EP 7 | Substance Abuse | Ft Joeboy | Zero Conditions Podcast

Joeboy joins the incredible crew of the Zero Conditions Podcast for an amazing conversation that touches on the early days of his successful career, his recently concluded UK tour, family values and Burna Boy's comments on Afrobeats not having substance.
Timestamps
00:00 - intro
11:25 - Enjoying the process
12:15 - Success doesn’t cure all the problem
13:18 - ‘Beginning’ was not supposed to drop
14:43 - There’s another devil for every level
17:40 - why I didn’t have a lot of collaborations back then
20:39 - Family
20:12 - when I realized I’ve blown
22:48 - I don’t like bringing girls to the house
25:58 - My plans after music
27:31 - Contour
29:13 - Me and Ghanian artistes are cool
32:48 - artistes I’m currently feeling
35:27 - Do you watch BBNaija?
36:11 - What I do to relax
37:35 - How I keep up with family
42:45 - Stormzy conversation
43:16 - It’s hard for me to forgive
45:03 - Horoscope
47:05 - Time and Season
48:19 - Is spirituality and religion overrated?
50:46 - The theory behind star signs
51:54 - Jazz, Science and Tech
57:03 - conversation on parenthood
59:55 - The “substance” conversation
1:13:27 - Joeboy take on ‘substance’
1:16:05 - Afrobeats is not conscious
1:20:49 - Spyro and the Shallipopi interview
1:22:30 - Sip (alcohol) is a sad song
1:38:13 - Imperialist definition of ‘great’ music

[@dejibodunwa7357]

I came here for the “substance” convo and Motolani killed it. ❤

[@theBandana]

Joeboy is the goat❤❤❤

[@KoikiMayowa]

When Wiz lost the grammy to Angelique Kidjo, many Nigerians said rightly, he didn't deserve it because Angelique sang about endsars and African struggles and Wiz didn't. My response to those people on Twitter then was, creators cannot be forced to speak about a specific theme, rather, your experiences and realities. Art can be about anything. Heck, a late popular Turkish poet painted a vivid picture with words about fellatio otherwise known as blowjob. People talked, but the guy won awards for it. It is art (in this case, written); your ability to connect, create an experience using words. People should get education.

[@danieltabowei772]

You guys killed the substance thingy. Loved the humor amidst the solemnity of the discourse. Shoutouts to Joeboy for being real.🧡

[@mikajofficial3198]

Mhennn...it was hot I couldn't watch on my seat, I had to stand up through the conversation on the substance thingy

[@fun-gr4fx]

From day one I heard burna..omo I was in love with his music..his delivery..I literally told someone then that this guy would go far....but honestly I deleted all his music from my playlist and I stop been a fan the day h said afro beat has no substance.. really a leader u used???? No matter who u become now baba na we for naija love u and push u first o..na we call u best first oo... before u go where ever u are..na so e say he can do without Nigeria abi wat sef...nah that bad man..u crash yan man

[@felixenemuo]

Una don make Excel forget his "welcome back to the show"😂😂

[@babatundelawal8096]

The classic Motolani returned on this podcast. Long time, no see lol😅

[@ebenedionwe1373]

This is so chaotic😂😂😂 love it!

[@ekenesamuel9004]

Many of us have been on Motolani waiting list since the substance was spilled by the dealer 😂😂😂

[@iyaremeyo]

Please ask Melody how many politically-charged songs Beyonce has dropped. Another thing Melody should remember is that Burna’s greatest hits aren’t politically charged-songs neither do they have “substance.” People in diaspora mostly sing rubbish when singing Burna’s greatest hits because they don’t understand the lyrics (he sang them mostly in pidgin fgs ) and can’t tell if it has “substance” but it connects. Melody, if it connects then it has substance. Period!

[@Like-oe1cy]

Exactly. “On The Low” sounds like a typical Wizkid song but because it’s Burna, it’s lyrical 😂

[@driziiD]

"enter jungle with this thing to win grammy" 😂😂😂

[@lanrebiyi]

The ending of this podcast was chaotic 😂😂😂

[@solomoncourage4800]

At the ending part of this show that girl was actually saying rubbish

[@taiwofemi3981]

I love how melody intentionally plays devils advocate to balance the conversation but yoooo playing devil's advocate when there's no hell fire😂😂😂 My Goddddd Excel!!

[@kingsleyobot3295]

I too love beginning n contour❤ I play it everyday

[@loutee6690]

Joeboy politely staying out of the crossfire lol

[@PrinOsam]

Too cool podcast

[@dannysims1632]

The last 20mins is so enjoyable 😂😂 motolani abeg 😂

[@thatboyberi]

Come I think say na only TV una dey. Thank God I finally looked on KZbin

[@Your_djchinnex]

The end part na problem 🔥🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂😂

[@santusunuovoraye6886]

U guys were fun to watch 😂. With alot of enlightenment too. I think Melody shld listen to Motolani and Excel more. Well done 👍

[@BeatzByArpeggio]

Ou guys are amazing bo cap

[@Iamkayceebrown]

Hell yeah. Been waiting for this

[@ikennauchendu7624]

Excel point on the substance issue was on point

[@lgfdsfg]

I love this conversation with my heart and soul😢❤❤❤

[@FaithWits]

Loved this! Motolani Alake has my respect for dayssss...

[@duzzyspiritual1443]

Plaquessss plaquesss plaquesssss😢😂

[@yoobon5670]

Unfortunately many most times donot get it that majority of Afrobeats songs are made like "Bitter Pills coated with SweetVibes" but can easily and quickly feel the "SweetVibes".

[@lotustv04]

This is the best episode I've watched and I just absolutely love it 😂❤️

[@thapartyturner]

i really love this episode 😂😂😂😂

[@era_con9]

What burna boy said in the interview is what we call a perfect "back stabbing" with zero remorse of what he did that's a crazy shit right there💯

[@user-qs5gd6tb5z]

My joeboy ❤️❤️

[@timothyonekutu1505]

Spyro call Melody o ! 😂 Epic episode. Joeboy is soo grounded! Bigups to him!

[@joshuaesan6211]

This is to officially welcome Motolani to the Pod in Excel's voice.

[@DAMMYPRINCE]

joeboy is such a great guy and a proper popstar. you can easily tell

[@johncent6384]

Good stuff 😂

[@davidleslieomoniyi4871]

BURNA BOy 4k up big time

[@michaelkemas]

walai, but i no too surprise cos he is a sellout

[@adeniyigeorge7104]

This episode is going to be talked about by these guys for years .

[@enejeemmanuel2644]

😂 "You're Playing Devil's advocate, when there's no Hell fire" - Excel Joab.

[@pgbison2637]

Excel is a pastor in this episode

[@mrwujie9479]

I'm a huge Burna Fan but Motolani is spot on 💯

[@taiwothomas23]

Lol. The violence was too much for Joeboy.

[@folaitabiyi7327]

nice convo

[@SixtusMaximus]

Melody needs a voice on this pod. She doesn't need to be playing catch up.

[@mathiasagbo8117]

Tolani and melody like to argue and never admit when they realize they’re wrong lol

[@adeniyigeorge7104]

Melody talk Yoruba ohhhh😂😂😂 " ewo lariwo!!" I want that printed on a t shirt .

[@chidoprince]

Joey!!🎉❤

[@ayomideajayi4469]

Excel with the bible verses. Keep it up bro. Birthday maté Joeboy, we May 21st kids are too special, shine on bro ✨

[@ekenesamuel9004]

1:31:26 I laughed real hard here 😂😂😂

[@felixenemuo]

Melody is sweating under AC. After una drag am for here finish, we go do our own for Twitter 😅

[@MrAde-jy3uu]

This gyal made sure she did her hair and everything for Joeboy.😂😂😂 awww see crush. “I like your jeans!” Lolz

[@cychoic]

Joe boy from bajulaye foursquare days

[@taiwofemi3981]

Omo conversation si hot my niggas be sweating under AC 😂😂

[@era_con9]

My 12 yrs old sis asked me a question on Friday when I was watching the pod on tv, she said why is this man always angry..? "motolani" I told her na burna boy cus am nd e deserve to collect normal normal😂

[@soughtoutmediasoughtoutmed4236]

Nice podcast.. Melody needs to reduce her "Shut Up" to this guys. Make she respect those men.

[@solomoncourage4800]

Abeg make una collect mic for that girl

[@atuhgeorgekenechukwu2159]

Wahala

[@d4r423]

Ya'll are so on point about the substance conversation, the lady needs to shut up respectfully fr, she needs to stop acting like a groupie

[@ayomideajayi4469]

God bless 🙌🏽

[@OlisaemekaN]

I like Excel 😂

[@coreladdict]

Did you later find the name of the song at 2:18

[@kealdytv]

I concur with Tolani's sentiment. The homeboy lacks the intellectual capacity to engage in such a discussion. Hollywood often portrays America in a positive light, despite the fact that it falls short of those ideals. They seldom depict stories of individuals enduring homelessness and the struggles faced by the less fortunate on the grand screen. The emphasis seems to be more on presenting themselves as a paradise rather than acknowledging the harsh realities that exist.

[@MrAde-jy3uu]

Even tho I’m a huge Burna fan, I actually feel what Tolani is saying. I wish for Tolani and Burna to have a face to face conversation and start some healing.

[@felixenemuo]

Unless them stop am from smoking 2 weeks before or na fight go end that "face to face"😂😂 Burna wey disrespect him grandpapa and mama for camera.

[@ayomideajayi4469]

Do you get. Ego won't allow him listen. I don't see that conversation happening

[@thatboyberi]

🤣🤣🤣🤣fam said make them heal

[@olanrewajuoluwaseye8444]

Since when burna boy have be using his song to talk to the government what does it change

[@promiseibeabuchi6537]

😂😂😂😂

[@TGodMona]

The guy on orange is just a talkative....

[@felainversace155]

Joeboy was so tired of the substance chapter lol

[@iyaremeyo]

Who says “substance” must be politically-charged songs? I understand that Melody wants it to be a conversation, but it is a nuanced one like Tolani said and it shouldn’t be dumbed down to a simpleton-like summary like Burna said on that Apple Music interview. It has to be contextualized. At the end of the day, “substance” is subjective. What you consider substance, I may not give two fucks about. The white people streaming Burna’s songs enmasse, do they give two fucks about the politics in Nigeria? No. But they like them because the songs are properly marketed and they connect with the songs.

[@atandadavid5554]

lmaaoo, why are y'all bullying this babe.

[@ayomideajayi4469]

Her points Dey head aching 😭

[@godwinbernard9568]

Plaques 😂

[@MrAde-jy3uu]

Moving forward, Burna should not do any interviews unless his mommy is there with him😂😂

[@harobillionboy]

1:05:52 ma nigga jst beefing wizzy that all I can say

[@chukafranciis3419]

Art doesnt have a score card...

[@scapegoat4th]

Wombolization😂

[@kealdytv]

Why does she want to box artiste to create only what she thinks is right? 😂😂😂Everybody get different realities, if you can't relate to what they create then move on.

[@Dilireignest_]

Why she dey defend burna's bad statement

[@emmkola]

because she has a good point

[@Dilireignest_]

The girl dey defend rubbish

[@emmkola]

she dey speak facts but your empty head no fit carry am

[@ayomideajayi4469]

God bless you 😂

[@adaobiezubelu7885]

But doesn’t it matter if they write or not ? Most of the A-list Artists/superstars in the world don’t write their songs . Most songs over the world doesn’t have substance!!! What’s the meaning of “wap” by cardiB? A lot of modern Artists in USA doesn’t even have meaningful lyrics. So, melody should come with facts and not just talk because she wants to have an opinion.

[@Musicbender1]

We should first of all define substance, i don’t think substance is all about dope poetic lyrics, the meaning of substance can’t be tied down to a particular set of style or themes. I mean some music don’t even have lyrics and it still connects to people and they enjoy it and feel something. Will you say those kind of music don’t have any substance? Music is too broad for substance to have a definitive meaning. If you wanna sing about politics and suffering, sing.. doesn’t make someone singing about women have less substance, y’all are simply singing about different things and have different form of substance. By the way, it’s easy to start chaos 😂

[@fun-gr4fx]

Sorry oo..who this young lady please...madam make people share der opinion na..dem go dey talk u go just say wetin!! And cut dem off..no vex o...we talk about it does it mean we should say it outside...ur dey discuss ur family issues for public??kai na young madam

[@mathiasagbo8117]

The substance talk make me tire, like it or not there’s point to burna’s opinion that’s it hursts, he isn’t supposed to say that but he did because he doesn’t care, you too shouldn’t care enough to talk about him

[@fun-gr4fx]

And time a gen z start conversation with I feel like.. just no the next statement is total rubbish

[@sikirudemola]

e be like melody dey yuck odogwu

[@scapegoat4th]

😂😂 lyrical Mandela. Ma pa mi na

[@davidleslieomoniyi4871]

BURNA BOy is calling himself black Jesus... So e dy always see himself as God 😂😂😂 E 4get sa na the afrobeat build him and is family. Dad mom and sister Don eat d hand dat fide u

[@tobswave8199]

You better go and work on your English 😂

[@mathiasagbo8117]

lol tolani should learn to control his emotions lol, Joe boy is there for an interview, and you guys are taking time talking about burna that doesn’t give a guck

[@diamonddiamond2024]

The level of arrogance shown by the guy in red motolani is so embarrassing, n low down! U did not consider the guest! He woke up, hoping when he comes back, the topic would’ve changed, n ur voice lowered, n u didn’t! Why yelling like he’s the one u need to confront over ur concerns? Seems like the scripture read by Excel set u off n them entity’s in you showed itself!! May JESUS CHRIST COVER US WITH HIS BLOOD CUZ u pepo are agents!! Thank goodness JOEBOY did not fall for that topic! Go n face who u wanna stop using profanity & loudness! Some pepo can’t see what’s happening n it’s scary!

[@Dan_Kore]

I was literally waiting for this episode. Shoutout to Motolani 🫡