EP3 Creative Recording with Tape Op - Mixing Analog vs. In the Box vs. Hybrid Approach

[@marcdanielnelson317]

Keep these coming Larry. The community wants more!

[@xxsouthxxsidexxroyxx]

"We were getting cleaner mixes in the box." But people didn't like those clean mixes. That's why they developed three million different saturation plugins and clippers.

[@MrJbreez85]

@2:16 Saber? I have one and it is a noise machine. Fun to look at and I use it from time to time. But mostly just as a tabletop for picks, cables, and empty coffee mugs.

[@DB-kh3li]

I sure would appreciate a longer format on these.

[@Chaos-Dynamics]

Digital controlled analog gear like Wes Audio has or like McDSP is the future imo. I mix on an analog console and love it, I would love a completely automated console like the Neve Genesis. Of course you can work completely in the box but analog knobs are faster than a mouse 🐭 I like the intuitive fast approach of an analog device, make it digital controllable 😊

[@nicefish10]

In the box might be convenient, but it’s not nearly as much fun. I own a big hybrid set up with 56 channels of Neve… Way more fun to pull it up on the eve and use the external hardware but I do most of the editing obviously inside of the DAW

[@380stroker]

Lets be real here. These guys are not discussing sound quality. They are discussing convenience and of course digital will always win. There is something to be said about recording a master tape to digital where modulation has only occurred once. This is your big sound and depth. This digital remastering of songs crap where digital files get re-modulated makes everything flat and dull, not to mention the brickwall limiting. The magic truly is in that single modulation of signal from analog tape to digital or live performance to digital. I could go on with my theories of linearity, clocking, data extraction, signal modulation, dither, jitter, ailiasing and how all this negatively affects digital sound quality but that's for another day.

[@TheRealNewBlackMusic]

Glad to see tape up still going strong after so many years as far as what he says about in the box mixing I could not disagree more. ITB sounds like crap and engineers and producers turning to it is one of the things that killed rock music. The reality is musDrank the cyanide laced Kool Aid of digidesign and other Music software companies. If switching to digital because of revisions is a concern then just get yourself a digital mixer.

[@coolint]

MIXING IN THE BOX REALLY MEANS, YOUR JUST USING YOUR COMPUTER, A DAW, PLUGINS AND THEN YOUR RECORDING TO THE CD RECORDER ON THE COMPUTER THAT YOUR USING. BUT IF YOU USE A INTERFACE, OUTBOARD GEAR, A CONSOLE OR ANY PHYSICAL INSTRUMENT'S, THEN YOUR NOT MIXING IN THE BOX, BECAUSE YOUR USING ANALOG EQUIPMENT TO PRODUCE A QUALITY SOUND, THAT YOU CAN'T GET FROM A COMPUTER AND PLUGINS. SO EVERYONE HAS TO STOP LYING TO THEMSELVES, ABOUT MIXING IN THE BOX, BECAUSE YOUR NOT DOING THAT, AND YOU WILL NEVER DO THAT, WITHOUT USING HIGH QUALITY ANALOG EQUIPMENT. AND ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT CHILDREN ARE LISTENING TO YOU GUYS, TO LEARN WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S WRONG. SO ALWAYS TELL THEM THE TRUTH. AND NOBODY WANTS TO BE KNOWN AS A LIAR.

[@jamesrobinson3rdCoast]

Well yelled!! lol

[@G.GordonMidi]

You can’t be serious right?

[@ShiningTrapezoid]

what the fuck are you even blathering about you absolute moron

[@anonymex22]

Another proof of full sound degradation by studios for time/money gain! Digital->analog->digital.... All the time it is yes cost less, more convenient, the big joke is when they are saying it sounds the same, totally ridiculous affirmation! Cleaner or more clear; not better!!! Hope they don't make analog support lacquer or master copy like this!!! It just me or all people are used to digital aliasing and don't ear it!