EP 32 Improving my solo docking technique with the 'Docking Stick'

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Patrick Laine

Patrick Laine

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@johnkromhout268
@johnkromhout268 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video (as usual!) showing the rest of us how you approach sailing challenges with curiosity, persistence, and humility. I'd like to compliment you also on your thoughtful camera positioning that makes it possible for us viewers to see what's happening so well. Your purposeful conversation and thrifty editing (and the summary text list at the start) ensure a meaningful experience for us, too. Thanks.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome back John. Far too kind as usual.
@clarkd1955
@clarkd1955 6 жыл бұрын
It is no wonder you are so good at driving your boat, you actually practice. What a novel idea. Love your videos. Thanks.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks David. I practiced lassoing technique too --- but to no avail! :-)
@rm5632
@rm5632 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Patrick, I”m a solo sailor & my boat (Hanse385) is in Marina San Miguel, Tenerife, Canary Islands. I have been totally inspired and convinced by your demonstration of the “Docking Stick” and bought one a couple of months ago. I’ve now practiced with it several times exactly the same way you use it and can confirm that it is certainly the answer to docking as a solo sailor. I’ve used it in “little to no wind” conditions, but also with winds of 20knots (pushing me off the pontoon)... & the maneuver works well every time. Thanks again Patrick and of course to the guys that invented and developed the Docking Stick. Please keep up the good work. I look forward to your postings. -Rob
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you are as satisfied wit the Docking Stick as I am. It has saved quite a number of difficult arrivals for me. I should ask them for a commission!
@rm5632
@rm5632 5 жыл бұрын
You probably don’t need the cash, but they are certainly getting a lot of mileage from your videos...
@walterweckers771
@walterweckers771 4 жыл бұрын
I have used a spring line for docking for a long time and the docking stick is certainly a handy tool, which I purchased about the same time you did. Similar to your experience, the bow of my boat swings into the dock when motoring forward, which is easily explained because the line is attached to the boat forward of the "pivot point". That is of no particular consequence if the bow is protected with a fender. In my case I tried to change the mid-ship cleat location further aft, but the result was a shorter spring line so as to avoid hitting the dock with the bow, and also less time for my crew to attach the line. As always, I enjoy seeing you in action and giving practical tips. Many thanks!
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 4 жыл бұрын
The next video (very short) shows the simple solution to the bow swinging in Walter. Many thanks for commenting.
@sailthebigorb7174
@sailthebigorb7174 6 жыл бұрын
After your video on the Efoy fuel cell generator this is the second really handy product you’ve introduced to me. Since I retire in 30 days with the plan on being a single-handed live aboard sailor soon these are big reasons why I watch and enjoy your videos so much. Please keep them coming and keep teaching. I also really enjoyed your commentary on route planning across strong tides in a recent video.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the imminent retirement Big Orb. It's fantastic when every day is Saturday. Fair winds to you!
@johnfrancisco8634
@johnfrancisco8634 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick, my docking has improved thanks to your tuition, less stress as well. You continue to share very practical information and technics in all your videos, thanks once again.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 5 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated John. Fair winds.
@dobadam1
@dobadam1 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea!! I had a lot od joy seeing you docking with this clever tool!
@bjornschofenheimsen5068
@bjornschofenheimsen5068 5 жыл бұрын
Dear Mentor: I am moving aboard my Catalina 42 & will be solo 90% of the time. These videos are invaluable- THANK YOU!!!
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 5 жыл бұрын
Made my day KH. Thanks
@22jaydogg
@22jaydogg 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Laine hello sir have you seen josh post? I really like your service to country but also your sailor ship! Josh post had this journey and was a tough one I was wondering if you had known him or sen it! When he tried going from Maryland to California but ran in trouble if you could have given kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6CyqYV-or6YqZaVdvice I’m trying to send the link it seems he was really real of the ordeal he was a naval officer
@redsnappersadler34
@redsnappersadler34 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick, as a fellow singlehander, I appreciate this type of video.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great feedback RedSnapper. Cheers.
@kurtb369
@kurtb369 4 жыл бұрын
seems to do the job very well ! enjoying your sailing adventures, takes me back down history lane.
@diyboatworks
@diyboatworks 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the docking stick. Made one for my boat and docking singlehanded is now much less stressful.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 4 ай бұрын
I now have a much shorter boat, so I don't find quite the same need for one, but I sure loved it on my 40 footer.....
@jamesconger8509
@jamesconger8509 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. I will definitely order a set. Along the same lines, you might like the Robship Hook and Moor. Makes snatching the ring on a mooring ball easy. I do it off the stern.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 Жыл бұрын
Many people just make them using hose, a line, and some velcro. That works just fine too. :-)
@jaysparc
@jaysparc 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Patrick -- Very solid dockmanship. The one place where everyone is a hero or a zero.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind encouragement Jay. Much appreciated.
@WavedancerWesterlyfulmar
@WavedancerWesterlyfulmar Жыл бұрын
We’re starting to use a loop on docking stick as we changed home port and the rear cleat is 10 further away than we were used to. Husband uses that whilst I step off with bow line
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have a patentable process in place! Fair winds.
@philgray1023
@philgray1023 3 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed by your docking skills Patrick. I'm not sure how their patent went because we have been using very similar methods for a long time. One is a $6 clam cleat screwed into a $10 aluminium tube. Just put a loop in the end of your line and wedge it in the cleat, bring the line back through the fairlead. The other "the dog catcher" I copied from a sports power boat owner. Simply thread your line through about 5 feet of electrical conduit pipe tie a loop in the end and bring the end through the fairlead to your winch. Once the loop is on the cleat you just let it go, no need to deal with the conduit, just haul in on your cleat. It is also very useful for catching dogs and keeping the biting bits away from you. Cost $4.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Yes, two great alternatives. Ladies on another channel I watch just use a piece of hose and some velcro and it seems to work just fine. The KISS principle. For info, the first gadget like this I bought (quite expensive), had a bit of a complicated rotating hook and line to capture the cleat. I practiced in my living room and it seemed to work OK. On my very first docking with it, the rotating hook device broke. The very first use! I love your simple solutions.
@twiper
@twiper 6 жыл бұрын
Today I got my boat launched, used one of the "Patrick Laine" tricks with a little more power on the throttle so I don't loose the ability to steer. Worked perfectly so again thanks for your videos, appreciate them. Greetings from Tino :)
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Terrific Tino. Delighted to hear you and your immaculately maintained boat are out on the water now. Let the adventure begin!
@edwinprins1563
@edwinprins1563 6 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and share your 'interest'in docking solo. My prefered method, after much trial and many errors, on a parallel pontoon is to slowely back into to the pontoon on a angle of about 45 degrees. I have a big round fender at the back of the boat. I get the boat to stop very precisely (after practice) next to the cleat i want. Simply drop over the line, tighten it and secure it. Then i put the gear in forward and the boat wil slowely and controlled push itself against the dock so you can do the rest of the lines. I love this method because you have so much control and I stay behind the wheel until the boat sits firmly against the pontoon. My boat is pretty low, so i just drop the line on the cleat. With a hight boat I can imagine the docking stick could be usefull in the manoeuvre as well.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Completely agree Edwin. If you look at my Episode 18 (the one with docking examples), you'll see me do exactly that (back in at 45 degrees, stop one foot from the cleat and drop the line over it, then motor forward). (I also filmed doing this in a very tight docking situation in Scarborough, England, but I forget the episode number.) It works very, very well as you say, but there are times when it is not practical to do, and for those times, the Docking Stick will be a nice addition to the tool box. Thanks for commenting.
@edwinprins1563
@edwinprins1563 6 жыл бұрын
That was one of the very few episodes I didn’t watch completely for some reason. The technique you showed there was exactly what I meant. Thank you for responding and keep up the great work. If you ever plan a trip to Holland let me know and maybe we can practice together ;-)
@NotBob223
@NotBob223 6 жыл бұрын
So a great pilot and ship's captain but a lousy cowboy! Another great video. When I first got my sailboat (decades ago), I practiced approaching a race buoy (not much more than a fender on an anchor) out in the river stream away from the marina (but still where I'd have to deal with the current and winds) from any direction plus forwards and backwards so that I could bring the boat alongside on my chosen compass heading without actually touching the buoy but so that I could easily grab it. Once I got good enough at that and knew the turning circle of the boat in both directions - especially when "assisted" by winds and currents, I would try it against the docks in the yacht club. One of my favourite spots to watch the "fun with docking" is at the local marina gas dock which is in the river channel between two large lakes. There is often a 4-5 knot current and it's fun to watch boats try to pull up to the gas dock coming from upstream. They are furiously turning the wheel (and of course nothing happens because their boat isn't moving through the water even though it's moving at a real clip over the ground). Lots of yelling and screaming by the crew and captains. The marina should probably have a sign up to tell the skippers what to do but I'm guessing it's cheap entertainment for the dock rats.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
I actually find current much more difficult (and deceptive) to deal with than the wind Brent. On my recent trip to Shetland, I went to the refueling station in one port in dead calm wind (but failed to notice 3 knots of current). It was a very ugly approach. Fortunately, only the seagulls saw it, and they found it amusing. :-)
@pdutube
@pdutube 6 жыл бұрын
As a US based private pilot and a somewhat equally proficient sailor, I believe that nautical navigators with indeterminate destinations are at a deficit compared to aviators who indulge in explicit meteorological description of their destination. In other words, a pilot shooting an approach to an airport is better off than a sailor attempting to dock or anchor at a vaguely documented mooring field.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah -- what he said. :-)
@NotBob223
@NotBob223 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the only thing worse than trying to approach a dock under wind in current in a sailboat is to do it in a floatplane. You can't really power up to it as you'd chop up the dock and/or dockhands and so have to shut down and hope for the best once you commit. They weather cock the second the prop wash is gone so it can be "fun". I learned to dock floatplanes when I was 16 before I ever tried it with sailboats and I think it has made me much more proficient at that. I always spend a lot of time thinking about it before I make the approach to the dock and try to have escape plans. Doing approaches to minimums was a lot less stressful to me because I always felt there was an easy out on the missed approach if things weren't going well even if I couldn't see the runway that was down there somewhere. That said, I think you Navy guys always had the toughest job... landing on a pitching deck at night in crappy conditions after fighting your way out and back to the boat. Makes docking seem like parking at the mall in comparison.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
I have never flown a float plane, but now that you mention it, I can easily envisage the great complexity of docking the beast. Wow. Lots of variable to deal with, and no reverse gear! Degree of difficulty '10'. I tip my hat to thee.
@stephenhanger2521
@stephenhanger2521 5 жыл бұрын
Now thats very fine. I'll bet I could have watched a 100 sailing Videos and never ounce would have seen or heard of a Docking Stick let alone seen one used..
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 5 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated Stephen.
@gemamartinez6898
@gemamartinez6898 4 жыл бұрын
your videos are great! I love watching them and learning more. Just one point here, your pivot point is further back closer to the stern, so if you do your spring line for docking from the stern, instead of from midship cleat, you won’t get your bow to the dock. no need for fenders on the bow. keep doin more!! and thank you
@gemamartinez6898
@gemamartinez6898 4 жыл бұрын
ups sorry! I just saw you already got a new video refining the technique and having into account the pivot point! that’s awesome. sorry for being annoying. and thanks again for your docking videos
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 4 жыл бұрын
Your reaction was the same as hundreds of others. No problem. I learn something each time I go out! Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@claireroche4486
@claireroche4486 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Patrick ,I am resuming sailing on the river Shannon in Ireland, and this is exactly what I was looking for ! Very best wishes ,down ' every sea road ' from Claire Roche.
@mrybboryesmar
@mrybboryesmar 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Patrick, nice gadget! Got to get one too. As for parallel docking ... I use a different technique that might be easier. I back into the (parallel) jetty at an angle, preferably jetty to starboard because that's where my throttle control is. Then I throw a stern line over a cleat on the jetty and adjust the length. No walking required - I am there at the wheel anyway. Then cleat off at stern and put engine in forward. The bow will come around and finally the boat will kiss the jetty. I can then walk off the boat and tie other lines while the engine is still in forward. Once tied off the engine goes into neutral. I specifically use this technique if the spot is tight, as I can take my time to adjust the stern line in step 1 to be as far back as desired. Great for solo!
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob. If you watch Ep 18, I do exactly that maneuver. I use it from time to time, but not as often as I probably should. I have also had three 'memorable' docking events doing that. The wind was blowing very hard off the dock, and I reversed in a bit steep, probably 40° rather than my preferred 30°. I got the line over the cleat and motored forward, but there was no way to bring the bow in, no mater how much power or reverse rudder I applied. I ended up 90° to the dock, and the only way out of that was to release the line and try again. Lesson learned: combinations of wind and/or current can make that reversing in technique very challenging.
@Clime5LEDinc
@Clime5LEDinc 2 жыл бұрын
@@patricklaine6958 Agreed! I had a similar experience. I prefer the midship cleat approach much better.
@williamclark8917
@williamclark8917 6 жыл бұрын
Bill Clark Interesing video on a much neglected aspect. Good to see you addressing it. Actually I use a very slightly different approach which I got from a book. I have a temporary mooring line set up from a mooring cleat on the boat just in front of the cockpit and passed loosely back through the rear side rail to a jamming cleat. I bring the boat into the pontoon and stopped with appropriate use of reverse. I then drop the line over the cleat (lasso it!) and pull the portion through the side rail tight and secure it in the jamming cleat. I then put the motor on again at slow ahead. The alignment of the mooring line causes the boat to turn into the pontoon and be held there. At this point I am able to get mooring lines on deck and step ashore when necessary to moor the boat. When lines are attached the motor can be stopped. This works for me and much better that my earlier methods - basically variations on crash landing!. The use of the docking stick would prevent the embarrassing situation of failing to lasso the cleat first time and perhaps drifting off pontoon. I will seek out one. My proposed method only differs from that in the video in that the mooring line is attached much further aft and the engine is put slow ahead to cause the boat to neatly hold itself to the pontoon. Give it a try - solved my problems.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think there is any difference in our approaches Bill. I am very familiar with this pontoon so used the mid ship spring rather than the aft line (which would have been easier and pulled the boat in very nicely --- and it is a technique that I use regularly --- and even filmed in episode 18). I fully understand the theory of using the various spring lines and motoring forward or aft ----- that is not my problem. I become a clumsy idiot when I try to lasso a cleat --- even one that is VERY close. (And I have watched every video out there about taking two loops, and throwing wide like an angel's wings …..) I just struggle with the 'lasso' part. I'm hoping this Docking Stick tool will take that problem away. :-) Thanks for the great comment.
@williamclark8917
@williamclark8917 6 жыл бұрын
William Clark l ike yourself I will source a docking stick to make the process more slick - keep the videos coming - I like your style and attitude and being comfortable sharing it all with us.
@ratusbagus
@ratusbagus 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty good lassooing...but then when I'm doing it, there's someone else actively helming us near the dock. I've never tried lassooing knowing I have to pull in, tie off and run back to the helm right after.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Great comment. When I practice lassoing I never miss, but combine that with maneuvering to get in the right position, stopping (or nearly stopping the boat with the throttle), then running to midships to grab the line and then turning and spotting the cleat you want to lasso ----- well, I miss 20% of the time --- and usually when it is very windy and blowing my boat into danger. I'll think I'll try the Docking Stick for a few months. :-)
@2i0ber
@2i0ber 8 ай бұрын
Perfect and simple solution! 🙏
@stevelawrie9115
@stevelawrie9115 5 жыл бұрын
Good method Patrick. Can't wait for your future videos.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. The more I used the Docking Stick, the more I liked it!
@georgecanakis1075
@georgecanakis1075 6 жыл бұрын
Thats cool for single handed makes the job much easier. Good video Patrick cheers sir.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
It sure made a good first impression on me George. I'll keep using it over the coming months, and then do a quick update. Thanks for commenting.
@robertorzech2466
@robertorzech2466 6 жыл бұрын
I like that docking stick ! It reminds me of the old days when we had to hoop up train orders to the engine man and also the conductor in the caboose. The operator on the ground tied the orders to a wooden hoop with a handle that could reach up to the engine and the engineer scooped it up with his arm , took the orders off and dropped the hoop back out the window to the operator in three feet of snow. Then they smartened up by using a stick that resembled a wye instead of a hoop they had 3 clips one at each triangle point. Now the engineer just used his arm to scoop up the string hoop attached to the 3 clips that let the string slip free of the stick. So the crew ended up with the string with the train orders attacked and the operator didn't have to walk a mile for his stick. I like the Idea of the 3 clips on the triangle of the open Vee on the end of the pole.Makes it much easier to snag a cleat on shore. I'm going to make a couple of those. Thanks Patrick !
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert. Building a better mousetrap. Always great fun experimenting. :-)
@SoundzAlive1
@SoundzAlive1 4 жыл бұрын
So two large pegs would do. André
@crismoore6811
@crismoore6811 5 жыл бұрын
Wow I held my breath with the off shore wind docking. I find docking and getting into slips easy UNLESS there is a lot of wind. I was in the baltic. Offshore wind. The dock higher. We were drifting off dock and the captain yelled jump off ( we were already 3 feet away.).dock above like soap from rain. I did nothing. Not going to fall between ship and dock. You are GOOD.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah --- I agree completely. If you need to jump, everyone should just settle down, and circle around again. Jumping is far too dangerous.
@thedarkroomukltd7541
@thedarkroomukltd7541 3 жыл бұрын
I know this was a while ago but if you set a shorter line through your midship fairlead and back to the winch, you can motor against it and pull the boat in. It means a walk to midships and back but it gives you more control once you're hooked on.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 3 жыл бұрын
You lost me there Darkroom. The line does run from the midship fairlead to the winch, and I motor against it to pull the boat in. It may be clearer in my short Episode 33 where I refined the technique a bit.
@thedarkroomukltd7541
@thedarkroomukltd7541 3 жыл бұрын
@@patricklaine6958 I'll check that video, but motoring against a midship line pulls the boat into the pontoon. You're right though - armchair skippering is easy! I've enjoyed your videos very much. Hope you can get out again but covid has messed up everything
@davebrady8430
@davebrady8430 6 жыл бұрын
Very educational vlog Patrick. Small price to pay for the success of the product for docking. It'll pay itself off in no time for someone like you, with the amount of sailing you do.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
It's interesting what you say Dave. There is a port about 50 NM from my home base that I like to visit, but always dread, because the wind is always blowing directly off the pontoon at 15 knots. You have about 5 seconds to get the lasso around the cleat. Very high stress. I now look forward to visiting that port again. The Docking Stick has already paid for itself in reduced stress and increased pleasure. :-)
@marsupial26
@marsupial26 6 жыл бұрын
C'est bon! Looks like a great piece of kit. I'll add it to my armoury of single-handed bits and pieces! Merci beaucoup
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
It made a very positive impression on me Marsupial. I'm certainly going to continue experimenting with it over then next few months.
@SailingYachtSaltyLass
@SailingYachtSaltyLass 6 жыл бұрын
I love it. I shall certainly give it a go. Thanks Patrick. My current technique is to make two coils (one for each hand) and throw them forward and outward (slightly left and slightly right) so that a big loop opens up. It is great when it works, but I love the Docking Stick (of course, I need to buy a new boathook after dropping mine in the Irish Sea)
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I hear you -- I'm tired of missing with the lasso technique (two hands, two coils, etc.). Last week one of the most respected, and most experienced sailing couples on KZbin missed the cleat lasso also (perfectly executed with two coils). (If you have time, watch my Ep 33 which refines my new technique a bit.) It's funny what you say about your gaff. I tried to pull a mooring ball in in high seas with my gaff. The boat went up, the ball went down, and the force of 10 tonnes pulled the gaff right out of my hands. I watched it float away......donated to King Neptune. :-) I now use a detachable hook device to capture the mooring ball, and when I have to pull it in in high winds, I put it on the winch. Thanks for commenting.
@lutherfiggs1866
@lutherfiggs1866 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Just ordered a docking stick. Can't wait to go practice.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
I really think I'm going to like this new (for me) tool. As Humphrey Bogart once famously said, "I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship." :-) Thanks for watching.
@sassy6292
@sassy6292 6 жыл бұрын
Fabulous! I learned two excellent skills in this video:)! I hadn't thought of running a spring line through the forward cleat and using the aft crank to snug! Brilliant and it's going to be our next experiment. Also, I love the docking stick AND one of your followers mentioned something about a hose creating a stable loop in the docking line...that's definitely going to be tried. Also, I had a bit of a victory the other day...we had to turn the boat around at dock so that we could apply the name of the boat to the other side of the bow section. So I said to my husband that there's no problem doing that if he stands on the dock and secures the forward dock line, that was moved to its proper cleat, and I simply reverse engine quarter speed which will bring the boat neatly around. He said that would not work and actually said it's impossible. So I pressed him into at least trying. There was no wind I might add. So he relented and I manned the helm as he manned the dock line and the experiment ensued with great success. He said, with a very blank and vacant expression on his face, it worked...we have not spoken of this since and probably never will. I was banking on the prop walk in reverse walking us over to the dock. I also had the helm turned hard to Port...I think it was to port lol. Perhaps you could comment on his and tell me if I was just crazy lucky or was my thinking on the right track?
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the successful '18' maneuver Frances. I once did a weekend of maneuvers with a group and a pro, and he made us reverse a boat against a pontoon just using lines; then again using lines and the engine; and finally, just using the boat's engine. Very instructive. It sounds like you have nailed that technique on your own. Bravo. Many thanks for the kind feedback.
@SailingwiththeFoxwellFamily
@SailingwiththeFoxwellFamily 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Patrick We do a similar thing but rather than winch the boat in we just hook onto a cleat further back and then motor forward to bring the boat alongside. We then just leave it sitting in gear which holds her in position while we sort everything out.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, exactly -- my focus was on the Docking Stick this time. I can easily move the spring line back 1.5 meters, and I'm sure the boat will pull in nicely when in forward gear then. I really do think the Docking Stick is a vast improvement over trying to lasso. Think I'm going to like this. :-)
@wholderby
@wholderby 6 жыл бұрын
For me just a nice long telescoping gaff will allow you to pull close. The first attempt you still pulled away quite a bit though it might just be something you will fix with practice. I have seen these thanks so much for the demo!
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah -- it's an easy fix William (that I'll probably film the next time out). I'm a bit nervous about depending on a gaff to pull it in. We do have 4-5 meters of tide, so the current can get a bit tricky there. And, I have already lost a gaff once by trying to pull in a mooring buoy in rough weather. The 10 tonne boat was much heavier than I am strong. :-)
@wholderby
@wholderby 6 жыл бұрын
Wow 4-5 Meter tides, no wonder your docks mostly seem like floating docks there :) - in the Keys we have a couple of feet max. Yeah the gaff pull is not at all a perfect science either. We have had some spectacular issues a couple of times but we found having the wife up front with 1 gaff and me with the option to use one back at the helm worked. Of course you are single handing it so I totally understand the complexity you face. Always enjoy watching your exploits and appreciate you sharing the good and the bad as well as your reviews on products that might be of interest to us all.
@andydunn5673
@andydunn5673 4 жыл бұрын
Nice one Patrick We find leaving our birth And coming back to our birth And locking in and out at the beginning and end of the sail the most stressful by far .... Crazy but true Thanks for sharing
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 4 жыл бұрын
In a later episode I show my first locking in/out (in Wales). It takes a lot of practice to get comfortable with these maneuvers when you are single-handed. I'm getting there, but not quite yet.
@andydunn5673
@andydunn5673 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Laine I watched last night, great stuff my friend. Please keep sharing
@surcamar
@surcamar 6 жыл бұрын
I consider your videos very interesting and instructive. Thank you for sharing.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks (again) for commenting Jose.
@RichardPhillips10
@RichardPhillips10 6 жыл бұрын
Suggestion on lassooing technique (which I use from 70 ton Dutch barge..). One end of the rope is fast to the boat. Coil the remainder carefully. Hold the tail in the left hand and the coil in the right. Throw the whole line with the right hand in a big sweeping motion. With a bit of practice you can get it to open into a wide, expansive loop. This gives an excellent chance of getting it over the target cleat, at which point pull on the tail and cleat off on the boat when ready. At the distance shown in the video I could probably catch the cleat 90% of the time. The secret is getting a nice wide, but on target loop of rope in the air! Try it - it works. I have never seen sailors do it, but barge handlers also have techniques that work!
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard. I get what you are describing (and there are several sailing videos which demonstrate this technique with slight variations). My challenge is arriving at the midship line on the run from the helm. When I pick up the coil, I'll invariably get the bitter end tangled with one of the loops, or will have placed the line on the cabin roof in such a way as it makes more sense to pick the coil up with the left hand, rather than the right, etc. It's always something! :-) Nevertheless, I had a success rate of 75 or 80%, but the 20% I miss could at times be very scary, as the boat will have lost all way and the bow may be headed downwind dangerously toward another (expensive) yacht. Since I made thid video, I have used the Docking Stick a half dozen times in ports I was not familiar with, and it worked perfectly. Stress free docking. That's for me. Thanks for the comment.
@RichardPhillips10
@RichardPhillips10 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick. Yes the docking stick look like a good solution. I am hoping to solo sail at some point and am watching your adventures with great interest and learning! Hope you keep doing the videos, they get the tone, pitch and yaw just right!
@cometjockeydave4041
@cometjockeydave4041 2 жыл бұрын
I knew a guy who tied a spring line from the bow to an 18 inch metal or wood hoop at the cockpit, and a stern line to the same hoop. After making initial adjustments to the lengths of the lines at the dock and marking them accordingly, all he had to do was pull up to his slip, and toss the hoop over the cleat near the stern, and leave the motor in gear at low speed. He didn't even have to winch himself in. Using your stick idea with the hoop, would mean never having to winch in afterwards, and landing the hoop in place every time.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 2 жыл бұрын
That's a clever solution. I've since changed boats, and my new one behaves very differently due to twin rudders and the prop wash does not touch the rudders. I'll give this idea some thought...... Thanks.
@barrythompson8858
@barrythompson8858 6 жыл бұрын
That is fantastic, I will practice that at my earliest opportunity
@edwardmalthouse973
@edwardmalthouse973 6 ай бұрын
I love your channel! Thank you for the ideas!
@alexd183d3
@alexd183d3 6 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Thank you. Gave me a little more confidence that I can start single hand a sail boat.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Terrific. Delighted to hear more people wanting to get out there on their own. Thanks for the feedback Pro Driver.
@maxrudder6091
@maxrudder6091 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! A great use for the "tiller" that's now on my sailing kayak/trimaran. Thanks for the idea!
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for watching Gary.
@emorganwright
@emorganwright 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick for demonstrating how the docking stick can help. Sometimes the 'better mousetrap' actually works. :) Please do let us know in future updates how much the 20% failure rate improves when using the stick.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
That's a promise Jack. I purposely didn't come out and say, "This is fantastic, everyone should get one." It seems very promising at first view, but I want to test it very thoroughly in numerous scenarios. I'll give more feedback after more experience with this system.
@opuspaul
@opuspaul 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea. Thanks. One thing though. If the line was attached to a spring cleat or hard point more towards the rear third of the boat, the bow wouldn't swing into the dock when strain comes on to it.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Opus. Please see Episode 33. :-)
@Maddie-Girl
@Maddie-Girl 6 жыл бұрын
I use the same Teaneck but I have a snubber line cleated midship that way u can drive it onto the dock
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a couple of ready made anchor points I can use aft of the fairlead (that I used in this video). I'll move the spring line back to have the same affect as your snubber line next time out. I'm sure it will smoothly pull the boat in. Thanks for watching.
@boatingforbeginners7949
@boatingforbeginners7949 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Idea and good video footage/editing too, Thanks for Sharing.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 5 жыл бұрын
Very kind of you. Much appreciated.
@boatingforbeginners7949
@boatingforbeginners7949 5 жыл бұрын
@@patricklaine6958 I'm just about to watch Episode 2 Sailing Solo to Azores: How to Sleep on a Sailboat at Sea, kettle on and looking forward to it Patrick
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 5 жыл бұрын
The sound quality is exceptionally bad in some of the early episodes. Apologies in advance.
@boatingforbeginners7949
@boatingforbeginners7949 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Patrick, Just watched upto Ep13 and thoroughly enjoyed it, Thankyou for sharing your seafaring experiences. Have just subd and look forward to watching more adventures. Keep up the great work, Greetings from Crete, Greece. Carl
@Kleman500
@Kleman500 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video, Patrick. Thank you.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback Kleman.
@nealeburgess6756
@nealeburgess6756 4 жыл бұрын
That looks good. If you can be that successful with it at first attempt, imagine how good you will be with practice. I forgot to comment on your non return valve syphoning tool (on an earlier video). Good stuff! Simple is always best. In fact I think I will copy it for fueling my trackday motorbike. I usually get petrol everywhere using a funnel.
@Nixontheman
@Nixontheman 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting, looking forward to your next episode.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks (again) Nixon.
@SteveWrightNZ
@SteveWrightNZ 6 жыл бұрын
2:00 if you move this point on the gunwale further aft, with power the yacht will naturally align with the dock without input of helm. I did see it demonstrated somewhere, but can't find it. Maybe 150knots over the threshold in 20knots of crosswind might genuinely be easier? :)
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly Steve,, and it is a very easy fix on my boat as the hardware is already in place about 1.5 meters further aft. I was just focused on the utility of the Docking Stick this time out -- and really liked it. As for threshold crosswinds --- wing down, top rudder --- piece of cake. :-)
@verynearlyaboutsailing8114
@verynearlyaboutsailing8114 6 жыл бұрын
That looks like a very useful accessory to have on board. Very important to stay back in the cockpit - although I have been very lazy on occasions and jumped off the middle of the boat with a centre line in hand. I tend to use a loop (bridle) from the centre cleat back to the winch. I can then throw the loop in a wide arc from the cockpit onto a cleat. I can then tighten it up. However, if it did go wrong there would be a lot of line in the water quite close to the prop, so possibly a bit risky.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. Yeah -- it's too early to say definitively, but I really enjoyed this first experience. I'm tired of racing to midships only to miss the lasso. I'll tweek the location of the fairlead pivot point so it pulls in a bit more gracefully --- or, if possible, just work from the helm position and tie it off on the aft cleat. This gaff extension also gives more confidence when backing in. Sometimes the cleats on the pontoon are quite a ways off to the side, so this gives a potentially easy way to get a line over them fairly rapidly too. Others have suggested to me to just jump off the boat with mooring lines in hand, but I've never been brave enough to do that. :-)
@bengriffiths2185
@bengriffiths2185 5 жыл бұрын
What an awesome journey ! Thanks for sharing
@Wanderns
@Wanderns 6 жыл бұрын
I love yours videos. Amazing. Please continue doing it
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great feedback Wander N. Much appreciated.
@Brikers1
@Brikers1 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive, great teaching !
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Brikers. Episode 33 cleans up some of the messiness of Ep 32. ;-)
@leaturk11
@leaturk11 6 жыл бұрын
good vid as usual, keep them coming Pat
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement William.
@graemescott990
@graemescott990 6 жыл бұрын
I love the Docking Stick it look like a great improvement on my homemade version :-) One thing I did with mine was to fit a block at the pivot point. That way I could adjust how far forward or back the pivot point was which meant that the bow didn't dive into the dock when you applied power. each boat is different but it is rare for the centre cleat to be the best pivot point.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly Graeme. Exactly, exactly! In my dream scenario, I get comfortable with using the Docking Stick from the helm position (despite the bimini frame, despite the narrower stern -- and greater distance to the pontoon cleat). I'll then just attach the line to the aft cleat on the boat, and drive smoothly forward. If I can't get comfortable from there, I will experiment with a block at various potential forward pivot points. Great comment.
@darrylbeattie737
@darrylbeattie737 6 жыл бұрын
That seems to be very helpful. Docking is stressful enough. Thanks for sharing
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Darryl. Trying something new, after admitting a weak lasso technique.
@Chris-fo8wp
@Chris-fo8wp 6 жыл бұрын
Another outstanding video, the importance of spring lines can not be over emphasized, Fair Winds!!
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Chris. Much appreciated.
@mytube001
@mytube001 6 жыл бұрын
In the first example, why route the line through the middle of the boat? You're standing at the back, so if the line is tied to the aft cleat, you can tighten by hand, and gently step off the boat with a pre-tied line from the bow cleat, walk forward and tie it off further down the pontoon. That's the way I do it, and the boat is parallel and tied off in 15-20 seconds.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
I hope to get to the technique you use MyTube, but for right now, I'm not sure that I can (100% of the time) reach the pontoon cleat from the helm position due to greater distance and obstructions (allowing use of the aft cleat on the boat as you suggest). For these first tests, I have to go forward to the cockpit to grab the pontoon cleat (they are much closer from there), and then I can't reach the aft cleat to tie it off…….. I'll keep experimenting though. Thanks for commenting.
@leedrory1587
@leedrory1587 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Patrick. The Docking Stick will work better if you find your boat's pivot point. It will be somewhere after of midship and closer to the hatch's line. And when you leave it in forward have the helm fully away from the dock so prop wash brings Isabelle's stern against the dock. You can also use it as your last line to release when leaving the dock. I attach a leader line from the loop that I can pull the loop off the dock cleat when in neutral. Experiment.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah -- no problem Lee. I just concentrated on the function of the Docking Stick this time out. I'll shift the pivot point back a meter and a half tomorrow by attaching a block with a snap shackle to an eye near the toe rail. I'm sure that will result in the whole boat being pulled in nicely with a bit of opposite helm. Thanks for commenting.
@descooke1
@descooke1 4 жыл бұрын
I notice the ferries on Sydney Harbour always attach the stern line first, while the ferry has a little forward motion, and the effect is that the remaining forward motion then swings the ferry toward the wharf ready for the other lines to be attached. If you did this you could attach the stern line from the cockpit, and leave the engine running forward to hold it against the wharf while you went forward to attach those lines.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 4 жыл бұрын
And that is a taught tactic in many sailing schools DC. It does require the bollard/cleat on the pontoon to be in the right place, and to have space on the stern of your boat to move around in. (Mine is very cluttered with bimini, back stays, life buoy, davits, GPS, etc.....)
@mongsmcmonagle
@mongsmcmonagle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Patrick!
@marcderveeuw
@marcderveeuw 6 жыл бұрын
Great Idea and a good device for the docking. We should be able to make it from PVC pipes, probably at a lower cost. Thanks for the video.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
It isn't a high tech device --- so am sure variations on a theme could be easily built at home Marc. I'm too lazy (and not clever enough). :-)
@larsnoreng
@larsnoreng 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Patrick, the stick is much better and easier. Most sailors may not know which way the propeller turns when reversing; typically to port. So approach on the port side so the reverse brings you closer to dock. Still; great videos and keep on producing stp!
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 3 жыл бұрын
Good tip Lars! I've got a lot to learn on this boat.
@johnnychristo4895
@johnnychristo4895 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Patrick An impressive tool. I admire that you show the occasional mishap which we all have some(me) more than others L🤣L On the part where your docking near the fuel pumps I notice that you dock using your forward cleat. If you used your stern cleat (with a generous feeding payout of line to suppress the impact) wouldn’t that pull the boat into the dock plus less risk of lines hung up on staunchions?
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 3 жыл бұрын
That's true Chris. I use the midship cleat for two reasons: the aft quarter is difficult to operate from (reach objects, throw lines, etc.) on my boat due to the bimini, a GPS, a life ring, davits, and the helm; and, if there is no convenient shore cleat next to the stern when you position alongside, you may have to drive forward quite a ways until the next one. By using the midship line, you can easily adjust forward or aft a meter or two to get to a shore cleat. After that lengthy response, I do agree with you ----- if you can get a line ashore from the aft cleat, it is very easy to then just motor forward a bit and the maneuver is over.
@johnnychristo4895
@johnnychristo4895 3 жыл бұрын
@@patricklaine6958 thanks for reply I thought I was missing something. Now I understand. 😊👍
@pedromorais1101
@pedromorais1101 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for All your videos. Inspiring and learning. Maybe you have mention in some videos, but can I ask what biat do you sail. Looks a Bavaria 40. But can you confirm. Thanks
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, a German-built Bavaria 40 Cruiser from 2008. Thanks for watching.
@pedromorais1101
@pedromorais1101 4 жыл бұрын
@@patricklaine6958 welcome. Im 48 now and the idea on owning my first sailing boat is growing. Done around 20 weeks now sailing in greece, Spain and croatia and of course some near shoore in Portugal atlântic. Bad experiences in atlantic when we left withou even looks at the Weathers conditions, very early days but learned my lesson... Also in greece wiht maltemi reaping off the genoa. But still here to tell the story. When you have some free moments if you could Share some advices tips on boat selection would apreciate. Good sailings. Pedro
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 4 жыл бұрын
20 weeks of sailing is a strong experience base. That should make the transition to ownership fairly straight-forward. I'd recommend taking a pro out with you a coupe of times after purchase, just to ask for his critique of your techniques. I found that very helpful in my case.
@NatesRandomVideo
@NatesRandomVideo 6 жыл бұрын
A very practical solution. Does your boat prop walk much in the direction of prop rotation? Reason I ask is it could make a difference in which side you approach from if you’re stuck using the midship cleat and can’t pivot well. Any little thing may help or hurt, trying to get the tail in.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Great comment Nate. However, I have a sail drive (prop much further forward than a traditional shaft-prop system), so prop walk is not a great factor. I have a friend with the same size boat and a prop/shaft classic --- and if he just 'thinks' reverse gear, his boat jumps to port. :-) Fair winds.
@replatablet4849
@replatablet4849 6 жыл бұрын
very good video as always.. thanks for your time..
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated Repla.
@yojimbos1
@yojimbos1 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. This is what's it all about. Not bikinis and drama but seamanship, skills and practice. Thanks for the inspiration and ideas from a novice. Big expensive boats that don't suffer the mistakes of the ill informed.
@erents1
@erents1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, great device for any sailor.
@KIJs-gc6ux
@KIJs-gc6ux 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Patrick, love your videos a lot. Saling single-handed is always a bit precarious, especially docking alone. I like your dock stick, but don't really understand why you want to use the mid cleat (if not 20 +knots sidewind offshore) on a long pontoon. I used to pick the rear cleats for this, let the rope slow the boat down as you do too, then use forward throttle (sometimes more than half throttle) to push the boat to pontoon. On stronger offshore sidewind take the wheel to starbord to force the bow back. Corresponding bowline led to cockpit. Rear cleat rope now also function as spring-line so you just jump on the pontoon with your corresponding bow line. What say you ? Best wishes, Carol 🇳🇱
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I understand the technique you describe. My rear quarter is quite loaded with stuff that makes lassoing a bit of a challenge: davits, GPS, life buoy, bimini frame, and the stern is 0.5 meters further away from the dock than midships. That said, I do exactly as you suggest sometimes, usually when I reverse in, then motor forward against the stern cleat.
@Gaudacorte
@Gaudacorte 6 жыл бұрын
Patrick ,while watching your approach parallel to the quay ,I had an idea which might prevent the stern swinging out when holding the back spring, how about placing the stern line with the back spring on the docking stick to the same bollard & pay out together until along side. Great mooring tips, Im looking forward to your next video.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea James, but I have an even simpler solution ---- I just need to move the spring line attach point back about 1.5 meters from the fairlead position that I used in this video, to an eye in the deck or a cleat that are already in place. I'll probably film it the next time out. I'm sure it will then smoothly pull the boat in. Thanks for the suggestion (that I'm sure would work also).
@Seafariireland
@Seafariireland Жыл бұрын
If you think enough about problems the solution will eventually become clear. A long stick with 2 elastic bands would be another possible solution?
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 Жыл бұрын
Yes, a lot of people have manufactured their own. Just a stick that will support a length of line with a loop will work well. It doesn't have to be fancy.
@bkluex5818
@bkluex5818 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Video and good idea! I prefer to enter backwards, cause then I don't have to run...
@TheGdel
@TheGdel 4 жыл бұрын
Superb! I did not know of this! Great even if not solo
@mccloghrys
@mccloghrys 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff Patrick! Thanks for the exploring the options and posting videos, They def help alot. keep them coming! Would you do one where you explain reverse docking into your marina slip & how you do it?
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
To be honest Matthew, I don't reverse in that much, so am far from an expert at it. (I don't back in because 1) line handling in that mode is often challenging for a solo sailor and 2) in my home port, you lose a lot of privacy by backing in (on my pontoon). I'll film a couple more though --- can't promise that they will be great.
@richardcasey4439
@richardcasey4439 Жыл бұрын
Even in my 14’ Jon boat, docking in any wind can be challenging
@todddunn945
@todddunn945 6 жыл бұрын
A couple of pointer to improve your coming along side technique. 1. Come in at a steeper angle and turn later. 2. Once you have the aft spring on a cleat motor forward with the helm hard over away from the dock. In other words, if your are coming in starboard side to, put the helm hard to port once you have the aft spring on a cleat. That will pull the boat along side and bring the stern in.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Todd. I think I do all of that. In this case (the first time I used the Docking Stick), I ran the spring line through the fairlead, which was too far forward (and caused the bow to be pulled in a bit sharply). I'll move the spring line back 1.5 meters, and it should pull the boat in nicely when I motor ahead with helm away from the pontoon. Thanks for the helpful tips.
@todmills
@todmills 6 жыл бұрын
Have you tried an "amidship" cleat that is a wee bit further aft? There is a great video by the Maryland School of Seamanship about docking techniques...
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah --- This first experience with the Docking Stick Tod was just to see, 'Can I capture a pontoon from the cockpit?' I was fairly happy with the outcome. Now I will run various experiments to perfect the methodology --- perhaps dropping the fairlead as it is too far forward, or gaining enough confidence that I can reach the pontoon cleat from the helm position -- in which case I'll just fix it to the aft cleat on the boat. In other words, there are a number of variations on a theme I can use. I'll pick one I get the most comfortable with and report back in a few months. Re the Maryland School video: I saw a docking video that was quite good on how to use prop walk to help with alignment when sliding in between pylons, but haven't seen any others on docking. I'll do another search.
@todmills
@todmills 6 жыл бұрын
Your docking stick did look like it worked very well.
@rimasmeleshyus6545
@rimasmeleshyus6545 6 жыл бұрын
Good job,many thanks for sharing video.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rimas. The next short video shows how I improved on this slightly by adjusting the attachment point. Thanks for watching.
@melee401
@melee401 6 жыл бұрын
I like that. The very worst predicament I ever saw was a 20-25kt wind coming across the Frederiksted pier on St. Croix. Single screw, 414' frigate docking to leeward. Missed the 1st attempt. Fortunately it was a very long pier. Got a bow and stern line off on the next run in. Ended up hanging off it 120 meters out. Took nearly two hours to winch that boat in.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
I found myself hanging off one line once in very high winds (at the same pontoon I was at in this video). Nothing I could do to bring the bow back in. I finally just released the stern line after 5 embarrassing minutes and came back for a second attempt. :-) Thanks for commenting.
@melee401
@melee401 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing good ever comes of a sailor who gets themselves on wrong side of the wind. :)
@TheRectory33
@TheRectory33 5 жыл бұрын
Good morning Patrick. Just been going over some of your earlier videos and very much like this device. I went online and it seems to be manufactured in Canada and can be purchased for US boaters from Amazon.com (US). I can't find a site to purchase it for delivery in the UK. Can you advise where you got yours or point me to a website? Thanks Mike
@TheRectory33
@TheRectory33 5 жыл бұрын
Dohh! Just seen the end of the video. Apologies. I will purchase from Amazon US.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 5 жыл бұрын
Someone else told me that the site where I bought mine is no longer offering them. L You might have to import them from the USA and pay duties. That said, these ladies have constructed a very inexpensive version that seems to work just fine: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpnNkqamfa-di9k (at 8:45).
@JamieBowenSailingPlymouthUK
@JamieBowenSailingPlymouthUK 6 жыл бұрын
That's a really useful tool! Thanks for sharing!
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jamie. I was delighted with its performance the first time out. I'll keep using it, and maybe do an update in a few months. Thanks for watching.
@mortenkalland
@mortenkalland 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Do you still need the docking stick?
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 2 жыл бұрын
My new boat is much, much smaller, and only weighs 3 tonnes. I haven't had much need for the docking stick since changing boats......but I'm not throwing it away either!
@mortenkalland
@mortenkalland 2 жыл бұрын
I am new to sailing and have a Maxi 68. I like your videos. :)
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 2 жыл бұрын
@@mortenkalland You are approaching the size of a Mini! Hope it is a bit more comfortable.
@nathanbenton2051
@nathanbenton2051 Жыл бұрын
nice. when you drive it forward, are you also (at the same time) turning hard to port?
@gideonewers1786
@gideonewers1786 3 жыл бұрын
Or you good get some line put it through some old garden hose and tie a bowline (which give the loop shape drop it directly over the cleat or reach with a boat hook ....cost zip (I already had the warp and already had the old garden hose!) works every time.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that works quite well too --- though you have to be careful in extending the loop, as it might fall off the end of the gaff when reaching for the shore cleat. As you suggest, others swear by this inexpensive method.
@islandlife4141
@islandlife4141 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson, I like this option
@2secondslater
@2secondslater 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why a standard gaff is not good enough to deploy a looped line onto a cleat or bollard?
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 3 жыл бұрын
It is a standard gaff Jake, but you need something to hold the line out on the extended end, while the loop is hanging straight down. Some people use velcro rather than plastic clips to attach the line to the end of the gaff. If you just try to hold the line in place by 'pulling the loop tight against the end of the gaff', half the time the loop will fall into the water as you reach out for the cleat. Been there, done that. :-)
@2secondslater
@2secondslater 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick, I appreciate your reasonable answer and you have me thinking about my methods. I usually just hang the looped end of the rope in the hook of the gaff (hook pointing upward) and drop it over a cleat or bollard or post or what have you at the point you are attaching to by rotating the pole 180 degrees and pulling it out of the loop. It does seem that this contraption can make it easier if you take the time to set it up prior to docking.
@Cacheola
@Cacheola 8 ай бұрын
At least you have cleats. So many docks in my area don't. You have to hop off and wrap your line around the top rail
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've experienced that bull rail system in a number of places. A nightmare for solo sailors..... Fortunately most European ports use cleats/bollards.
@captainjimy1950
@captainjimy1950 4 жыл бұрын
I have looked for a place to buy this "Docking Stick" - West Marine/Defender Industries/Amazon----- where to go to purchase this handy item????
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 4 жыл бұрын
Dockingstick.com says it is distributed by Amazon (which is where I bought mine). I note Amazon US does not have any in stock, but Amazon France has them in stock (quite expensive now). Other sailors have manufactured their own using a piece of hose.....
@SOLDOZER
@SOLDOZER 4 жыл бұрын
Bought mine on Amazon
@seanmulligan1339
@seanmulligan1339 6 жыл бұрын
Mentioned before run you r frrad mooring line outside the stanchions bCk to the cockpit i use a two pronged boathook for the loop its also hand for picking up the loop under a buoy
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
My only concern with that Sean is that in my hurry to move from helm to cockpit to grab the gaff, I would drop the line form the tip. Psychologically, I like the idea of an 'attached' line that can't just fall off at the wrong time. Maybe once my confidence grows, your method will be more appealing to me. For picking up morring balls, I used to try to run to midships, lay on my stomach, and try to pass a line through the eye of a mooring ball. As you can imagine, 50% failure rate. I now use a special-made hook that I attach to a gaff (much like the Docking Stick), and with it I have a 100% success rate. Thanks for watching.
@seanmulligan1339
@seanmulligan1339 6 жыл бұрын
Patrick Laine i would love to have seen that video. You dont see many two pronged boathooks i almost sleep with mine but i can lay a loop on it to moor and pick up the loop for the mooring buoy much more easily , buoys with a ring on top i have the pass the line through gadget but you dont find them up the creek🐳🐳🐳i really enjoy your channel it means we can have a great opportunity to learn from eachother , and this trip such fabulous scenary.
@donaldl.blandjr.6442
@donaldl.blandjr.6442 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting, but do I hear an engine revving? I , unfortunately have no engine , to reverse, so may not be that easy for me?
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
:-) When I first learned the basics of sailing 40+ years ago, my school's fleet of boats had no engines, so you had to leave and enter the slip at the marina under sail power. It led to some very colorful maneuvering at close quarters. :-) (As an aside, surprisingly, we did get very good at that. However, I think it would be very frowned upon now to enter a marina full of expensive yachts while under sail. It's a foolish risk, other than under the instruction of a pro for emergency training purposes.)
@terravarious
@terravarious 3 жыл бұрын
Cool trick, but personally the far bigger lesson I got from this is to spend a day, or afternoon and practice things like this. Pilots do it constantly, to get a drivers licence you have to practice parking, when the hell wouldn't I practice docking my boat. This will definitely be an activity this summer. Pick a quiet weekday and spend a couple hours doing touch and go's and maybe even a few launches and retrievals with the trailer. My GF has zero experience with boats so it would be a good way to also get her comfortable with it.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah -- nothing beats practice. I still do it --- very early in the morning when no one is awake. I go over to the visitor section of our marina and practice backing in, parallel approach, and into and with the wind landings. It's a great way to get to know your boat better, and build confidence. (For every landing I made on the aircraft carrier during my career as a fighter pilot, I'll bet I had 100 done ashore as practice.) :-)
@richardbohlingsr3490
@richardbohlingsr3490 5 жыл бұрын
You seem to prefer to attach the spring line first. Have you tried stern cleat first? That way it doesn't take you that far from the helm.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 5 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of clutter aft --- bimini frame, GPS on the rail, life-ring, davits, aft stays, etc. I have used the stern line first, but the margin for error is much smaller then if I use the spring line (where I can move forward or aft 3 meters easily. If I didn't have the bimini frame (potentially) in the way, I'd probably use the aft line more often.
@davidbowles7422
@davidbowles7422 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick, my docking stick falls off the boat hook pole too easily. It falls off the pole before I can get it to the piling. What diameter line are you using? I have 5/8” and I think it’s too heavy. Also think I need to put something around pole to make it thicker for the Docking Stick to clamp on. Have you done any modifications?
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 4 жыл бұрын
I did not do any modifications David. It clips nicely and firmly onto my standard gaff/boathook. I don't use my regular mooring lines with it. Instead, like you suggest, I use a thinner line, but strong enough for a 'hard' docking, and then switch to my normal mooring lines once safely secured to the pontoon.
@davidbowles7422
@davidbowles7422 4 жыл бұрын
@@patricklaine6958 Hi Patrick, I put some Tourna Grip (made for tennis rackets) around my boat hook and now the docking stick fits snugly and won’t fall off unless I give it a good tug. Perfect! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! I expect you are waiting for the spring weather before doing much sailing? I really enjoy your videos and that you’re a solo sailor. I’m trying to get my ability up to where I can feel like a competent solo sailor.
@Kenneth_McGrew
@Kenneth_McGrew 4 жыл бұрын
it would be great to see more stern in single handed moorings, i assume you can just put it into gear once you have the two stern lines on and sort the bow out.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah --- you don't even need to get two lines over Kenneth. You get one stern line over, and put it in forward gear and can position the bow with the rudder (locking yourself against the finger). I may try to film a few more of these this year.
@tomf3969
@tomf3969 6 жыл бұрын
That is impressive. Which is more difficult...a carrier landing or docking the boat? No bolters with a sailboat!
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 6 жыл бұрын
And this boat doesn't pull g's well at all......I'd get hosed in every dogfight! ;-)
@Chambersdavidjames
@Chambersdavidjames 5 жыл бұрын
I’m curious why you don’t use your bow thruster (I think you have one, anyway)? Pride? Seems it could make docking much easier.
@patricklaine6958
@patricklaine6958 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps David, but the error that many make with a bow thruster is that they get too slow, and think the bow thruster will then get them home. A slight gust then pushes the boat sideways to the finger, and it is very difficult to recover then. I use the bow thruster very, very often on leaving a berth when I have almost no way on and need to get the bow around. On arrival, I find it MUCH easier to keep enough way on so that you do not really need to use the bow thruster. It is nice to have though, and I DO use it from time to time to tweek an arrival. Thanks for commenting.
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