[EP06] Arrow v Arrow turn fight basics!!!

[@Solar546]

Your skills are formidable, thank you for the video!

[@Avenger__One]

Thanks brother

[@skjotr9827]

Gaurantee this is what kills me the most.

[@borkug1566]

Thank you! That's exactly the answer to my question from one of your previous videos.

[@Avenger__One]

thank you for your support brother!

[@peterwarnett]

Ive noticed that you emphasise a lot in your videos about the distance. So tonight was really trying to do it and f*** me its hard to maintain. The fact you can do this looking so easily is incredible.

[@Avenger__One]

thanks brother! its all about control

[@yous2244]

What types of guns do you have on your ship? Did you take out the gimbles

[@gregisaacson660]

Great video man!!!

[@NINTHSKULL]

Is the opponent flying with sticks as well? I was previously rocked by the discovery that turn rates with the mouse and keyboard can be 30% slower (fixed in 3.15) because the vjoy limited diagonal turn rate additive effect. Since then I haven't trusted wins since it is possible they are just completely unable to compete with sticks.

[@Avenger__One]

That's now fixed and I don't know what he's flying with

[@AKARazorback]

Hands down best flight instructionals on the tube... Keep this up and your channel will be HUGE. Maybe wanna record, edit and upload the videos, but don't make them visible right away so you can bank some videos and time their release throughout the week. That way when you hit a period with maybe a little less action, your content keeps getting pushed out regardless. Good for the algorithm as well!

[@sphere3704]

it will be cool if I see you against Azure-Lance, you both are pretty good it will be interesting.

[@Avenger__One]

I've fought him in AC I would love too fight him more

[@warpen2010]

Excellent!

[@zacharypump5910]

Awesome video, thanks for sharing! Just curious do you ever use decoupled mode in these situations ? On heavier / slower ships perhaps? If so would love a demo of that :)

[@Avenger__One]

Your going too like Thursdays video;)

[@zacharypump5910]

@@Avenger__One sweet

[@pedraaaa]

Thank you for the videos!

[@Avenger__One]

thank you for your support!

[@pedraaaa]

@@Avenger__One its lilstone here man! Enjoying your videos very much!

[@Avenger__One]

@@pedraaaa thanks brother

[@Rex7567.]

Great video thank you 🙏🏼

[@Avenger__One]

Thank you!

[@amigo3284]

Are you HoTAS or dual stick control?

[@sttosin]

Satisfying

[@spacecowboy4804]

Get the reps in baby

[@naoh8026]

Ok so I think you are the pilot who shoot Arrow’s commercial

[@LawnD4rt]

This is all coupled flight though right?

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

this is great and all, but positional desync is making this impossible 99/100 times.

[@Avenger__One]

Simply not true, it's making it harder yes, but that is an excuse what you just said there, do not let this get in your way of training what you can now

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

@@Avenger__One hop onto my channel and you'll see what I'm talking about, because I'm not talking about rubberbanding. Btw just got the sticks, so I'm re-learning how to fly still, but still. Almost every fight ends up like that. I try to get outside of his cone of fire, when I see that I'm still getting hit, I try to extend to get behind him, and he pops me whilst looking the other way. I'm not saying that your video is bad, or thay you're giving people bad info, I'm saying that the game is in a broken state rn, and the only times I could of fought like this was when the server was empty and when the other guy actually wants to fight. Btw question: why do you fight in coupled mode? Just so you stop when you let the stick go, or is there something else to there to it?

[@Avenger__One]

@@GrumpyEyeGaming you're right on the money on all your points, but regardless of desync its still good to practice, AC is less laggy then PU so you get less positional desync snd I fly coupled because it's easier too make tighter turns because your always getting assistance counter steering as you go. Less micro managing.

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

@@Avenger__One that's what I thought. I switch to coupled every time I need to pull tight turns while trying to not overshoot the target. Thanks for the info mate o7

[@peterwarnett]

Do you think anyone good with the lag pip over a good player with lead pip has the advantage?

[@teahousereloaded]

I don’t think so. They are equal. Avenger prefers lag, because it forces him to look at the enemy ship. That way he might see evasive rolling earlier and he sees where the shots hit. I personally think that lead pip gives me a clearer indication of the enemy’s vector and is easier to learn.

[@Avenger__One]

yes

[@teahousereloaded]

Duel of the fates!!!!

[@galacticraz1434]

I'll be interested in seeing how you go when these people aren't chasing your shadow and actually look at you. The 'rate' fight is easy when they looking at your trailing avatar 500m behind where you actually are, he who manipulates the desync the most wins.

[@Avenger__One]

Well that's a particularly poor way too look at things, from my POV you can blame desync or you can work with what you have, less desync I feel will only make me better and I'm exited for it

[@galacticraz1434]

@@Avenger__One not when your opponent can't react to your actions because they feel they are in a controlling position on you but are magically getting hit. To many time have I had the ass of a vanguard just to die because I'm in actual fact on his nose presenting a target. The best tactic right now is to spam evasive maneuvers and take the shots you can get. This is why I fly an alpha strike glad rn. Make a vid about how to manage the desync because without knowing that the principals your teaching will just punish anyone trying to implement them.

[@Smap_SC]

@@galacticraz1434 How is one supposed to manage desync? Either you have desync or you don't. Its an issue with the server. If you have desync your opponent will probably have it too. Either you land your shots or you don't. There is no way to anticipate incoming desync and predict where the enemy will fly to.

[@galacticraz1434]

@@Smap_SC the desync is always present as long as you are moving, it acts like extreme lag. You can use it to your advantage by evading preemptively then taking advantage at closer ranges as they think they have passed you. You can manipulate their nose by orbiting/strafing in the direction of travel making sure you opponent is looking behind where you are so you can get those sweet pancake shots. Do some tests with friends by drifting at a speed and slowing down, you'll see the lag and the direction changes in your friend when he is making none then as you come to a stop you get closer to actual position until you stop and his ship will re align to be in sync. It's super weird but you can use it.

[@Avenger__One]

@@galacticraz1434 you are correct about positional desync but your missing the point, also I only show people what works, but trying to say none of this is worth teaching is just plain wrong.