradictions of a concept lead to its transformation, resulting in a new stage that preserves, negates, and raises the previous stages to a higher level of understanding or organization.

[@ikkikita9665]

Maybe we should ask the LLM "deity" if it makes sense to use a binary one-dimensional left-right framework for a (three?)-dimensional world... If you move up into two dimensions, at least you get a triangle, so three 'poles', and then in three dimensions, you get a tetrahedron, so you get four...

[@antontreeofwisdom]

Thank you so much dear John for sharing this, it's incredible. I haven't been fascinated by a talk that much for years.

[@FearNoGrave]

I was waiting for Kierkegaard to be brought up 👍I hope he'll be expanded on.

[@Lundalf]

There lectures are so addictive.. I've been waiting for this the entire week, and it's over in like five minutes, and now on for another week, which is more like an eternity... :(

[@kbeetles]

Luna Birak - one way to do this stretch from week to week is to make notes and read them in between .... :o)

[@brisingr12]

@Praxis Of Logos first you have to slay the dragon

[@carloduran2961]

I tried taking classes like this in undergrad, but the professors I kept getting wanted to read obscure writings of Marx. As an 19 year old I knew they were full of it. Perhaps a lecture like this would have changed everything!

[@Impaled_Onion-thatsmine]

Who cares about hegelian dimensional dialectic, scrambled egg nonsense from totalitizing his temporality and medieval remix of history. I was in a barrel in medieval Germany in post medieval history surrounded by bots on Salvia.

[@bradrandel1408]

Middle schools need this class to help integrate individuals through dialogue to understanding to acceptance to action🤔

[@zmo1ndone502]

This is quite the Thesis... Can't wait to see the Antithesis

[@tamtitamti]

Please don't ever stop doing these, before your point came sufficiently across! These lectures are wonderful!!

[@youssefsammouh501]

This is great... I cant stop watching this lecture series when I need to be studying freaking anatomy

[@frncscbtncrt]

All my respect, John. Hard but rewarding lesson.

[@daNihilism]

Getting married tomorrow and this will sadly have to wait. I am very glad Hegel is the focus of an entire episode. Peace be with you John.

[@frncscbtncrt]

You will need to watch this series again in three or four years hahahaha

[@d.r.m.m.]

Thank you for this excellent lecture, John!

[@BertWald-wp9pz]

This is the clearest overview of Hegel I have heard. Many thanks.

[@moorecable]

Thanks so much professor. As a person I have struggled with the forces of absolute. If something is real it must be throughout all time and space and be real forever even if forgotten and then rediscovered. Thanks professor

[@trinitycare2023]

Thank you for your time and dedication.

[@ciarandudley3800]

Another great lecture. Your summary does justice to the overall gist of Hegel. However, I would argue, as many do, that Hegel's critics (e.g. Schopenhauer, Kierkegaard, Marx, etc.) all misunderstood his project - each in his own peculiar way. Far from being an abstracted schematic system of disembodied ideas, Hegel's philosophy demonstrates rather that it is precisely the lived, volitional activity of ourselves as particular individuals that contributes to the realization of universal Reason in and through the stages of history. "Experience is the real author of growth and advance of philosophy." Encyclopedia of the Philosophical Sciences. Introduction. (1830)

[@nickshelbourne4426]

Hegel's philosophy is a closed system, like a religious text. Your accusation is included in the theory - as you are simply the antithesis of his thesis!

[@kidflersh7807]

@@nickshelbourne4426 thesis antithesis synthesis ain't hegel, that's fichte.

[@bradspitt3896]

Then he's contradicting himself. It's only experiential insofar as some elite or group of elites conceptualizes the collective experiences of the geist, in hindsight, and comes up with a "mythology of reason" to "make the philosopher sensible." His way is ultimately philosophical. To leave it at the level of experience is to not have knowledge.

[@DesignEcologies]

Thank you

[@spiralsun1]

This is my favorite of the videos so far. The absolute easiest thing to understand, for me-all the things I think about, have thought about in years past. Didnt read a lot of philosophy because that’s how my mind works. I see things differently. But apparently hard for people to see in things. I used to hate all the “isms” of philosophy but somehow John made me start to appreciate them as scaffolding for understanding something higher for people instead of thinking that it is just people talking about the obvious, rationalizing, idolizing, narrowing focus, while ignoring what they point at. That’s a pretty valuable thing he does. Connections to people. In other words, I have noticed what a great teacher he is. Sometimes you need to learn how people see things in order to properly communicate. To speak their language. That’s always been the most difficult thing for me because I don’t think like they do. Which gives me a lot of things to communicate. The paradox of human society for me. Led to tyranny, ego, misunderstanding, war… in the past, so yeah, important. I understand you, John. ❤️👍🏻 Again, thank you 🙏🏻 ❤️ I hope people understand how valuable this is. One thing, John… these are not things we have been trying to do. They are patterns of reality and existence. I tried to show this in my first book and papers more than 20 years ago, but no one understood. The meaning crisis is everything. Life or death stuff. I just read that over again… yikes i need to be more clear. What I basically wanted to say is that you made me like philosophy when I avoided it before. Thanks 🙏🏻

[@longcastle4863]

31:00... Okay, but Hegel lecturing on the importance of making philosophy sensible put a smile on my face.

[@nugzarkapanadze6867]

Thank You!

[@hamedmoradi5291]

It's time to watch another episode. Thank you Dr. Vervaeke.

[@francescos7361]

Thanks

[@leedufour]

Thanks John.

[@stephen-torrence]

34:15 "Wait that should be capitalized..." 😂💛

[@carlprater2779]

I just have to say how much I appreciate John's articulate, boiled-down descriptions and visualized mapping (so helpful) of the major thinking-and-being frameworks in the Western tradition. What feels so revelatory is the lens he uses to examine these historical ways of thinking and being: one which understands humans primarily as meaning-makers. (Recommend Kegan's Evolution of Self, which I believe he referenced in earlier episode.) Understanding the lineage and progression of these influential thinkers through this vantage point has been a tremendous aid in exposing some of the hidden roots and implicit assumptions of my own ways of seeing the self/other/environment.

[@intrograted792]

Though Hegel wasn't aware of it, Consciousness, through Hegel, in a sense became aware of its fundamental structure. Hegel is describing a complex adaptive system, of which all natural systems, and therefore all things, are. It's not analogous to science, it is science. The Christian Trinity is a metaphor for the ultimate complex adaptive system (the universe). Father = undifferentiated Consciousness (structure), Son = differentiated Consciousness (entities), HS = their integration/interaction from which all else emerges. Anthropic complex adaptive systems have an additional feature; the conscious awareness of potential, wherein lies the allowance for self-transcendence. (I'm a panpsychist, in case it isn't obvious.)

[@jasetheacity]

The problem is the underlying "operating system" our civilization is built upon: a circular Bronze age worldview or a continuous cosmos (history), vs a 2 worlds view or a linear Axial age view of history, that arrives at the "promised land".

[@night_of_the_world138]

What do you mean Hegel wasn’t aware of it? This is literally Hegel’s entire point

[@RickDelmonico]

Virtual particles, virtual dimensions, virtual time. Spacetime is built up from a quantum of action in a field. Time is dimensional like sound. Sound has volume, pitch and timbre. Gravity is a variation of scale in the inverse relationship between space and time, a pressure gradient. The presence of an event horizon would suggest that the information is at maximum compression. There is an organizing principle at work in the cosmos. Chess computers don't enjoy winning. According to Mae Won ho, all living systems are playing quantum jazz. It is the embodiment of the system that allows emotion. It is not the information processing of computers but the combination of process and material expression that generates emotive structure. Perception divides the holomovement. The intentional field of implicate order. Nothing novel or interesting happens unless it is on the border between order and chaos. The infinitely dimensional perfect sphere of Truth's surface begins dancing. The fiddler is self referential noise. Real is an emergent property. What if the purpose of the universe is to harvest the meaningful information that lies in the region between simple truth and chaotic meaningless gibberish. The engine that connects the impossible to the possible.

[@emmanueloluga9770]

Oh trust Hegel was most definitely awware of it.

[@aisthpaoitht]

Very close. But panentheism is it. It all had to start with an initial thought from God. God therefore exists throughout all reality, but also beyond it. God is love Father = lover / will / potential Son = reciprocal lovee/lover / differentiated / Logos Spirit = outflow of "reality" from the two

[@aydnofastro-action1788]

Best Hegel talk ever.

[@guycomments]

How do you feel about Zizek if you're familiar with his talks?

[@aydnofastro-action1788]

@@guycomments I think he is entertaining, but flys off on too many tangents. And i find myself waiting for his "gold nuggets" of insights to come. I still don't get what he has to say about Hegel.

[@aydnofastro-action1788]

I have to read his books. I started one, and he has a good style, much more clear than his talks.

[@intrograted792]

Okay. Now I'm a confirmed Hegelian. I've only come across his work in bits 'n pieces til now. This was a clear, concise exposition of his chief ideas, and I'm very much on board with them (as I choose to interpret them!).

[@nickshelbourne4426]

Would suggest reading Hegel before declaring dyed in the wool allegiance!

[@ndkiwikid]

Intrograted The best place to start with Hegel is Robert Brandom’s *A Spirit of Trust*.

[@nickshelbourne4426]

@@ndkiwikid The best place to start with Hegel is Hegel.

[@ndkiwikid]

Nick Shelbourne 99%+ of people who just causally pick up a book by Hegel will not be able to understand him because he is the most inscrutable writer of all time, so they then just give up. That might sound good in principle, but in practice it doesn’t work. “When Hegel lay on his death-bed he said: ‘only one man has understood me;’ but immediately afterwards he added with chagrin: ‘nor did he understand me neither.’ “

[@1872959]

@@ndkiwikid Probably a bad idea for a beginner, especially when someone has different aims with their interpretation.

[@mosesgarcia9443]

Brains are exercised for the week. Thank you

[@michel-jeantailleur]

For those who love music, you can find an attempt at a Hegelian "new mythology in the service of the Idea" in Wagner's Ring cycle. Only 15 hours long...

[@kindenebeker8250]

Wow. I get what Hegel was putting down. I hear the critiques by Schopenhauer, Kirkegaard and Marx, but they seem blinded by their own biases. Hegel's 'self-realizing' system works really well for me when applied to the psyche/consciousness of the individual. If each of us individually can 'realize' the whole system of our Self, would that not create a culture, a collective, an ultimate Geist that is 'self-realized' and would be pretty close to Utopia? That seems pretty damn participatory to me. Of course I'm just barely hanging on by my fingernails here . . . let's see what unfolds in further lectures . . .

[@bjcovertaction]

Actually you've touched on one of the great questions that drives the field of sociology which is whether or not collectives of many individual human wills can be understood ultimately as just the sum of those individual wills and their actions, or whether collectives take on a whole 'will of their own' that is only appropriately studied separate from it's individual parts. Put more poetically: Are our communities Egregore using us as their substrata, or are we mere mobs of chaos projecting our of own wills onto our own abstractions of phenomena?

[@_Erendis]

I'm pausing this because the subtitles rendered Kierkegaard as "trigger-guard" at 44:16 and that became super-salient to me so I forgot what he was talking about.

[@bradrandel1408]

The next step from Maps and meaning figuring myself out fully integrated from history

[@wildfinchers]

Is anyone else feeling depressed by this part of the series? It is so hard to actually accept this as our human history. John, I think, asks us to not just accept that we are mere observers of Descartes, Kant, and Hobbes. But to remember that we are them -- and I am not trying to be trite. Our (as watchers of this series) consolation remains that John has disseminated the history in such a way that the series gives us the corresponding psycho-technologies to help us out of this mess -- something that even Kant and Descartes did not know. They tried to find neo-Platonism, but for them, it was something akin to trying to find your glasses in a dark room. Watching these towering intellects grapple with the fractured historic philosophy left to them -- and to attempt to make sense of it -- is both an encouraging and tragic experience. And that is how it precisely feels to be a human today. Beautiful and tragic. Our worldview and culture are still thriving in precisely the same dysfunctional existential context as Kant's. We can't tirelessly quibble over the propositional knowledge in the arguments -- it is irrelevant. It is irrelevant because the propositional knowledge within Kant's texts is outdated, not wrong, but outdated. The institutional arenas are different than ours today -- 'facts' pertaining to the 'objective reality' in the late 1700s to early 1800s are not relevant *in this argument*. They may be relevant in another argument elsewhere, but they are not relevant here. What is relevant is the metaphysical claims of Kant and other historic philosophers from the enlightenment and beyond, because they tried to grapple with the same *existential* problems of their day as ours. They extracted what little truth was left of the decomposing myths (perennial patterns) from ancient philosophy and tried to make something meaningful. They tried to touch reality, and that is to me, the beauty of the whole endeavour (very romantic of me to say).

[@aisthpaoitht]

So where does that leave us?

[@YusoufAtalla]

Damn bro this pretty crazy no cap🤯

[@marktidmore2675]

The universe, as matter and space, is finite. It approaches the infinite, by producing minds capable of imagining patterns that are not real.

[@jasetheacity]

Hegel, the Godfather of totalitarian ideologies! Massive thing to say about someone but interesting none-the-less, especially in light of the "2-worlds" Axial legacy mythology, and notions of "the promised land" and hence who is, or which groups of people are, standing in the way!!

[@tensevo]

I would have put it differently, Hegel tried to write the last word on philosophy, in doing so, he wrote the dictators handbook. A totalising system of meaning, that is primarily political and leaves no place for asylum.

[@rejuve50plus59]

This is getting all too complicated. After episode 2, I thought Eureka! I am going to snap into flow and will live happily ever after. 22 episodes later I am again becoming a frustrated malcontent.

[@philmessina476]

Don't despair, friend. Rejoice in the fact that we can review these lectures as often as we like, read further to support our understanding, then return to these lectures---participatory learning.

[@Hooz97]

I totally relate to this

[@paulschwarz406]

Rejuve50plus Fear not, God has sent His only begotten son Jesus to die on the cross for the sin of mankind, Rising from the dead before hundreds of witnesses, historically proven. Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the true and living God.

[@joshsmith8066]

It really does seem like the human experience is nothing more than a never ending cycle between states of ignorance and enlightenment.

[@karenvanhook6748]

@@joshsmith8066 True. Sometimes the cycle time seems to be about 5 minutes.

[@bogdanandone9022]

Love it. Very good explanation. I will use your channel for Heidegger as well, you are very good sir !

[@Javier-il1xi]

An absolutely pivotal essay to read is Wolfgang Giegerich's 'The End of Meaning and The Birth of Man'.

[@kiljoy5223]

Friday, fish & chips... and Vervaeke

[@TheNam3d]

Saturday, run ... and Vervaeke.

[@kiljoy5223]

I forgot beer 🤨

[@dannyjquinn880]

You must be an Englishman Kiljoy

[@kiljoy5223]

Meh... more ish than Engl

[@Thereisnosky]

that smooth transition from in to and on 35:57

[@bonafidecius]

7:43 Love this. Sounds a lot like what the Hermeticists consider the fundamental nature of reality to be: The All is Mind, The Universe is Mental. Read The Kybalion, if you haven't yet. Fascinating work. Very poetic. Only ~90 pages.

[@bradrandel1408]

So good! Cannot wait for you to visit with VanderKlay looking forward to it I would like to be able to buy your whole series or download it anyway before KZbinTakes it away

[@enjerth78]

26:50 "If this is a process by which reality realizes itself, and the real is the rational, this is also a process by which reality realizes itself." I didn't catch the redundancy in this statement before I had to pause to consider the profoundity that's otherwise being introduced. He goes on to express rationality as part of the subject and I think he meant the 2nd "reality realizes itself" to mean rationality realizes itself. Which kind of leads to the point I was considering, that he was mapping out something I thought looked like flow state, just without having addressed stimulation.

[@AngeloSomers]

suprised to see so many commentors are struggling with the hegelian proposal here... I think that the intensity of your belief in the 'seperate self' is correlated to your capacity to see hegel's philosophy in the walls

[@tensevo]

30:24 This lecture stands out, in the series, as being particularly profound, in that here, in Hegel, we have a philosopher, entirely well meaning, laying the foundation for 20th century atrocities. Fascinating stuff. "This is the final utopia" "Greatest work of man kind"

[@tensevo]

Every failed state or empire was built on utopian vision, of "the ends justify the means". The total state, or religion of the state is no different. Just before the killing starts, dissenters are purged, and you see all kinds of mad state worshiping rituals. You do get some notice period.

[@hakayma7560]

nice video as I'm starting to remember my classes in the college

[@MrMarktrumble]

Is not this course the dialectic of ways of being and understanding the world, leading to I suspect a transformational situation of unity, clarity and connectedness where love and reason are integrated? I unfortunately think trying to read Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit is a Socratic challenge, or maybe I am not receptive and intelligent enough. But if I am to be both candid and honest, I do not want to simply understand and loosely memorize books. I want to be both as both most actually and authentically wise as I can be. Very good lecture.

[@johnstewart7025]

The explanation of Hegel's Geist reminds me of this passage from Kierkegaard: The self is a relation which relates to itself, or that in the relation which is its relating to itself. The self is not the relation but the relation's relating to itself. A human being is a synthesis of the infinite and the finite, of the temporal and the eternal, of freedom and necessity.

[@emmanueloluga9770]

Its funny, because The scholar Jon Stewart is one of the leading authorities on the connection between Hegl and Kiekegaard today. Either your name is a happy coincidence or its an intentional flattery of said scholar.

[@Ykpaina988]

After devoting the last decade to Trying to understand Heidegger making me a nihilist I sincerely want to understand Hegel and understand what the real and the rational are instead of falling down the Jungian Heideggerian wormhole of self reflective solipsism . That that I have a wife and child on the way and faith restored in humanity and having applied Petersonian lobterism to my ontological way of being in the world 🌎 I want to become who I am so I do t become who I’m not. I am an American 🇺🇸 of Ukrainian 🇺🇦 descent and I am ultimately looking for a traditional worldview habitable order within my home 🏡 and town and country while also enjoying the enticing power of the city of the modern world without loosing myself to the urban decay of the soul. Okay I’ve had a couple of 🍺…. Going to workout 🏋️‍♀️ I. The morning and get my license to practice money making . Yes 🙌 I’m here at the church and I’m going back to the beach 🏖 for Friday night to play match play points and win Wimbledon .

[@mariog1490]

I think like John says, Hegel secularizes Christianity. I think Heidegger does the opposite of what he wants and makes a Christian metaphysics. Obviously you should always take someone for their word, but Heidegger is someone you should take with a grain of salt. He basically plagiarizes Kierkegaard and never cites him.

[@davidfost5777]

I'm always looking for new interesting lectures on Psychology/Philosophy, please let me know if you guys have any recommendations, would be highly appreciated

[@mrnoone3922]

Alan Watts, J Krishnamurti, David Bohm.🙏😊

[@malpais776]

This way of thinking about Hegel , I think, gives the reader a better idea of what Hegel meant about "getting beyond" picture thinking and moving into notional ideas. The world of literature, and picture thinking has its place in the development of thought, but it is only a "station on the way". I do remember that there was a part of Hegel scholarship that gave a more mundane understanding of Hegel's project of transforming religious grammar and idea formation into a more secular one. Hegel was a self - avowed atheist, and hid that fact in a clever abstract way to avoid being branded an atheist and making it hard to get a job. His rival Fichte had been fired from a good job with those charges. Anyway, if I'm not mistaken the "patterns of intelligibility " correspond in Hegel's lingo as the "forms of consciousness".

[@emmanueloluga9770]

Wrong wrong wrong. Refrain from making unsubstantiated comment with no verifiable source.

[@malpais776]

​@@emmanueloluga9770 What was, in your refrain " wrong, wrong, wrong ? My source was conversations with Robert C. Solomon, a Hegel scholar.

[@bradspitt3896]

Definitely was not an atheist, you can read Hegel and the Hermetic tradition for an excess of evidence for that.

[@lianaschill6132]

Snapshots of reality. Reality is constantly changing. Science explains reality of rhythms, vibrations, energy, and forces

[@TM-et7wi]

These are the healthiest addiction Ive had

[@WaylonFlinn]

Philosophy also bears the same relation to Myth in that it discards the wellspring that replenishes it: individual experience.

[@paulschwarz406]

Waylon Flinn You hit it right on the nail, the testimony of Jesus Christ the Son of God, Continuing today!

[@mdmh9999]

Arigato Vervake senpai

[@hollycamara8007]

If anyone needs a transcript we've made them for this & all episodes here: www.meaningcrisis.co/ep-24-awakening-from-the-meaning-crisis-hegel/

[@dissociate_d]

Wow, thanks a lot! Truly helpful

[@ransetruman2984]

nice OC keep it up

[@annenicholsonmbtp]

Hegel represents the turning point the metanoia in the history of ideas

[@TheARJAY69]

Looking forward to the episode when one of the students in the lecture hall finally breaks attention and coughs.

[@andrewternet8370]

If anything you have shown me how disinterested I am in philosophy after neoplatonism. Thanks.

[@stream9549]

If I am allowed to criticize, I only intend to contribute, not to offend anyone. Even more in recognition and respect for the competence and hard work demonstrated by Prof. Vervaeke. Exceptional, not only in this series of lectures. In this way, the document "Das Alteste" would perhaps not be the most suitable for inferring the most precise meaning of the purpose of Hegel's work, since the authorship of this document itself is still somewhat disputed (cf. Oldest Systematic Program of German Idealism: Translation and Notes. By Daniel F. Ferrer), with elements possibly influenced by a considerable amount of contingencies. There are, however, other documents, whose authorship is certain and with their publications authorized by Hegel himself. A good example, perhaps, would be the preface written by Hegel to Hinrichs's Philosophy of Religion (Vorrede zu Hinrichs' Religionsphilosophie), of 1822, which I thought would be cited in this video, given the development of the arguments in this series so far and the content of the mentioned preface (which, to me, it seems to be aiming to a similar objective, to a kind of denunciation of the critical necessity of some awakening from the meaning crisis). For those who its content may interest, a translation of this document into English, made by A. V. Miller, can be found in the appendix of the work "Beyond Epistemology: New Studies in the Hegel Philosophy" (ed. Frederick G. Weiss). Another one can be found in "Hegel, Hinrichs and Scheiermacher on Feeling and Reason in Religion" by Eric von der Luft. Another point is that it seems, given Hegel's complexity, that even Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Feuerbach, Marx and Kierkegaard, could have made some critical equivocations, confusions (in a similar sense to the example of "Nothing and PB&J sandwiches", in ep. 26 of this series), possibly, about some purpose, terms and Notions used and specifically determined by Hegel in the development of his work. Regarding just these authors, I leave at the end a quote from Foucault (somewhat out of place, but in good will), from his work "Archeology of Knowledge": "But truly to escape Hegel involves an exact appreciation of the price we have to pay to detach ourselves from him. It assumes that we are aware of the extent to which Hegel, insidiously perhaps, is close to us; it implies a knowledge, in that which allows us to think against Hegel, of that which remains Hegelian. We have to determine the extent to which our anti-Hegelianism is possibly one of his tricks directed against us, at the end of which he stands, motionless, waiting for us ."

[@johnvervaeke]

I have been doing a deep dive into Hegel through Brandon Pinkard Farneth and Zambrana. I will present what I hope is a much more developed account of Hegel’s work in the future.

[@andrewternet8370]

With all this talk about Hegel and will, you'd think you'd talk about Stirner! He's kinda a niche philosopher, but a cool one to look at.

[@ItsWithakayLee]

This series reminds me of an expanded first chapter of the secret teachings of all ages by Manly Palmer Hall

[@BhaveshKakwani]

To take Hegel's system of emergence back to its logical beginning - first came the electron, then the proton (differentiation), then they bonded to form the atom (integration). Or even before that - first there was empty space, then there were particles (differentiation), and they coexisted in the universe (integration). Is it fair to think of it this way as to how all the complex Ideas "emerged" from this same machinery, out of a beginning of nothingness? Is the physical universe as it appears to us just an illusion that represents the "Reality" of underlying Ideas...whoa, trippy

[@accadia1983]

05:00 idealism: world created with mind Hegel explains irrational as potential to learn. Patterns of interchangeability of reality. 09:00 geist. Between mind and spirit 11:00 study history for patterns ... 42:45 systems of ideas. Godfather of totalitarian ideologies 49:00 enter Marx. history is not driven by a man, but by socioeconomic reasons. Enter classes. Religion is just a projection

[@dwifred472]

This idea of mankind moving towards this last great accomplishment in the form of a perfect utopia is very interesting and bit scary. It seems like the idea of this movement is shared by Protestant Christians who believe that the world will have peace during the end times. However, Protestants believe this will not be a good thing because this peace will be established through a one-world government that has a leader (The Anti-Christ) and there is also a one world religion led by the false prophet. During this time the world will supposedly be in a utopian state but it is actually in a deep, dark dystopian state politically and spiritually. Once peace is established in the world, then the end times tribulations will begin. I feel like this movement towards a one world unity is happening right now when you look at the work of people like Klaus Schwab. There is also talks going on amongst leaders of the three Abrahamic religions. I would love to hear other people's thoughts on this idea and the way it might be manifesting itself in our world. I do think that it is a logical possibility if you think of the world in terms of purely progress. However, progess does need to be checked because sometimes it is not wise. It is also interesting that Marx was brought up in this lecture because a lot of the people pushing for this one world utopia are neo-marxists. These ideas of saving the planet, promoting human peace, removing poverty, ending racism are all being brought in unison in order to create a harmonious world. But it is clear that many of the people of this movement are not serving the best interests of mankind. By the way, thank you for this lecture series Professor Vervaeke, they have been greatly helpful.

[@acuerdox]

28:44 what about progress? didn't hegel write that progress acts in history, takes possesion of people and moves history forward? that sounds like an agentic god to me.

[@willowstarfeather]

Did he say fatongia around 6:40. I'm trying to work out what the word was. I googled what I thought he said.

[@Beederda]

I appreciate YOUR time JV ❤️🍄 when i make it to the end of this series i hope to share my story about what happened lead me up to finding this series and how eye and mind opening it really has been for me but in short form; i seen what you referring to as “agape” in February with the freedom convoy i had a unbelievable experience and I didn’t even go to Ottawa… but i shall save it for the story i shall share at the end of this series much love ❤️

[@gyurilajos7220]

It all falls down on a received mistranslation misconceptualization: the real is not rational it is reasonable and the reasonable is real that's how the unity of being and meaning coevolve Patterns of inexhaustible intelligibility Arise from this Why the love of wisdom can develop to actualisation of wisdom Where wisdom is not all knowing but knowing the conditions of knowing meaning through being

[@johnvervaeke]

Yes I have been reading Brandom on Hegel and coming to a deeper appreciation. Thanks for your note.

[@JonathanLevinTKY]

I'm not sure if you mentioned how the dialectic is abandoning Aristotle's law of non-contradiction and Hegel's Aufheben.

[@ieatburgersalot]

If the Father would be potential, then nothing would ever have been actualized.

[@matthewheadland7307]

Damn, totally lost. Gonna have to come back to this one…

[@guycomments]

4:00 I nearly have a panic attack

[@jonyspinoza3310]

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[@peterrosqvist2480]

I've noticed that John's grammar is different and unique.

[@JacobMRx]

Hegel's work is like a spell book, incomprehensible gibberish that is all the more fun to gawk at! Foucault, Leotard, Hegel these are important thinkers but their thinking is far too low resolution for what these men may have brought forth with optimism rather than the hatchlings of postmodern cynicism. I must watch and learn where we are leaning!

[@scythermantis]

LYOTARD lol was "Leotard" a Freudian slip?

[@karolinasz.141]

does anyone know what microphone he's using?

[@whosaysthebunny]

Thank you for these videos John. Anybody know if they are in podcast form anywhere? I usually have more time to listen to lectures.

[@lars.hennewellner]

Yes, on Spotify.

[@whosaysthebunny]

Thanks Lars! You da man!

[@MDSaunders]

Does anyone else imagine the Axiom of Maria is the exact same thing as Hegel’s dialectic?

[@ThePathOfEudaimonia]

Even with the help of John's clarity I don't seem to follow Hegel.

[@johnvervaeke]

He is very challenging.

[@ThePathOfEudaimonia]

@@johnvervaeke Third time was the charm! I could follow these last lectures much better. Really excited to venture into the modern cogsci part soon. I feel very grateful. Thanks, John!

[@deepfriedsammich]

"Conversancy with Hegel tends to deprave one's intellect." -- John Stuart Mill

[@solomonreal1977]

"Ow! Stove: hot! Owww!!" - deepfriedsammich, attributed

[@1872959]

And yet day after day Mill becomes less and less relevant.

[@CrossandTaiji]

Watch this lecture series and then go listen to the lyrics of astronaut in the ocean

[@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69]

How do you say your last name is all I could think.

[@selfscience]

Hello John, I really need to contact you.