Ep 550: Week 2 Upset Alerts | Big Ten Catching SEC | FSU War Chant Drama | Billy Napier In Trouble?

Josh Pate’s College Football Show Ep 550 features Josh Pate discussing early returns from the Big Ten and the SEC. With early losses by LSU, Texas A&M, and Florida combined with interesting results from USC and Penn State, could we see more competitive balance at the top of the Big Ten and somewhat less depth in the SEC than expected? Where are the biggest upset alert spots across the College Football landscape in week 2? Arkansas vs Oklahoma State is a sneaky week 2 game. Tonight we get the preview and prediction. The Whole New Saturday Tour heads to Ann Arbor as Texas vs Michigan is the game of the week. Is Billy Napier in trouble at Florida if things don’t turn around quickly? What’s happening with the internal drama around FSU? Be sure to let us know what you think, SUBSCRIBE to the channel, and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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[@halarms7617]

Shout out to Cole for sounding better in the airport than most podcast guests from their homes.

[@Hullabaloorah]

Minor nit pick. The A&M App State game was 2022.

[@JohnTwisdale-g4g]

App State was better in 2023 than 2022 also the QB was Chase Brice at the time.

[@TheDiddlingDiddler]

Smart money is on Billy Napier’s ass getting fired before Thanksgiving.

[@chipplylar7006]

Hard to see how he survives.

[@chipplylar7006]

Clemson better not have a pity party.AppvSt will be fired up.I took Tenn. Nico is a STUD.

[@chipplylar7006]

NCSt won 10 games just cpl yrs ago

[@chipplylar7006]

Great show..I just got to get used to it. The show is the BEST

[@chipplylar7006]

KSt will beat Tulane like a drum

[@Ducks4Life91]

Josh started the show petty as hell 😂😂😂😂happy the weather got the game delayed 😂😂😂😂😂

[@mattevans9669]

He has connections that go pretty far up I wouldn’t doubt him

[@Ducks4Life91]

@@mattevans9669 don’t understand the context of your comment who was doubting him😂😂😂

[@mattevans9669]

@@Ducks4Life91 he definitely called someone and had the weather changed your acting like it was just some coincidence

[@Ducks4Life91]

@@mattevans9669 mannnnn go take a nap bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@will67081]

Shameless ask. Going to see the Oct 5th Beavers vs. Rams game. Not unusual by itself but I'm coming from Vincent, Al. I'd appreciate some Quick Trip petrol you're giving away. I'd be glad to tell every Beaver and Rams fan about Josh Pate's show.

[@louisianasportsfan656]

I support it! Enjoy the game

[@SilentAsian72]

Watched New Heights earlier today and was disappointed with how many ad reads have been put in their show but this show has pretty few ads and the ad reads are creative off the cuff and well done which I can appreciate

[@randomidiot6278]

He stopped having academy for a couple of weeks and viewers went mental. It’s amazing how if you’re good at ads people want them.

[@Helmsson1]

@@randomidiot6278No seriously I am significantly more likely to spend my money with a particular business if the advertisement is from a real person speaking like a buddy recommending something to me that I know they’d actually do business with instead of an out of touch corporate display. Josh does an incredible job with this.

[@GoatedAtNFS]

there’s a go fund me for Billy Napier to be fired, $26,000,000 is the set amount. don’t think Florida people won’t do it, there’s a lot of Gator fans compared to the other fans in Florida

[@nathanjohnson1067]

3 Nebraska donors payed off the rest of Scott frost contract to fire him. It’s possible

[@deonbowser1814]

Damnnnnn 😂

[@thomas4898]

Regardless of who is the head coach, you guys have a long, long, long way to go before you can even talk any shit 😂😂😂

[@michaelbeikmann5603]

Al golden at Miami got fired after the fans flew a plane banner around the stadium saying to fire him lol

[@philipbates9648]

How much have they raised? What's the link?

[@XxSgtSkittlesxX]

I loved Cubelic's euphemism 😂

[@ConnorMcLean44]

Checking in on the work commute from Glasgow, Scotland!

[@bryanwilson29]

Academy Sports & Outdoors opening in Beckley WV on Monday. Also, Big Tech vs Pate State is the next big rivalry to watch.

[@tomward2713]

Last night I stopped at a QT on Interstate 65 purely out of appreciation for their sponsorship of the show.

[@coder2100]

He completely skipped Nebraska in his Big 10 vs SEC matchup list. They should be up against Missouri instead of Wisconsin and then every team below should shift down one. those lower matchups should be even closer

[@zoobiwumwum2441]

The point spread Mizzou vs. NE would be bigger than Mizzou (-7).

[@Stevecons0311]

Nebraska hasn’t gone bowling since 2016

[@thpeacemaker]

Nebraska is still a big mystery team I think. People have been predicting they'll take a big step forward every year and this point I think most people just need to see it to believe it

[@stevedotmiller]

Thank you for the rant and for caring about the game and traditions!

[@loganbentley410]

Just my input from first person experience: new NCAA rules are really strict about 1st and 3rd downs this year. I’m in the Million Dollar Band and we’re no longer allowed to play when the opposing team is on 1st or 3rd down. It’s ruining traditions across the nation sadly but thus is the state of college football as a whole at the moment

[@bleachorange]

I am a Clemson fan. FSU is our conference rival. I enjoy the warchant. Its an atmosphere like no other. It makes it all the more wonderful when you win in that kind of environment.

[@DaltonBradleyFilms]

Been watching since 2021, don't think I've ever seen Josh as mad as him discussing FSU's pagentry.

[@devinmengarelli7610]

Are you not doing the shirts this year for the Saturday tour

[@DYates-txag]

Not sure if it changes the calculus much but App St vs A&M was in ‘22, not last year. That one is burned into skull. Thanks Jimbo. Hope you’re enjoying all your hunts…

[@joelh.cooper5276]

Let’s go Pate State! 🇨🇿🇨🇿 tuned in as always!

[@RaymondHarton]

Go Irish 🍀 ☘️ 🍀

[@yulan586]

Dublin Ireland says hello

[@patrickthorn653]

I love that you guys love real football.

[@russellglover6887]

I love that you guys love real football.

[@jejbsh2191]

Florida state says suck it

[@MarkyMark1221]

Making a late kick sign for gameday tomorrow morning, any suggestions?

[@JoshPateCFB]

Not Late Kick anymore

[@MarkyMark1221]

@@JoshPateCFB*Pate state sign* and I think I have my idea now 🫡

[@zoobiwumwum2441]

@@JoshPateCFBIt's now called Josh Pate's Sassy College Football Show

[@dannyfowler7055]

Headed home from the Georgia Safely Conference in Savannah yesterday…stopped for gas at the QT (Metter or Dublin, GA on I-16), NO GAS! Every single pump had a bag over the nozzle! WTH?

[@osukufan2]

57:27 it’s worth noting that Bowman was sharing reps with 2 other QBs the first 3 games of the season. So yes he had a number of interceptions but a number of those came off the receivers hands. He eventually got his timing down against KSU and arguably was the reason they beat OU.

[@The_progrum66]

Hillsboro Oregon checking in. GODUCKS!

[@thomas4898]

@@The_progrum66 you’re gay

[@thomas4898]

Yep - the average Oregon fan can’t even spell 😂😂😂😂😂

[@KornPop96]

​@@thomas4898they can't spell, but they can get that good fentanyl. 😂

[@The_progrum66]

@@thomas4898 haterz gonna hate 🤷‍♂️

[@Tom-m8z]

Tomahawk chop nixed to appease people offended on behalf of the Seminole Natiin who approves of and supports FSUs traditions. Thank goodness we have people to be offended on behalf of others.

[@matthewjones4139]

Shout out to Meridianville, AL. Born and raised

[@aircooledjoe1657]

Driving up to Tuscaloosa this weekend! Go Bulls!

[@keldur16]

As an fsu alum if the warchant isn’t music to your ears I don’t want you on the field. I don’t care how good you are.

[@louisianasportsfan656]

“Music” is an interesting way to describe a mindless crowd 80k+ strong moving their arm up and down robotically

[@johnjohnson1923]

@@louisianasportsfan656sounds like someone who hates football

[@keldur16]

@@louisianasportsfan656 that’s not the warchant genius. That’s called the tomahawk chop. But I understand. I’d hate it just like you if everytime I saw it my favorite team lost😂🫵. Warchant is literally music. That Louisiana “education” is failing you…

[@IRightwiggle]

I can only imagine how insufferable some of those administrator types are!

[@shanekeenaNYC]

I walked into the occupational licensing offices in Tallahassee to submit to update my real estate license. No joke, I had to place a phone call to my boss and take time out of his day because the guy at the window couldn't understand that I was simply asking him to process the form. Part of being in the state capitol is good, more political connections and stuff in that vein is good, but on the flip side, you have a million bureaucrats like that who haven't the interpersonal skills or territorial knowledge.

[@mobiusstorm9768]

Alright Josh, put the model away. At 24:10 you guys had a graphic showing teams with odds of winning a national championship +6000 or better. What team outside of that list do you believe (again, no model and I'll add no Vegas) has the best chance of making it to the final game, and which team outside of that list do you *want* to see in the national title game?

[@jparker289]

Let's go I-Josh you rock!

[@jonherr8808]

Nebraska not considered in the top 7 of the Big 10??

[@johnlee7085]

I think you are mistaken about the amount of new pieces for KU. The retuning production number is not as high as it was last year, but a big chunk of that is Jalon Daniels being hurt most of last year. He’s not returning production statistically, but is a big improvement on the field. Other than that there’s only 3 new starters on O and they’re being replaced by 4*&5* recruits with 3 years of experience in the B2. It’s not quite as good on defense but still only replacing 4 starters. Again one of those is being replaced by a group of 4* recruits. Kansas by 7 or more.

[@willmiddleton9199]

I just gotta say I LOVE Cole Cubelic ! He is THE man ! I think he does the very best analysis of the SEC of anyone out there, just sayin'

[@OnlyNikeFans]

JOSH!! MAKE YOUR WAY TO EUGENE FOR BOISE vs OREGON 7pm PT!!! 2 games in one day!!

[@scottd1903]

The B10 is deeper than its been in probably 25+ years. Probably the last time there were 6+ teams that had a legitimate shot at winning the conference was in the 90s

[@stormwarning522]

Hey Josh as a Miami Hurricanes fan am loving my team & am loving what's going on in Tallahassee can you imagine the madness if they loose to Memphis 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@atlmiamifan]

Real good chance too. Gonna be awesome

[@zachbrewer4168]

Western Oklahoma checking in

[@JwadeProductions7]

Games aren't played on paper...unless when trying to figure out the conference streagth then we will throw out all on field results and play the games on paper...josh..josh..josh

[@jasonarreguin5315]

Right?😂

[@ThatSECPodcast]

Keep the show free - Subscribe to the channel! - The Cousins from That SEC Podcast

[@Dawgbite22]

My other favorite podcast, and my favorite cousins!!

[@rotcoke652]

I liked hearing Cole's thoughts on what he saw from Bama. The speed at linebacker is what stood out to me, but I wanted to hear your thoughts on that game too Josh. Alabama was downright dominant to a level I haven't seen in a few years. WKU gained 8 yards on their last 22 plays, 7 straight 3 and outs. Yards per play difference was 9.23 vs 2.16. There were a lot of blowouts, but I don't think anyone deconstructed their opponent the way Bama did.

[@dustindavis5397]

I’d argue Georgias destruction of Clemson (once they adjusted to their zone D and got the run game going) was equally as impressive but not as dominant. Then again, what else do we expect from these two programs 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@johnlee7085]

A conference by conference pairing, 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, … might be far fetched, or it is college basketball. Definitely a strength of CBB.

[@calebbforballin]

This is exactly what I said would happen at FSU after the snub as with these new conference set ups. That snub basically screwed FSU for the long term on recruiting because now every player knows that going to FSU Clemson or Miami or any team from any conference that isn’t the SEC or the big 10 have a significantly lower chance of getting to play on a national level regardless of how good they played or how well their team does in the regular season. That snub was most definitely a message to players “go to SEC or Big 10 teams cause that’s what we’re selling now”. Teams like FSU and Miami, and more recently Clemson, that have a historical historically been able to take on the titans and win regularly now don’t have the ability to draw talent from high school like they did in the past. Now a team like Ole miss, Arkansas, or South Carolina look more attractive because they will get a spot that as a 10-2 over a 10-2 FSU, Clemson or Miami regardless of how dominant they were in most of the season. That snub should piss off every fan from any conference because it will shape perception for the foreseeable future.

[@montanahammack318]

Not an fsu fan at all, but I hate they aren’t doing the war chant!

[@John-qk3qi]

I'm not familiar with Florida state's war chant. That sounds very similar to when Scott Frost started cycling through different music for Nebraska's tunnel walk.

[@bferg_au4788]

Cole Cubelic in Dallas felt familiar. American does that every flight, and the same to me last week in Dallas. Sorry buddy. War Eagle

[@jodyweathermanhhs2695]

great show

[@dawsonnance4407]

The hypothetical matchup doesn’t mean much, you can say who the favorites are but that doesn’t matter. You play the games for a reason right Josh.

[@patrickthorn653]

Clemson and Florida State aren't helping the SEC at all, at least in terms of their image. Both in the same region, and I always have to remind myself that they're not in the SEC. I'm guessing I'm not alone in that.

[@dustindavis5397]

Nah that’s mostly just u lol

[@jdtheguitartist]

Yeah.. that’s just you.

[@patrickthorn653]

.... there's gotta be at least one person in China something

[@johnlee7085]

It would be interesting to see how the Big12 and acc compare for third.

[@tjcloar1913]

The Kentucky line is down to -8.5

[@landonduke6464]

Change the B10-SEC matchup thing by an extra seed. Run B10#1 vs. SEC#2 and so on.

[@matthewanderson5163]

I’m ready for Arkansas to prove everyone wrong

[@Jbsutt]

College football drama is the best. Thays why i love being an AU fan so much. Also ....im not feelin Tennessee this week. I think State wins, covers, and beats the Vols by 2 tds. Itd be different if they were at Neyland.

[@andrewtowne2484]

Pokes with a statement win on Saturday. Book it

[@landongest8364]

Idk if it changes anything but the app state w against a&m was in 2022

[@ngc5195]

I like the FSU war chant. But they way overdo it and it gets tiresome and annoying over the course of the game

[@johnhaygood7990]

That’s the point of it. Been going to games since before I could walk and it never gets old watching people complain in the 4th quarter.

[@j_bird2560]

2 for 6 on the picks is not stellar, but it was a weird week. Big Bounce back coming this weekend.

[@thomas4898]

ND is better than Penn State (who beat an WVU unranked team), Miami (who beat a hapless unranked Florida team) and Oregon who couldn’t pour piss out of a boot with directions on the heel against a FCS opponent in Idaho.

[@mntmedic]

I think the gap is going to lessen and lesson because of NIL and I believe The transfer portal is making all the teams more competitive because you have quality players on every team so things are going to get tighter as the years go by I believe which is a good thing.

[@jasonarreguin5315]

All of these numbers that were said about margin for victory for week one has been completely off. example UF versus Miami

[@louisianasportsfan656]

Well, when you cherry pick games like that of course you’ll believe that. Casual

[@jasonarreguin5315]

@@louisianasportsfan656not just that game bud… that was an example, there was like 6 more 😂💀

[@scottsingleton8837]

Well said

[@DavidCleveland-m1g]

Your first mistake..... American Airlines.😂 sorry brother they su#*

[@ChristianDLucas]

Josh saving his favorite team for last. Lol

[@logancline7805]

I think it’s clear that Georgia has toughest schedule in country, not florida

[@namannroberts2116]

X- Man with the TD …. Hook’em

[@kevinvruggink4908]

Think we see the SEC flex their muscles this weekend. Texas and Tennessee win by 20 or more

[@metalwristguy3185]

I can't believe Napier thought UF was good enough for that schedule. Guy must be delusional. I hate the gators, but I'm legit worried about the health and safety of those kids by the end of the season.

[@chacaabbaylee768]

Even though they are way up this year(it seems), it will be the Tennessee loss that gets Napier canned. It's like UT losing to Kentucky.

[@user-vq8fq1ty7c]

PREACH IT, JOSH. That FSU Warchant thing is a TRAVESTY and the poster child for just how little these modern athletic directors, who have no ties to the schools that employ them, care for their school's traditions or unique gameday atmospheres. Many of them probably even hate all that messy traditional stuff. Can't insert ad buys while the band is playing, am I right? They've been strangling the Pride of the Southland Marching Band at Tennessee for years too. Every kickoff, they play "Joker and the Thief." Not Rocky Top. Not anything related to the school. Just crappy canned music from a stupid playlist. Opposing players used to talk about how they'd leave Neyland hearing Rocky Top in their nightmares for weeks after. Not anymore. They don't even play Rocky Top half the time anymore. Now they play Welcome to the Jungle. HOW TENNESSEE IS THAT? I hate it. LOOK WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO OUR COLLEGE FOOTBALL, JOSH.

[@aIIan_p]

as a diehard canes fan and natural born “warchant” hater i agree. some of my best and worst football memories were to the tune of that god awful warchant 😂

[@RadicallyOptimistic]

FSU fans use the word “travesty” so much that it has lost meaning

[@user-vq8fq1ty7c]

@@RadicallyOptimistic Maybe you should try telling some FSU fans that.

[@ezrad3]

Went and watched Baker and Oklahoma play at Neyland and that is still my favorite game environment. Was so spoiled that when we went to Colombus two years later I was unbelievably disappointed. I became a fan of rocky top after that game and the first 3 quarters it rivaled Boomer Sooner in frequency lol. And that’s saying something.

[@nickworks2341]

Josh love the show. Thanks for talking about Arkansas. Woo Pig Sooie. OSU is good. But I’m hoping Arkansas can win this. Mike Gundy teams have lost a game or two they should have won especially early in the season. We will see.

[@lawrencematthes8948]

I been a big 10 boy all my life. No way they have passed the SEC. I do believe it hasn't been the difference gap that some people, especially in the south, have always believed it to be. It varies from year to year. The list of top 10 teams matching up and point spreads, I would have only took Ohio St plus the points and USC. But I would take Georgia to win the game. Oregon would be a toss to me. The rest I would go with the SEC. Now let's take these same matchups and compare them over 20 years. Or 50 years. In those matchups it would be more competitive. In that scenario, I would take Ohio St over Georgia. Michigan over Ole Miss. USC over Tennessee. Washington over A&M. Wisconsin and Missouri is close, but I'll say Wisconsin by a whisker. Penn St takes a tough loss matching up with Bama. Everyone does. What I love about the SEC fans is their loyalty. People in Tennessee will think they are historically better than USC. Mississippi fans think the same compared to Michigan. Georgia could have a legitimate argument, but they have had many perks and valleys. Recent history has them on a peek they have never had before. But they would lose their case on an historical basis. What really sets the SEC apart is even A&M, Arkansas, South Carolina ECT all think like Tennessee and Mississippi. That they are powerhouse football schools who aren't what they think they are. The big 10, for the most part, are more self aware. The Iowa's, Illinois-eye😊, Minnesotas,, Michigan St all understand their place in the food chain. Interesting that two traditional schools like Nebraska and Florida didn't even make the list. Just my opinion

[@TaiNguyen-tq8iu]

Cole cubelic said it’s rare for a p4 player to go down to a g5….. DJ U should’ve gone to a g5 the way he’s playing. Ego gets in the way with no talent.

[@mattevans9669]

I only fill up at quick trip now

[@dougeaves472]

100% correct

[@tetoffense7659]

The real question is if Stallions sold Tennessee's signs again.

[@mige3s]

As a 🙌🏾 fan, I hate FSU I hate the chant. That being said taking the chant away is beyond stupid. It’s iconic for a reason

[@Matt_C130]

FSU warchant probably catching the same hate that the Braves did with the chop. So glad the Braves did an about face on removing the chop after a few games & the fanbase saying they were going to do it anyways.

[@johnlee7085]

I’m surprised academia hasn’t woked the mascots into oblivion the way it has in other sports.

[@JoshJacobs-dj1yp]

Florida needs to fire Billy Napier asap. Should've been done already don't know why they haven't already. They still might not after this season because Florida has a hard schedule but thats an excuse for him to keep his job. Hes not good at all and they wont take a step forward as a program with him there

[@TheDiddlingDiddler]

@@JoshJacobs-dj1yp Suburban Meyer to the rescue.

[@haroldfarquad6886]

Only way he should keep his job is if Lagway is a superstar and they go like 9-3 with him as starter for two more years.

[@alpacain1075]

Nah give him at least 5 more years. We can’t really know right now

[@brianroyster7510]

​@@alpacain1075Is that the snark of an UGA fan I'm smelling?

[@alpacain1075]

@@brianroyster7510 I’d rather be dead. But I would root for Georgia over fLorida

[@royoldaker700]

I feel like if Florida gets the right coach, it's gonna be 2005 all over again...That's a VERY desirable place for players and the only reason they're not among the elite is coaching...They get an up n coming guy who can recruit, it'll be Urban Meyer 2.0...

[@Adrastos2834]

Ok. I love Pate state. I think he is as unbiased as you can be. SEC bias is more what is going to get me clicks. I think Josh will voice his opinion if he thinks an SEC team is going to struggle. SEC is a little ahead of the B1G. Makes sense. But! Cubelic is awful. He would pick vandy to keep it within 7 with oregon or Ohio St. Its is the only time i refuse to watch the show. Thanks for the content though. Thoroughly enjoy it. Just would rather bath in RAT POISON. Then listen to Cubelic. Looking forward to sunday. Have a great weekend.

[@polyxavier]

The SEC may be better. But didnt LSU and Texas A&M just lose as favorites, one to a Big 10 team? I think the SEC is the best conference but there is bias that helps them. Ha Alabama been great? Yes!! But they got into rhe national championship game when they didn't even win their conference. No one else benefits like that. They won the championship that season but as a result of bias putting them in position to do do. Way back when Florida won their first in the 2000s, they had a worse loss than USC but got the nod over them. The best conference YES. But extra chances helped a bit and they took advantage of them.

[@jeffward3905]

Josh being wrong on App State beating A&M in 2022 not 2023 on two separate occasions

[@Isaiah88p]

ND 14- NIU 16…… this is what people mean when they say ND is over rated. To which you normal say, no they are rated where they are supposed to be. YES! ND is always over rated.

[@willmeyer9497]

Watching college football turn into a two conference only system is a sad decline to watch

[@m1ke1991]

Auburn vs Cal??

[@PhysixPanda]

Lol Oklahoma can’t expose Tennessee????😂

[@SamuelMiller-qf7qi]

Austin Bergstrom international airport. Just a little help cuz I know you’ll be back in that airport at least one more time this year but many l more over the next several years watching sark kick some ass

[@prman9984]

Doesn't matter how many games the sec loses. They're still "better".

[@mitchell15ars]

App state won in 22 not 23

[@RadicallyOptimistic]

That A&M team was of the most overrated teams in college football history. Somehow LSU are such bums that they actually lost to them. We need a better method for sending teams to the SEC Championship because it certainly should’ve been Bama not LSU

[@KornPop96]

Tennessee is only a 9.5 favorite? Better bet the farm on that! Tennessee winning by 20+!

[@turkeyslammer9549]

Thanks for leading off w the Vols I don’t even need to watch the rest of the show

[@louisianasportsfan656]

🫤 but you should…

[@tylerbelcher111]

Lets Gooo DAWGS!

[@taylorgillespie2298]

I guess I’m the only person in the U.S. not on the Ollie Gordon hype train?

[@landonduke6464]

Texas might not play a cooler game the rest of the season

[@HoodyJuancho]

The FSU chant has always been played after a sack/tfl Josh that’s why they don’t even play it they just suck right now

[@waynehunter8928]

Good GRIEF! As I thoguht, games are as long or longer and it's due to the fact that there is now a two minute warning, timeouts galore, and commercials than can't be counted without a calculator. Less playing - more advertising. This is not what I want to watch every damn Saturday. They have ruined college football.

[@WCworkhorse]

You're assuming it was an admin that decided to stop doing the Warchant on 3rd down. What if it was Mike Norvell? Still gonna fire him? Bet not. Hypocrite!