Ep10: OLD LONDON BUS Restoration MORE Engine PROBLEMS!

[@lzappa9109]

My utmost thanks for everyone's effort really appreciated, from Australia. [Grazie mille, eccellente!] 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@mikeandrews5779]

Greetings from NZ. Awesome vid, really enjoyed the Brit SOH.

[@johntovey3928]

Love those out-takes

[@jamesallen712]

Thanks for the whitworth comment. It makes sense now why my father had so many whitworth spanners and sockets in his tool kit.

[@johnjoe2969]

U lot r fantastic just love watching Ur video keep it up thanks john

[@rjt65]

Another great video and rubbery job as always :-)

[@Thereishope664]

I remember the buses in London with the registration CLT, always reminded me of a naughty word. Great content lads.

[@macgybel7951]

Even three days an engine would be quite an achievement… fantastic video as always! Keep up the good work, lads!

[@jamesbalchin4640]

Brilliant video love the crack your guys have with each other as well Rubber pistons brilliant

[@chrislaf2011]

It's interesting to see how engine design has moved on since about 80 years ago when this originated. The size looks enormous, and the power output of around 100BHP must give a quite low power to weight ratio for this engine (compared to modern designs). Having said all that, the sound of the RT's AEC engine can't be beaten! Well done guys for keeping another piece of history in working order.

[@Ampex196]

It was another era. Old school diesels could take a lot of abuse before throwing their toys out of the pram. They'll run quite happily forever on used mazola cooking oil. Modern, turbo boosted, common rail engines are great when they work but a nightmare when they decide not to.

[@highpath4776]

Deliberate use of AEC truck engines limited to revs for passenger use.

[@johnavery15]

Love the outtakes and bloopers. My favourite part of each episode!

[@andicog]

Another great one, you may laugh at rubber pistons but I knew a bloke who bought a Kawasaki triple 2 stroke back in the 80's, it had a misfire, 'probably a plug or lead' said the seller...... Lifting the head some weeks later revealed a green tennis ball, cut down and fitted over the conrod on the centre cylinder..... 👍

[@Ampex196]

Nice one. I did hear of a Hillman Minx (bought cheaply at auction) that turned out to have a wooden piston in one cylinder.

[@bewildered5444]

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[@davidclark3603]

A true video on how to preserve our heritage! Excellent job guys!

[@Big.Al.3]

Yet again a very enjoyable film. Well done gents. Looking forward to the next one.

[@chrisskelhorn5727]

Rubber pistons, and non-flammable fuel was how LT got around the exhaust emissions tests in the 1950's! :-)

[@jonniejam-shovel6405]

During RT engine changes in bus garages, we would not be expected to completely strip down the engine unit. LT Chiswick works, would send down a fully rebuilt and reworked unit for staff to fit. Our day foreman would check the dates on the vehicles log card, to see when individual units had been fitted to the engine. We would fit as many new or reconditioned parts as we could. Including fuel pump, injectors and pipes. Complete fluid flywheel unit. (Two halves, driven and driving members.) With a new roller race fitted. (This unit would be pressure tested when attached to the crankshaft. Coolant hoses, throttle clevis pins, and the correct fuel pump bed. (There was two different types I believe) After all it was plain sailing, and two men were allocated one days work for the complete job, and no come backs. Cheers.👍 lads.

[@rolanddunk5054]

Hi,that sure was a lot of debris in the waterways.I served my time as an apprentice with Whitworth Bsf spanner’s,then AF and metric came onto the scene….my tool bag became much heavier.good video I love a good strip down cheers Roly 🇬🇧

[@markburniston3018]

Rubber pistons! Love it 🤣 Great video Chaps.

[@TheDaf95xf]

Can’t beat a bit of good fun fixing bus engines with some great information added in 😆 How did the wedding go with the bashed up bus…….🤔

[@andrewsnoozy]

Just love the passion you Guys have. Of course its a nightmare, that's why do it, isn't it. Rebuilding a diesel, takes days to get your hands clean, you smell of diesel, for ever. Guys, I just love it. Always a great video.

[@michaelkeen5010]

More great content from you guys, really enjoy watching these videos.👍

[@brucebonkowski9568]

I love your show I was wondering do you plan on a full ground up restoration of a double decker

[@ook2763]

You are so convincing in what you keep doing, really great. But let me ask you a question: what do you really like most? Driving a bus or repairing it?

[@ffrancrogowski2192]

You've got a lot of strength and patience. That AEC engine with the old Whitworth sized nuts and bolts really must have been a headache to deal with. Anyhow, this, as all of the other videos previous, have been a joy to watch. Many thanks for this production.

[@martinworrall5888]

You surprised me I’m only 74 about the same age as you and I’ve still got all my old whitworth spanner’s and sockets 😃

[@play_d0ng]

Great👍👍

[@tonylawlor3503]

Brilliant need more please good job everyone

[@russnixon6020]

Whitworth spanners and sockets are available from Amazon...

[@frankboff8185]

The end made me laugh, good video lads.

[@oc2phish07]

Another high point of the week.

[@TheSleepychicken]

Hint. Whitworth sockets and spanners are still available. Having owned classic cars I have a good collection of Whitworth tools.

[@1chish]

Smug moment: I still have a set of Gedore Whitworth / BSF sockets from "many years ago" in my Snap On cabinet. Not a lot of call for them on Scania and MAN trucks but handy on British Classic Motorcycles. Except when it was a British Cycle thread 😡 Cracking video though lads. 👍

[@tonys1636]

And BSP fittings on pipework, like brake and fuel lines. That multi spanner that came with a new bycycle always found a permanent home in my tool box, they were BSP standard.

[@kenh3344]

I've still got all my bsf. And bsw. Whitworth and British standard fine spanner s and sockets. And a.f. and metric. So anything old I can tackle.

[@raymondpearce5245]

Brilliant video guys

[@petercooper1748]

Brilliant really enjoyed it thank you

[@peterwatts4163]

Regarding the Whitworth/metric/imperial problem, just buy some Whitworth spanners and sockets - easy:-)

[@timhines6543]

Ive got a few sets in my van now 🙂

[@brianbrown826]

Probably you've thought of this, how about getting a set of Whitworth spannes and sockets on line. Might make the job easier when re-assembling.

[@chrissmith7655]

Hi, really good stuff guys , many thanks.

[@jamesfrench7299]

Wow, first time I got to see an AEC getting torn down. Not for an OCD person! There was a range of tools made by Metrinch with sockets and spanners with a patented design so each socket could handle both a metric and imperial hex. As well as SAE, they are designed to grip British standard sizes as well. They may be worth getting a hold of.

[@highpath4776]

Got a small set of sockets, ideal for most uses until you find some idiot has replaced what should be imperial threads with metric ones.

[@paulmartin4971]

Great video thanks

[@petersmith4455]

looking forward to the engine strip, 9,6 litre AEC engine,

[@john1703]

Was that a Whitworth screwdriver you used to lever out the injectors? Thought not!

[@highpath4776]

Driving in the rain Intro I expect it to go all Chiswick Skid Pan

[@lupine1965]

There is at least 5 old double decker buses on the island of st.thomas usvi close to the airport.

[@albertgrover2735]

Should've asked me - I've got all spanners and sockets in Whitworth sizes . . . 😉

[@tonymaries1652]

Spanners don't last for ever. I just had a quick look and Whitworth spanners are still widely available, most likely with a CE certification!

[@117077]

The Roly Polys 🤷‍♂️🤣😂🤣😂👍

[@charlesemerson6763]

Rubber pistons. Now that's a good one.

[@rosshannemann7772]

40 year old halfords socket set has whitworth.

[@tridbant]

Whitworth is still used in pumps. Well at least not that long ago.

[@musicismytherapy4936]

I've got an official AEC RT workshop manual if you need it. 👍

[@timhines6543]

I have an original copy too luckily 🙂

[@peterwardle572]

OK mate I can lend you my Gedore socket set, bought about 1966, you are to young you people, sorry just a joke, I love your stuff.

[@stevendavies3563]

So are they rubber or not 🤯

[@garypollentine194]

I used to wash engines with parafin and a brush then jet wash

[@tonysheerness2427]

Would a modern engine be repairable in 70 years? With all the electronic and exhaust emission controls.

[@SirHackaL0t.]

How is that water/detergent/grease captured so it’s not going into the water course?

[@cbmsysmobile]

You don't have Whit sockets and spanners? Tut tut. 😀

[@LTVoyager]

A British company without Whitworth tools? The horror!

[@tonys1636]

I was thinking the same considering that Draper produce Whitworth socket sets, many British manufactures in the 60's used AF, Whit/BSF and Metric often in the same vehicle depending on the source of parts.

[@timhines6543]

Thankfully I have a good stock of my own whitworth spanners and sockets from working on steam engines and the like I have built up over that last few years. Now all coming in use here too.

[@davesibson3387]

🤣🤣rubber pistons!!! He probably pours his tea from a chocolate tea pot!!!!!!!

[@jacksugden8190]

Makes me wonder why the RT ever went out of production, loved them at Brentwood back in the day.

[@highpath4776]

Roughtly the cost per seat of an RM was cheaper (and most of the actual increased cost was fitting a heater to the RM - The RTs having none). The plan was also to use less RMs to replace RTs but unions objected (also economic studies show reducing frequencies reduces the likelyhood of would be passengers waiting for a bus and they take another means of transport. Fewer bigger buses were unwisely used on the Brentwood and South Essex Green Line routes ( so hard fought for by General from Hillman of Romford pre WW2 ). which with upgrades to the Central Line and Fenchurch electrics meant even fewer passengers into Aldgate and Victoria. For some reason Eastern National's (ex City) Use of Lodekkas still kept their 251/351 services running well until the days of the Bristol VRs.

[@richardhunt1384]

So is Tim a Bus Mechanic/ Engineer or has years of working on these types of buses (be it RM/ RT etc) just given him years of experience? Is your background Dave in bus engineering or is it just through experience as well that you know how these buses come apart?? Great funny video as ever!!! 🤣🤣👍👍

[@timhines6543]

I work on the railway full time as a maintenance engineer this is just my hobby. I have over 10 years experience in heavy engineering and on engines through railways and considerable experience on quite a range of buses.

[@stefanobio7045]

@@timhines6543 Hi Tim...are you a maintenance engineer on the trains, what heavy engineering have you worked on, did you serve your apprenticeship on the railway, im interested in engineering and enjoy watching the videos, thank you.

[@highpath4776]

@@timhines6543 BR , lets turn the AEC engine on its side, I'.m sure there will be no problems, and we can run three of them at the same time too !

[@petersmith4455]

hi, great video, how was engine allowed to get like this ? or did it come straight from LT, cant wait to see a gleaming engine with new oil in it, the 11,3 litre a223 looked the same except larger and went in the Militant mk1, remember doing them at AEC.

[@timhines6543]

This engine has sat about for numorous years but came out of a fire engine so the treatment would have been different. LT never used antifreeze which has corrosion inhibitor which would prevent some of the silt and corrosion in the block. It looks worse than it is. Another RT I did recently was far worse than this so I bet most are the same.

[@andyrichardsvideovlogs8835]

Rubber pistons 🤦🏻‍♂️All time classic that one.

[@gowdsake7103]

Ummm buy a set of Whitworth sockets sheesh

[@malcolm6951]

My first tool box (1970's vintage) had & still has mm, inch and Whitworth sockets, ring and C spanners. Can still get Whitworth spanners on Halfords and Amazon plus loads of other places. Should get the proper tools before something goes wrong. Slipping spanner = mashed knuckles not nice!!

[@enpeemac]

Was trying to figure out a way to drop the old 'piston broke' gag into the comments but gave up😂! (For the uninitiated, piston broke/pissed n broke derives from a traditional, read tired and sad, old joke beloved of British heritage transport enthusiasts 😉)

[@briangentle5515]

Thanks for another interesting video, though as a non expert, I don't really understand a lot of the technical stuff. Those 2 very rusty covers you took off looked worrying to me. All that rusty gunge behind must mean that something (important?) has rusted away behind. Hopefully it can be replaced...

[@warweezil2802]

I'm thinking rust scale from the cylinder block. Have seen it often in high mileage cast iron blocks

[@andrewdrabble8939]

Nooo. The episode is over too soon

[@colmornane5684]

Are you serious? You are in England and you cannot get a set of Whitworth or British standard sockets? We are restoring an AEC Regal Mark III bus, 1953 vintage, here in Australia, we purchased a set of spanners and sockets off Ebay. Try and get a set it will make your life so much easier. Regards a fan from Aus..

[@michelsmet2611]

RT's are fantastic buses, my favourites among all Britsh buses ; what type of engine is this ? Leyland O.680 ? Good luck !

[@DavidSelley49]

Post war RTs were AEC A204 engines, 9.6 litre 125 bhp derated to 115 for LT. Leyland engines were fitted to RTL and RTW buses.

[@michelsmet2611]

@@DavidSelley49 Thank you ! By the way : could it still be possible to find a Leyland O.400 engine - in good condition ? This is necessary to complete the restoration of an ex.-vicinal Van Hool A.72 bus.

[@sauce3memes832]

This can’t be real, there’s no rubber gloves on the floor because they break when they touch anything 😂

[@Dirkjan78]

Just wondering. If you skim the heads. You have to check the valve clearens as well. So why do want the piston roads to go back in there original place...?? You said it yourself there are no stupid questions. 😉

[@timhines6543]

If something has been wearing together I allways belive its best to keep it together so the same push rod will go back with the same cam follower and rocker arm. The clearances will be set as the heads have been fully skimmed and rebuilt

[@Dirkjan78]

@@timhines6543 thanks for the answer. 👍🏼

[@peterlangridge4639]

You can bet LT weren't at all as disciplined keeping parts together. They stripped on mass and just chucked all the parts from various engines together then reassembled from the first ones cleaned and inspected. The waterways are bad because they didn't use anti corrosive coolant, just plain water.

[@highpath4776]

Ensure the head if honed down has the valve throw compensated otherwise the valves could hit the pistons

[@pipsav4354]

Stop taking the piss-tons he he

[@crewealex1125]

3 engines a day but there was probably 400 guys in the shed!

[@eyerollthereforeiam1709]

There is a human talking about bus engines during a dog video...

[@leoncolyer9420]

the dumbest question there is . is the one that was never asked !!

[@richardhughes3691]

No sound guys

[@LTVoyager]

Sound is fine for me.

[@tonys1636]

I do think those wet liners should be changed, they look very corroded, might as well do it now than a few thousand miles down the road when one or two blow through. That lump had been left standing for years by the look of it.

[@timhines6543]

The RT engine is a dry liner engine. That is just the block casting you can see there. The liners are going to be replaced anyway as you will see in the next episode.

[@tonys1636]

@@timhines6543 I assumed, wrongly, that they would be wet like the horizontal engines.

[@davefrench3608]

Hmm, those liners look very corroded. Ok they aren’t worn but if you are going to do a proper job I’d change them. Shows what you get running a wet liner engine with plain water.

[@timhines6543]

That the barrels you can see there. The A204 A206 etc RT engine is dry liner.

[@davefrench3608]

@@timhines6543 ah, I thought it was a wet one. Hope you don’t find too much wrong inside.

[@cannadineboxill-harris2983]

Much as I am not comfortable asking the depot why they stopped running the London Suburban Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW’s on routes N26, 30, 121, 230, 271, 349, N279 And 158 why can’t we make the same make of the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Buses but Modernise the insides of these Buses. Also, make it low floor up and down and extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more so there will be more space for the wheelchair users. By the way, if you could remake and Modernise these vehicles could they also make them into a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Version’s that if it will be possible and to Modernise the insides of these Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW’s make it low floor up and down and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more so there will be more space and even a London Suburban Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more. Why couldn’t we have those London Suburban Buse's Pale red on the top roof Pale red again on the top and middle Milk Chocolate brown on the middle Creamy white on the Bottom Middle and Milk Chocolate Brown on the Bottom on most of that kind of those Particular Double Decker Vehicles? Could you put the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox in the Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC and also put the Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox in the Volvo TD102KF Engine East Lancs Olympus and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more and also turn most of them to a London Suburban Buses. By the way, could you also make the routes N26, 349, 121, N279 and 271 into London Suburban Buses and have a mixture of a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC and Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Versions. Could they also transfer the Arriva Bus Depots from Hackney to Stagecoach company so they can replace all the Arriva buses and all of them can go to Birmingham and Leeds? They can be replaced by Stagecoach Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox Volvo TD102KF Engine East Lancs Olympus and also Extend the Middle body part of these Vehicles and that includes A Mixture of a Stagecoach Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox Volvo TD102KF, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 6LXCT Engine Northern Counties Palatine One and that Includes a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles A Little Bit More. Can Arriva London Bus Company’s Replace Most of their Wight Buses so they can also transfer them to Birmingham and Also Manchester so they can be replaced by Loud 3-Speed ZF Ecomat Gearboxes Volvo D10A Engine East Lancs Olympus and also Extend the Middle body part of these Vehicles A Little Bit More Thank You Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Much. Oh buy the way could the bus Factory Companies also Make More of Those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel engine Olympian ECW Vehicles And that also includes Those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC And also Extend the Middle Body part of those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Vehicles and the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and that also includes The Loud 3-Speed ZF Ecomat Gearboxes Volvo D10A Engine East Lancs Olympus A Little Bit More And Paint Those 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and also those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel engine Olympian ECW Vehicles and that also includes The Northern Counties Palatine One with a Volvo TD102KF, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 6LXCT Diesel engines with a Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearboxes and The Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and also The Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles to the Grey Green Colours Just Like The Other Original Scania Grey Green on the Bus Route 313, 167, and the 103, If all The Leyland Titan B15’s are Fully Red and even Mostly Red, could they also Repaint All of The Leyland Titan B15’s into Grey Green Colours Just Like The Other Original Scania Grey Green on the Bus Route 313 so they can Reuse them for Only Every Six and a Half Months and also Reuse them on those Rail Replacement London Bus Routes if that will Be Alright for Only Just Every 6 and a Half Months and also Reuse Those Buses Only on the London Bus Routes witch are The 341, N41, 34, 123, N29, 149, 221, N73, 121, 86, 30, 262, 147, 396, 41 and N26 so Please make sure that the builders can do as they are told!!!! And please do something about these Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Important Professional Ideas Please Please Prime Minister and also Includes the Mayor of London.😉😉😅😅😅😅😀😃😀😅😀😃😅😀😃😀😀😃👏👏👏👏👍👏👏👏👏👍👏👏

[@bewildered5444]

Ease off the cocaine buddy.

[@cannadineboxill-harris2983]

Hi Guy's my name is Mr C. T. Boxill-Harris I was wondering, why coudn't you find a nice fresh shiny Leyland Titan B15's and Repaint them to a Grey Green Color's just like the original Scania Grey Green's which were in the East London bus route's such as 125, 313, 173, 167, and also the bus route 103, if you guy would like to find about 14 Leyland Titan B15's, please could you Repaint them in the Exact Grey Green Bus Color's for us because it would be a Very Very Very Very Interesting Buses to see them Repainted to a Grey Green Color's and I'am a Big Fan of all of the Leyland Titan B15's 😉😉😅😅😅😅😀😃😀😀😃😀😃😀😀😃😀😃😀😀😃😀😅😀😃😀😀😃😀😃😅😀😃😅😀😃