ep020 Kyosho builds drive me CRAZY! Kyosho Optima Mid Build

Let's find out why Kyosho builds sometimes drive me crazy as I go through my Kyosho Optima Mid build.
Previous Videos I mention here:
Fantom II Build: • ep008 Building the Kyo...
The Best Way to Apply Decals: • ep010 The BEST Way to ...
LC Racing EMB 1HK Pro Build: • ep019 Building A (Li...
Optima Mid Kit: www.michaelsrc...
eBay listings for Performa Racing P1 120A ESC: www.ebay.com/s...
JX Servo PDI-6208MG: www.amazon.com...
Edit: @user-ne1px8gz9z replied below telling me about the Koswork ESC plate especially for the Mid. I found it here: www.amainhobbi...

[@RCRetro]

Tamiya directions are top notch. I agree and love how they put all the parts on the side as well as scale images of the screws and washers. The first time I put a Kyosho together, I believe an Ultima rerelease, I felt just like you. Besides the Optima Mid being a beautiful buggy, the overall quality of the parts/materials is way better than Tamiya. I love mine and the way it drives. I have the Optima Mid 87 Worlds Prototype on pre-order and am really looking forward to building that one. Gav from RCkicks (comment below) makes a good point, try building a ProCat rerelease. After that, you won't mind an Optima Mid LOL... Regardless, great channel. Videos are well done and informative. Great work.

[@quietrc]

Agree that the plastics, especially, are better than Tamiya. Both you and Gav have no regard for my wallet! But, neither do I. Love your channel!

[@RCRetro]

@@quietrc Glad you enjoy the channel. You have some great content and a nice way of presenting the info in the video.

[@Glocktologist]

I liked at the Frasier reference intro already!

[@JoyceGreens]

Dude I just gotta say your presentation and energy has grown big time on this channel! I was watching your older video on painting, and they were great for knowledge but less fun and enjoyable. You can really see your confidence growing in your videos, good on you man! I just got back into RC after a 10 year hiatus because my son loves racing and all things cars, so this weekend we're painting our first livery for a traxxis slash we picked up. Keep doing your thing man, I for one appreciate the knowledge you're sharing!

[@quietrc]

Really appreciate the kind words. I certainly feel I'm getting better. Or at least I'm getting better at editing around my mistakes!

[@laserbeam1620]

Good video. The Mid is such a solid rc car! Kyosho definitely expects you to be handy in order to build these lol. Subscribed!

[@quietrc]

Thanks for the sub!

[@generalzod9763]

You forgot to sniff the rubber tires! My favorite part of the building process!

[@project-mk-ultra]

I've only built Team Associated and Tekno kits so far, but they got the features that you mentioned in this video. Quite easy to follow and very enjoyable experience overall.

[@quietrc]

AE are definitely quality builds!

[@RCKickschannel]

I think it's time to try a Schumacher Racing Cat XLS or Pro Cat ;)

[@quietrc]

The Mi8 I have is one of the best builds I have done. So, something else from them would be a good time, I think. However, I've always thought my Mi8 was pretty fragile. I break something in the suspension every time I go out... Couldn't be my driving, right!?

[@rccarloverluxembourg718]

@@quietrc Try a Schumacher Axis 1 or 2 or the "new old" front 1:10 TC which looks so retro with same parts as my SST 99 pro's :-)

[@John-yf8qh]

@QuietRC Sorry to butt in old bean, but Gavin was his usual self in the above comment, trying to be clever (he’s so far away from that, that he’s got no pint of reference and as such, cannot gauge how much of a dumpling hole he is). I don’t like speaking ill of others, it’s just he’s the type of person that would publicly (and privately) make fun of disabled people if he thought he could get away with it. He’s like a wasp at a picnic. Anyway, to dunces like him, Schumacher cars are terribly difficult to build (they’re not that bad really, but he’s a child forever and a perennial beginner). I’d definitely suggest another though if you enjoyed building the previous one. Though as you point out, they are indeed very fragile beasts. If you want something REALLY fragile, a bit miserable but cheap, retro and FAST, have a look at importing a Mardave Cobra. Very easy to build but fairly weak throughout. At least Scums her are reasonably well-supported throughout the Western (and possibly even some Eastern) world. Anyway, keep up the good work, apologies again for bagging one of your colleagues publicly. I mean him no real harm, he just needs to attend a few lessons in how to be an adult - see, he brings out the worst and most base Angie of my very limited character… :) :)

[@jockmason5922]

​@@quietrc You wouldn't have liked the build manual for the original cat CLS from the 80s it was loads of writing and black and white photos. They gave you a build VHS tape. If you had a VCR we didn't 🤣🤣😱

[@Glocktologist]

I’ve built a Kyosho Turbo Scorpion and a bunch of other RC kits before but never a Tamiya. I have an M07 chassis with a CR-X body waiting to be built, the kit box is still sealed. I’m very much looking forward to the experience now since I never really noticed if the manuals were difficult to follow. Will it feel so much easier or is the kit going to go together like any other? Time will tell. It’s interesting to hear other takes on the same manuals we use since it highlights how differently we perceive things.

[@jonthomas8487]

I actually like the Kyosho build process better as it’s usually a bag per step. Many Tamiya builds pull from multiple bags per step which usually has you needing cups to put the parts in. Some Tamiya kits are per bag process but you never know what you’ll get

[@quietrc]

Yeah, agree with this. A small parts tray with multiple sections has really upped my building process for me. So far nothing has beat the Schumacher Mi8 build I did when it came to steps correlating to bags, though.

[@Pablo668]

I am with you on the Kyosho builds. They do go together brilliantly, parts ID is tricky. Tamiya manuals are great, but recently their placement of the hardware in the bags they’re supposed to be in has dropped off. I recently built the BBX, I got quite irritated with it/the build. This could also because I am getting old and crotchety.

[@quietrc]

If we didn't have anything to complain about, what kind of a hobby would it be!?

[@lrmbvv]

that looks great the red and white

[@quietrc]

Thank you!

[@davidr7813]

Yeah Kyosho has their own way of doing things, I have only built 1 or 2 Kyosho's in my 35 years of the hobby (and about 50 Tamiya's and other race brands) and while different and taking a little more time I thoroughly enjoyed the building process.

[@quietrc]

That was my second Kyosho kit I've built. I've since built another one (video coming soon!), and have another in the pipeline. Great quality, and really its just a nitpick like you could do for every brand.

[@Paul__FC]

Subbed, and i hear you loud and clear.

[@quietrc]

thanks for the sub!

[@peetor7]

Don’t you just love those D bags. It will all be worth while once you take it for a spin. Great paint job Dr Krane. It’s a sub from me. 👏🏼

[@quietrc]

Thanks for checking it out! And thanks for the sub. I'll try to keep up the quality!

[@nomusicrc]

I'm wondering if the numbers on the parts trees correlate to that exact kit as opposed to being parts tree generic number 1 and you don't know what kit it goes to

[@rccarloverluxembourg718]

Kyosho parts finish apparently is so perfect, well I love Kyosho but I too remember 1996 and 1997, where I had a lot of pain with my Inferno MP-5 and USA-1 Nitro Crusher --> I needed to cut away 3-4 x some material before fitting.

[@quietrc]

The finish and fit is great. I agree with you there

[@rccarloverluxembourg718]

@@quietrc I never said that :-) My experience was different as I built up around 30 RC Cars from the kit ... but I must agree I never built a Kyosho 1:10 touring car, only 1:8 nitro cars where the building really sucked because of fitting problems.

[@krisbohn4118]

Great video !!! I was wondering if there is a precut aftermarket stand for the ESC like the one you made.

[@quietrc]

I'm pretty sure I came across something. You'll have to do a little searching as I didn't save it when I saw it.

[@blameusa7082]

0:59 how did you make that leaf stand on its end like that?? ITS MAGIC!!

[@quietrc]

I wish everyone watched my videos as closely as you do!

[@ivormcmanus3468]

How about you build a Schumacher cat /procat re. re then you can say that is a difficult build..

[@quietrc]

I've had the Pro Cat recommended to me, and I am thinking of giving it a whirl a little down the line... Have a substantial backlog of kits right now!

[@theREALKyleTalente]

You’re not off here. My Optima Mid was missing two diff shims. Had to contact Kyosho and wait 7 days to get the replacement parts. Had the same ESC issue as well. Ordered the Koswork ESC plate online and waited another 7 days. The build was harder than a Tamiya, but I enjoy the challenge of the build.

[@quietrc]

Just looked up that ESC plate. That is really nice. I'm going to add a link to that in the description. Thank you! I enjoyed the build as well. Just minor stuff, really.

[@jonm2884]

Love mine, really drives great. FYI a hobbywing BL10 120 sandwitches perfectly on it's side between top and bottom plates, doesn't even need servo tape to hold it.@@quietrc

[@diamond66ist]

It must be said Tamiya make the majority of their builds pretty much foolproof but other brands such as Koyosho seem to excel with the parts quality , there are very few Tamiya kits that come with decent oil filled shocks or bearings ( unless they take away the stock motor) but that said Kyosho kits are more costly to buy , i guess its personal preference at the end of the day/

[@quietrc]

100% agree... that's the trade off. I'm like a lot of other people; Tamiya just has a hold on me. I love so much of their quirky stuff.

[@rcinhand9671]

Kyosho directions are good, just not the best. I built a Kyosho in to late 80s, and it was fine for the time. I could see why some people were put off to assembling, but I still prefer it over RTR. Subbed!

[@quietrc]

Always prefer building vs. RTR, for sure. Thanks for the sub!

[@Christian-cj4id]

How did you get a pink wild one?

[@quietrc]

Had to go custom with it! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKm2gKlnmq9jb8Usi=D98KNvbXTku_Razd

[@ioskaioska5166]

I subscribed because you had 666 subscribers and you are not pro Satan! :) P.S.: I also love Rc

[@quietrc]

Thanks for looking out for me!

[@ioskaioska5166]

I just subscribe so you don't have 666 subscribers...we all know what tha means...I love Rc too :)

[@quietrc]

Now we gotta get to 777 subscribers!

[@tomerikgundersen8574]

Sorry, I gave up after 5 mins, or so. You make up problems that are not there.

[@quietrc]

Watching for 5 minutes and ESPECIALLY commenting helps the channel a lot! So I appreciate it! Come back any time and see all the problems I can make up!

[@ruttspeed]

Yeah. Gave up on this. Grown man moans he can't find screws. Built an original cougar aged 12. Procat a bit later.

[@quietrc]

Such a bummer it took until you were 12 to get into the hobby. Thanks for checking out the channel, and every comment helps. Thanks!

[@ruttspeed]

Nah had nikko at around 10 This would be mid 80s then tamiya midnight pumpkin. Radio race magazines until I could afford a proper race kit. Just find it crazy people moan about these kits. I've even seen people give up on lego because they got bags that weren't numbered

[@rccarloverluxembourg718]

Yeah I wanted a Wild Willy with 12, 13 and again with 14, my father forbid me to buy one, so I got a Nikko again. Not my fault. These were his words "If you have problems and fail to build it, I won't help you with the kit"