Ep118: The LeBaron Cult Murdered My Grandfather

[@grandmaroxie2210]

Trauma is so long suffered. Thank you for opening up about the intergenerational pain that it causes

[@Dewey32]

Such a compelling story. Thank you for the show!

[@kerryholyoak5720]

When I was at BYU back around 1984, our student ward had a bro. LeBaron as a counselor in the bishopric who had an RM son. He told me that he had to go through a lot of interviews by the church to serve in our bishopric because of what his family had done. He seemed like a good guy.

[@spookymicah3131]

E Dale LeBaron?

[@DeathValleyDazed]

Wow, great history lesson deepening my knowledge and empathy towards individuals within the culture of Mormon polygamy.

[@lizphillipps305]

Thank you for taking the time to listen!

[@grandmaroxie2210]

Thank you for sharing your story. The doc was heartbreaking.

[@gammgammx3174]

Great interview

[@lizphillipps305]

Thank you!

[@thatcat8442]

I have not seen the documentary. I just wanted to express my sympathy and admiration for Liz and her family.

[@berthanadrossos9802]

My grandfather, George Andrus, would take apples 🍎 to Rulon’s home. He also would dress as Santa and visit Rulon ‘s house on Christmas Eve. My dad, David, was the driver and was told to wait in the car.

[@donnellallan]

What a great conversation! Thank you three for being such good-hearted people. You give me hope! 💜

[@mormonishpodcast1036]

So glad!

[@hlnbee]

My grandmother (born in 1889) had nothing good to say about polygamy - her grandfather had 5 wives and 51 children! Mainstream Mormonism! I’m directly related to the ugliest wife! The old photos were not becoming.

[@lizphillipps305]

❤

[@hlnbee]

I’m 81!

[@hlnbee]

I enjoyed your presentation and have watched the documentary!

[@Tina06019]

3:39 The higher the hair, the closer to Jesus, lol.

[@IvoneteMascara-nx6wz]

Sorry I did not enjoy this one. There are human aspects in everything everywhere but Landon nailed it - he percieved the “glorifying” of poligamy although she denied it. Poligamy can NEVER be acceptable - to me. The damaged dynamics thereof are just not acceptable!!! No matter the amount of love involved it is just too screwed up and psychologically devastating for all involved.

[@mormonishpodcast1036]

We understand there are a range of beliefs on this topic so we respect your deep held beliefs on the subject. Thanks for commenting.

[@lizphillipps305]

@@mormonishpodcast1036 ❤

[@rodneyhuckaby8716]

This was a weird episode. I don’t know what to think about it because I don’t understand it at all. Several strange things were talked about.

[@mormonishpodcast1036]

You need to watch Daughters of the Cult on Hulu. Basically Liz’s grandfather who was leader of a polygamous group in Utah was murdered by the leader of a polygamous group in Mexico. The whole story is fascinating.

[@robinnetto6794]

My friend Dorothy Allred Solomon wrote a book called “ in my Fathers house” she told of how her mother felt and how the women felt about themselves. The night mare of not being the 1 st wife. Dorothy left and married monogamously

[@lizphillipps305]

That is great! Thanks for sharing this!

[@lisacollins5184]

This left me conflicted and if I'm being completely honest, a little angry... The guest kept speaking of the trauma her family experienced by losing Allred and seemed dismissive of the trauma daughters who escaped LeBaron experienced...